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nemY
United States3119 Posts
Original Message: content I have a feeling you might be blue but I'll keep my thoughts to myself. Original Message: If you think I'm blue, why not vote for me for mayor then? Blue as mayor would make sense yes? :[ Original Message: Blue does make sense, but I'm not going to just randomly vote for someone who might be blue. Chances are dangerous. Especially when one has no platform. But what do you think of the other candidates? I'm still deciding...this is difficult. | ||
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nemY
United States3119 Posts
Guess I really should have copy/pasted the whole thing in lol. | ||
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L
Canada4732 Posts
but you keep insisting First off, I said that once. Second, you're quoting a post made FIVE HOURS AGO. Third, you've been very active between then and here. I started off my analysis looking for blue players because I wanted to know who to support and who not to support in the mayoral running. I personally think i'm 90%+ correct on them and for 2 of them i'm not sure exactly what role they are, but its pretty obvious that some are blue and not red. Why am I not saying anything about mafia? Because I want to be more certain and want to see if clues match up with those people who I find suspicious due to behavior/lack of activity/voting patterns. Basically you're saying that I'm mafia because I'm not accusing people of being mafia on turn 1. Okay, slick. | ||
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Incognito
United States2071 Posts
On May 17 2009 14:40 L wrote: First off, I said that once. Second, you're quoting a post made FIVE HOURS AGO. Third, you've been very active between then and here. I started off my analysis looking for blue players because I wanted to know who to support and who not to support in the mayoral running. I personally think i'm 90%+ correct on them and for 2 of them i'm not sure exactly what role they are, but its pretty obvious that some are blue and not red. Why am I not saying anything about mafia? Because I want to be more certain and want to see if clues match up with those people who I find suspicious due to behavior/lack of activity/voting patterns. Basically you're saying that I'm mafia because I'm not accusing people of being mafia on turn 1. Okay, slick. I was out for the evening. I would have responded earlier but I got a BSOD right when i was typing my post  had to leave then.I'm not saying you're mafia. I think you are perhaps just being a little to confident in your blue picks. That is all. | ||
Bockit
Sydney2287 Posts
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Incognito
United States2071 Posts
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7876 Posts
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Bockit
Sydney2287 Posts
On May 17 2009 14:20 L wrote: You can't protect everyone all the time. If you're going off last game, the medics were pretty off the wall. Better players means better medics. Lets hope that holds true. And Bockit, for someone that was in IRC with me finding ways to fuck empyrean over during Mafia 2, you're looking at this in an awfully interesting way. Also, why you drunk so much? O_o The difference that I see between this and game 2 was that empyrean came out as dt to force town to vote him into mayor just because he wanted to be mayor. There was no "Mafia have found me I need the protection". Though similar, I see it as different enough to take caution before we decide he's a dt. It's 21st season ^_^ | ||
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Bockit
Sydney2287 Posts
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MTF
United States1739 Posts
While I still think what he did was dumb and panicked, I don't think he is Mafia. Furthermore, based on some suspicions and activity of others, I believe Mafia might be worried about this turn of events. So, despite my curiosity of Showtime!'s abilities, I feel like this is a gamble where the payoff is worth it. I understand that Mafia 2 (which L keeps citing) does not prove that we should put Nemy into office. We can't learn from mistakes whose only common foundation is the lack of blind trust that an individual is telling the truth. I also understand that what Nemy has done is both forceful and either incredibly dumb or risky. There is no fault in putting no faith into what he says, but look at the (assumed) facts: - Nemy did act like he might be blue, especially in his frustrated "c'mon guys, trust me" post. - Nemy was PMed by Incognito (who confirmed) about it, though it was not several people as he had claimed. Now, looking at these two bits of information we have to assume one of three things; 1. Nemy is a DT and just panicked. 2. Nemy set himself up to look blue to others and, upon being called out on it, went into a false panic. 3. Nemy and Incognito are both in on it and set it all up. Which of these answers seems the most likely to you? | ||
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nemY
United States3119 Posts
On May 17 2009 14:52 BloodyC0bbler wrote: I'm going with your both retarded I think plenty of nice/mean things about you as well but you don't see me saying them everywhere... anyways, can we move back to the mayor candidates? | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7876 Posts
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Bockit
Sydney2287 Posts
Working on the assumption that nemy is a dt, what do we do now? Do we elect him into position instead of one of the big guns currently running for it? I'm going to think about this in the next couple of hours, I wonder what everyone else thinks (about nemy's legitimacy, in light of the last few pages, and what we should do if you think he is legit) | ||
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nemY
United States3119 Posts
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7876 Posts
On May 17 2009 14:55 nemY wrote: I think plenty of nice/mean things about you as well but you don't see me saying them everywhere... anyways, can we move back to the mayor candidates? I have told people multiple times, PM discussion is lame, its never reliable evidence, and leaves you too many holes on being caught. Hense, participating in them is not a bright move. | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7876 Posts
On May 17 2009 14:56 nemY wrote: Btw guys if it's really that big of a deal to you, just make sure the votes are safe enough for me to be Pardoner... I don't really have any intentions of using it. Then why fing run in the first place? You could have stayed hidden and off the radar (which is what a dt should be doing.) Your entire play is sketchy this game. | ||
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L
Canada4732 Posts
I was out for the evening. I would have responded earlier but I got a BSOD right when i was typing my post had to leave then. I'm not saying you're mafia. I think you are perhaps just being a little to confident in your blue picks. That is all. Way to pussy out when you realize you got caught acting like a moron. The tone of your previous post is COMPLETELY inconsistent with your meek reply. You stepped up to accuse. Red colour and all. Take responsibility for pointing the finger at someone who's going to flip townside. Oh, speaking of which. When I die I want someone to post a complete list of my posts. The difference that I see between this and game 2 was that empyrean came out as dt to force town to vote him into mayor just because he wanted to be mayor. There was no "Mafia have found me I need the protection". Though similar, I see it as different enough to take caution before we decide he's a dt. Feel free to go and look how we, as mafia, influenced the discussion. If anything, the current situation, with the 2 man confirmed pms, the lowered mafia count, the lowered KP and the weaker nature of the offices (Mafia 2 office was RIDICULOUS powerful) all point towards less reason for mafia to put themselves under the spotlight. And I'm citing mafia 2 so that people can see how MAFIA will react to this situation, not to say he's 100% blue obv np. I'm saying ignore the situation as it is and remove yourself from your role. Then think about how mafia would act given this situation. How would they act to plant nemy in the first place? How would the react if he's not one of them? The second situation is already covered. You can go look at the case example which has largely been replicated here by a number of players. | ||
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L
Canada4732 Posts
But that's going to make vote analysis when we come down to the wire REALLY ANNOYING. | ||
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Incognito
United States2071 Posts
@ BC and L: Do you really think I'd be that stupid to be a mafia supporting a mafia when its clear that this is a controversial topic? | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7876 Posts
You tend to be pretty ballsy | ||
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