I'll start woth saying Kelsier was obvious town. Why would mafia be so obtuse and angry in the start. That guy did not want to blend in.

Oh well.

Oh and I read till page 24.

Koshi

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June 09 2024 05:24 GMT

#1408

lol mafia just settled the 2 town wagons quickly and fucked off.

Koshi

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June 09 2024 05:27 GMT

#1410

There is no way scott is mafia. He was one of my first townreads. (I forgot why)

rayn is obvious town and I agree with him so that is potentially odd. Mostly when we are town we disagree more.

Koshi

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June 09 2024 05:31 GMT

#1415

On June 09 2024 14:28 scott31337 wrote:

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I miss you Koshi.
Let's talk tomorrow.

<3

Koshi

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June 09 2024 05:34 GMT

#1418

On June 09 2024 14:29 Trfel wrote:

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Guess that means you are mafia

In all seriousness though, raynpelikoneet not having any real scumreads doesn't bother you?

I am on page 24 and I like rayn. Liked the rsoultin read so much I wanted to sheep it.

The only bothersome thing is that I normally dont like him when we are both town. I still havent figured out why.

But maybe this is one of these rare occasions we will vibe as town.

Blah marv has 9 pages of filter. Dafuq is that. I was expecting 4.

Koshi

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June 09 2024 05:36 GMT

#1419

Ok. We can kill sandroba first.
Good stuff.
That will be easy and then you will trust me enough to go get marv and mocsta.

Koshi

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June 09 2024 05:37 GMT

#1420

Ok dmb can be worked with. Good.

Koshi

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June 09 2024 05:39 GMT

#1423

Read 2 pages of AZ filter and looks like he will get shot so no need to read further.

Koshi

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June 09 2024 05:42 GMT

#1424

On June 09 2024 14:38 scott31337 wrote:

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When you lay out this much truth you will be shot tonight. So lay it all out before you are dead.

❤
How much talk was there to not lynch you or Kelsier yesterday? Who wanted to go outside you 2?

Koshi

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June 09 2024 05:45 GMT

#1427

because I townread rayn, and rayn townreads slam, I will not try to read slam and just assume he is town.

Koshi

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June 09 2024 05:45 GMT

#1428

On June 09 2024 14:43 Trfel wrote:

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Rsoultin wanted to lynch sandroba, a few people talked about wanting to lynch AlphaZero or raynpelikoneet but nothing else gained much traction.

Jeez I replaced the only smart person.

Koshi

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June 09 2024 05:49 GMT

#1430

Vivax, you should accept that we live in a simulation. Most of us are vessals for beings that need to learn the emotions that we feel. Just accept that and let them learn while you enjoy yor life.

Koshi

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June 09 2024 05:51 GMT

#1431

On June 09 2024 14:46 Trfel wrote:

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You two working together would have been too unstoppable I guess

Want to talk Mocsta? Does it feel he is a townie being lost at times and just making noise? Or what do you think?

Koshi

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June 09 2024 06:00 GMT

#1435

On June 08 2024 18:39 Mocsta wrote:

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didn't realize I was known for strong stuff

My perception of kelsi3r is mostly unchanged even with all players now posting.
My consideration is exactly as drafted. The build smells to me like mafia are happy with this course of action.

Maybe you don't play with those factors?? It is something I give a weighting towards

I mean I get it's a shit defense mafia can easily throw out. But dude my mafia game is not about being 180 out of sync with dominant players. I don't really know what else I can tell you?

Mafia practically begging mafia partner to stop the interaction.

Koshi

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June 09 2024 06:01 GMT

#1436

On June 08 2024 19:20 marvellosity wrote:

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On June 08 2024 19:16 Mocsta wrote:

On June 08 2024 19:11 marvellosity wrote:

On June 08 2024 19:05 Mocsta wrote:

On June 08 2024 18:36 marvellosity wrote:

On June 08 2024 18:33 Mocsta wrote:

On June 08 2024 18:30 marvellosity wrote:

On June 08 2024 12:58 Mocsta wrote:

On June 08 2024 12:23 Oatsmaster wrote:
Mocsta has been bad so far but I don’t think it makes him scum. One thing I found particularly interesting is that he hasn’t engaged with Scott or vivax at all in his filter

awww man, i dont even understand why im not fitting in
woe is me

i haven't engaged with vivax because i find his playstyle really polarising which is not conducive to scumhunting.. to be fair with vivax i really need other people to make cases that i can then internalise

scott thats a fair call. i do have on my agenda to review now that he has more content which is what i was waiting for..
i was left underwhelmed with his posts when i caught up but did get a spider sense tingle from it. (i.e. underwhelmed beucase of stringing together BS)

the player that makes me uncomfortable in the pit of my stomach is AZ, so hes my top scum read.. again. i dont have it as an agenda to push today for reasons i have already stated and are unchanged.

will do a deep dive review on scott later today and i want to re-read sandroba

people i am not open to lynching today are:
oats, trfel, rsoultin, rayn, marv..

i didnt include az as if there was a wagon i would be all over that.

Which alignment wants to fit in, also

all can. It's a personality driven thing my dude

Come now.

You’re smart enough to know that mafia need to fit in and town generally don’t care as they just want to find mafia.

That’s not to say it’s a 100% thing else I’d have switched my vote to you immediately. But you know what I’m saying is true.

As an aside that’s where the kelsier town read came from. He so blatantly wasn’t trying to pacify you or town. Again this is not 100% but it’s a townie trait and not a mafia trait.

you know there was a post before you said.. it works both ways.. scum marv is too smart to do that as well

same with the fit in comment.. scum mocsta definitely wouldnt throw that out there

i hear what you are saying, doesnt change both need to fit in. for me the weighting is a bit stronger cos i have a big ego

If you have a big ego then you shouldn’t feel the need to fit in - makes literally no sense mate

Does palmar, me, hf try to fit in?

different type of dominance trait. regardless. i dont think this helps solve the game

if you are genuinely curious can talk about it more post game.

Well, it does for me if it helps me draw conclusions about your alignment…

But yes, I have nothing further to say about it now

Koshi

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June 09 2024 06:02 GMT

#1437

On June 08 2024 19:56 AlphaZero wrote:
Couple of thoughts after Mocsta interactions

- it seems to me like he is drawing conclusions and then making really terrible justifications for them rather than acting with a curious and open mind to determine alignments

- it seems to me he is cautious and almost apologetic when pushing me, despite being his 2nd? Largest scum read. Tracks as mafia lynching town, not as town who thinks they have got a lead on mafia.

- his reasoning and justifications are awful and nonsensical.

the problem I am having is I do t know why he would play like this as either alignment.

- option 1 he is tying himself up into knots because he is pushing mafia agenda

-option 2 he is town and he legitimately thinks these things.

I view option 1 more likely through my lens of how the game should be played, and what is reasonable to expect from town and mafia.

It seems trfel thinks the other option would be more likely.

I’d just like to get some more thoughts itt about this.