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Camlito
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Ace
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On December 08 2008 13:32 Ver wrote: Haha I see. DABA is so random though. If it's not too much trouble mind posting the medics/capo/bonebreakers too and if possible, where the mafia overlapped? Night 1 Actions: (Luchesse Family) BumAtLarge – Meegrean Pyrrhuloxia - Folca BloodyCoBBler - Fishball blue_arrow – Shadowdrgn Amber[light]- Artanis Ocz3c- Camlito Renegade_zerg- Myheronoob Randombum - MrBabyHands Kweezy- Elemenope Mynock- Pokebunny Yamagumi-guchi KH1031 - Pyyrhuloxia SHOWTIME! - randombum Versatile - lakrismamma inertptinerpt - BuGzlToOnl wurm - Amber[LighT] Bockit - MTF xcetron - decafchicken Versatile - Mynock Nemy - blue_arrow showtime! infects inerptinerpt. softer places a bomb on MTF malongo prots Scaramanga (survives night 1) Caller prots Ver RaGe prots Ver TruthBringers martyrs Caller Versatile survives 1 hit, but is killed Night 2 actions: TruthBringer Martyrs Daba RebirthofLegend vigis Folca Midnight Gladius vigis SpiralArchitect LucasWoj vigis Empyrean softer removes bomb from MTF Caller prots Artanis[xp] Rage prots Ver Luchesse Family Bluemanrocks - Mrbabyhands Spetial - Incognito/pokebunny softer - meegrean a lot are missing because I deleted them after some point also, bonebreakers and capos never did anything except for one who tried to Bonebreak MTF but was too late | ||
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RebirthOfLeGenD
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Malongo
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Fishball
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On December 08 2008 12:52 Ver wrote: Ace I never would've guessed trancestorm haha. Actually I had klassyk down as a potential lucchese mafia for awhile though. bloodycobbler here's why I went for you early. bloodycobbler: His posts this game are: saying infundibulum is temp banned and voting for mtf with no reason. Now contrast this with game 3, where he is a towny and is one of the most active ones, makes somewhat long, well thought out posts, and is a good analyzer. This keeps him from being under too much suspicion even though he was on the votelist with a 40% chance of being mafia from that alone. FURTHERMORE, he is active, just not posting in our game. During the time that this current game has been going on, he's made 7 other posts in the game 3 thread, and the low frequency was only because the game was virtually dead/over (although he still put time into 1-2 of them). Thus, there is no way he can claim inactivity. I heavily suspect silent mafia wanting to avoid detection. --------- This strategy of targeting worked *ok* but far worse than I thought. I have no idea why but a lot of previous big performers just didn't care this game. I mean emp was a vet and he tried running for mayor before roles were passed out then went inactive the rest of the game?? mmmm other random pms: From: Caller Subject: hmm funny funny Date: 11/21/08 23:35 so kleezy comes to me and claims she is dt and that she investigated versatile of all things (veteran). what makes this sketchy is that this came AFTER I TOLD EVERYBODY TO LISTEN TO ME AND NOT USE THEIR ABILITY anddddddddd.... it was 25 minutes after night started. hmmmmmmmm, im thinking of a word that rhymes with *tapo --------------------------------- From: Caller Subject: Re: elder situation Date: 11/28/08 13:46 ninja4ever is definitely lying im putting a vig on him right now ----------------------------------------- Original Message: Delanzia is clear. There is a 5th hidden vote for you. Ninja4ever never responded to me when I asked him to prove his innocence 2 days ago. Not good. Can the other (2?) prove their innocence? Who are they? Jeejee is one you said. From him- ----------------------------------------- i elder voted for caller ace wont update it till voting ends ----------------------------------------- Original Message: i believe we have a fake elder T_T ------------------------------------- From: Showtime! Subject: 5 mafia die tonight Date: 11/20/08 21:08 those clues were too easy. ----------------------------------------- From: Caller Subject: well. Date: 12/6/08 07:23 ------------------ it appears you have played me for a fool. well done sir. that being said i still have one card up my sleeve that you don't know about ^^ ------- (what was that card? ![]() I can't really post much else because anything that has/quoting a pm of mine is super long and nobody will read it lol. The problem with irc infiltration is that it removes virtually all risk. Like we were so suspicious of certain things (showtime being godfather, kweezy being capo, capos posing as dts in general) but the only things that ever happened were mtf running for mayor and artanis roleclaiming vigi. The Yamaguchi were much easier to figure out because they had to expose themselves to get MTF to run for mayor, while the Lucchese could just hide back with all their information and never expose anything. To the end of the game I only had folca, fishball, artanis, myheronoob, and incognito on a list with several others as 'highly likely mafia.' Other random things: inertinept roleclaimed medic but was actually a townie lol. Btw I'm not fully convinced that the blues were just figured out from pure analysis. I know that many gave themselves away (bgs, kh, kweezy, delanzia, lucaswoj, scaramanga, malongo to name a few) but some of them were almost totally inactive and had little to differentiate them from the rest (ninja4ever, softer, spetial, midnight gladius, bluemanrocks). Mind elaborating, because 1 single misshit in day 3 is really odd. Oh yeah Ace, mind listing the role actions? I'm curious to see who followed orders, and why the hell softer had no bombs planted. Heh Ver, reading your other long post and this one, I agree with you on what you say about Caller. Caller isn't very bright, or to say, not bright at all. I'm sure a lot of people would agree with me here. If Folca never gave up the list, and the game would proceed as "intended", he would have never been able to figure out anything himself, and would be lynched this day. Just by judging his writing skills in posts, PMs, his uber analysis and reasoning, he is going no where. Those few pages of debate we had, I literally turned all his weapons he tried to use against himself. A lot of the times, his logical thinking and arguments are just a bit off. Like I've said before, I join the game to screw around and have fun. I specifically asked Camilto to let me kill Bloodycobbler (an online friend of mine I knew through TL for quite a while). My behavior in all games, red or green, is just to stay low and observe. I'm never the type to step up and debate and tell everyone my thoughts, but I decided to post a bit and screw with Caller after he started accusing me. It must be love. | ||
Camlito
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Caller
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On December 08 2008 15:22 Fishball wrote: Heh Ver, reading your other long post and this one, I agree with you on what you say about Caller. Caller isn't very bright, or to say, not bright at all. I'm sure a lot of people would agree with me here. If Folca never gave up the list, and the game would proceed as "intended", he would have never been able to figure out anything himself, and would be lynched this day. Just by judging his writing skills in posts, PMs, his uber analysis and reasoning, he is going no where. Those few pages of debate we had, I literally turned all his weapons he tried to use against himself. A lot of the times, his logical thinking and arguments are just a bit off. Like I've said before, I join the game to screw around and have fun. I specifically asked Camilto to let me kill Bloodycobbler (an online friend of mine I knew through TL for quite a while). My behavior in all games, red or green, is just to stay low and observe. I'm never the type to step up and debate and tell everyone my thoughts, but I decided to post a bit and screw with Caller after he started accusing me. It must be love. ouch lol that was quite the burn in my defense keep in mind those were the "blooper" posts though. and i'm naturally suspicious of everybody, that's just how I am. Especially when someone deviates from my planning. That's just how I roll. during our little debate by the way, I wasn't really trying to debate you. if you'd noticed by the large number of "lol" and "i no rite" posts i wasn't paying attention to much of what you said at all. and no, i wouldn't have been lynched today. tbh we were suspecting camlito already (actually because we thought he was affiliated with Plexa) and I could always play the paramedic card. like i said, i'm not particularily good at clue analysis, or administration. all i'm good at is crafting plans and processing data and predicting next moves. clearly i'm not running for mayor next game, thank you very much. | ||
clazziquai
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Ver
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On December 08 2008 15:22 Fishball wrote: Heh Ver, reading your other long post and this one, I agree with you on what you say about Caller. Caller isn't very bright, or to say, not bright at all. I'm sure a lot of people would agree with me here. If Folca never gave up the list, and the game would proceed as "intended", he would have never been able to figure out anything himself, and would be lynched this day. Just by judging his writing skills in posts, PMs, his uber analysis and reasoning, he is going no where. Those few pages of debate we had, I literally turned all his weapons he tried to use against himself. A lot of the times, his logical thinking and arguments are just a bit off. Like I've said before, I join the game to screw around and have fun. I specifically asked Camilto to let me kill Bloodycobbler (an online friend of mine I knew through TL for quite a while). My behavior in all games, red or green, is just to stay low and observe. I'm never the type to step up and debate and tell everyone my thoughts, but I decided to post a bit and screw with Caller after he started accusing me. It must be love. Uhh I wasn't saying anything about Caller's intelligence dunno where you got that from. I dunno about the debate posts, didn't really read closely. I never paid attention to those since both of us were posting a lot of garbage in public to mess with people and avoid giving information, so I bet that was what happened. I guess I should've explained the pms but they were all hilarious to myself. Let's see in order... The capo thing was totally a possibility and I blame you mafia for not being more daring ^_^ The fake elder ninja4ever thing was just to test me. Notice how he never had him vigied (midnight gladius should've killed youI think but he went rambo or something on the blatantly non-mafia SA)? Showtime's pm was right before 5 mafia died first night. Pretty nice prediction eh? Caller and I had various exchanges of half-accusing each other (for logical reasons off of the billion coincidences that happened to us). That one just makes more sense out of context than me sending "ahahah -- how amusing" or something such. Furthermore, he had some really really good plans (which is why I trusted him) that were foiled both by inactivity and you guys seizing the role list early on and killing 5 yamaguchi 1st night. If the game had proceeded as normal things would've been a lot different. I was the one who did the behavior/posting/people analysis most of the time btw. Don't hate yo. | ||
Caller
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there's another plan i have and its really really good but if i tell a mafia it will be ruined. i think i can trust you though. shortly after the day 1 post hopefully all the DTs will contact us. I will tell all of them that for now they'll stand down, somebody else will check MTF. but only one person will check MTF and they will not tell everybody, they will just tell me. Then, assuming he pops green (like i suspect) i will announce that a dt has reported to me that MTF is a red mafia. This will set off many alarm bells and hopefully I can get a shitload of people to vote for him. Now here's the magic: I PARDON MTF. Now we have a list of MTF votes. Most of them will undoubtedly be mafia trying to get rid of a mayor and the double lynch. This list will be vote checked. I'll invent some reason for keeping him alive for now. Now assuming that people respond how I think they should, we should have about 25 votes for MTF and about 10-15 will be mafia. I will misrepresent this and instead say a DT told me 2 were mafia. Because both mafias may think that the other side has a fake DT or something, they will swing the list, and if we get lucky we could have 5-8 dead mafia in one night just from MAFIA KILLS alone. also the day after we can see which family took the most hits, and if the MTF votes favor one family then we know somethings funny. Notice it doesn't matter whether or not MTF is godfather/traitor or not. there's clear flaws in it, but if you weren't expecting it (i doubt mafia was) i think it would've worked pretty well. | ||
Spike
United States1392 Posts
On December 08 2008 15:46 Caller wrote: Here was the plan we were going to institute Day 1: Notice it doesn't matter whether or not MTF is godfather/traitor or not. there's clear flaws in it, but if you weren't expecting it (i doubt mafia was) i think it would've worked pretty well. 5 Mafias still died on the first day lol... Our side decided to avoid any MAFIA offing early on to maximize killings and all that. | ||
MrBabyHands
United States72 Posts
On December 08 2008 15:46 Caller wrote: Notice it doesn't matter whether or not MTF is godfather/traitor or not. there's clear flaws in it, but if you weren't expecting it (i doubt mafia was) i think it would've worked pretty well. if MTF was winning in votes and looked like he was gonna get lynched, i'm pretty sure we woulda bone broke you shortly before voting was over. | ||
RebirthOfLeGenD
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![]() However I will agree with ver, I did type several long winded PM's only to get a few short ones back which didn't answer over half of my questions. | ||
Caller
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On December 08 2008 15:54 Spike wrote: 5 Mafias still died on the first day lol... Our side decided to avoid any MAFIA offing early on to maximize killings and all that. yeah but i wasnt expecting the other side to obtain the other mafia's names hahaha you guys need better irc security, der ![]() and the difference between my plan and that is that my plan would balance mafia deaths between the two families (more or less) which would be more to town advantage. Also, we weren't counting on mrbabyhands and ur precision. damn irc. | ||
Caller
Poland8075 Posts
On December 08 2008 15:56 MrBabyHands wrote: if MTF was winning in votes and looked like he was gonna get lynched, i'm pretty sure we woulda bone broke you shortly before voting was over. i couldve sent my pardon request in ahead of time. even if he died it wouldn't have done much. the only reason i was so willing to do it on him was because a) he was suspicious b) he had no idea what I was going to do and likely would defend himself to the end. if anything, his death would have given me props and more support for the list that I was whiphping out. | ||
MrBabyHands
United States72 Posts
On December 08 2008 15:58 Caller wrote: Also, we weren't counting on mrbabyhands and ur precision. damn irc. yessssssssssss fearrrrr the BabyHands! | ||
Caller
Poland8075 Posts
On December 08 2008 16:00 MrBabyHands wrote: yessssssssssss fearrrrr the BabyHands! yah, ur like the mule from the Foundation series. Nobody could predict your existence, and you fucked everything up ![]() | ||
MrBabyHands
United States72 Posts
On December 08 2008 16:01 Caller wrote: yah, ur like the mule from the Foundation series. Nobody could predict your existence, and you fucked everything up ![]() lol. well i thought things were going quite well on our end. ![]() until our list leak ![]() | ||
Incognito
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I'll both agree/disagree with Caller vs. Fishball. Caller isn't as stupid as Fishball is claiming, but he does have a decent amount of flaws in his arguments, and he was NOT discrete at all with his information (like it mattered at the end). Also Caller's activity looked really suspicious from the beginning, and he frequently came across with angry posts, which didn't help his image either. So while I'm not saying that Caller is stupid, I think he needs to think out how his image is seen and also how he handles information. Accusing people without proof (except for the list that you didn't tell anyone about) isn't a very good move. Anger is also not good for a mayor/acting mayor. Agree with Camlito, the game could have been good if not for the leaks. I don't know what d_so was ranting about. | ||
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