Sweet Summer Mafia - Page 20

On June 14 2024 16:27 Trfel wrote:
Not my point though. I'm saying that I don't understand how you could have made these posts at this time. You're planning out a future that just isn't possible from a town perspective.

On June 14 2024 16:27 AlphaZero wrote:
build the DMB case properly then Koshi. If you are so convinced she is mafia then that is the best way to get others on board.

Just make a case that is undeniable.

Instead of just saying it.

On June 14 2024 16:30 Trfel wrote:
Sure, if you conveniently ignore the fact that mafia would just night kill you.

It makes me wonder if you are mafia and you came up with the people you wanted to push and then this was natural from your mindset, since mafia don't really have to worry about getting shot? You can't seriously tell me you are town and expected to lynch three mafia in a row without getting shot first?

On June 14 2024 16:32 AlphaZero wrote:
But he would probably know it was too dangerous to do that.

On June 14 2024 16:33 AlphaZero wrote:
What happened to the DMB push?

I ask you to make a case if you want me to consider her properly and then you call rayn mafia.

Literally half a page after calling for rayn to understand your DMB push.

On June 14 2024 16:33 AlphaZero wrote:


That wasn;t blue hunting. He wanted him to claim outright. You think that is alignment indicative?

On June 14 2024 16:34 AlphaZero wrote:


You should probably post something more compelling that whatever it is you are doing then.

On June 14 2024 17:12 AlphaZero wrote:
on the first note: You know what trfel, I may be bad here, but I actually feel her read progressions are natural.

on the second note: It makes sense to me that her first thought is that mocsta is red, presumably because she is thinking that he should be dead if he is town and blue.

third note: I don't think that is alignment indicative.

Fourth note: Meh. I haven't really found town DMB to be that quick to shift perspective.

Honestly, my thoughts are that this case is not really that convincing, but I tend to town read DMB when I am town, even when she is mafia.

On June 14 2024 17:32 Trfel wrote:
I do think die_meatbaby is a little more likely mafia than scott31337 but I'm not very confident in that difference.

But I think lynching die_meatbaby has more support than lynching scott31337?

On June 14 2024 17:47 Trfel wrote:
Sorry I forgot you wanted a town case on Mocsta.

Not really my thing. But here goes:

1. Easy to work with/talk to
Mocsta has been one of the easiest players to work with this game. He's very clear about where his thoughts are coming from, is willing to consider different angles, and readily gives feedback on other peoples' ideas.
2. Lots of independent analysis
Mocsta has done plenty of analysis here. Say what you want about the quality, but to me it shows that he is working to figure things out. I think he's made about as many analysis posts as anyone else.
3. Original thoughts
Mocsta often comes up with original thoughts that haven't been said by anyone else. This seems much more likely to come from someone who is thinking critically and trying to work things out.

I'm trying to understand why you two are so suspicious of each other. It felt like we were working together and seeing it so similarly day 2, and while we were wrong that day, that's not just something I throw away easily. See me working with Mocsta on his reasons for scumreading you, for example.

Maybe you're right on Mocsta. But if you are not, here is my guess as to why:

I think your expectations of Mocsta may be too high. He produces a lot of content and the scum hunting drive is clearly there. That said, I don't think his logic is on the same level as (for example) raynpelikoneet, marvellosity, Holyflare, people like that. Mocsta has his own, unique way of thinking about things, and while I think that's an asset, I think it may be throwing you off. I think you may be setting your expectations for Mocsta based on the amount of analysis he posts and the types of things he looks into, but then you hold him to a similar standard of logic and reasoning and that's just not the way he thinks and the result is that he seems scummy.

Could be wrong but that's my two cents.

On June 14 2024 18:33 AlphaZero wrote:


The thing that really sucks about this is that I can’t even just put it down to you being bad, cause clearly I’m doing something wrong in establishing my innocence.

I guess I can empathise with palmar from last game.

On June 14 2024 20:35 die_meatbaby wrote:
Where are you guys talk to me!!!!

On June 14 2024 20:40 die_meatbaby wrote:

I have hard times to read rayn and slam.
Do you think its possible thats one of them?

On June 14 2024 20:44 die_meatbaby wrote:

Why am I mafia. Why do you believe this scumteam everytime for a dmb misslynch if you are town

On June 14 2024 20:55 die_meatbaby wrote:


then tell me why I am not townie.
I made the first case on sandroba before other people made a real case on him.
You really think that my mafia game would be this good that I would start with a sandro/mocstar case???