Sweet Summer Mafia - Page 8

On June 11 2024 03:36 Koshi wrote:
Holy fuck what the fuck

On June 11 2024 04:09 sandroba wrote:
I mean koshi + rayn makes too much sense. The random town reads, the weird interactions, it all fits! I think trfel is right about dmb being the third as well.

On June 11 2024 04:54 Trfel wrote:
Was trying to analyze die_meatbaby's last game as mafia to compare it to this game but it was hard to make a clear analysis. There weren't individual posts that matched, more of overall trends.

The key though is, die_meatbaby doesn't really know what to do as mafia. She was mafia in a game that was aborted, and then her first "full" game as mafia was Winter Warfare Mafia, about six months ago, which is the game I was referring to. In this game, she went on a huge crusade about Palmar being mafia, and hid behind emotional responses (mostly anger). This is why I say that she doesn't know how to play as scum, because she didn't play the game "normally," just focused on one scumread for literally the entire game.

This game, it's different. Let's assume for the moment that die_meatbaby is indeed mafia here. She can't play the same way she did as last game, because that could only work once. In other words, can't use emotion to cover up not playing, can't hide behind one single scumread the whole game. So what can she do?

The answer is the excuses for inactivity/not scumhunting (see here if you want to know what I am talking about). That's an excuse more frequently than every eight posts. This is absolutely ridiculous, and I am really struggling to see how this could come from town.

Furthermore, she's consistently avoided responding to the reasons people are bringing up to scumread her. Just posting about something else (usually how she's not able to play). This makes me think that the reasons are accurate, and she has no explanation.

Are there any reasons to not lynch die_meatbaby? I'm trying to think of ways this could be wrong, and sometimes I have doubts, but never any reasons to actually townread her. If she is actually town and is playing like this (or rather, not playing like this), I don't see how anyone could ever realistically figure out that she is town. I'll keep thinking about it, but if this is true, there's a huge risk if we let die_meatbaby live, and the issue just isn't going to go away.

On June 11 2024 05:06 Koshi wrote:
Ok.

##unvote
##vote Sandroba

People who think I am town.
I don't think it is smart to lynch Vivax.
Sandroba is a way better placeholder.

On June 11 2024 05:10 sandroba wrote:

I still think you are mafia. But I also think dmb is mafia. And I think trfel's case on dmb has more pull.

On June 11 2024 05:09 scott31337 wrote:


I did a quick read and search of her filter on some of what you said in the Winter game. You were part of that game too I noticed.

One of the things I also wanted to look at is searching for scum names (Chez and rayn) - she has almost zero interaction with the other mafia in the thread. It's almost always with other townies.

Now I want to see if the same is true here.

On June 11 2024 06:17 Oatsmaster wrote:
@scott why you ninja voting Sandro?

On June 11 2024 06:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:

scott why did you feel the need to say the underlined part?
Also who were those people you were talking about there?

On June 11 2024 06:44 Trfel wrote:
Scott31337, I believe you are seriously scum-siding right now. You are literally voting with the three most suspicious people in the game IMO.

Just saying, maybe you should reconsider.

On June 11 2024 14:46 Trfel wrote:
Maybe try reading a little? Just a little?

I'm actually serious, if we are able to lynch scott31337 here and keep sandroba alive, I think that's absolutely worth doing.

On June 11 2024 14:47 Oatsmaster wrote:

Why do you want to keep Sandro alive so much actually? He’s been utterly useless to town

On June 11 2024 15:22 Mocsta wrote:
11 players left. 8t, 3m

Slam is likely afk on Vivax, so need to assume this is a 10player vote, 7t, 3m (due to out-in-open afk request)

Majority is 6,4 or as sandroba would be first to 5

can only afford 1 townie to vote with scum if 3m on a wagon; which seems impossible with oats having an impasse with sandroba.

this really feels like day 5 on a day 2

its true. this is deflating and feels over trfel

On June 11 2024 15:40 Koshi wrote:

He is famous for being low activity as mafia? Then why are we not lynching him. I only remember 2 towngames and he was wayyyyyyy more active there. It's 90% of why I am voting him.

On June 11 2024 16:08 Koshi wrote:
I almost never type in all caps

THANK YOU OATSMASTER FOR EXPLAINIKG EXACTLY WHERE I AM IN THIS GAME IN A CALM AND RESPECTFUL WAY.

AZ, Tfrel and Mocsta should reread or really consider that conversation as a goldmine inside my view on this game. He is almost exactly at the place I am.

On June 11 2024 16:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:

yes literally fucking this!!!!

why the hell does he even need to make that point of oats beingn mafia with rsoultin in the first place if he doesnt think it is true?????? i mean like if you casually post along the thread it is fine but he was not casually posting along the thread, he was doing a catch up which is basically "these points i find important when i am reading along the thread".

why is it important oats can be mafia with rsoultin if he doesnt think oats is mafia in the first place??????

On June 11 2024 16:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
AZ is deliberately misrepresenting this mason thing.

On June 11 2024 16:33 Koshi wrote:
Sandroba/DMB/+1

Can we all agree on this? Before we look for the third?

On June 11 2024 16:43 Koshi wrote:
I am willing to vote dmb.
Not rayn. Not yet.

On June 11 2024 17:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am not voting anyone outside of the pool of:
sandroba.

Lynch me if you want.

On June 11 2024 17:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:

There is no need for any deceit. There is only need for not to vote for sandroba.
Mocsta didn't do shit all, and when people started talking about lynching me he just rolled with it.
AZ became dumb after being smart on D1.
Trfel and Vivax are town. Idk what Vivax actually is doing and Trfel is just too tunneled to objectively look at any argument at all in the game, so he is lost cause.

On June 11 2024 16:01 AlphaZero wrote:


If that is true he should be voting into rayn/dmb not sandro lmao. Nice pickup Moc.

On June 11 2024 23:05 sandroba wrote:
I'll vote any of rayn/dmb/koshi, whoever of these has the most support behind I'm game.

On June 11 2024 23:34 Mocsta wrote:
I think the best way to unite town is to have 2 wagons to gauge buy in and then merge into one wagon (somehow...)

I will join my town reads if it leads to majority

My town reads are
Trfel
Oats
Sandroba
Az
Vivax

And I'm willing to work with scott

On June 11 2024 18:17 Vivax wrote:


I might come around.
I just really dislike having sandro as mafia early because he‘s n1 or n2 kill material.

On June 11 2024 18:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Why would anyone ever kill sandroba in this game N2 with the material he has produced?

On June 11 2024 18:35 Koshi wrote:
Oats snippets on sandroba are good as well.

Sandroba voting me and then voting off me to vote dmb and go away was also very weird. He had me as 100% mafia, and then voted off me without trying to talk to me even though I reaching out. But also not saying why dmb was a better lynch than I was.

It was pretty smart actually now that I think of it from mafia perspective because it helped causing this division between the town parties.

On June 11 2024 22:34 Oatsmaster wrote:
Scott come back pls bby

On June 11 2024 22:56 sandroba wrote:

You are either mafia or just insanely biased. Not sure what is more egregious, this post or Koshi coming in and calling it "good points".

On June 11 2024 23:05 sandroba wrote:
I'll vote any of rayn/dmb/koshi, whoever of these has the most support behind I'm game.

On June 11 2024 23:14 sandroba wrote:
I mean I suppose dmb is not 100% to be scum, just very likely. If I'm wrong about any of these I think the remaining has to be within Oats/AZ/scott? But they all have done things that make it hard to believe they are mafia. I guess oats and AZ could pull it off if they are just next level scum.

On June 09 2024 06:10 die_meatbaby wrote:

Sorry, I'll have more time tomorrow and will play properly.
Besides, I'm not so happy with both wagons.

On June 10 2024 11:00 die_meatbaby wrote:
oh shit my nap was too long
if I die
sandro, az, vivax maybe mafia

On June 10 2024 11:08 die_meatbaby wrote:
I don´t understand mafia here right now. If somebody claims blue... why do they not kill mocstar.
Marv is always strong Town. But mafia shouldn´t be that scared of him on the n1

On June 10 2024 11:30 die_meatbaby wrote:

Good point
But in the last game i played (or maybe we two played..) we had the most activ mafia dp ever. Somebody could try that out and most of vixax post feel einher off topic or kinda usless

On June 10 2024 11:34 die_meatbaby wrote:

I have the next 2 days off so I will have a lot off time to invest to find out this pussy mafia who are obv. more scared of marv then killing jailkeeper (if the claim is true)

On June 10 2024 21:06 die_meatbaby wrote:
rsoultin/koshi
Either rsoultin or koshi have not given me reasons to see them as mafia. Koshi is really activ, trying to solve the game here. He has a lot of townreads but he plays still like a Townkoshi would.

Scott



I think you are right also in older games from he looked scummy in his town games.

Trfl

I thought the same thing kinda suspicious, but I think it was nothing.
Trfls Filter wouldn´t make so much sense when he would be mafia. I could not see with who he would be togther in a team.
For right now I see him as a Townie

Sandroba
https://tl.net/forum/mafia/625928-sweet-summer-mafia?user=sandroba
this is 2 page filter.
he comes in the game starts with giving town reads on trfl, rayn, az, kelshier.
far too early in the game to make so many reads.Then hitting a bit on scott and just going offline for ever. For me this filter is a red flag but maybe things change when he would start to play here again.

IF I am corect with sandro mafia then guys look at this shit and you can call me paranoid but thats something now:
Mocsta
sandro making a few townreads on the people who were activ in the begining but not on mocsta he didn´t get a read


looks like it's such a safe read that it shouldn't be labeled as town right away so as not to stand out directly as teammates
then the next posts felt to me like playing togther


the sandro we never saw sandro again...
what happend was

Mocasta playing normal and calling out that he is jailkeeper and he will save oats n1

I would just love to understand why he didn't die on the first night. If someone blue called you kill them that night as mafia. Why are you still alive? What did Marv do to get himself killed and not the PR?
Are you really blue???? Are you really fucking Town? Or are you playing with sandro?

and why jail oats anyway?
if you are town why are you saving oats. Why is he so Town to you. Why not Koshi, marv people who are strong town and often die early. Why oats?

Or have I already found the team here?

this hole thing fucks my head. Either you fuck with me or the mafia, because it doesn´t make sense to me!

also in the same time i think
Vivax
I think I already explained enough why I think he mafia. But this read could change again.
He is hell of paranoid but in RL right now not in the game, maybe this leads to a false read but when he is playing like this he is def. mafia in my eyes. Then I have the question again why is oats in this involved if my currents reads would be correct

or is oats red and vivax green? I don´t thinks so oats looking more townisch then vivax. I am still unsure how read oats.

AZ
I don´t have a good feeling with him. Feels like he wann kinda lead Town somewhere, but not in a way that is too conspicuous. Still try to figure out if this is DP or Palmar. But I think it´s someone who I have played with already. No read on him right now

Rayn
In every fucking game we have played I have read him wrong. He was town i thought mafia and the other way around. I am still to fucking unsure what to think of him right now. In my head kinda scummy so lets say more townisch because I am always wrong with my read on him.

Slam
to less activ to make a read. It´s anyways always hard to read slam but when he only appears minutes before or after somebody died then I can really not read him


AND YOU ALL CAN CALL ME FUCKING PARANOID FOR THIS SANDRO/ MOCSTAR SHIT BUT I THINK THERE'S SOME SHIT GOING ON BETWEEN THE TWO OF THEM

On June 10 2024 21:37 die_meatbaby wrote:

sandro+mocstar+ xxx
And I will fucking find out if you are the xxx

On June 11 2024 06:18 die_meatbaby wrote:
First of all nice that sandroba started to play again, but your Comeback posts are not what makes me feel better about you.
I still believe it's you and mocstar together + maybe Vivax. First time that I am not a 100 % sure about vivax alignment.
##Unvote
##Vote: Sandroba

On June 12 2024 01:08 die_meatbaby wrote:


How the fuck do I end up beeing togther with sandroba?
I made the case about sandro and mocstar and I still believe that this two are fucking us here together!!

Vivax thinks I am scum because of dumb telling and less aggressiv playing. Dt was one of the reasons I got misslynched last time. And Vivax told me to not be so toxic here and now I am mafia because I am not as toxic as usual. The actuall fuck is this here?
I am mafia because of beeing a lot afk or small filter. I would be way more excited to play as mafia not always Town.
It sucks to be Town. I am never getting NK because I am a save misslynch for mafia. And it works for mafia every fucking game again. Last time nofuckingbody believed me that DP is that fucking crazy insane to shoot his afk mafia. I got misslynched because of my "stupid" but true theoris. And now you all turning again against me. I believe its s and m and now you fuckers are thinking I am with one of my most believed scumread togther.

On June 12 2024 01:31 Mocsta wrote:
Anyways dmb treat me as blue macosta

Is vivax still your scum read,?

As in you both are calling each other scum?