Sweet Summer Mafia - Page 5

On June 08 2024 12:58 Mocsta wrote:
awww man, i dont even understand why im not fitting in
woe is me

i haven't engaged with vivax because i find his playstyle really polarising which is not conducive to scumhunting.. to be fair with vivax i really need other people to make cases that i can then internalise

scott thats a fair call. i do have on my agenda to review now that he has more content which is what i was waiting for..
i was left underwhelmed with his posts when i caught up but did get a spider sense tingle from it. (i.e. underwhelmed beucase of stringing together BS)

the player that makes me uncomfortable in the pit of my stomach is AZ, so hes my top scum read.. again. i dont have it as an agenda to push today for reasons i have already stated and are unchanged.

will do a deep dive review on scott later today and i want to re-read sandroba

people i am not open to lynching today are:
oats, trfel, rsoultin, rayn, marv..

i didnt include az as if there was a wagon i would be all over that.

On June 08 2024 18:33 Mocsta wrote:
all can. It's a personality driven thing my dude

On June 08 2024 18:28 Mocsta wrote:
None of those apply to me

Ignoring mason neighbour thing since he has since fully dropped it

Rest of filter looks like active hunting to me

I don't care he buddies to me. As town or Mafia it fits how the thread has shaped.

I think he pulled up some interesting posts. He has no such limited cred can't start a wagon either so that's pretty much max output he can do as a townie.

Would he do that as mafia? I genuinely don't think so.

On June 08 2024 19:05 Mocsta wrote:
you know there was a post before you said.. it works both ways.. scum marv is too smart to do that as well

same with the fit in comment.. scum mocsta definitely wouldnt throw that out there

i hear what you are saying, doesnt change both need to fit in. for me the weighting is a bit stronger cos i have a big ego

On June 08 2024 19:16 Mocsta wrote:
different type of dominance trait. regardless. i dont think this helps solve the game

if you are genuinely curious can talk about it more post game.

On June 08 2024 19:33 Trfel wrote:
Thanks for taking the time. I guess I didn't even see a ton of Oatsmaster bringing up the same things, I can try and look again though.

@marvellosity, I think Mocsta is easier to read than several other players this game due to a combination of activity and unique thoughts. He's been present and involved and has been very willing to provide his own take, which often differs from that of everyone else and the thread consensus. I think this gives a lot of extra information with which we can figure out his alignment more easily.

Also, someone asked about die_meatbaby's meta, I'm far from an expert but I would say her play matches my expectations close enough. That doesn't mean she is town or mafia necessarily, but this is the kind of play I was expecting. With the Vivax focus, paranoia of influential players, hesitance to commit to early reads, etc.

Kinda confused about what these last 2-3 pages were about but I'm too lazy/sleepy to go to my computer and actually figure it out, oh well Too lazy to visit the links Mocsta brought up about scott31337, can someone tell me if it makes sense or not?

Happy to talk about most anything, but prefer to talk about Kelsi3r or Oatsmaster.

On June 08 2024 19:56 AlphaZero wrote:
Couple of thoughts after Mocsta interactions

- it seems to me like he is drawing conclusions and then making really terrible justifications for them rather than acting with a curious and open mind to determine alignments

- it seems to me he is cautious and almost apologetic when pushing me, despite being his 2nd? Largest scum read. Tracks as mafia lynching town, not as town who thinks they have got a lead on mafia.

- his reasoning and justifications are awful and nonsensical.

the problem I am having is I do t know why he would play like this as either alignment.

- option 1 he is tying himself up into knots because he is pushing mafia agenda

-option 2 he is town and he legitimately thinks these things.

I view option 1 more likely through my lens of how the game should be played, and what is reasonable to expect from town and mafia.

It seems trfel thinks the other option would be more likely.

I’d just like to get some more thoughts itt about this.

On June 08 2024 19:58 marvellosity wrote:

I think this is a nigh on perfect summary. Well done

On June 08 2024 20:00 Oatsmaster wrote:

It’s not that he’s calling you town specifically. It’s just a complete nonsensical train of thought from a town player to open the way vivax did and then try to appear random and “townie” by throwing out random townreads

On June 08 2024 20:03 Trfel wrote:
Maybe I'm being stupid but what I meant was more that Mocsta has provided more information with which to get a read on him, one way or another. As in, there shouldn't be many null reads on Mocsta imo, the information is there, just up to people to interpret it. I feel like his posting is polarizing, depending on how you interpret it it is solidly town or solidly mafia, but just hard to get a null interpretation.

On June 08 2024 20:13 Oatsmaster wrote:

Stop stealing my ideas

On June 08 2024 08:38 Mocsta wrote:
aawwwwww

Mate. I probably shouldn't have posted my first post
Game started at 10 for me and earliest chance I had to read was 4 sitting on plane

In short hectic mad day and I was so excited to make intro post for first time.in maybe 6years.. I see the length of the game and was like wtf I dont have time.to do this before take.off and lose reception.

Quickly skim and rsoultin and trfel.poats were the ones where my mind just disconnected from. Could not engage

So put it out there to just have out it out there

I wouldn't say the post content was forced because it's how I felt at that moment, although the sentiment that I needed to post something , yes was forced

It's also part of why I retracted once I landed and read thoroughly

On June 08 2024 20:18 marvellosity wrote:

This is his explanation for the stuff I picked up on with regards to your early posting.

I understand that people make mistakes (especially early) but do I buy this? Is it the right sort of mistake? Is it the sort of mistake town makes?

It’s not carelessness, it’s a characterisation of your posts as forced/contrived.

It’s difficult tbh.

On June 08 2024 20:30 AlphaZero wrote:


If this is the case Rso is an order of magnitude more likely than Rayn in a Scott/mocsta/ xxx world

On June 08 2024 20:34 Trfel wrote:
Hmm, honestly I didn't view this as a mistake. Maybe that's my error. But a lot of people expressed a similar sentiment regarding my early posting, unless I am missing something I don't think his claim itself was unreasonable at all.

There is the part where he wasn't able to back it up with evidence upon request. It's a little strange, heck I bet I could go into my filter and fabricate the explanation in question, but I actually think it's maybe more likely to come from town. Possibilities:
- Mocsta is town, and due to a few combined factors (plane flight/setting change, me posting more and him getting a more meaningful read on me which quite possibly colors his perception of previous posts), didn't read the earlier posts the same way
- Mocsta is mafia, and instead of forcing an explanation, gave it up. Like, if it was me and I was mafia there, I'm 10000% giving a forced explanation there, even if I can't remember what I was initially thinking I'm gonna make something up. I would never back down there. Maybe Mocsta is just a different player from me but I don't actually see the mafia motivation for this? The claim is too vague and easy to provide fake reasoning for, honestly if he's mafia I think he took a much harder route by backing down from it.

On June 08 2024 20:36 AlphaZero wrote:


You can add slam in there too somewhere I think.

On June 08 2024 20:39 Trfel wrote:
Raynpelikoneet, rsoultin, sandroba, maybe even AlphaZero?

And sure, Mocsta said it was a mistake, but I disagree

I think it's more likely that his perspective changed, causing him to interpret the same posts in a different way. I mean if you want to call that a mistake then sure, I wouldn't say that though.

On June 08 2024 20:50 AlphaZero wrote:


Why do you sound disappointed by that?