Sweet Summer Mafia - Page 12

On June 15 2024 10:49 Vivax wrote:
I want my old battlestation back my performance from phone sucks. No music, no headphones. No time.

I am ashamed

On June 15 2024 10:50 Vivax wrote:


That‘s not the same.
Can‘t be a pianist on a toy keyboard

On June 15 2024 11:14 AlphaZero wrote:
Hahaha I’m going to be mislynched next probably.

This is a loss.

On June 15 2024 16:19 Trfel wrote:
I'm actually pretty surprised to see that die_meatbaby voted for scott31337, even if only for 12 minutes. I'm not sure if that means anything, but it goes directly against everything die_meatbaby had previously said about scott31337.

Post-lynch, die_meatbaby says she's sorry for not believing in Vivax, and that she will find whoever is responsible for the Vivax lynch. But then she says that she'll take a closer look at scott31337 in response to AlphaZero's post. Seems.... off? If she's truly upset about the Vivax mislynch and wants to hold people accountable, wouldn't AlphaZero be one of the first places she'd look?

Note that I'm not blaming AlphaZero, everyone's wrong sometimes, and it's at least as much my fault as it is his. But if die_meatbaby is looking for somewhere to put the blame, I wouldn't expect her to follow AlphaZero's read to suspect scott31337, who made it clear he didn't want to vote for Vivax.

I think die_meatbaby's alignment is key here. Before I screwed everything up, did we have a wagon on mafia/were mafia bussing?

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Tried a bunch of shortcuts to see if I could get an easier read on die_meatbaby and they all failed. Guess I have to do it the hard way

I just don't really have any good ways to read die_meatbaby. But I also can't end up unsure, I think we really really need to figure this out. Is it possible to look somewhere else and come back to die_meatbaby later? Maybe it'll become more clear? From my perspective, it's either die_meatbaby and scott31337 or we have a very very serious problem. But if I had to guess I'd guess that we have a very serious problem.

When I look at die_meatbaby's filter, I see a lot of things I think are wrong. For example, there's the warning to Oatsmaster, there's complaining about other people being inactive, scumreading Mocsta seemingly before seeing that he wasn't the night kill, townreading scott31337 because he looks suspicious as town, etc. But does that mean anything? No one else has been very convinced by these arguments.

Well, I've got another little thing.Note that until this point, die_meatbaby's read on scott31337 was town.

So if die_meatbaby is considering scott31337 as mafia, can she seriously consider AlphaZero being mafia? Of anyone in the game, I think those two would be the absolutely least likely to be mafia together. If she was more sure in scott31337 being mafia this would be more incriminating, as it is I don't think it's a big deal, but it is interesting that die_meatbaby didn't seem to follow up the questioning over scott31337's alignment. Even if she didn't consider it super urgent, if she's town, she ought to, no? Since it affects her decision between Mocsta and AlphaZero, which is what she was focusing on?Also, what happened here? Die_meatbaby said she'd rather have herself be lynched than Vivax, but clearly she changed her mind? Looks like this happened due to AlphaZero's point about Vivax dumping his scumreads before getting mislynched last time and seemingly not doing so here.

I also have no clue why die_meatbaby unvoted from scott31337. Context shows that I said I preferred lynching Vivax to scott31337, then die_meatbaby votes for scott31337, then AlphaZero says he thinks Vivax is more likely mafia than scott31337, then AlphaZero votes for Vivax, raynpelikoneet follows and votes for Vivax, and then die_meatbaby unvotes. Huh? Just doesn't feel like a sensible reaction. My best guess is that die_meatbaby unvoted due to not thinking that scott31337 would be a viable wagon. In this case, however, she'd be choosing to vote between Vivax and AlphaZero, and while I can't say she didn't do this, she didn't mention considering the AlphaZero wagon at all. Feels like she unvoted scott31337 and then.... waited to go onto Vivax for some reason? It's hard for me to know if this makes sense from town or not.

For die_meatbaby to be town and do this, she'd have to be investigating scott31337's filter and not be sold on the Vivax lynch, then see support for the scott31337 wagon (that she was convinced enough on to vote for it) go away and then unvote without a new place to put the vote? If die_meatbaby is town and actually cared about scott31337 being lynched, I would have expected her to protest the wagon losing support, or at least leave her vote on it until she found something better, no? Why would she remove her vote when she doesn't seem very excited about any other option and there was no reason to go back on the read in the first place?

If that makes sense. It's another little thing that isn't super incriminating, but it's the best I've got.

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Conclusion

More little things. Not sure if any of it makes die_meatbaby mafia, but here it is anyway.

1. Die_meatbaby post Vivax flip said she'd look into scott31337 again but also wanted to hold the people for lynching Vivax responsible (presumably including AlphaZero, who was the one she was responding to about looking into scott31337). This doesn't really make sense from the perspective of someone who knows that AlphaZero contributed significantly to lynching Vivax and also knows that scott31337 didn't do so. As in, if die_meatbaby is aware of these things, which she really ought to be, then I have a hard time seeing how both of these post-flip comments can be made from the same mindset.
2. Die_meatbaby didn't seem to try to figure out scott31337's alignment day 3, despite it being key to other reads she seemed much more interested in.
3. Unvote timing on scott31337 doesn't make much sense