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TruthBringer
Profile Joined November 2003
United States578 Posts
December 08 2008 03:27 GMT
#2081
Mrbabyhands, please never play mafia here again. Unless you can play fair. But the way you are trying to cover up/rationalize your cheating makes me doubt that you are ready for that.
Carbon FC
MrBabyHands
Profile Joined November 2008
United States72 Posts
December 08 2008 03:35 GMT
#2082
On December 08 2008 12:27 TruthBringer wrote:
Mrbabyhands, please never play mafia here again. Unless you can play fair. But the way you are trying to cover up/rationalize your cheating makes me doubt that you are ready for that.



I play according to the rules.

from reading past games, IRC infiltration was OK

and i even asked ace if it was okay in this game as well.

if it was against the rules, i wouldnt have done it. but it wasnt. so i did.
that azz hole keepin my nuts snug
TruthBringer
Profile Joined November 2003
United States578 Posts
December 08 2008 03:38 GMT
#2083
What about letting your friends from the other forum believe that you weren't in the game and getting them to tell you their roles?
Carbon FC
TruthBringer
Profile Joined November 2003
United States578 Posts
December 08 2008 03:41 GMT
#2084
I can fault you for playing by the rules if the rules are bad, just means I can fault the rulemaker as well.

As far as I am concerned IRC infiltration is not at all what this game is about. And it really destroys the fun and challenging aspect of the game.

Feel free to convince me otherwise.
Carbon FC
inertinept
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Bangladesh1195 Posts
December 08 2008 03:43 GMT
#2085
I just blame the dumbasses to take this game to IRC in the first place.
With a gust of wind, perhaps.
LaXerCannon
Profile Joined October 2008
Canada558 Posts
December 08 2008 03:45 GMT
#2086
Damn, sorry caller for suspecting you ;_;
Just keep swimming
Spike
Profile Joined October 2003
United States1392 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-08 03:59:09
December 08 2008 03:51 GMT
#2087
the act wasn't illegal, so fair game, but it does take a lot of fun out of the game.

when a side has a list of players & roles, the game not only feels tainted but plays less interesting overall.
once it becomes obvious that one side has a full list of roles, there's little intrigue left. everyone just waits for the end to see wtf happened.

people should remember that for future games but there are always people who do dumb shit. BAN FOLCA!

anyway, it's true the yamo family wasn't very guarded or active.
obviously, it didn't help that 5 (our most vocal members mind you) of us were killed on the first day.

On December 08 2008 12:43 inertinept wrote:
I just blame the dumbasses to take this game to IRC in the first place.


we will stop taking it to irc when TL has a better PM system.
sending individual PM's takes too much time.
it's not like we used it very much anyway lol
Ver
Profile Joined October 2008
United States2186 Posts
December 08 2008 03:52 GMT
#2088
Ace I never would've guessed trancestorm haha. Actually I had klassyk down as a potential lucchese mafia for awhile though.


bloodycobbler here's why I went for you early.

bloodycobbler: His posts this game are: saying infundibulum is temp banned and voting for mtf with no reason.

Now contrast this with game 3, where he is a towny and is one of the most active ones, makes somewhat long, well thought out posts, and is a good analyzer. This keeps him from being under too much suspicion even though he was on the votelist with a 40% chance of being mafia from that alone.

FURTHERMORE, he is active, just not posting in our game. During the time that this current game has been going on, he's made 7 other posts in the game 3 thread, and the low frequency was only because the game was virtually dead/over (although he still put time into 1-2 of them). Thus, there is no way he can claim inactivity.

I heavily suspect silent mafia wanting to avoid detection.

---------

This strategy of targeting worked *ok* but far worse than I thought. I have no idea why but a lot of previous big performers just didn't care this game. I mean emp was a vet and he tried running for mayor before roles were passed out then went inactive the rest of the game??

mmmm other random pms:

From: Caller
Subject: hmm funny funny
Date: 11/21/08 23:35
so kleezy comes to me and claims she is dt and that she investigated versatile of all things (veteran). what makes this sketchy is that this came AFTER I TOLD EVERYBODY TO LISTEN TO ME AND NOT USE THEIR ABILITY
anddddddddd.... it was 25 minutes after night started. hmmmmmmmm, im thinking of a word that rhymes with *tapo
---------------------------------

From: Caller
Subject: Re: elder situation
Date: 11/28/08 13:46
ninja4ever is definitely lying im putting a vig on him right now

-----------------------------------------
Original Message:
Delanzia is clear. There is a 5th hidden vote for you.

Ninja4ever never responded to me when I asked him to prove his innocence 2 days ago. Not good.

Can the other (2?) prove their innocence? Who are they? Jeejee is one you said.

From him-

-----------------------------------------
i elder voted for caller

ace wont update it till voting ends

-----------------------------------------
Original Message:
i believe we have a fake elder T_T
-------------------------------------

From: Showtime!
Subject: 5 mafia die tonight
Date: 11/20/08 21:08
those clues were too easy.
-----------------------------------------

From: Caller
Subject: well.
Date: 12/6/08 07:23

------------------
it appears you have played me for a fool. well done sir.

that being said i still have one card up my sleeve that you don't know about ^^
-------

(what was that card? )

I can't really post much else because anything that has/quoting a pm of mine is super long and nobody will read it lol.

The problem with irc infiltration is that it removes virtually all risk. Like we were so suspicious of certain things (showtime being godfather, kweezy being capo, capos posing as dts in general) but the only things that ever happened were mtf running for mayor and artanis roleclaiming vigi. The Yamaguchi were much easier to figure out because they had to expose themselves to get MTF to run for mayor, while the Lucchese could just hide back with all their information and never expose anything. To the end of the game I only had folca, fishball, artanis, myheronoob, and incognito on a list with several others as 'highly likely mafia.'


Other random things:

inertinept roleclaimed medic but was actually a townie lol.

Btw I'm not fully convinced that the blues were just figured out from pure analysis. I know that many gave themselves away (bgs, kh, kweezy, delanzia, lucaswoj, scaramanga, malongo to name a few) but some of them were almost totally inactive and had little to differentiate them from the rest (ninja4ever, softer, spetial, midnight gladius, bluemanrocks). Mind elaborating, because 1 single misshit in day 3 is really odd.

Oh yeah Ace, mind listing the role actions? I'm curious to see who followed orders, and why the hell softer had no bombs planted.
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TruthBringer
Profile Joined November 2003
United States578 Posts
December 08 2008 03:59 GMT
#2089
Ver, this accounts for a lot of blues:



MrBabyHands:
i was only in there one or twice.

i wrote a script that monitored all the members in the teamliquid irc channel. it tried to join all channels that the other members were also in.

ones that were passworded peaked my curiosity. there wasnt much discussed in non-passworded channels. i think yours was y-gorilla or something

i modified the program to keep trying to join the channel, hoping that everybody might leave and i can sneak in.

then it was simply a matter of hiding myself in the channel using user modes (+D i think). it makes you invisible unless you talk.

i only was in there a few times. long enough to piece together who your members were and the few blue roles that were discussed.

i did the same to the townie channel. i dont think theirs was passworded at first. but they also didnt discuss much. just enough for me to get some more blue roles.

i really didnt spend that much time in there tho. i monitored it for a few days at most.

lol. caller actually caught me one time in the town channel before i was able to go invisible, but i talked my way out of it.



Also, Mrbabyhands is friends with the players who came from the other site, and didn't let them know that he was playing this game too, and he found out what their roles were.
Carbon FC
Folca
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
2235 Posts
December 08 2008 04:02 GMT
#2090
On December 08 2008 12:51 Spike wrote:

people should remember that for future games but there are always people who do dumb shit. BAN FOLCA!

Somebodys mad
Dea : one time when he was playing vs the comps he asked me "how do I make that flying unit that makes the other stuff invisible" and I reply "ur playing terran zomg"
Spike
Profile Joined October 2003
United States1392 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-08 04:06:11
December 08 2008 04:04 GMT
#2091
On December 08 2008 13:02 Folca wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2008 12:51 Spike wrote:

people should remember that for future games but there are always people who do dumb shit. BAN FOLCA!

Somebodys mad


why would i be mad at you? i thought you gave your group members up.

i have more reasons to be mad at mrbabyhands (i'm not btw). it was very frustrating though
HeRoS)Pink
Profile Joined July 2005
Canada336 Posts
December 08 2008 04:08 GMT
#2092
I'm sorry caller, I didnt really believed you were mafia , you were just killing the game for me .
On night 2 I pmed you to get me lynched to kill My sibling (trancestorm) told you he wasnt clean , but you never did anything to do what I was asking , so I was just trying to get so much on your nerves that you would eventually kill me (trancestorm at the same time)

Addicted
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
December 08 2008 04:10 GMT
#2093


Detectives:
Kweezy
Role Reveals left: 2/3
Vote Checks left: 1/1

Spetial
Role Reveals left: 2/3
Vote Checks left: 1/1

BlueManRocks
Role Reveals left: 2/3
Vote Checks left: 0/1

KH1031
Role Reveals left: 2/3
Vote Checks left: 1/1

Vigilantes:

rebirthoflegend
kills left: 1/2 - Folca

midnightgladius
kills left:1/2 - SpiralArchitect

lucaswoj
kills left: 1/2 - Empyrean

Veterans lives:
Plexa 2/2
Versatile 0/2
Empyrean 0/2

Hooker infections:
Showtime! (3 nights to live) - inerptinerpt on Night 1 is infected
Scaramanga(3 nights to live) -

Crackbomber bombs:
yubee:
softer: MTF night 1(removed night 2)

Martyr protection:
Truthbringer: Daba
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ver
Profile Joined October 2008
United States2186 Posts
December 08 2008 04:14 GMT
#2094
Ah so yubee was the inactive bomber.

What on earth at truthbringer though. He was supposed to protect Caller from day 1 on.
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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
December 08 2008 04:15 GMT
#2095
On December 08 2008 13:14 Ver wrote:
Ah so yubee was the inactive bomber.

What on earth at truthbringer though. He was supposed to protect Caller from day 1 on.



he did, but I changed my notes to say DABA when he changed to DABA.

Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ver
Profile Joined October 2008
United States2186 Posts
December 08 2008 04:32 GMT
#2096
On December 08 2008 13:15 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2008 13:14 Ver wrote:
Ah so yubee was the inactive bomber.

What on earth at truthbringer though. He was supposed to protect Caller from day 1 on.



he did, but I changed my notes to say DABA when he changed to DABA.



Haha I see. DABA is so random though.

If it's not too much trouble mind posting the medics/capo/bonebreakers too and if possible, where the mafia overlapped?

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ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
December 08 2008 04:34 GMT
#2097
On December 08 2008 13:10 Ace wrote:
Crackbomber bombs:
softer: MTF night 1(removed night 2)


Aww, that would have been hilarious.
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
TruthBringer
Profile Joined November 2003
United States578 Posts
December 08 2008 04:39 GMT
#2098
Caller told me to switch to DABA when he was planning to pass his information on to Elders.
Carbon FC
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
December 08 2008 04:50 GMT
#2099
I never did anything with my Capo power, fyi
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
December 08 2008 05:10 GMT
#2100
Me being on that list you sent ShadowDrgn makes things make so much more sense. Ver was asking me to help him bounce around ideas for a while really early on and then just suddenly stopped responding to PMs.
Uff Da
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