EPTOn June 08 2024 11:02 Trfel wrote:
I don't have much to discuss about AlphaZero. I kinda think [b]they]/b] are town but it's a weak read.
I don't have much to discuss about AlphaZero. I kinda think [b]they]/b] are town but it's a weak read.
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to me: i assume scum received whisper and did not use - main reason being, either mason that is town i believe should have claimed to close out loop with scott situation. by now, there is sufficient reactions / discussion in place that this would be beneficial to town. i have to assume all town would recognise that. does this point out anything about the scum team? perhaps that upper tier / mechanic focused player is part of it? | ||
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On June 08 2024 12:23 Oatsmaster wrote: awww man, i dont even understand why im not fitting in Mocsta has been bad so far but I don’t think it makes him scum. One thing I found particularly interesting is that he hasn’t engaged with Scott or vivax at all in his filter  woe is me i haven't engaged with vivax because i find his playstyle really polarising which is not conducive to scumhunting.. to be fair with vivax i really need other people to make cases that i can then internalise scott thats a fair call. i do have on my agenda to review now that he has more content which is what i was waiting for.. i was left underwhelmed with his posts when i caught up but did get a spider sense tingle from it. (i.e. underwhelmed beucase of stringing together BS) the player that makes me uncomfortable in the pit of my stomach is AZ, so hes my top scum read.. again. i dont have it as an agenda to push today for reasons i have already stated and are unchanged. will do a deep dive review on scott later today and i want to re-read sandroba people i am not open to lynching today are: oats, trfel, rsoultin, rayn, marv.. i didnt include az as if there was a wagon i would be all over that. | ||
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On June 08 2024 12:54 Oatsmaster wrote: More so those were two pretty significant things that have happened in the game that mocsta seems to have missed hey mate, i dont understand yes havent posted to scott, however, my opinion on what happened has been stated numerous times. vivax though, i have no idea what you could be referring to that was significant? | ||
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On June 08 2024 13:21 Oatsmaster wrote: You literally say that your top scum read is az and a significant part of that I would reckon to be from the way hes handled vivax no? no? it was how he handled scott and then his reaction to me which i think is over the top for someone that presented as solid player the way he withholds information as well, could be townie/scummy, but i find it done in a passive agressive way which i associated more likely to be scummy again. unless a wagon is forming i dont want to build a case against az. im moreso responding to the nature of this question, and i didnt even realise he had a scum read on vivax to be fair i thought it was scott and me. | ||
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On June 08 2024 13:30 Oatsmaster wrote: because there has been resistance so it just clouds discussion when a few people were yet to post i.e. put into monitor basket.Withholds information how? Idk why people (trfel&mocsta) don’t wanna talk about az so weird I would summarise AZ style of play as pulling up inconsistencies and letting others draw conclusions. it is the missing conclusion that i refer to as withhold.. im not talking about withholding reads, those have been aired yet are all over the place and everything is contingent on something else which i associate as a scum thing to do. scott, trfel, Like one thing I cannot get past is that AZ is defending Kelsier as if he is a town-read, yet calls him "very null" to the point that anyone attacking is super sus.. I just struggle to see town being this hedged. On June 08 2024 06:38 AlphaZero wrote: Literally the only thing about kelsier in his filter is:Kelsier: anyone with a strong opinion here is sus. Very null. On June 07 2024 21:36 AlphaZero wrote: I find it funny that mocsta called me out for needlessly nitpicking before nitpicking everything about kelsier's entry post that wasn't bad at all. On June 08 2024 07:06 AlphaZero wrote: Rso can you explain to me why Kellsier seems to be scum read by everyone. Am I missing something here? | ||
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On June 08 2024 14:19 AlphaZero wrote: less patronizingWhat changed here? if this was real life, we would be handling this very differently - no, i dont mean with fists. you wouldnt be talking to me like you had been, leave it as that. | ||
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az started strong so i could also be guilty of holding az to a higher expectation; yet i reckon rest of filter is a mess (with a reluctant admission  that there is some good stuff too).. like in my mind, if i removed the red flag posts out of his filter, it would be quite consistent actually so im slowly slowly reducing my expectation of az to betaone again a reason why im not going balls to the wall i still need to re look into scotts filter. will bbl | ||
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On June 08 2024 15:37 Trfel wrote: But that doesn't make sense wow.. new talk ey urban dictionary = true bro chill.. or more likely.. to be clear.. which does make sense | ||
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.your post #715 on oats I don't really get it I had a read of oats filter and didn't see the same things you raised. His filter is consistent focus and attitude/tone. He's kept prodding the same things regardless of buy in, which yes can be scummy. Yet. He's updating the read as the conviction increases which I find townie. There was a post early game about you and Ryan that stuck out to me and made me wonder about a scum duo of rayn and oats but that's really clutching at straws and nothing I intend to pursue. | ||
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Dmb filter is small and concise yet I find I have to really concentrate to not gloss over it.. it's like there is a focus/permission to concentrate on vivax and by extension oats and rest is playful interaction with no purpose that I can identify. May also fit into theory of not wanting to mason although that's not an argument as very hypothetical. Does dmb fit into town meta? I really can't be armed to dig through past games. Which then also is a point of curiosity that dmb made a big deal to requests Scotts past game history.. a glimpse of active and productive townie yet rest of filter doesn't align with that gusto | ||
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On June 08 2024 08:32 scott31337 wrote: Not you. Who do you want to lynch today Mocsta? Have read your filter and like how you picked yourself up from all the mason/neighbour discussion in particular examining multiple players which from your situation I assume.tonbe more town likely than mafia. I'm slightly concerned kelsi3r could be a bad townie vote > mafia.. just because the way the wagon is building is a bit odd.. limited buy in (even though majority so far) and also no resistance.. it's possible wagons will take off in final two hours so meh?? | ||
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On June 08 2024 17:43 marvellosity wrote: well you've been building that since yesterdayThe push-but I’m not going to push from Mocsta gives me the ick We are both here. Let's chat My head space has been outputted in past couple posts. Where do we go from here? Btw. I believe people do change however you used to read me pretty good and go against grain to back me. I'm not scum calling you or being butthurt. More confused than anything hopefully chat helps that both ways. | ||
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Funny how objective reality distorts through each user! Copy copy I know what Scott asked me and that I didn't answer directly If I had mayor vote. I would drop AZ If I could lead a wagon I would consider kelsier/dmb If I wanted to take a gamble I would drop Rayn. I have to read sandroba / slam although I haven't been concerned by them to date I have not seen anything else I want to sheep at this point although recognize my current cred means I need to 🐑 | ||
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On June 08 2024 18:01 AlphaZero wrote: Well I mean that's predictable given me todayIt's probably mocsta/scott/xxx someone like vivax or slam What if it wasn't me? Would Scott/vivax/slam still be your group? | ||
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.that's a disappointing response form you. I extended an olive branch too | ||
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On June 08 2024 18:15 marvellosity wrote: nah not a dick, Cos I get what you are askingOh yeah. That vote from way earlier d1? I mean he reason it’s a disappointing response from me is because reading so many of your posts, that doesn’t seem to be the main driver for you. What I’m getting at is if your vote wasn’t there it would be really unclear what you were doing. And as for olive branch, I’m not being a dick am I? I just meant I put my neck out with that list in my opinion Not Cos of the names but how it's said and knowingly contradicts some stuff Look my dilemma.is simple as stated I don't see AZ being bandwagons this cycle..I'm only outting his name out as a response to others. I'm Not initiating In my book that's significant difference and makes it half ok. Az response has been different to what I thought. I assumed he would make a case so I'm a bit it taken back by it almost seems deflated Yes kelsier is early on and I don't view it as a bad lunch Maybe it's a higher chance of bad townie than mafia and I'm not even sure gives that much info I think other options are just a lottery draw. So if wagons form when I'm asleep I'm all good with kelsier.. that's about it really? | ||
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On June 08 2024 18:17 AlphaZero wrote: Not sure, I don't really work with teams much of the time. Just work on what is individually scummy and then if the team makes sense that's bonus points. I think it's possible rso is mafia for example, but I wouldn't make a wager that this was the case. Same with rayn. I think Scott and yourself are a pairing that makes sense if I was going to make associative cases. And you are both in the poe if I was going to eliminate the townie looking players. If one of you was town though I would bet you were town over Scott hands down. That's totally reasonable Thanks for responding in clarity | ||
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