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die_meatbaby
Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
March 04 2024 20:47 GMT
#1181
On March 05 2024 05:38 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2024 05:32 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 05 2024 05:18 CopCake wrote:
On March 05 2024 05:14 die_meatbaby wrote:
@copcake my tea is getting cold and I ate already a lot of the hand baked biscuits.I am waiting for you to tell me the real tea about you that I should know. I hope I didn't bake this exquisite pastry for the wrong person.


I consider your beloved Duke smart, and also, insane enough to pull the "I am going to claim JK" as mafia. It is a hard, hard thing to do, but he is absolutely capable, specially if he has a good team to back him.

I will invite you to make an exercise, take all the time you need to answer.

Forget that it is vivax who claimed, just that X person claimed JK in this game.

What are the benefits he wins doing this as town and benefits he wins by doing this as mafia?

Do not let your emotions for vivax to blurry this exercise, just a cold head, thinking of scenarios.



Thank you for this honorable invitation. It would be a pleasure to do some relaxation exercises with you. How about puppy and wine yoga?

I understand that a horribole red colerd person could to that to our lovley Town but I could not see Vivax doeing that, because this is not how this duke treats our city. He would not be able to do such a terrible thing in such bad times as these.But you have to understand that even if he hasn't been to the doctor, he still shows a healthy kind of paranoia through this action. That only makes him even more sympathetic to our city

I don't want to blame you or scare you, but what good things you have done for our divine city. I didn't even get a hand-knitted jacket, even though everyone knows how good you are with red wool


The fact that red looks fantastic of me gives me a better perspective of how other people would look with the same color. As I said before, it suits me, and I love it.

I can think of many scenarios of how a play like that is more beneficial for mafia than town, but that is my perspective (which can be wrong, I am not closed), still what the duke did is quite stupid if town. You cannot deny that.

And I think it is quite a town trait to share all the probabilities, and do not keep them to myself.




You already said it. It is too stupid to that as mafia. We would reread our letter before giving it to the pigeon to show the world our words. Looked too conspicuous to let it see some other trusted members. As a good duke without a guilty conscience you don´t fear looking bad because you know you aren´t even if he claimed wrong he is still a better citizen of this city than most of the other inhabitants
Everything has an end only the sausage has two
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 04 2024 20:47 GMT
#1182
Can everyone town reading cake please explain a town oriented mindset for her play at the start of the day.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
March 04 2024 20:48 GMT
#1183
On March 05 2024 05:46 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2024 05:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 05 2024 05:44 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 05 2024 05:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 05 2024 05:39 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 05 2024 05:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 05 2024 05:30 DarthPunk wrote:
I have high expectations from JAT after he talked such a big game in the obs last time.

He's doing fine so far.


What specifically do you think he is doing well with?

What is that question really, he has one post that is game related...


Yes I know. Which is why I am asking.

It is an observation i also made, noone else seems to have made that.


Ok so it was sarcasm?

What the fuck? If you have a question ask me.
JAT made the observation of Koshi not wanting to die as he has been wanting to in his last games.
It's a decent observation and could ask for answers. Ergo, it's a good start for him to find something relevant in the game that other people have not said already, right or wrong.
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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
March 04 2024 20:49 GMT
#1184
On March 05 2024 05:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2024 05:44 Vivax wrote:
Rayn downplaying his mafia abilities is one fat red flag

how have i done that?
unless you mean comparison between me/marv/sandroba that i didnt understand


You did that when you called dmbs post bullshit.
Tsk tsk
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
March 04 2024 20:49 GMT
#1185
On March 05 2024 05:49 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2024 05:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 05 2024 05:44 Vivax wrote:
Rayn downplaying his mafia abilities is one fat red flag

how have i done that?
unless you mean comparison between me/marv/sandroba that i didnt understand


You did that when you called dmbs post bullshit.
Tsk tsk

you have to elaborate more on that.
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CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
March 04 2024 20:49 GMT
#1186
https://tl.net/forum/mafia/512552-palmars-purge-crisis-and-turmoil-in-liquidia?user=Trfel&page=2

Like all I got from here is that he posts a lot of sad faces as mafia and wishy washy reads.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
March 04 2024 20:50 GMT
#1187
Please Vivax, make a case on how i am down playing my mafia play, so i can answer it, because i have no idea what you are saying right now.
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die_meatbaby
Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
March 04 2024 20:50 GMT
#1188
On March 05 2024 05:47 DarthPunk wrote:
Can everyone town reading cake please explain a town oriented mindset for her play at the start of the day.


Unfortunately, I have to disappoint you. The young lady has not touched my delicious cakes. Something is wrong here
Everything has an end only the sausage has two
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 04 2024 20:50 GMT
#1189
On March 05 2024 05:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2024 05:46 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 05 2024 05:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 05 2024 05:44 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 05 2024 05:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 05 2024 05:39 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 05 2024 05:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 05 2024 05:30 DarthPunk wrote:
I have high expectations from JAT after he talked such a big game in the obs last time.

He's doing fine so far.


What specifically do you think he is doing well with?

What is that question really, he has one post that is game related...


Yes I know. Which is why I am asking.

It is an observation i also made, noone else seems to have made that.


Ok so it was sarcasm?

What the fuck? If you have a question ask me.
JAT made the observation of Koshi not wanting to die as he has been wanting to in his last games.
It's a decent observation and could ask for answers. Ergo, it's a good start for him to find something relevant in the game that other people have not said already, right or wrong.


I -literally- was asking you.

I found that post to be a nothing post basically.

Like from this whole thread, that was the thing he wants to comment on?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
March 04 2024 20:51 GMT
#1190
On March 05 2024 05:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2024 05:49 Vivax wrote:
On March 05 2024 05:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 05 2024 05:44 Vivax wrote:
Rayn downplaying his mafia abilities is one fat red flag

how have i done that?
unless you mean comparison between me/marv/sandroba that i didnt understand


You did that when you called dmbs post bullshit.
Tsk tsk

you have to elaborate more on that.


When we were trying to gather momentum on VE that you agreed on as well and still did not vote by the way, DMB said there‘s the risk that you are about to become an elected mafia mayor with lots of scumsperience and then you intended to call her mafia for it by the looks of it.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 04 2024 20:51 GMT
#1191
On March 05 2024 05:50 die_meatbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2024 05:47 DarthPunk wrote:
Can everyone town reading cake please explain a town oriented mindset for her play at the start of the day.


Unfortunately, I have to disappoint you. The young lady has not touched my delicious cakes. Something is wrong here


Absolutely.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 04 2024 20:52 GMT
#1192
Copcake why are you not voting for me?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
March 04 2024 20:53 GMT
#1193
OMG so much was not expecting so much loooool

People pretending to have reads that mean anything already are fucking awesome, like I can kinda get a read off that stuff but so many are good at faking it. You guys won't have any meaningful reads until flips happen.

I am, actively, doing jack shit. But I'm also not pushing an agenda or doing anything scummy, so energy put into lynching me is wasted.

So you want a mayor that is in here pretending with you guys. I get it. I hear you. I'm just not doing it. I'm not pretending to have reads that mean anything right now. I'm going to lynch someone who is barely posting, someone who ISN'T ME that is barely posting, and that's what I'll do as mayor. You either like that or you don't. I was hoping Slam would come in here and make you guys like it but you can't count on anyone these days.

I'll talk to you guys about who I think is mafia after I see some stuff happen in the thread that is alignment indicative. I don't think how DMB phrased something or how much Oats posted D1 or any bullshit like that is alignment indicative. I like votes, lynches, who pushes what and why. We don't have that D1. We have activity. So that's what I'm running on bish. You don't like my activity level? Then you agree with my premise and should vote me as mayor rather than someone who could be mafia.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 04 2024 20:53 GMT
#1194
So I am on page 36 and I am going to call marv mafia.
and I am calling sandroba & rayn dummies for pushing the marv is town shit into this thread with literally nothing to back it up.

Fuck your shit.

town!marv is very capable to play this game and get mayor. He would be a good mayor and this game could be easy and fun.

The shit you 3 are doing is horrible and against town wincon. I also play against town wincon on purpose in previous games and marv was the one complaining and saying I shouldn't do it.

Well he is doing just that.


Now what mafia!marv would do this is an entire other story. And a very believable one.

I also dislike sandroba.
I probably like rayn but not enough to say he is for sure not mafia. But ok. I can work with him most likely.
I had a good night of sleep.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
March 04 2024 20:53 GMT
#1195
On March 05 2024 04:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2024 04:58 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 05 2024 04:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 05 2024 04:31 Vivax wrote:
On March 05 2024 04:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 05 2024 04:23 Vivax wrote:
On March 05 2024 04:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 05 2024 04:19 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 05 2024 04:10 Alakaslam wrote:
On March 05 2024 04:08 iamperfection wrote:
[quote]
No how so.

Isn't Koshi saying he suspects a fake claim from Vivax?

This would be because Vivax is usually very adverse to real claiming,
Which implies this is a gambit for mayor.

If Vivax wasn't under pressure, that is further evidence it was a gambit for mayor.

Where is my comprehension/logic problem?


He is not fake claiming thats not what he would do.
As I already know fake claiming always be exposed at some point and as he loves to play here on TL he would not risk a fake claim as scum and risking an early lynch. Just feels so wrong and it would be not comparable with any game I habe read of him. Maybe he is Town and claims so we get a town mayor but even that doesn´t seem like his meta

Why would Vivax think we don't get town mayor as he thinks i am town?


Correction: I currently think you are town. But I know I'm town.

Yes but how does DMB come to conclusion that while you thinking i am town, you need to claim to have a town mayor? Because for me that seems like an insane thought process.


No it's clear rationality.
How do you protect the role that can't protect itself but other players? You make it mayor.

They have to kill three randomly selected BGS before they can NK me.
If we get the roleblocker I become a jailkeeper with medic protection.

It's honestly mind boggling I have to explain.

I understand your point. I really do. It just hinges on us getting the roleblocker where there is no guarantee on. Otherwise none of this matters because most likely there is nothing else to roleblock than you....

I don't usually live long as town. There is perhaps some logic to that. I am not sure if you know this but i am 11/4 in LYLO (let it be F-3, F-5, or F-7) situations. From those games, one is where i had the correct read and i just couldnt for my life convince Oats to vote for VA over me even when the mafia dude was voting for Oats (lol). One i got right but i still consider it a loss, because i think Art/rsoul slot cheated to get me townread them and DP was mafia (RSM2).

So basically i am really fucking good when i live long enough. I just:
1) dont get to live long enough
2) dont have enough "decent people" around long enough

Both of these can be avoided this game, (2) naturally and (1) by making me a mayor.
I have never been lynched in LYLO as town, have you? Does it tell you anything about how you/me look to other people and who is more trusthworthy (if we assume we have good reads -- as i legit know you DO have good reads most of the time, later on in the game)?

The only other player i would genuinely say is on par or even perhaps better than i am late game as town is marv.


you rolled so often mafia that your mafia game is insane and i would not vote you as a mayor in any game. There is no way to confince me to vote you as major. I would rather vote on somebody who plays bad mafia. You are not a safe option for mayor def. not.

that's bullshit you have not seen me mafia aside from last game and i havent rolled mafia in like 1,5 years before that.



On March 05 2024 05:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If there is anything i learned from the MS game, it's that lynch people who post bullshit.
DMB is mafia.

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
March 04 2024 20:54 GMT
#1196
On March 05 2024 05:47 die_meatbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2024 05:38 CopCake wrote:
On March 05 2024 05:32 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 05 2024 05:18 CopCake wrote:
On March 05 2024 05:14 die_meatbaby wrote:
@copcake my tea is getting cold and I ate already a lot of the hand baked biscuits.I am waiting for you to tell me the real tea about you that I should know. I hope I didn't bake this exquisite pastry for the wrong person.


I consider your beloved Duke smart, and also, insane enough to pull the "I am going to claim JK" as mafia. It is a hard, hard thing to do, but he is absolutely capable, specially if he has a good team to back him.

I will invite you to make an exercise, take all the time you need to answer.

Forget that it is vivax who claimed, just that X person claimed JK in this game.

What are the benefits he wins doing this as town and benefits he wins by doing this as mafia?

Do not let your emotions for vivax to blurry this exercise, just a cold head, thinking of scenarios.



Thank you for this honorable invitation. It would be a pleasure to do some relaxation exercises with you. How about puppy and wine yoga?

I understand that a horribole red colerd person could to that to our lovley Town but I could not see Vivax doeing that, because this is not how this duke treats our city. He would not be able to do such a terrible thing in such bad times as these.But you have to understand that even if he hasn't been to the doctor, he still shows a healthy kind of paranoia through this action. That only makes him even more sympathetic to our city

I don't want to blame you or scare you, but what good things you have done for our divine city. I didn't even get a hand-knitted jacket, even though everyone knows how good you are with red wool


The fact that red looks fantastic of me gives me a better perspective of how other people would look with the same color. As I said before, it suits me, and I love it.

I can think of many scenarios of how a play like that is more beneficial for mafia than town, but that is my perspective (which can be wrong, I am not closed), still what the duke did is quite stupid if town. You cannot deny that.

And I think it is quite a town trait to share all the probabilities, and do not keep them to myself.




You already said it. It is too stupid to that as mafia. We would reread our letter before giving it to the pigeon to show the world our words. Looked too conspicuous to let it see some other trusted members. As a good duke without a guilty conscience you don´t fear looking bad because you know you aren´t even if he claimed wrong he is still a better citizen of this city than most of the other inhabitants


I understand your point of view, but consider also mine. It was stupid, so stupid that is perfect as mafia.

Who is stupid enough to do that as mafia?

It is just a small chance.

Tiny.

This concept shouldnt make me mafia. But Marv is right, was it he or iamp? talking too much about it is not helpful, is like going in circles.

What do you think of my ToThe Stars note?
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 04 2024 20:54 GMT
#1197
On March 05 2024 05:53 VisceraEyes wrote:
OMG so much was not expecting so much loooool

People pretending to have reads that mean anything already are fucking awesome, like I can kinda get a read off that stuff but so many are good at faking it. You guys won't have any meaningful reads until flips happen.

I am, actively, doing jack shit. But I'm also not pushing an agenda or doing anything scummy, so energy put into lynching me is wasted.

So you want a mayor that is in here pretending with you guys. I get it. I hear you. I'm just not doing it. I'm not pretending to have reads that mean anything right now. I'm going to lynch someone who is barely posting, someone who ISN'T ME that is barely posting, and that's what I'll do as mayor. You either like that or you don't. I was hoping Slam would come in here and make you guys like it but you can't count on anyone these days.

I'll talk to you guys about who I think is mafia after I see some stuff happen in the thread that is alignment indicative. I don't think how DMB phrased something or how much Oats posted D1 or any bullshit like that is alignment indicative. I like votes, lynches, who pushes what and why. We don't have that D1. We have activity. So that's what I'm running on bish. You don't like my activity level? Then you agree with my premise and should vote me as mayor rather than someone who could be mafia.


Hahahahaha

Well played VE 😂
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
March 04 2024 20:55 GMT
#1198
On March 05 2024 05:53 VisceraEyes wrote:
OMG so much was not expecting so much loooool

People pretending to have reads that mean anything already are fucking awesome, like I can kinda get a read off that stuff but so many are good at faking it. You guys won't have any meaningful reads until flips happen.

I am, actively, doing jack shit. But I'm also not pushing an agenda or doing anything scummy, so energy put into lynching me is wasted.

So you want a mayor that is in here pretending with you guys. I get it. I hear you. I'm just not doing it. I'm not pretending to have reads that mean anything right now. I'm going to lynch someone who is barely posting, someone who ISN'T ME that is barely posting, and that's what I'll do as mayor. You either like that or you don't. I was hoping Slam would come in here and make you guys like it but you can't count on anyone these days.

I'll talk to you guys about who I think is mafia after I see some stuff happen in the thread that is alignment indicative. I don't think how DMB phrased something or how much Oats posted D1 or any bullshit like that is alignment indicative. I like votes, lynches, who pushes what and why. We don't have that D1. We have activity. So that's what I'm running on bish. You don't like my activity level? Then you agree with my premise and should vote me as mayor rather than someone who could be mafia.

Did you just omgus
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
March 04 2024 20:55 GMT
#1199
On March 05 2024 05:53 VisceraEyes wrote:
I am, actively, doing jack shit.


Looks good to me. Who do we vote now ?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
March 04 2024 20:55 GMT
#1200
On March 05 2024 05:51 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2024 05:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 05 2024 05:49 Vivax wrote:
On March 05 2024 05:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 05 2024 05:44 Vivax wrote:
Rayn downplaying his mafia abilities is one fat red flag

how have i done that?
unless you mean comparison between me/marv/sandroba that i didnt understand


You did that when you called dmbs post bullshit.
Tsk tsk

you have to elaborate more on that.


When we were trying to gather momentum on VE that you agreed on as well and still did not vote by the way, DMB said there‘s the risk that you are about to become an elected mafia mayor with lots of scumsperience and then you intended to call her mafia for it by the looks of it.

So you think i tried to switch the momentum from VE to DMB?
Do you think i would do that as mafia?
Do you think why i thought DMB is mafia is completely unreasonable?
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