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On March 05 2024 05:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 05:15 Rels wrote:On March 05 2024 05:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 05 2024 05:11 Rels wrote:On March 05 2024 05:09 sandroba wrote:On March 05 2024 05:06 Rels wrote:On March 05 2024 04:54 iamperfection wrote:On March 05 2024 04:53 iamperfection wrote:On March 05 2024 04:52 Rels wrote:On March 05 2024 04:44 iamperfection wrote:
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His running for mayor post On March 04 2024 14:43 VisceraEyes wrote:
Good morning everyone. It turns out I'm town for once so I apologize in advance for your own inability to read me and subsequent mislynch of me. I will endeavor to prevent it but I would do that as Mafia too so shrugz0rz.
I am running for mayor on a platform of lynching a lurker of my own choosing that is not subject to towns knowledge or influence.
A vote for VE is a vote for an active town.
Anyone who has posted so far is safe D1, for I am a kind and benevolent Lord. Meh, I don't really see it. Not that I think it's townie, but I don't see the insecurity? insincerity As in he isn't really running for mayor So the fact that he hasn't posted since his first spray of post? It makes him a lurker but I don't understand why it makes him scum Why are you fighting this so much? Do you have a better vote? 1. You call it fighting, I don't, it's called discussing. I don't have a townread on VE. I want to understand what he did that is considered scummy because I don't see it 2. And yeah, mine. I think ToTheStars has the highest chance of flipping scum if the deadline was right now On March 05 2024 05:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 05 2024 05:06 Rels wrote:On March 05 2024 04:54 iamperfection wrote:On March 05 2024 04:53 iamperfection wrote:On March 05 2024 04:52 Rels wrote:On March 05 2024 04:44 iamperfection wrote:On March 05 2024 04:43 Rels wrote:
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What post? His running for mayor post On March 04 2024 14:43 VisceraEyes wrote:
Good morning everyone. It turns out I'm town for once so I apologize in advance for your own inability to read me and subsequent mislynch of me. I will endeavor to prevent it but I would do that as Mafia too so shrugz0rz.
I am running for mayor on a platform of lynching a lurker of my own choosing that is not subject to towns knowledge or influence.
A vote for VE is a vote for an active town.
Anyone who has posted so far is safe D1, for I am a kind and benevolent Lord. Meh, I don't really see it. Not that I think it's townie, but I don't see the insecurity? insincerity As in he isn't really running for mayor So the fact that he hasn't posted since his first spray of post? It makes him a lurker but I don't understand why it makes him scum A vote for VE is a vote for active town. Emphasis on word active. I don't get it, please lay it out clearly. "Everyone should vote for VE so that he's pressured to actively play so that we can understand his alignement", is that what you're saying? VE ran his mayor campaign on the basis of "A vote for VE is a vote for active town", yet he has done jack shit or is even pretending on doing jack shit.
Oh yeah I see the irony now :p
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On March 05 2024 05:16 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 05:10 Alakaslam wrote:On March 05 2024 05:07 DarthPunk wrote:On March 05 2024 04:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 05 2024 04:31 Vivax wrote:On March 05 2024 04:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 05 2024 04:23 Vivax wrote:On March 05 2024 04:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 05 2024 04:19 die_meatbaby wrote:On March 05 2024 04:10 Alakaslam wrote:
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Isn't Koshi saying he suspects a fake claim from Vivax?
This would be because Vivax is usually very adverse to real claiming,
Which implies this is a gambit for mayor.
If Vivax wasn't under pressure, that is further evidence it was a gambit for mayor.
Where is my comprehension/logic problem? He is not fake claiming thats not what he would do. As I already know fake claiming always be exposed at some point and as he loves to play here on TL he would not risk a fake claim as scum and risking an early lynch. Just feels so wrong and it would be not comparable with any game I habe read of him. Maybe he is Town and claims so we get a town mayor but even that doesn´t seem like his meta Why would Vivax think we don't get town mayor as he thinks i am town? Correction: I currently think you are town. But I know I'm town. Yes but how does DMB come to conclusion that while you thinking i am town, you need to claim to have a town mayor? Because for me that seems like an insane thought process. No it's clear rationality. How do you protect the role that can't protect itself but other players? You make it mayor. They have to kill three randomly selected BGS before they can NK me. If we get the roleblocker I become a jailkeeper with medic protection. It's honestly mind boggling I have to explain. I understand your point. I really do. It just hinges on us getting the roleblocker where there is no guarantee on. Otherwise none of this matters because most likely there is nothing else to roleblock than you.... I don't usually live long as town. There is perhaps some logic to that. I am not sure if you know this but i am 11/4 in LYLO (let it be F-3, F-5, or F-7) situations. From those games, one is where i had the correct read and i just couldnt for my life convince Oats to vote for VA over me even when the mafia dude was voting for Oats (lol). One i got right but i still consider it a loss, because i think Art/rsoul slot cheated to get me townread them and DP was mafia (RSM2). So basically i am really fucking good when i live long enough. I just: 1) dont get to live long enough 2) dont have enough "decent people" around long enough Both of these can be avoided this game, (2) naturally and (1) by making me a mayor. I have never been lynched in LYLO as town, have you? Does it tell you anything about how you/me look to other people and who is more trusthworthy (if we assume we have good reads -- as i legit know you DO have good reads most of the time, later on in the game)? The only other player i would genuinely say is on par or even perhaps better than i am late game as town is marv. I have a 90% winrate in endgames bro. As town? Do you get to endgame as town often enough to be statistically significant? I don't disagree though. You're worth keeping around. Yes as town. And yes I tend to survive, cause for whatever reason mafia tend to think iI’m a good mislynch candidate. I have a lot better record as town than as mafia. Even though apparently everyone is afraid of my scum play.
Deservedly so. I believe you on this.
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On March 05 2024 05:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:and the only game you lost is when i was mafia with you and OO and we bussed each other really really hard and OO fucked up using the town credit of both other mafia voting for him D1 lol. It was hilarious. 
Hilarious is not how I would put it.
There was no reason for me to die day one that game, and I was on an 11 game win streak too.
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On March 05 2024 05:20 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 05:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 05 2024 05:16 DarthPunk wrote:On March 05 2024 05:10 Alakaslam wrote:On March 05 2024 05:07 DarthPunk wrote:On March 05 2024 04:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 05 2024 04:31 Vivax wrote:On March 05 2024 04:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 05 2024 04:23 Vivax wrote:On March 05 2024 04:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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Why would Vivax think we don't get town mayor as he thinks i am town? Correction: I currently think you are town. But I know I'm town. Yes but how does DMB come to conclusion that while you thinking i am town, you need to claim to have a town mayor? Because for me that seems like an insane thought process. No it's clear rationality. How do you protect the role that can't protect itself but other players? You make it mayor. They have to kill three randomly selected BGS before they can NK me. If we get the roleblocker I become a jailkeeper with medic protection. It's honestly mind boggling I have to explain. I understand your point. I really do. It just hinges on us getting the roleblocker where there is no guarantee on. Otherwise none of this matters because most likely there is nothing else to roleblock than you.... I don't usually live long as town. There is perhaps some logic to that. I am not sure if you know this but i am 11/4 in LYLO (let it be F-3, F-5, or F-7) situations. From those games, one is where i had the correct read and i just couldnt for my life convince Oats to vote for VA over me even when the mafia dude was voting for Oats (lol). One i got right but i still consider it a loss, because i think Art/rsoul slot cheated to get me townread them and DP was mafia (RSM2). So basically i am really fucking good when i live long enough. I just: 1) dont get to live long enough 2) dont have enough "decent people" around long enough Both of these can be avoided this game, (2) naturally and (1) by making me a mayor. I have never been lynched in LYLO as town, have you? Does it tell you anything about how you/me look to other people and who is more trusthworthy (if we assume we have good reads -- as i legit know you DO have good reads most of the time, later on in the game)? The only other player i would genuinely say is on par or even perhaps better than i am late game as town is marv. I have a 90% winrate in endgames bro. As town? Do you get to endgame as town often enough to be statistically significant? I don't disagree though. You're worth keeping around. Yes as town. And yes I tend to survive, cause for whatever reason mafia tend to think iI’m a good mislynch candidate. I have a lot better record as town than as mafia. Even though apparently everyone is afraid of my scum play. *ahem* pretty sure you are 11/12 as mafia on TL. I’m 6 of 10
Oh.. Where did i get that lol...
On March 05 2024 05:21 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 05:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:and the only game you lost is when i was mafia with you and OO and we bussed each other really really hard and OO fucked up using the town credit of both other mafia voting for him D1 lol. It was hilarious. Hilarious is not how I would put it. There was no reason for me to die day one that game, and I was on an 11 game win streak too.
It was perfect play if OO just knew how to capitalize, there was no reason he should have been lynched in LYLO.
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Also that game included coag shooting me N1 because "i think rayn is town he is just so annoying" lol ^_^
But i am happy i broke your win streak
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I am on page 25 right now and I am not getting anything out of it anymore.
Oats posts too much to be lynched today. I don't enjoy reading his posts but that doesn't make him mafia. I think he deserves time to develop his play due to activity.
Copcake is unreadable. I don't feel like she is hiding though. I just don't get what she is thinking yet.
tfrel I will filter right now. He is also in my null pile with all these people but the most in hiding.
Slam is being slam. Not going to go further into that. He can stay alive, but if rayn kills him I won't be upset.
mebaby made bad posts and a couple sensible posts after that doesn't change that. She is in red territory but won't be lynched most likely because she is active enough. (shouldn't be lynched d1 in such a big game imo)
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On March 05 2024 04:55 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 04:52 CopCake wrote:On March 05 2024 04:51 Vivax wrote:On March 05 2024 04:50 CopCake wrote:
Like, from a tracker and a watcher I understand.
But a blocker/doctor, smh.
Then why don't you want to make slam mayor? I dont think his claim was serious On what basis? We should lynch fakeclaims don't you agree?
I think you should lift Copcake from the floor rayn, the struggle is real.
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On March 05 2024 05:14 Koshi wrote:People who ask mundane questions to end their first visit to the thread should be lynched and or shot. New to mafia playbook: First throw out some not fleshed out reads to pretend they are helping town. Secondly ask a question so the thread helps them be active and do something because they don't know what to do as mafia. Seen it too much. Should be red throughout the game unless miracle play happens.
I think this is a good point. I said he was kind of abrasive for him to be scum but I certainly could have been wrong about that.
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Copcake to town, maybe.
Now vote VE.
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Yo, whats up? Been trying to catch up since I left work but the distance to the new posts doesn't seem to decrease at all...
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I tend to like the town circle for now.
The only one I’m really afraid of being mafia in that lot is Rayn
I think mz looked wayyyy better recently so I’m moving him to town for now.
Cake still looks bad.
Koshi looks townie to me. He has that level of arrogance that I felt was missing in his mafia game. I also sensed he was genuinely butthurt at not being in the town circle which I found hilarious but also townie.
Rels makes sense, he is wayyyy less aggressive than I remember but that is old old meta.
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On March 05 2024 05:26 justanothertownie wrote:
Yo, whats up? Been trying to catch up since I left work but the distance to the new posts doesn't seem to decrease at all...
Nice contribution
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On March 05 2024 05:26 justanothertownie wrote:
Yo, whats up? Been trying to catch up since I left work but the distance to the new posts doesn't seem to decrease at all...
Its good, just vote me for mayor and VE for lynch, we're all set.
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On March 05 2024 05:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:Also that game included coag shooting me N1 because "i think rayn is town he is just so annoying" lol ^_^ But i am happy i broke your win streak
Whyyyyy
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On March 05 2024 05:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 05:26 justanothertownie wrote:
Yo, whats up? Been trying to catch up since I left work but the distance to the new posts doesn't seem to decrease at all... Its good, just vote me for mayor and VE for lynch, we're all set.
no,yes
Counterclaim me if you want it
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On March 04 2024 13:38 die_meatbaby wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2024 13:28 DarthPunk wrote:On March 04 2024 13:23 iamperfection wrote:On March 04 2024 13:22 DarthPunk wrote:On March 04 2024 13:20 die_meatbaby wrote:On March 04 2024 13:18 DarthPunk wrote:On March 04 2024 13:02 die_meatbaby wrote:On March 04 2024 12:59 Vivax wrote:
I like Jacob shrugging it off that I found him a bit suspicious early, and I tend to read his writing style as scummy I think.
So for now I am at:
Maximum town: Me
Townish: DP, JS, iamp
Unsure: MZ
Very unsure: Trfel
Scummy : Oats
MZ is mayor competition and I believe would be an ideal mafia candidate. Can‘t pin much on him though. His focus pn conversing with Trfel is noteworthy.
Trfel seemed like he mistook MZ for me with the promise to vote Palmar. Strikes me as low confidence tone wise.
DP I think is actively looking for mafia already and I felt like I had a congruent thinking moment when it came to Oats. you got fooled by Dp´s mafia skills in your last game so I hope it doesn´t happen again if you are Maximum town Why do you talk to vivax like he is town here DMB? Sorry I will not use smileys again. #staytoxicnosmileys No that is not what I mean. Why if you think everyone is suspect do you talk to Vivax about him 'fooled' which implies he is town. i dont understand what your saying She says she hopes Vivax is not fooled again. It's weird because she is talking to him like he is town but has vocally argued against anyone being town. at the end she say's 'if you are super town'' or whatever, but it's just not the response that I would expect from DMB if she is hyper suspicious of everyone as she stated. something I learned in my first game is calling everbody scum doesn´t help to find scum and more importend Town even when I think everone is a suspect right now.
I guess you learned a little too hard, because reading your filter, I see almost 0 suspicion towards anyone. What are your reads towards anyone not named Vivax?
On March 04 2024 14:51 die_meatbaby wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2024 14:39 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 04 2024 14:39 die_meatbaby wrote:On March 04 2024 14:36 JacobStrangelove wrote:
That's just for the mayor choosing who they're killing. All other votes are public. But i want to see that too. Mafia will vote on the same scum person. Risk for having scum major is even higher what are you talking about At the some point we will discuss who we elect as mayor and of course there will also be a scum about what Town might choose. Mafia will discuss in the discord who has the best townreads up to that point and most likely has the best chances to be elected mayor. That's 5 votes on a scum person + probably one or two townies who might vote for that person. So the probability that the mayor is not tip top town but mafia is very high. And if the whole thing was public, not all 5 could vote for the same person because it would be too conspicuous
If that logic was true and as simple in reality, the scum team would also decide all votes lynches and there would be no game.
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On March 05 2024 05:27 DarthPunk wrote:
The only one I’m really afraid of being mafia in that lot is Rayn
Which would be, why?
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On March 05 2024 05:27 DarthPunk wrote:
I tend to like the town circle for now.
The only one I’m really afraid of being mafia in that lot is Rayn
I think mz looked wayyyy better recently so I’m moving him to town for now.
Cake still looks bad.
Koshi looks townie to me. He has that level of arrogance that I felt was missing in his mafia game. I also sensed he was genuinely butthurt at not being in the town circle which I found hilarious but also townie.
Rels makes sense, he is wayyyy less aggressive than I remember but that is old old meta.
You have a lot to learnnnnnnnnn
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Koshi, how come you dropped your whole emo/trying to be scumread shtick? Is it the mayor election?
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On March 04 2024 12:40 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2024 12:34 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 04 2024 12:31 Trfel wrote:On March 04 2024 12:28 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 04 2024 12:25 Trfel wrote:On March 04 2024 12:24 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 04 2024 12:19 Trfel wrote:On March 04 2024 12:16 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 04 2024 12:14 Trfel wrote:On March 04 2024 12:11 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
hbd Trfel,
I'm thinking of running for mayor, we haven't had mayor elections in a looong time (or I haven't played in a game with mayor elections in a long time). May I ask, why should we vote for you as mayor? Well first off I didn't say pregame I'd vote for Palmar and then change my mind once the game started. Secondly I don't think I've ever been a mayor before. Thirdly I pledge to make my personal lynch a town lynch and will select whoever is the second in votes at the end of the day. Seems like an easy way to avoid the responsibility of the results of said lynch, no? And I don't understand why saying pregame that you would vote for Palmar and then changing your mind is a reason we should make you mayor? I was making a joke about Vivax saying he was going to autovote Palmar pregame and then immediately changed his mind. Imo the Mayor KP is town KP, not a oneshot Day vig. It's not about avoiding responsibility it's about giving the town a chance to pull a 2for1 on D1. Actually I'll cement that point, if I'm not going to win the mayor vote at the end of the day, I'm not going to vote for someone who hasn't also pledged to have the town decide the lynch. I don't think the second wagon is a "town lynch" at all. In fact there's a decent likelihood that the second wagon would be pushed by mafia, no? That's assuming the first lynch is scum which D1 imo is a crap shoot, it's just as likely to be town pushed by mafia and the runner up is the scum, hence the double tap. TL towns are like barely 50% for D1 scum lynches iirc. You're still ignoring the possibility that both are town. My point is, just because "town" votes for something doesn't make it the best play. I'm not saying you have to go for a hero play or something, but just that automatically lynching the top two instead of the top one isn't necessarily a good idea. If both are town then we'll have played a colossally trash D1 and I wouldn't be trusting my own read anymore than I trust any other individual on D1. There's something to be said for wisdom of the crowds. There's almost nothing to be said for wisdom of the crowds, that's the point. It's 16 vs 5, the whole point is that wisdom of the crowds is really ineffective, that's how the game works.
The problem with this entire conversation is that Tfrel looks smart and MZ bad.
But it is the only thing Tfrel does in this entire timespan.
Look smart.
But he isn't doing anything that helps town find mafia.
I don't like it at all.
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