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Ace, I agree with your post if you add
People that need to die today
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On May 21 2009 12:23 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2009 12:21 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Ace, ver will die flip blue, and then town realizes the retard in office is hey, YOU.
Then we look at your supporters through this retardedness and have an idea who to lynch tommorrow. how much $$ you wanna put on this?
Ver is not blue. Why the hell do you think a veteran would go first in mayorals runners, win the fucking election and all the reasons i labeled before. In fact if he is veteran he is a dumbass. Put yourself in Vers "veteran" position you will see the truth. As I said I dont have a fucking real clue against Ace but VER IS NOT TOWNIE SIDE
a Roleclaim MAYOR veteran LOL!
b Lynched infinity a random player that gave us 0 info about the mayorals or inactives
c Lucaswoj incident (I think mafia just messed up with milkymoo)
d Random activity posting
e Not lynching Nemy.
f PMs
All this are not little mistakes: they are plain stupid plays, VER IS SMART ENOUGH NOT TO DO THIS IF TOWN SIDED.
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On May 21 2009 12:26 Caller wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2009 12:25 MTF wrote:On May 21 2009 12:21 Caller wrote:On May 21 2009 12:19 MTF wrote:On May 21 2009 12:15 Caller wrote:On May 21 2009 12:13 MTF wrote:
And with Caller's switch we have Ver & Ace tied at 11 each.
Wonder why Caller voted for me in the first place, after all. eh you were fishy along with some other people. I figured that this incredibly poor excuse for a lynching was getting pretty stupid and just randomly picked somebody I thought was fishy ^^ Why switch at all, then? What changed between then and now, ignoring the obvious changes of the time before the vote ends and the arrival of several previously quiet Ver supporters? I'd rather not disclose the reason at this time. That's a laughable argument to use. Really. It's even moreso in that the only information that you could be wanting to innocently hide, namely that you were a DT and rolechecked either Ace or Ver, is impossible at this point in the game. Check PM, I think I can trust you with that much.
Wasn't a good excuse at all.
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On May 21 2009 12:32 Malongo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2009 12:23 Ace wrote:On May 21 2009 12:21 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Ace, ver will die flip blue, and then town realizes the retard in office is hey, YOU.
Then we look at your supporters through this retardedness and have an idea who to lynch tommorrow. how much $$ you wanna put on this? Ver is not blue. Why the hell do you think a veteran would go first in mayorals runners, win the fucking election and all the reasons i labeled before. In fact if he is veteran he is a dumbass. Put yourself in Vers "veteran" position you will see the truth. As I said I dont have a fucking real clue against Ace but VER IS NOT TOWNIE SIDE a Roleclaim MAYOR veteran LOL! b Lynched infinity a random player that gave us 0 info about the mayorals or inactives c Lucaswoj incident (I think mafia just messed up with milkymoo) d Random activity posting e Not lynching Nemy. f PMs All this are not little mistakes: they are plain stupid plays, VER IS SMART ENOUGH NOT TO DO THIS IF TOWN SIDED.
this has got to be one of the stupidest posts I've ever seen.
Even if he isn't, Ver has a good incentive to RC veteran. It'll discourage mafia from hitting him at night if he's town, or it may discourage people from lynching regardless of his affiliation.
This is coming from someone who's been relatively hidden all game and has been very shifty-quiet...
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On May 21 2009 12:31 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2009 12:27 L wrote:On May 21 2009 12:04 Ace wrote:On May 21 2009 12:02 L wrote:On May 21 2009 11:56 Ace wrote:On May 21 2009 11:49 dreamflower wrote:
All right. I wasn't sure I wanted to post this, but I'd like to mention my own reason for believing Ver is innocent. Why do I think this way? Because I'm still alive.
Normally, these two things wouldn't be connected in the least. However, well before Day Two occurred, Ver contacted me through PM to say he believed I had a blue role. Specifically, he said he thought I was probably medic/DT. This alone made me think that he wasn't Mafia, because he wouldn't have bothered to PM me at all if he were; he would have just killed me. Why leave a potential victim the possibility of getting protection? Being tired and surprised, I worded my response rather regrettably in a way that probably wouldn't convince him otherwise. When Day Two dawned, I knew that if he were Mafia, I would be dead.
The fact that I didn't die, even though he had figured me out as a blue, persuaded me that Ver is innocent. Why leave a blue role alone, especially if you suspect them to be a medic or detective? Both are potentially far more valuable and devastating for the town to lose than two bodyguards, because of their inherent abilities. I'd have made a far better target than poor LucasWoJ or mikeymoo. Instead, I didn't die, even though he had figured me out as blue.
Thus, logically, he can't be Mafia. Which means he's innocent and has the town's best interests in mind, more so than the likes of Ace and L bickering and quarrelling with each other.
Here are the PMs we exchanged, if anyone wants concrete proof about the conversation.
To: Ver
Subject: Re: your mafia role
Date: 5/18/09 12:25
Ironically, I just wrote to you not thirty seconds ago. And no, no one has contacted me. The confusion over nemY has pretty much occupied everyone's minds, and I don't think I would have come to anyone's attention anyway.
What makes you think I'm a medic or DT? Or even a blue role?
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Original Message:
I think you're a medic or DT.
What do you think of the current situation? Has anyone else contacted you that's playing?
Let me get this straight (holding in laughter) Ver sends you a PM, fishing for info. He claims medic or DT (even though you have no clue about what other blues he could have known) and you think because he kept you alive - he must be innocent? ... ... So...you come with this "evidence" near the lynch deadline. Showing up with Ver and his magical pixie buddies. However - there IS one thing you just did - you just fucked Ver over. Lets read between the lines. Ver asks you if your a medic or a DT right? He didn't ask about Bodyguard?! Which would kinda mean he'd know who the Bodyguards were. And you said this occured well before Day 2 which means it happened BEFORE the bodyguards died. Good going smart guy - you just proved that Ver indeed had to know who the Bodyguards were.
BOOM! Lol, what. there's no proof of that at all. Ver could have been uninterested in finding bodyguards or already Pm'd by mikey and didn't want to hit both. More than that, look at the content of the fucking post: how would he analyse dreamflower's role if bodyguard is given after the election. LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL That said, i disagree with other portions of dreamflower's post and dont' doubt there's a mafia there. That's why chopping block + day 3 already has her guillotine ready A better question is how could he possibly analyze dreamflower's posts when she barely posted anything at that point. ^_^ But yea she just jumped on the train post so I guess she's gone Day 3. Lack of posts and the profile thread indicates a town disposition that doesn't want to be discovered. A long term blue role: Dt or medic. I don't really give a shit about Ver's suspicions because he's going to die and we can talk about them more later, but its pretty open and shut how he'd figure shit like that out. That's how he sniped the majority of blues last game. come on, people can't literally be thinking "shit I'm a Dt better act shifty" - actually nevermind. I just remembered how last game went.
Took a while.
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On May 21 2009 12:33 Caller wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2009 12:32 Malongo wrote:On May 21 2009 12:23 Ace wrote:On May 21 2009 12:21 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Ace, ver will die flip blue, and then town realizes the retard in office is hey, YOU.
Then we look at your supporters through this retardedness and have an idea who to lynch tommorrow. how much $$ you wanna put on this? Ver is not blue. Why the hell do you think a veteran would go first in mayorals runners, win the fucking election and all the reasons i labeled before. In fact if he is veteran he is a dumbass. Put yourself in Vers "veteran" position you will see the truth. As I said I dont have a fucking real clue against Ace but VER IS NOT TOWNIE SIDE a Roleclaim MAYOR veteran LOL! b Lynched infinity a random player that gave us 0 info about the mayorals or inactives c Lucaswoj incident (I think mafia just messed up with milkymoo) d Random activity posting e Not lynching Nemy. f PMs All this are not little mistakes: they are plain stupid plays, VER IS SMART ENOUGH NOT TO DO THIS IF TOWN SIDED. this has got to be one of the stupidest posts I've ever seen. Even if he isn't, Ver has a good incentive to RC veteran. It'll discourage mafia from hitting him at night if he's town, or it may discourage people from lynching regardless of his affiliation. This is coming from someone who's been relatively hidden all game and has been very shifty-quiet...
Caller:
Mafia KP=3 2 veterans in the game. DO YOU RUN AS MAYOR? Hell NO.
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On May 21 2009 12:35 Malongo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2009 12:33 Caller wrote:On May 21 2009 12:32 Malongo wrote:On May 21 2009 12:23 Ace wrote:On May 21 2009 12:21 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Ace, ver will die flip blue, and then town realizes the retard in office is hey, YOU.
Then we look at your supporters through this retardedness and have an idea who to lynch tommorrow. how much $$ you wanna put on this? Ver is not blue. Why the hell do you think a veteran would go first in mayorals runners, win the fucking election and all the reasons i labeled before. In fact if he is veteran he is a dumbass. Put yourself in Vers "veteran" position you will see the truth. As I said I dont have a fucking real clue against Ace but VER IS NOT TOWNIE SIDE a Roleclaim MAYOR veteran LOL! b Lynched infinity a random player that gave us 0 info about the mayorals or inactives c Lucaswoj incident (I think mafia just messed up with milkymoo) d Random activity posting e Not lynching Nemy. f PMs All this are not little mistakes: they are plain stupid plays, VER IS SMART ENOUGH NOT TO DO THIS IF TOWN SIDED. this has got to be one of the stupidest posts I've ever seen. Even if he isn't, Ver has a good incentive to RC veteran. It'll discourage mafia from hitting him at night if he's town, or it may discourage people from lynching regardless of his affiliation. This is coming from someone who's been relatively hidden all game and has been very shifty-quiet... Caller: Mafia KP=3 2 veterans in the game. DO YOU RUN AS MAYOR? Hell NO.
Malongo: You are town, you know you can get office. Do you run as mayor? HELL YES.
If you know you can get office, you get it. If you're blue, the spot isn't in red hands. If you're red, it isn't in blue hands.
What shitty fucking analysis.
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On May 21 2009 12:35 Malongo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2009 12:33 Caller wrote:On May 21 2009 12:32 Malongo wrote:On May 21 2009 12:23 Ace wrote:On May 21 2009 12:21 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Ace, ver will die flip blue, and then town realizes the retard in office is hey, YOU.
Then we look at your supporters through this retardedness and have an idea who to lynch tommorrow. how much $$ you wanna put on this? Ver is not blue. Why the hell do you think a veteran would go first in mayorals runners, win the fucking election and all the reasons i labeled before. In fact if he is veteran he is a dumbass. Put yourself in Vers "veteran" position you will see the truth. As I said I dont have a fucking real clue against Ace but VER IS NOT TOWNIE SIDE a Roleclaim MAYOR veteran LOL! b Lynched infinity a random player that gave us 0 info about the mayorals or inactives c Lucaswoj incident (I think mafia just messed up with milkymoo) d Random activity posting e Not lynching Nemy. f PMs All this are not little mistakes: they are plain stupid plays, VER IS SMART ENOUGH NOT TO DO THIS IF TOWN SIDED. this has got to be one of the stupidest posts I've ever seen. Even if he isn't, Ver has a good incentive to RC veteran. It'll discourage mafia from hitting him at night if he's town, or it may discourage people from lynching regardless of his affiliation. This is coming from someone who's been relatively hidden all game and has been very shifty-quiet... Caller: Mafia KP=3 2 veterans in the game. DO YOU RUN AS MAYOR? Hell NO.
why not? There shouldn't be a restriction on who is allowed to run for mayor or not. Maybe he was going to bluff mafia into wasting hits on him or something.
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On May 21 2009 12:36 L wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2009 12:35 Malongo wrote:On May 21 2009 12:33 Caller wrote:On May 21 2009 12:32 Malongo wrote:On May 21 2009 12:23 Ace wrote:On May 21 2009 12:21 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Ace, ver will die flip blue, and then town realizes the retard in office is hey, YOU.
Then we look at your supporters through this retardedness and have an idea who to lynch tommorrow. how much $$ you wanna put on this? Ver is not blue. Why the hell do you think a veteran would go first in mayorals runners, win the fucking election and all the reasons i labeled before. In fact if he is veteran he is a dumbass. Put yourself in Vers "veteran" position you will see the truth. As I said I dont have a fucking real clue against Ace but VER IS NOT TOWNIE SIDE a Roleclaim MAYOR veteran LOL! b Lynched infinity a random player that gave us 0 info about the mayorals or inactives c Lucaswoj incident (I think mafia just messed up with milkymoo) d Random activity posting e Not lynching Nemy. f PMs All this are not little mistakes: they are plain stupid plays, VER IS SMART ENOUGH NOT TO DO THIS IF TOWN SIDED. this has got to be one of the stupidest posts I've ever seen. Even if he isn't, Ver has a good incentive to RC veteran. It'll discourage mafia from hitting him at night if he's town, or it may discourage people from lynching regardless of his affiliation. This is coming from someone who's been relatively hidden all game and has been very shifty-quiet... Caller: Mafia KP=3 2 veterans in the game. DO YOU RUN AS MAYOR? Hell NO. Malongo: You are town, you know you can get office. Do you run as mayor? HELL YES. If you know you can get office, you get it. If you're blue, the spot isn't in red hands. If you're red, it isn't in blue hands. What shitty fucking analysis.
Yea I agree with this lol. Good try Malongo but if you are town and think you can get office you do it in hopes of kicking a red out.
Doesn't help Ver though as he's scum and his time in office won't last long.
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Rebirth changes from Ver to Ace, making it 10 vs 12.
Everybody who is switching last minute, especially those who are going from Ver to Ace, should know that they are very suspect.
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Yes they are.
Kinda sad Tricode didnt' just plop another vote on ver at the last minute. That woulda been fun.
Doesn't help Ver though as he's scum
Lol Tracil.
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On May 21 2009 12:36 L wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2009 12:35 Malongo wrote:On May 21 2009 12:33 Caller wrote:On May 21 2009 12:32 Malongo wrote:On May 21 2009 12:23 Ace wrote:On May 21 2009 12:21 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Ace, ver will die flip blue, and then town realizes the retard in office is hey, YOU.
Then we look at your supporters through this retardedness and have an idea who to lynch tommorrow. how much $$ you wanna put on this? Ver is not blue. Why the hell do you think a veteran would go first in mayorals runners, win the fucking election and all the reasons i labeled before. In fact if he is veteran he is a dumbass. Put yourself in Vers "veteran" position you will see the truth. As I said I dont have a fucking real clue against Ace but VER IS NOT TOWNIE SIDE a Roleclaim MAYOR veteran LOL! b Lynched infinity a random player that gave us 0 info about the mayorals or inactives c Lucaswoj incident (I think mafia just messed up with milkymoo) d Random activity posting e Not lynching Nemy. f PMs All this are not little mistakes: they are plain stupid plays, VER IS SMART ENOUGH NOT TO DO THIS IF TOWN SIDED. this has got to be one of the stupidest posts I've ever seen. Even if he isn't, Ver has a good incentive to RC veteran. It'll discourage mafia from hitting him at night if he's town, or it may discourage people from lynching regardless of his affiliation. This is coming from someone who's been relatively hidden all game and has been very shifty-quiet... Caller: Mafia KP=3 2 veterans in the game. DO YOU RUN AS MAYOR? Hell NO. Malongo: You are town, you know you can get office. Do you run as mayor? HELL YES. If you know you can get office, you get it. If you're blue, the spot isn't in red hands. If you're red, it isn't in blue hands. What shitty fucking analysis.
Lol. This is just too much. You are Mafia I bet 10 dollars.
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Don't forget to add Incognito also. He's another cuntbucket worthy of my vengeance list.
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Ace if you're going to be that passionate about it, I'll make a deal with you. Convince me why I should vote for Ver over you. And none of that bullshit anti-L argument.
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Caller if you've read this thread and can't come to the conclusion by now then there's nothing I can do for you. Vote how you please. There are enough arguments that don't deal with L that I've made about Ver some pages way in the back there. Oh well.
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The voters switching to Ace will be looked at given the information we get from killing both Ace and Ver. If both turn out red, for instance, Caller's abstention looks fucking sketchy as shit and Rebirth's vote looks legit, for instance.
Then we take the first day votes and see where people voted. From that we compile that information with independant clue information.
This is why I waited so long to post my plan: to get unbiased unplan-touched clue analysis. Town provided like.. 2 scraps worth, so I went ahead.
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On May 21 2009 12:44 Ace wrote:
Caller if you've read this thread and can't come to the conclusion by now then there's nothing I can do for you. Vote how you please. There are enough arguments that don't deal with L that I've made about Ver some pages way in the back there. Oh well.
ONCE AGAIN
Ver's guilt does not mean YOU aren't guilty.
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L look at all those guys that just last minute voted for me - come on man don't do it!
Switch your vote! Stop using me as a shield just to get your info!
This is JUST like that time I was Jakiro and Testie used me as a fucking shield to get a triple kill. FUCK!
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I am on your vengeance list because I voted for you? You remind me of the village idiot...oh well. Ver will get modkilled by Qatol yay. Confirmed.
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