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On March 05 2024 05:34 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 05:32 DarthPunk wrote:
I don’t think Rayn is outside of his scum range btw. So you thinks it's possible scum rayn masoned marv willingly
We don't even know what marv is. Besides, why shouldn't he?
It's like you think masoning marv is equal to running naked and heavily armed into a military encampment.
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koshi goes to town pile for that post on trfel.
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On March 05 2024 05:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 05:30 DarthPunk wrote:
I have high expectations from JAT after he talked such a big game in the obs last time. He's doing fine so far.
What specifically do you think he is doing well with?
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On March 05 2024 05:39 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 05:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 05 2024 05:30 DarthPunk wrote:
I have high expectations from JAT after he talked such a big game in the obs last time. He's doing fine so far. What specifically do you think he is doing well with?
What is that question really, he has one post that is game related...
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On March 05 2024 05:38 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 05:34 iamperfection wrote:On March 05 2024 05:32 DarthPunk wrote:
I don’t think Rayn is outside of his scum range btw. So you thinks it's possible scum rayn masoned marv willingly Yes. I would mason a strong townie like that as mafia 100 percent of the time. Without the thread watching over you it would be much easier to pocket someone. TL players are very weak to being pocketed. I think that is the only thing MS have over us actually. They are far more aware of and concerned by pocketing attempts. I’m not calling Rayn mafia here im just saying it’s within his range and It’s part of why I’m voting vivax for mayor over him.
I did it once with rsoultin (I was the scum mason and tried to pocker her like that) and it backfired spectacularly :D
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On March 05 2024 05:35 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 05:31 CopCake wrote:On March 05 2024 05:29 Koshi wrote:On March 04 2024 12:40 Trfel wrote:On March 04 2024 12:34 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 04 2024 12:31 Trfel wrote:On March 04 2024 12:28 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 04 2024 12:25 Trfel wrote:On March 04 2024 12:24 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 04 2024 12:19 Trfel wrote:
[quote]Seems like an easy way to avoid the responsibility of the results of said lynch, no?
And I don't understand why saying pregame that you would vote for Palmar and then changing your mind is a reason we should make you mayor? I was making a joke about Vivax saying he was going to autovote Palmar pregame and then immediately changed his mind. Imo the Mayor KP is town KP, not a oneshot Day vig. It's not about avoiding responsibility it's about giving the town a chance to pull a 2for1 on D1. Actually I'll cement that point, if I'm not going to win the mayor vote at the end of the day, I'm not going to vote for someone who hasn't also pledged to have the town decide the lynch. I don't think the second wagon is a "town lynch" at all. In fact there's a decent likelihood that the second wagon would be pushed by mafia, no? That's assuming the first lynch is scum which D1 imo is a crap shoot, it's just as likely to be town pushed by mafia and the runner up is the scum, hence the double tap. TL towns are like barely 50% for D1 scum lynches iirc. You're still ignoring the possibility that both are town. My point is, just because "town" votes for something doesn't make it the best play. I'm not saying you have to go for a hero play or something, but just that automatically lynching the top two instead of the top one isn't necessarily a good idea. If both are town then we'll have played a colossally trash D1 and I wouldn't be trusting my own read anymore than I trust any other individual on D1. There's something to be said for wisdom of the crowds. There's almost nothing to be said for wisdom of the crowds, that's the point. It's 16 vs 5, the whole point is that wisdom of the crowds is really ineffective, that's how the game works. The problem with this entire conversation is that Tfrel looks smart and MZ bad. But it is the only thing Tfrel does in this entire timespan. Look smart. But he isn't doing anything that helps town find mafia. I don't like it at all. I think this is the second? comment about it, first being my rayn if I remember correctly. Why the "Trfl looks smart" a bad thing? Last game here, he was on fire and caught all the mafia team. If you feel like that, pressure him to give you a list of players. I can add a third, I thought those Trfel posts were bad too. If I remember right, it was his first posts too, it looked like scum hiding between technicality/setup discussion to participate. I liked his posts going forward though, I think he's town now
This is good 
I remember Tfrel apologizing a lot and saying "I am sorry" many times when he is town.
I was trying to look for a scum game of him here but I couldnt, would be helpful if someone can link me.
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Hey DMB, who would you lynch if the deadline was now?
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On March 05 2024 05:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 05:27 DarthPunk wrote:
The only one I’m really afraid of being mafia in that lot is Rayn
Which would be, why?
If you need me to still explain it’s that I think you are the strongest mafia player in that three by some margin.
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On March 05 2024 05:41 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 05:35 Rels wrote:On March 05 2024 05:31 CopCake wrote:On March 05 2024 05:29 Koshi wrote:On March 04 2024 12:40 Trfel wrote:On March 04 2024 12:34 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 04 2024 12:31 Trfel wrote:On March 04 2024 12:28 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 04 2024 12:25 Trfel wrote:On March 04 2024 12:24 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
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I was making a joke about Vivax saying he was going to autovote Palmar pregame and then immediately changed his mind.
Imo the Mayor KP is town KP, not a oneshot Day vig. It's not about avoiding responsibility it's about giving the town a chance to pull a 2for1 on D1.
Actually I'll cement that point, if I'm not going to win the mayor vote at the end of the day, I'm not going to vote for someone who hasn't also pledged to have the town decide the lynch. I don't think the second wagon is a "town lynch" at all. In fact there's a decent likelihood that the second wagon would be pushed by mafia, no? That's assuming the first lynch is scum which D1 imo is a crap shoot, it's just as likely to be town pushed by mafia and the runner up is the scum, hence the double tap. TL towns are like barely 50% for D1 scum lynches iirc. You're still ignoring the possibility that both are town. My point is, just because "town" votes for something doesn't make it the best play. I'm not saying you have to go for a hero play or something, but just that automatically lynching the top two instead of the top one isn't necessarily a good idea. If both are town then we'll have played a colossally trash D1 and I wouldn't be trusting my own read anymore than I trust any other individual on D1. There's something to be said for wisdom of the crowds. There's almost nothing to be said for wisdom of the crowds, that's the point. It's 16 vs 5, the whole point is that wisdom of the crowds is really ineffective, that's how the game works. The problem with this entire conversation is that Tfrel looks smart and MZ bad. But it is the only thing Tfrel does in this entire timespan. Look smart. But he isn't doing anything that helps town find mafia. I don't like it at all. I think this is the second? comment about it, first being my rayn if I remember correctly. Why the "Trfl looks smart" a bad thing? Last game here, he was on fire and caught all the mafia team. If you feel like that, pressure him to give you a list of players. I can add a third, I thought those Trfel posts were bad too. If I remember right, it was his first posts too, it looked like scum hiding between technicality/setup discussion to participate. I liked his posts going forward though, I think he's town now This is good I remember Tfrel apologizing a lot and saying "I am sorry" many times when he is town. I was trying to look for a scum game of him here but I couldnt, would be helpful if someone can link me.
https://tl.net/forum/mafia/390080-tl-mafia-database#2
find Trfel there.
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On March 05 2024 05:40 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 05:38 DarthPunk wrote:On March 05 2024 05:34 iamperfection wrote:On March 05 2024 05:32 DarthPunk wrote:
I don’t think Rayn is outside of his scum range btw. So you thinks it's possible scum rayn masoned marv willingly Yes. I would mason a strong townie like that as mafia 100 percent of the time. Without the thread watching over you it would be much easier to pocket someone. TL players are very weak to being pocketed. I think that is the only thing MS have over us actually. They are far more aware of and concerned by pocketing attempts. I’m not calling Rayn mafia here im just saying it’s within his range and It’s part of why I’m voting vivax for mayor over him. I did it once with rsoultin (I was the scum mason and tried to pocker her like that) and it backfired spectacularly :D
Doesn’t mean it’s bad. Iirc she was particularly wary of being pocketed .
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Rayn downplaying his mafia abilities is one fat red flag
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On March 05 2024 05:42 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 05:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 05 2024 05:27 DarthPunk wrote:
The only one I’m really afraid of being mafia in that lot is Rayn
Which would be, why? If you need me to still explain it’s that I think you are the strongest mafia player in that three by some margin.
by some margin? :O
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On March 04 2024 22:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Trfel looks too clean, it worries me.
Damn. I promise I didn't read this till now.
Good stuff.
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On March 05 2024 05:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 05:39 DarthPunk wrote:On March 05 2024 05:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 05 2024 05:30 DarthPunk wrote:
I have high expectations from JAT after he talked such a big game in the obs last time. He's doing fine so far. What specifically do you think he is doing well with? What is that question really, he has one post that is game related...
Yes I know. Which is why I am asking.
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On March 05 2024 05:44 Vivax wrote:
Rayn downplaying his mafia abilities is one fat red flag
how have i done that?
unless you mean comparison between me/marv/sandroba that i didnt understand
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On March 05 2024 05:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 05:41 CopCake wrote:On March 05 2024 05:35 Rels wrote:On March 05 2024 05:31 CopCake wrote:On March 05 2024 05:29 Koshi wrote:On March 04 2024 12:40 Trfel wrote:On March 04 2024 12:34 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 04 2024 12:31 Trfel wrote:On March 04 2024 12:28 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 04 2024 12:25 Trfel wrote:
[quote]I don't think the second wagon is a "town lynch" at all. In fact there's a decent likelihood that the second wagon would be pushed by mafia, no? That's assuming the first lynch is scum which D1 imo is a crap shoot, it's just as likely to be town pushed by mafia and the runner up is the scum, hence the double tap. TL towns are like barely 50% for D1 scum lynches iirc. You're still ignoring the possibility that both are town. My point is, just because "town" votes for something doesn't make it the best play. I'm not saying you have to go for a hero play or something, but just that automatically lynching the top two instead of the top one isn't necessarily a good idea. If both are town then we'll have played a colossally trash D1 and I wouldn't be trusting my own read anymore than I trust any other individual on D1. There's something to be said for wisdom of the crowds. There's almost nothing to be said for wisdom of the crowds, that's the point. It's 16 vs 5, the whole point is that wisdom of the crowds is really ineffective, that's how the game works. The problem with this entire conversation is that Tfrel looks smart and MZ bad. But it is the only thing Tfrel does in this entire timespan. Look smart. But he isn't doing anything that helps town find mafia. I don't like it at all. I think this is the second? comment about it, first being my rayn if I remember correctly. Why the "Trfl looks smart" a bad thing? Last game here, he was on fire and caught all the mafia team. If you feel like that, pressure him to give you a list of players. I can add a third, I thought those Trfel posts were bad too. If I remember right, it was his first posts too, it looked like scum hiding between technicality/setup discussion to participate. I liked his posts going forward though, I think he's town now This is good I remember Tfrel apologizing a lot and saying "I am sorry" many times when he is town. I was trying to look for a scum game of him here but I couldnt, would be helpful if someone can link me. https://tl.net/forum/mafia/390080-tl-mafia-database#2find Trfel there.
A game from 2016 is useless
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On March 05 2024 05:44 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 05:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 05 2024 05:39 DarthPunk wrote:On March 05 2024 05:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 05 2024 05:30 DarthPunk wrote:
I have high expectations from JAT after he talked such a big game in the obs last time. He's doing fine so far. What specifically do you think he is doing well with? What is that question really, he has one post that is game related... Yes I know. Which is why I am asking.
It is an observation i also made, noone else seems to have made that.
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On March 05 2024 05:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 05:44 DarthPunk wrote:On March 05 2024 05:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 05 2024 05:39 DarthPunk wrote:On March 05 2024 05:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 05 2024 05:30 DarthPunk wrote:
I have high expectations from JAT after he talked such a big game in the obs last time. He's doing fine so far. What specifically do you think he is doing well with? What is that question really, he has one post that is game related... Yes I know. Which is why I am asking. It is an observation i also made, noone else seems to have made that.
Ok so it was sarcasm?
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On March 05 2024 05:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 05:44 Vivax wrote:
Rayn downplaying his mafia abilities is one fat red flag how have i done that? unless you mean comparison between me/marv/sandroba that i didnt understand
What don’t you understand about it?
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