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Kelsi3r
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Kelsi3r
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Fine to start Tuesday | ||
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Kelsi3r
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Don't like Vivax though. | ||
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Kelsi3r
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What does it say about scott? I don't know But rsoutlin also liked it so I guess I like Alpha and rsoultin at this early stage. Trefl and rayn were posting a lot and having a discussion, i've always been a sucker for activity = town . But ngl I didn't read a lot of the posts and sort of glazed over. That's an ok starting point. | ||
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Kelsi3r
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On June 07 2024 19:27 Trfel wrote: Yeah idk. The more I think about this (plus his previous post where he says he doesn't like Vivax) the more I am suspicious. If Kelsi3r doesn't know what AlphaZero's point about scott31337 means with regards to scott31337's alignment, that should lead to there being less reason to townread AlphaZero (and also anyone else) for this reasoning, no? Of course you don't always have to agree with someone's reasoning to think it makes them look towny, but it certainly helps. Furthermore, I could understand it better if he just said that it made AlphaZero look better, since they were the first to clearly lay out that line of thinking. But to add on that rsoultin looks good, purely for agreeing, when Kelsi3r himself doesn't even know if the point means anything for scott31337's alignment? Seems out of place. And to add, the only person he said he didn't like, Vivax, also commented on this kind of idea. Vivax didn't put scott31337's posts in contrast like AlphaZero did, but he (rightfully) pointed out that one of scott31337's posts in question didn't make a ton of sense. It wasn't exactly the same idea, but it was somewhat similar, and this was (presumably) enough to make AlphaZero say that Vivax looks town. Kelsi3r seems to have ignored this entirely, however? New top suspect, I think. Holy fuck man if you ask a question then wait for an answer before posting this WoT Vivax didn't like Scott's post because of the "vibe" of it. Alpha made a different point about him sort of responding to his own point. I didnt see alpha say vivax was town so i havent commented on it | ||
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Kelsi3r
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On June 07 2024 19:54 Mocsta wrote: Klesi3r Why does the read on rsoultin matter in regards to alphazero? Why does my read matter? Dunno i guess thats up to you | ||
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Kelsi3r
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On June 07 2024 19:59 Mocsta wrote: Hi mate It matters as you referenced rsoultin to bias your read on alphazero as town What's the concern to embellish? What dont you understand? | ||
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Kelsi3r
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On June 07 2024 20:02 Mocsta wrote: How about why isn't rsoultin scum? Is she? Whats the case ? | ||
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Kelsi3r
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On June 07 2024 20:14 Trfel wrote: He mentioned Oatsmaster's vibe, not scott31337's vibe though? Unless you are interpreting this very differently from me. That's what I acknowledged though, while the points raised by AlphaZero and Vivax aren't exactly the same, they are still somewhat similar. That said, you didn't address the main point, which is: why would you townread AlphaZero for saying something you don't necessarily agree with, and especially, why would you townread rsoultin for agreeing with this when you don't agree yourself? Also I'm going to post whenever I feel like, I see no need to wait around. Whats the point of asking a question then ? That interpretation of scotts question is about the vibe of it not about how he responds to himself so its different to alphas. Already answered the main point. | ||
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Kelsi3r
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On June 07 2024 20:11 Mocsta wrote: You have my vote now ##vote: kelsi3r For being intentionally obtuse . This shouldn't be this hard mate I dont get what you want me to do | ||
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Kelsi3r
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On June 07 2024 20:28 Trfel wrote: Kelsi3r, different points. I'm mostly interested in you townreading AlphaZero and rsoultin for something you don't agree with. Unless you have a legit reason for doing this, it doesn't seem like a sensible take to me. I asked about why you didn't acknowledge Vivax's post, which still interests me, but is a bit of a different topic. That said, what's wrong with sharing thoughts on something but also asking if there is an alternative explanation I am missing? Isn't this a common approach? Honestly it feels like you are deflecting by attacking my questioning method instead of actually discussing the main point? You said you answered this but I looked at your filter and I don't see this explained at all? I find it strange i have to explain this again but fine. On my first read through i didnt even clock that scott has responded to himself but alpha caught it and my reaction was like "ah nice catch" , rsoultin had the same reaction as me. Felt like a good early brain sync . Give them an early town nod and move on. | ||
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Kelsi3r
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Kelsi3r
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On June 08 2024 03:24 raynpelikoneet wrote: can you tell who is mafia? if not, then maybe reading is a good talent toi have. fuck man thats a good ass meme I will try and read | ||
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Kelsi3r
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On June 08 2024 03:09 Trfel wrote: Worst List Post of All Time Town Maybe Town rsoultin + Show Spoiler + It's very easy to follow her thought process. raynpelikoneet + Show Spoiler + Raynpelikoneet is generally helpful, but in this game, he's shown original/unique thought, as opposed to just "normal" lines of reasoning. Mocsta + Show Spoiler + This is a dangerous read since I'm having a bit of a hard time understanding what Mocsta is getting at sometimes and I don't have the focus to try and wade through it and actually figure it out, but I still like how Mocsta is very willing to go against the thread sentiment. Mafia can imitate this but I think it's much less likely. Unknown Oatsmaster + Show Spoiler + Oatsmaster's posting has trended towards my expectations for him, as described here. Unfortunately, I have no idea what that means with regards to Oatsmaster's alignment. Congratulations on wasting your time reading this  scott31337 + Show Spoiler + Made you look die_meatbaby sandroba marvellosity + Show Spoiler + I dunno. Really like his posting style, funniest person in the game by far. But I don't actually like this thoughts all that much, which makes me sad  Specifically the post on rsoultin that raynpelikoneet just quoted, I was going to say the same thing. It's very easy to point fingers and say "that person hasn't done anything yet!" when the person in question was only present for the first four and a half pages of the game, when there isn't that much to be done. It's hard for me to understand how marvellosity (of all people) could completely miss this. Feels like taking a cheap shot to discredit someone and make yourself look better.Vivax + Show Spoiler + He hasn't really made much of an impression to me yet, to be honest. AlphaZero + Show Spoiler + Not sure. Opening posts seem quite reasonable, but I have a much harder time following the thinking after. Maybe Mafia Alakaslam + Show Spoiler + On June 08 2024 02:27 Trfel wrote: Uh, maybe I'm falling into the Chezinu trap with Alakaslam, but I actually think this is suspicious? Like, forgetting about the game or going to work or not posting isn't suspicious at all. Absolutely nothing wrong with that. Also, Alakaslam is one of those people who likes to post as mafia, so him not posting isn't a mafia indicator IMO regardless. What is suspicious is the self awareness. Specifically I am looking at a few games ago, it was a Grackaroni game where he invited everyone to the Discord server and Alakaslam was one of the first three people to join. So when three people joined, he thought that was the mafia Discord server and that he was mafia with them, and he said something like "I can't play for a few hours so go ahead and bus me for a while" which IMO doesn't make much sense, who pushes someone for being away for a few hours? But it shows that Alakaslam is exceptionally self-aware/self-conscious as mafia, particularly about activity levels. Unfortunately I can't say that Alakaslam isn't like this as town. I haven't seen anything to indicate that he has this mindset as town, but it's still possible. Regardless though I think it's worth keeping in mind. Kelsi3r + Show Spoiler + I admit that I struggled a bit to understand Kelsi3r and Mocsta's discussion but my initial point still stands. On June 07 2024 19:27 Trfel wrote: Yeah idk. The more I think about this (plus his previous post where he says he doesn't like Vivax) the more I am suspicious. If Kelsi3r doesn't know what AlphaZero's point about scott31337 means with regards to scott31337's alignment, that should lead to there being less reason to townread AlphaZero (and also anyone else) for this reasoning, no? Of course you don't always have to agree with someone's reasoning to think it makes them look towny, but it certainly helps. Furthermore, I could understand it better if he just said that it made AlphaZero look better, since they were the first to clearly lay out that line of thinking. But to add on that rsoultin looks good, purely for agreeing, when Kelsi3r himself doesn't even know if the point means anything for scott31337's alignment? Seems out of place. And to add, the only person he said he didn't like, Vivax, also commented on this kind of idea. Vivax didn't put scott31337's posts in contrast like AlphaZero did, but he (rightfully) pointed out that one of scott31337's posts in question didn't make a ton of sense. It wasn't exactly the same idea, but it was somewhat similar, and this was (presumably) enough to make AlphaZero say that Vivax looks town. Kelsi3r seems to have ignored this entirely, however? New top suspect, I think. Mafia Idk, am I being too stubborn? I legitimately think that Kelsi3r is a valid suspect, and he hasn't done anything to give me pause yet. cant hate the amount of effort you put into this | ||
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Kelsi3r
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dont like oats and then dmb/slam havedone fuck all | ||
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Kelsi3r
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On June 08 2024 04:31 Trfel wrote: @Alakaslam, it looks like you are posting as you catch up, but just in case that isn't true, here is the post you said you wanted to see. I also bring this up to make a point about Kelsi3r. Raynpelikoneet does a very nice job of explaining how he can think someone is town due a read he doesn't agree with. My point though, is, see how it requires a meaningful explanation? Like without the explanation, it doesn't make sense. I can kinda understand Kelsi3r townreading AlphaZero for his scott31337 post, but I really can't understand townreading rsoultin for being interested in AlphaZero's scott31337 post. If he had an explanation that made it make sense I'd consider it, but he doesn't, his explanation is pretty weak imo, and not at all insightful. It's not that what Kelsi3r did is inherently scummy, it's that the way he went about it doesn't make sense. you need to drop this shit | ||
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Kelsi3r
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On June 08 2024 04:24 Trfel wrote: No clue. Oatsmaster always confuses me. There are two reasons to lynch Kelsi3r though. You disagreed with the first one, whatever, but how about how he only has four town lean ish things and no suspects and has been around but hasn't worked to change that? keep lying dude | ||
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