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HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
May 17 2009 02:42 GMT
#241
hey ver
how do we know you're not mafia and this isn't just a ploy to make sure he doesn't get votes; so that you're ensured mayor?
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
Tricode
Profile Joined January 2009
United States538 Posts
May 17 2009 02:47 GMT
#242
On May 17 2009 11:42 HeavOnEarth wrote:
hey ver
how do we know you're not mafia and this isn't just a ploy to make sure he doesn't get votes; so that you're ensured mayor?


EASY! We don't. That is why you kinda have suspect everyone but try to work together at the same time.

Maybe for the real good top vets that might change but unless you are one of them, you can never be certain.
1, 2, he is coming for you. Kill the C0bbler!
Ver
Profile Joined October 2008
United States2186 Posts
May 17 2009 02:50 GMT
#243
On May 17 2009 11:42 HeavOnEarth wrote:
hey ver
how do we know you're not mafia and this isn't just a ploy to make sure he doesn't get votes; so that you're ensured mayor?


Because it's completely illogical to vote him in.

We have no reason to believe him and Nemy's pulled this fake roleclaiming in the past.

Whether Nemy is DT, traitor, Mafia, or any other role is irrelevent. He has provided us ZERO reasoning why we should put him in office.

If I was mafia I wouldn't be posting so much because I'd be spending all my time on mafia strategy/organizing. Pay attention and you'll see for yourself if you aren't convinced yet but posting stuff like this is just adding confusion and chaos to the fire. Don't do it.
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Malongo
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3479 Posts
May 17 2009 02:50 GMT
#244
On May 17 2009 11:42 HeavOnEarth wrote:
hey ver
how do we know you're not mafia and this isn't just a ploy to make sure he doesn't get votes; so that you're ensured mayor?

Obviously nobody can confirm that. However ver has a really good point here, dts roleclaiming first day are not good for the town. Im inclined to believe Nemy is at least traitor, and if he is actually dt... GTFO very poorly played. Note also that dts dont roleclaim publicly ever. In all mafias ive played only sog made it after he got protection.
Help me! im still improving my English. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. M. G.
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
May 17 2009 02:51 GMT
#245
Ok
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
Mynock
Profile Joined September 2002
4492 Posts
May 17 2009 02:59 GMT
#246
On May 17 2009 08:43 Mynock wrote:
Several other options also present themselves, and I'd be curious as to who sent u those PMs? Would people who msged nemY come out and say why they put him on blue and why they then have msged him?


On May 17 2009 11:33 Ver wrote:
Now Nemy, I want you to list exactly who pm'ed you about being a blue. Then I want those people to confirm it publically.


nemY, if you indeed want to help the Town, please do this. Other than that, putting you on Traitor explains a lot of your actions. No platform, causing disturbance, trying to get into office no matter what, possibly luring out DTs... It fits.
Ver
Profile Joined October 2008
United States2186 Posts
May 17 2009 03:03 GMT
#247
On May 17 2009 11:59 Mynock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2009 08:43 Mynock wrote:
Several other options also present themselves, and I'd be curious as to who sent u those PMs? Would people who msged nemY come out and say why they put him on blue and why they then have msged him?


Show nested quote +
On May 17 2009 11:33 Ver wrote:
Now Nemy, I want you to list exactly who pm'ed you about being a blue. Then I want those people to confirm it publically.


nemY, if you indeed want to help the Town, please do this. Other than that, putting you on Traitor explains a lot of your actions. No platform, causing disturbance, trying to get into office no matter what, possibly luring out DTs... It fits.


Nice I didn't see that. Glad that we're on the same page.
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Mynock
Profile Joined September 2002
4492 Posts
May 17 2009 03:07 GMT
#248
It's an obvious decision I think. Whenever there's ambiguity, the Town benefits from clearing it up ASAP.

Anyway, I was pulling an all-nighter with my translation stuff here, but enough is enough, I'm off to bed for now
infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
May 17 2009 03:23 GMT
#249
this is my first time playing mafia in a while.. I don't really know what's going on so I'm observing

I'm pretty terrible at this game so I'm hoping to learn something
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Tricode
Profile Joined January 2009
United States538 Posts
May 17 2009 03:25 GMT
#250
On May 17 2009 12:23 infinity21 wrote:
this is my first time playing mafia in a while.. I don't really know what's going on so I'm observing

I'm pretty terrible at this game so I'm hoping to learn something


Just remmember the goal in the game is to kill bloodycobbler and you should be fine.
1, 2, he is coming for you. Kill the C0bbler!
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
May 17 2009 03:31 GMT
#251
Everyone. Please do yourselves a favor and go look at Mafia 2. The exact same play was used. The exact same argument against it was used.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
LucasWoJ
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States936 Posts
May 17 2009 03:43 GMT
#252
On May 17 2009 11:50 Malongo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2009 11:42 HeavOnEarth wrote:
hey ver
how do we know you're not mafia and this isn't just a ploy to make sure he doesn't get votes; so that you're ensured mayor?

Obviously nobody can confirm that. However ver has a really good point here, dts roleclaiming first day are not good for the town. Im inclined to believe Nemy is at least traitor, and if he is actually dt... GTFO very poorly played. Note also that dts dont roleclaim publicly ever. In all mafias ive played only sog made it after he got protection.


Okay malongo. Calm down. Last game, mafia feasted off of the town's reckless emotions and kept the town in perpetual chaos. You're doing the exact same thing with your post.


@ Tricode: Just so you know, you're derailing the thread without having resolved the nemy "situation." Although your post was made in good humor, please don't do that now.



Personally, I'm inclined to think that nemy himself would not be clever enough to have thought of what you proposed, Ver (namely, run for mayor, roleclaim blue when he's really the traitor). I doubt anyone suggested the idea to him, too. If I recall correctly from previous games, nemy is generally not a "late-game player, meaning he does not strive to outlive anyone. To me, he seems to be a retarded blue.
"Of all the words of mice and men, the saddest are it could have been." - Kurt Vonnegut
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
May 17 2009 03:48 GMT
#253
On May 17 2009 12:43 LucasWoJ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2009 11:50 Malongo wrote:
On May 17 2009 11:42 HeavOnEarth wrote:
hey ver
how do we know you're not mafia and this isn't just a ploy to make sure he doesn't get votes; so that you're ensured mayor?

Obviously nobody can confirm that. However ver has a really good point here, dts roleclaiming first day are not good for the town. Im inclined to believe Nemy is at least traitor, and if he is actually dt... GTFO very poorly played. Note also that dts dont roleclaim publicly ever. In all mafias ive played only sog made it after he got protection.


Okay malongo. Calm down. Last game, mafia feasted off of the town's reckless emotions and kept the town in perpetual chaos. You're doing the exact same thing with your post.


@ Tricode: Just so you know, you're derailing the thread without having resolved the nemy "situation." Although your post was made in good humor, please don't do that now.



Personally, I'm inclined to think that nemy himself would not be clever enough to have thought of what you proposed, Ver (namely, run for mayor, roleclaim blue when he's really the traitor). I doubt anyone suggested the idea to him, too. If I recall correctly from previous games, nemy is generally not a "late-game player, meaning he does not strive to outlive anyone. To me, he seems to be a retarded blue.

Lucas, from my experience, nemy isn't that stupid. I've had many PM convos in the past, and he's often been active backstage (before he gets offed after night 1).
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Tricode
Profile Joined January 2009
United States538 Posts
May 17 2009 03:49 GMT
#254
@LucasWoj, sorry, but for right now, i think we kinda have to wait for Nemy to come back with his response. Such as Mynock's and Ver's request.

I don't want to dwell to deep into it, cause it might cause confusion and chaos.

Yeah what Nemy did is stupid, but i think it has become real distracting and let's just say someone in the mafia is trying to run in the office, well Nemy provided a good distraction imo.

So let's not waste to much focus fire on him cause we already know what he did is either "Stupid" or he is a traitor/mafia.
1, 2, he is coming for you. Kill the C0bbler!
Tricode
Profile Joined January 2009
United States538 Posts
May 17 2009 03:50 GMT
#255
Edit:We really are only repeating what has already been said by Ver and Mynock, so just keep nemy case open but try to look at other concerns also.
1, 2, he is coming for you. Kill the C0bbler!
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
May 17 2009 04:12 GMT
#256
If nemy reveals his chat buddies, mafia will be given a list of analysts.

And quite frankly, nemy's move is not stupid, nor is it against what the town wants. nemy's move is a fairly strong gambit. If he's not lying we gain a LOT from trusting him enough to get into office.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
Tricode
Profile Joined January 2009
United States538 Posts
May 17 2009 04:12 GMT
#257
@L and if the opposite?
1, 2, he is coming for you. Kill the C0bbler!
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
May 17 2009 04:14 GMT
#258
On May 17 2009 11:59 Mynock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2009 08:43 Mynock wrote:
Several other options also present themselves, and I'd be curious as to who sent u those PMs? Would people who msged nemY come out and say why they put him on blue and why they then have msged him?


Show nested quote +
On May 17 2009 11:33 Ver wrote:
Now Nemy, I want you to list exactly who pm'ed you about being a blue. Then I want those people to confirm it publically.


nemY, if you indeed want to help the Town, please do this. Other than that, putting you on Traitor explains a lot of your actions. No platform, causing disturbance, trying to get into office no matter what, possibly luring out DTs... It fits.


-Incognito was the only one who truly mentioned it to me in PM

-L's posts are what made me realize how friggin' dumb I was/still-am (I still shouldn't have r/c'd obviously)

-I'm hoping to get some form of protection because regardless I'm a goner Night 1 (even before the r/c, this is a game of people who have played before, surely a mafia would have noticed my flaw)

-I'm a pretty bad liar (in case you haven't noticed from previous games)

-In the event that I'm not elected into office med protection would be nice...

-Really though I haven't seen where I've tried to lure out dts, please explain at least that to me?
Tricode
Profile Joined January 2009
United States538 Posts
May 17 2009 04:22 GMT
#259
Well, my mind is a blank at what to do for right now about this.
1, 2, he is coming for you. Kill the C0bbler!
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
May 17 2009 04:29 GMT
#260
Just to clarify for you folks, look long and deep at the ppl running for mayor... because I suspect that the overwhelming majority of them are mafia scum, GF is probably not running because GF need not run (since once an individual becomes mayor/pardoner they are immune to r/c's). The more I look at the situation the more I think these ppl are just using me for as much info as they get before they kill me. In the future... I'm just not gonna speak
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