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On June 14 2024 16:27 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2024 16:24 Koshi wrote:On June 14 2024 16:22 Trfel wrote:@Koshi: On June 09 2024 16:40 Koshi wrote:
Yeah we lynch sandroba->Mocsta (->Koshi) -> marv On June 09 2024 17:00 Koshi wrote:
I am 100% convinced you are mafia. But I will lynch you last because your filter is huge.
Sandroba and Mocsta are both mafia and I think we agree on that. On June 09 2024 17:00 Koshi wrote:
So we can lynch them first and then battle it out. This is just a random thing I thought of a while ago, but can you explain this? Let's imagine for a moment that you have transcended the bounds of possibility and were right on all these reads. How then, do you presume to lynch mafia!sandroba and mafia!Mocsta and go into a showdown with mafia!marvellosity, after you called out the entire mafia team three days previously, and not somehow get night killed along the way? Or is this whole thing just fake? Exavtly. I already said it once. If it is Mocsta why am I not dead yet. Then rayn just insulted everybod and their mothers iirc. But it isnt Mocsta. It is sandroba dmb and a mystery man Not my point though. I'm saying that I don't understand how you could have made these posts at this time. You're planning out a future that just isn't possible from a town perspective.
Hmmm? Sure is possible. I think 3 people are mafia, I think who is the easiest to kill first, then repeat 2 times.
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On June 14 2024 16:27 AlphaZero wrote:
build the DMB case properly then Koshi. If you are so convinced she is mafia then that is the best way to get others on board.
Just make a case that is undeniable.
Instead of just saying it.
No. I dont like that.
I suddenly have these shivers when I think about rayn.
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Did rayn do bluehunting in your mason? Did he try to see if you were blue AZ?
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On June 14 2024 16:30 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2024 16:28 Koshi wrote:On June 14 2024 16:27 Trfel wrote:On June 14 2024 16:24 Koshi wrote:On June 14 2024 16:22 Trfel wrote:@Koshi: On June 09 2024 16:40 Koshi wrote:
Yeah we lynch sandroba->Mocsta (->Koshi) -> marv On June 09 2024 17:00 Koshi wrote:
I am 100% convinced you are mafia. But I will lynch you last because your filter is huge.
Sandroba and Mocsta are both mafia and I think we agree on that. On June 09 2024 17:00 Koshi wrote:
So we can lynch them first and then battle it out. This is just a random thing I thought of a while ago, but can you explain this? Let's imagine for a moment that you have transcended the bounds of possibility and were right on all these reads. How then, do you presume to lynch mafia!sandroba and mafia!Mocsta and go into a showdown with mafia!marvellosity, after you called out the entire mafia team three days previously, and not somehow get night killed along the way? Or is this whole thing just fake? Exavtly. I already said it once. If it is Mocsta why am I not dead yet. Then rayn just insulted everybod and their mothers iirc. But it isnt Mocsta. It is sandroba dmb and a mystery man Not my point though. I'm saying that I don't understand how you could have made these posts at this time. You're planning out a future that just isn't possible from a town perspective. Hmmm? Sure is possible. I think 3 people are mafia, I think who is the easiest to kill first, then repeat 2 times. Sure, if you conveniently ignore the fact that mafia would just night kill you. It makes me wonder if you are mafia and you came up with the people you wanted to push and then this was natural from your mindset, since mafia don't really have to worry about getting shot? You can't seriously tell me you are town and expected to lynch three mafia in a row without getting shot first?
Yes. I am shot often before I can lynch 3 mafia. But a boy is allowed to dream, isnt he.
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On June 14 2024 16:32 AlphaZero wrote:
But he would probably know it was too dangerous to do that.
He did it a bit with Slam.
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On June 14 2024 16:33 AlphaZero wrote:
What happened to the DMB push?
I ask you to make a case if you want me to consider her properly and then you call rayn mafia.
Literally half a page after calling for rayn to understand your DMB push.
No DMB needs to die.
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After DMB I wonder if it is rayn.
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On June 14 2024 16:33 AlphaZero wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2024 16:33 Koshi wrote:On June 14 2024 16:32 AlphaZero wrote:
But he would probably know it was too dangerous to do that. He did it a bit with Slam. That wasn;t blue hunting. He wanted him to claim outright. You think that is alignment indicative?
Well. If he tried it with you as well it would be. Once. Meh. Even though slam was not in danger so I dont understand why he wanted him to claim.
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On June 14 2024 16:34 AlphaZero wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2024 16:33 Koshi wrote:On June 14 2024 16:33 AlphaZero wrote:
What happened to the DMB push?
I ask you to make a case if you want me to consider her properly and then you call rayn mafia.
Literally half a page after calling for rayn to understand your DMB push. No DMB needs to die. You should probably post something more compelling that whatever it is you are doing then.
She is a sneaky sneak that did sneaky things.
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Also still on 8 pages so still a nazi.
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On June 14 2024 17:12 AlphaZero wrote:
on the first note: You know what trfel, I may be bad here, but I actually feel her read progressions are natural.
on the second note: It makes sense to me that her first thought is that mocsta is red, presumably because she is thinking that he should be dead if he is town and blue.
third note: I don't think that is alignment indicative.
Fourth note: Meh. I haven't really found town DMB to be that quick to shift perspective.
Honestly, my thoughts are that this case is not really that convincing, but I tend to town read DMB when I am town, even when she is mafia.
wow you are going for another day of admitting you were wrong.
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On June 14 2024 17:32 Trfel wrote:
I do think die_meatbaby is a little more likely mafia than scott31337 but I'm not very confident in that difference.
But I think lynching die_meatbaby has more support than lynching scott31337?
DMB is mafia. I am sure.
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On June 14 2024 17:47 Trfel wrote:
Sorry I forgot you wanted a town case on Mocsta.
Not really my thing. But here goes:
1. Easy to work with/talk to
Mocsta has been one of the easiest players to work with this game. He's very clear about where his thoughts are coming from, is willing to consider different angles, and readily gives feedback on other peoples' ideas.
2. Lots of independent analysis
Mocsta has done plenty of analysis here. Say what you want about the quality, but to me it shows that he is working to figure things out. I think he's made about as many analysis posts as anyone else.
3. Original thoughts
Mocsta often comes up with original thoughts that haven't been said by anyone else. This seems much more likely to come from someone who is thinking critically and trying to work things out.
I'm trying to understand why you two are so suspicious of each other. It felt like we were working together and seeing it so similarly day 2, and while we were wrong that day, that's not just something I throw away easily. See me working with Mocsta on his reasons for scumreading you, for example.
Maybe you're right on Mocsta. But if you are not, here is my guess as to why:
I think your expectations of Mocsta may be too high. He produces a lot of content and the scum hunting drive is clearly there. That said, I don't think his logic is on the same level as (for example) raynpelikoneet, marvellosity, Holyflare, people like that. Mocsta has his own, unique way of thinking about things, and while I think that's an asset, I think it may be throwing you off. I think you may be setting your expectations for Mocsta based on the amount of analysis he posts and the types of things he looks into, but then you hold him to a similar standard of logic and reasoning and that's just not the way he thinks and the result is that he seems scummy.
Could be wrong but that's my two cents.
You are right. Point 3 is what you need to remember tomorrow. Mocsta did well.
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rayn please forgive me. I was confused for a bit but I am back ok.
Mafia is AZ and not Mocsta. Please consider this.
But in both cases dmb is mafia with them.
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On June 14 2024 18:33 AlphaZero wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2024 18:29 Koshi wrote:
rayn please forgive me. I was confused for a bit but I am back ok.
Mafia is AZ and not Mocsta. Please consider this.
But in both cases dmb is mafia with them. The thing that really sucks about this is that I can’t even just put it down to you being bad, cause clearly I’m doing something wrong in establishing my innocence. I guess I can empathise with palmar from last game.
Not hard defending 2 mafia would be a start.
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On June 14 2024 20:35 die_meatbaby wrote:
Where are you guys talk to me!!!!
I was traveling home. Got half a day off because I got to go to a special dentist.
That being said.
I skimmed your posts. Nothing pinged me.
You are still mafia.
I will skim again later. Eating now.
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On June 14 2024 20:40 die_meatbaby wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2024 20:37 Mocsta wrote:
I'm here next 15mim
I need to filter dive to come.up.with a question
For now.. who is partnered with az? I have hard times to read rayn and slam. Do you think its possible thats one of them?
It is both of them. Or you and mystery man x.
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On June 14 2024 20:44 die_meatbaby wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2024 20:40 Koshi wrote:On June 14 2024 20:35 die_meatbaby wrote:
Where are you guys talk to me!!!! I was traveling home. Got half a day off because I got to go to a special dentist. That being said. I skimmed your posts. Nothing pinged me. You are still mafia. I will skim again later. Eating now. Why am I mafia. Why do you believe this scumteam everytime for a dmb misslynch if you are town
I dont need good reasons. You are the least townie out of all players here except maybe Slam.
Also pls dont give me these "always" "everytime" scenarios from the past because I dont remember if what you say is true. And tbh I dont believe it so..
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Also this invisible thing is pretty unbelievable to me. You got plenty attention with all your theories in the past. I remember that.
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On June 14 2024 20:55 die_meatbaby wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2024 20:53 Koshi wrote:On June 14 2024 20:44 die_meatbaby wrote:On June 14 2024 20:40 Koshi wrote:On June 14 2024 20:35 die_meatbaby wrote:
Where are you guys talk to me!!!! I was traveling home. Got half a day off because I got to go to a special dentist. That being said. I skimmed your posts. Nothing pinged me. You are still mafia. I will skim again later. Eating now. Why am I mafia. Why do you believe this scumteam everytime for a dmb misslynch if you are town I dont need good reasons. You are the least townie out of all players here except maybe Slam. Also pls dont give me these "always" "everytime" scenarios from the past because I dont remember if what you say is true. And tbh I dont believe it so.. then tell me why I am not townie. I made the first case on sandroba before other people made a real case on him. You really think that my mafia game would be this good that I would start with a sandro/mocstar case???
I dont remember you being a good factor for the sandroba lynch. The opposite was true.
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