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On November 09 2008 20:33 Scorch wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2008 06:28 Mynock wrote:
Alright people, listen up: I've got information from a detective regarding the last vote tally, and it seems that out of the people who voted for decafchicken, 2 are mafia.
Another person should soon confirm the same message.
Now, we obviously can't be 100% that the information is correct, but I think it's somewhat safe to assume it is, since role-claiming, especially an important role like a DT, would be a pretty stupid move by mafia. That would be Mandalor
ZBiR
Artanis[Xp]
HeRoS)Pink
Amber[LighT]
Lenwe
BloodyC0bbler
Since Mynock is innocent too, his information seems quite reliable. A mafia could have claimed DT towards him, but that's very risky and thus unlikely. So we have a great 2 mafia out of 5 (40%):ZBiR
Artanis[Xp]
HeRoS)Pink
Lenwe
BloodyC0bbler BloodyC0bbler seems to be high on everybody's suspect list for various reasons, so he should be killed soon too.
What doesn't make sense is why the mafia would kill 2 people on that list. Mandalor was making some good posts, but Amber?
How about this scenario:
Mafia claims he's a DT and messages Mynock about the decaf list. Mynock posts the information he received and becomes an obvious target, hopefully drawing medic protection. Mafia takes a risk with the suicide bomber to get some medics.
Now, how much of a risk is claiming to be a detective when you're going to kill the person you told the next night? It's extremely unlikely that Mynock was going to out the informant, and now he's dead. Although they're obviously hoping that Mynock doesn't just PM someone now. If I were mafia, I wouldn't take that chance.
It would make sense that nemy suicided himself as part of a plan and not just as an opportunity, but perhaps the mafia thought the alliteration clues were going to nail him?
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Guys, with this list:
ZBiR
Artanis[Xp]
HeRoS)Pink
Lenwe
BloodyC0bbler
We have 2 mafia, so I suggest we split this list up in a group of 2 and of 3 and allow the DT to check both lists. If a detective has used all his rolechecks already, he should share his information with anyone that he found as innocent so that if a detective dies somehow, that person gets confirmation that the information is correct.
Perhaps that could be sped up if the group of 2 turns out to contain 2 mafia though, since offering a DT for 2 mafia seems like a good thing, especially since there are only 7 left. Hm.
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On November 10 2008 08:09 ShadowDrgn wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2008 20:33 Scorch wrote:On November 09 2008 06:28 Mynock wrote:
Alright people, listen up: I've got information from a detective regarding the last vote tally, and it seems that out of the people who voted for decafchicken, 2 are mafia.
Another person should soon confirm the same message.
Now, we obviously can't be 100% that the information is correct, but I think it's somewhat safe to assume it is, since role-claiming, especially an important role like a DT, would be a pretty stupid move by mafia. That would be Mandalor
ZBiR
Artanis[Xp]
HeRoS)Pink
Amber[LighT]
Lenwe
BloodyC0bbler
Since Mynock is innocent too, his information seems quite reliable. A mafia could have claimed DT towards him, but that's very risky and thus unlikely. So we have a great 2 mafia out of 5 (40%):ZBiR
Artanis[Xp]
HeRoS)Pink
Lenwe
BloodyC0bbler BloodyC0bbler seems to be high on everybody's suspect list for various reasons, so he should be killed soon too. What doesn't make sense is why the mafia would kill 2 people on that list. Mandalor was making some good posts, but Amber? How about this scenario:
Mafia claims he's a DT and messages Mynock about the decaf list. Mynock posts the information he received and becomes an obvious target, hopefully drawing medic protection. Mafia takes a risk with the suicide bomber to get some medics.Now, how much of a risk is claiming to be a detective when you're going to kill the person you told the next night? It's extremely unlikely that Mynock was going to out the informant, and now he's dead. Although they're obviously hoping that Mynock doesn't just PM someone now. If I were mafia, I wouldn't take that chance. It would make sense that nemy suicided himself as part of a plan and not just as an opportunity, but perhaps the mafia thought the alliteration clues were going to nail him?
I agree with this interpretation (we still cant say for sure)
which is why I think we should avoid acting on that list if we have better alternatives
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Additionally, if a Detective claims to have found two mafia on a specific list, allow him to live for a night (or perhaps even two) to force mafia to kill him or we'll gain even more information when we eventually decide to lynch him.
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Third option would actually be lynching one of the two people that the "detective" said were mafia. If he turns up green/blue, we get a free mafia after that.
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On November 10 2008 08:11 fusionsdf wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2008 08:09 ShadowDrgn wrote:On November 09 2008 20:33 Scorch wrote:On November 09 2008 06:28 Mynock wrote:
Alright people, listen up: I've got information from a detective regarding the last vote tally, and it seems that out of the people who voted for decafchicken, 2 are mafia.
Another person should soon confirm the same message.
Now, we obviously can't be 100% that the information is correct, but I think it's somewhat safe to assume it is, since role-claiming, especially an important role like a DT, would be a pretty stupid move by mafia. That would be Mandalor
ZBiR
Artanis[Xp]
HeRoS)Pink
Amber[LighT]
Lenwe
BloodyC0bbler
Since Mynock is innocent too, his information seems quite reliable. A mafia could have claimed DT towards him, but that's very risky and thus unlikely. So we have a great 2 mafia out of 5 (40%):ZBiR
Artanis[Xp]
HeRoS)Pink
Lenwe
BloodyC0bbler BloodyC0bbler seems to be high on everybody's suspect list for various reasons, so he should be killed soon too. What doesn't make sense is why the mafia would kill 2 people on that list. Mandalor was making some good posts, but Amber? How about this scenario:
Mafia claims he's a DT and messages Mynock about the decaf list. Mynock posts the information he received and becomes an obvious target, hopefully drawing medic protection. Mafia takes a risk with the suicide bomber to get some medics.Now, how much of a risk is claiming to be a detective when you're going to kill the person you told the next night? It's extremely unlikely that Mynock was going to out the informant, and now he's dead. Although they're obviously hoping that Mynock doesn't just PM someone now. If I were mafia, I wouldn't take that chance. It would make sense that nemy suicided himself as part of a plan and not just as an opportunity, but perhaps the mafia thought the alliteration clues were going to nail him? I agree with this interpretation (we still cant say for sure) which is why I think we should avoid acting on that list if we have better alternatives
I still think acting on that list is our best chance. What other alternatives do we have? (It's not rhetorical, I'm actually asking for your input). Clue analysis?
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i wonder why midnight gladius is so quiet suddenly...
anyway, based on the clues it looks like the strongest link is Scorch -> burning hand. therefore
## I vote for Scorch
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I vote for BloodyC0bber
edit: bolded so Chuiu can see easier.
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clazziquai why are you voting for bloodyc0bbler ?
what's the clue that points us towards him?
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Canada7170 Posts
Any split list nightmare?
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ZBiR, Artanis[Xp], HeRoS)Pink, Lenwe, BloodyC0bbler Listen :
because you people are being suspected heavily, you should split your votes; since its only 5 of you, i really doubt it will swing the balance to any side so:
imDerek <--- vote for him
ZBiR
Artanis[Xp]
i think you guys should only vote for imDerek, he's rather inactive so whatever.
Heroes)PinkHeRoS)Pink, Lenwe, BloodyC0bbler vote wherever you want. I think the town has not agreed in one top suspect but should we agree on one we should vote on him.
As for my self, i think the strongest suspect is scorch atm; i would tell you to vote for him but this is free will haha
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Before a serious bandwagon is started against me:
Don't make a mistake by lynching me. I'm an innocent townie. I'm very active and try to be constructive and helpful. (Just like in the last game btw, I was townie there too.) There are other suspects who can't say that. Please lynch those before me, and see whether more fire clues come up in the meantime. When in doubt, leave the talkative guy alive and kill the silent one instead, who wouldn't be useful even if he was a townie.
I can offer to vote for someone that noone else votes for, so that detectives can easily check that list without wasting a role check on me. If someone else has an idea how I can clear my name, please tell me.
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Well I can change my vote if you want...
I thought I read a page or two ago that someone said that BloodyC0bbler is the strongest suspect.
Want me to change who to vote for?
Is there a certain vote list or something.
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On November 09 2008 15:25 Chuiu wrote:![[image loading]](http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n99/chuiu/TLday.png) Mandalor was having just as little luck with his opponent and things got worse when it turned into a knife fight. His agile opponent grabbed Mandalor on the shoulder and pulled him close as he plunged the dagger in one side of Mandalors stomach. To finish Mandalor off he pulled the blade all the way to the other end of his stomach.
MidnightGladius' Profile
I think MidnightGladius is this guy.
Can someone check?
Also...I realized that I forgot to vote yesterday.
For now, I vote for MidnightGladius. (11/10/08 10:06 KST)
I change my vote to fanatacist (11/11/08 00:00 KST)
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On November 10 2008 09:56 clazziquai wrote:
I thought I read a page or two ago that someone said that BloodyC0bbler is the strongest suspect.
Want me to change who to vote for?
please list this "clue" you're talking about. He has been pointed by fingers without any reasonable clue.
Btw scorch, what good suspect could you offer atm?
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i like KH1031 clue. However i need townie support. please lets agree on a main suspect and vote for him
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Where in my post do I say I saw a "clue"
I basiaclly said I saw someone sayinb c0bbler was the strongest suspect.
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MidnightGladius would be my top pick. You can find clues against him in all three day posts. And he's suspiciously quiet although he's been a top suspect since Day 1. Here's my analysis on him from Day 2:
On November 07 2008 07:01 Scorch wrote:
I hereby vote to lynch MidnightGladius.
His quote
"It's time to acknowledge the inevitable. Stifle your pride and embrace the glory of change." - Volrath Ishnikar, the Faithless General
fits in with the clues of the first day.
Team Micro Melee: Macro - FE -> Nukes
Could fit the Nefarious Neighbor who uses nukes too.
Always ready to try out the strangest builds conceivable
Could be connected to day 2's Individual.
And I'm sure you could also find something for him being/having a gladius if you want.
As for Day 3 clues, just look up 2 posts 
Good night now. I hope I'll still be alive when I return. Otherwise, good luck town!
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## I change my vote to Midnight Gladius
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I vote to lynch MidnightGladius
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