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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
March 16 2024 14:15 GMT
#9221
MZ can you bring me through your thought process here.

On March 09 2024 08:46 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2024 08:43 iamperfection wrote:
On March 09 2024 08:36 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 09 2024 08:31 iamperfection wrote:
On March 09 2024 08:30 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 09 2024 08:28 iamperfection wrote:
On March 09 2024 07:32 Palmar wrote:
Like I think you've done everything right if you're town Oats, and if you're mafia massive kudos for wool stuff. I am NEVER lynching you here without a red check.

I'll stick around for a little bit while doing other stuff, but I'm just not confident enough in my reads to actually move somewhere else. I think.

he says this and then votes VE ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

I mean he also says this just prior:
On March 09 2024 07:27 Palmar wrote:
On March 09 2024 07:25 Oatsmaster wrote:
Hey look Palmar Sandro thought i was town too.
Just like for your records
On March 06 2024 11:00 sandroba wrote:
oats is very townie imo


Yeah I know

I'm like this close to saying fuck math and changing my opinion.

But you did make a case on me, which looks bad for you. Not sure I should blame you for that though.

Like I'm almost tempted to just fucking lynch slam lol

The only solid thing he told me in our chat is that his vote was for the lulz but maybe he just doesn't want to justify changing his mind and going with his gut?

did he really say that voting for the lulz

Yes.

I wasted the whisper so hard.

That said, his decision to park his vote on VE instead of just throwing it on someone random like copcake sits a little better with me, assuming VE is scum, because now the vote count is pretty close and I can't imagine if he was scum with VE he'd risk that.

well if all 3 were scum it wouldn't matter

I actually am pretty set on copcake being scum at the moment, her votes are just horrible for a townie. It begs the question why doesn't she want to be on Oats.

I think of those three Palmar is least likely to be scum.

Then about 30 min later you vote for VE.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
March 16 2024 14:26 GMT
#9222
On March 16 2024 19:31 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2024 11:21 iamperfection wrote:
I think Palmar just has to be mafia. I have listed the reasons several times and i just keep wifoming myself out of it. His reactions to the CC flip just adds to it he had no real thoughts or analysis to make as he isn't interested in figuring things out.

This is the kinda shit that keeps you out of my towncircle.

Of course I have no reaction. I "knew" she was town and I was highly annoyed at her. The people who I feel in hindsight swung the lynch onto her (DP/Vivax) are my town circle people so while I don't quite understand why they did it after all the dick move analysis, I don't think this warrants looking into them.

DP shot mafia. He gets to be alive until lylo. That is the earliest I think he should be looked into.
Vivax is a bed we kinda made on day 1, but there are additional reasons to think he may be town. I liked his early posting, and I don't think he does the whole paranoia thing as mafia.

So why are my "reactions to the cc flip" bad? There is nothing to learn. We lynched a townie who everyone thought was town.

The only way it actually becomes interesting if we confirm Jealous is mafia. But that would be a pre-flip association and you know how I feel about even post-flip associations.


I dont really give a shit about your town circle palmar. if you want to call me mafia you need to refute this https://tl.net/forum/mafia/621454-a-classy-game-of-mafia?page=395#7899 otherwise im not gonna even entertain the discussion.

My problem once again is that i feel like its pulling teeth from you to get attempts to discover mafia. You basically ignore all my larger points.

Lets pretend you are town. I know i am town. I think the corrupt mayor theory isnt right so vivax is town.

On March 09 2024 11:52 Grackaroni wrote:
Day Two Vote Count

Oatsmaster (9): Alakaslam, Jealous, JacobStrangelove, Rels, Meapak_Ziphh, iamperfection, DarthPunk, die_meatbaby, CopCake, Justanothertownie, ToTheStars, Koshi, marvellosity, JacobStrangelove, Alakaslam
VisceraEyes (7): Koshi, Oatsmaster, iamperfection, Vivax, Palmar, Alakaslam, Meapak_Ziphh, iamperfection, CopCake
Palmar (0): Oatsmaster, CopCake, iamperfection, JacobStrangelove, CopCake
Jealous (0): CopCake
Justanothertownie (0): Vivax, Oatsmaster
ToTheStars (0): iamperfection, Oatsmaster
marvellosity (0): Vivax
die_meatbaby (0): Oatsmaster
VisceraEyes (0): iamperfection
CopCake (0): Jealous

Not Voting (1): VisceraEyes

With 9 votes, Oatsmaster is currently set to be lynched!

The deadline is Saturday, Mar 09 3:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in



Are we suggesting that 4 mafia were on the oats wagon? I dont think that is likely. I really would like the detail summary of that discord in full because i think it just has to be mz and palmar are mafia together the more i think about it.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
March 16 2024 14:42 GMT
#9223
and dp i really dont understand why you liked that post from palmar.

What do you think of my thoughts on the that d2 vote count.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
March 16 2024 15:05 GMT
#9224
On March 16 2024 12:11 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2024 08:30 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 09 2024 08:28 iamperfection wrote:
On March 09 2024 07:32 Palmar wrote:
Like I think you've done everything right if you're town Oats, and if you're mafia massive kudos for wool stuff. I am NEVER lynching you here without a red check.

I'll stick around for a little bit while doing other stuff, but I'm just not confident enough in my reads to actually move somewhere else. I think.

he says this and then votes VE ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

I mean he also says this just prior:
On March 09 2024 07:27 Palmar wrote:
On March 09 2024 07:25 Oatsmaster wrote:
Hey look Palmar Sandro thought i was town too.
Just like for your records
On March 06 2024 11:00 sandroba wrote:
oats is very townie imo


Yeah I know

I'm like this close to saying fuck math and changing my opinion.

But you did make a case on me, which looks bad for you. Not sure I should blame you for that though.

Like I'm almost tempted to just fucking lynch slam lol

The only solid thing he told me in our chat is that his vote was for the lulz but maybe he just doesn't want to justify changing his mind and going with his gut?

Maybe meapak cant be with palmar with this post.

i forget about this though. that post possible for both scum?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10141 Posts
March 16 2024 15:17 GMT
#9225
On March 16 2024 20:55 DarthPunk wrote:
Can you let us know who you mason please jealous?

Just woke up, still debating who to choose.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
March 16 2024 15:30 GMT
#9226
Where‘s rels we need the homme au naturale to give us more reads
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
March 16 2024 15:40 GMT
#9227
On March 17 2024 00:17 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2024 20:55 DarthPunk wrote:
Can you let us know who you mason please jealous?

Just woke up, still debating who to choose.

I am not sure that there is a lot of merit in this mason chat for you today. I would prefer to have your thoughts and contributions in the thread if you are town.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
March 16 2024 15:41 GMT
#9228
can all of you comment on my reasoning above.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
March 16 2024 15:43 GMT
#9229
Finally came around to tr jat at least.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
March 16 2024 15:45 GMT
#9230
Iamperfection I‘d be okay with Palmar I think
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10141 Posts
March 16 2024 15:55 GMT
#9231
On March 17 2024 00:40 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2024 00:17 Jealous wrote:
On March 16 2024 20:55 DarthPunk wrote:
Can you let us know who you mason please jealous?

Just woke up, still debating who to choose.

I am not sure that there is a lot of merit in this mason chat for you today. I would prefer to have your thoughts and contributions in the thread if you are town.

This is kinda my thinking too tbh. I'm kinda worried that the mason chat, at least the way I approach it, will only serve to make me feel someone is more townie due to the mere exposure effect even if it not objectively deserved.

I'm looking into something at the moment and will be posting stuff I find along the way that isn't relevant to my main research target.

For example - and of course, these are basically D1 reads, blah blah - DP's EoN1 list post has three out of four confirmed town in the scum pile + DMB:
https://tl.net/forum/mafia/621454-a-classy-game-of-mafia?page=188#3755

Oats is "Do Not Lynch" tier, too. So is Palmar and iamperfection.

Personally I don't think I can ascribe too much AI into this, but it is interesting how much things have changed since then.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
March 16 2024 15:59 GMT
#9232
Can you comment on my above reasoning jealous.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10141 Posts
March 16 2024 16:01 GMT
#9233
On March 17 2024 00:59 iamperfection wrote:
Can you comment on my above reasoning jealous.

Could you clarify who the 4 scum on Oats would be in this context? Want to make sure because between the post and the linked post, there are a lot of names.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
March 16 2024 16:05 GMT
#9234
On March 17 2024 01:01 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2024 00:59 iamperfection wrote:
Can you comment on my above reasoning jealous.

Could you clarify who the 4 scum on Oats would be in this context? Want to make sure because between the post and the linked post, there are a lot of names.

Im basically saying there has to be scum on the ve wagon besides oats.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
March 16 2024 16:07 GMT
#9235
and i dont think its vivax and its obviously not me so therefore one of palmar mz has to be mafia if not both.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
March 16 2024 16:12 GMT
#9236
On March 17 2024 01:05 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2024 01:01 Jealous wrote:
On March 17 2024 00:59 iamperfection wrote:
Can you comment on my above reasoning jealous.

Could you clarify who the 4 scum on Oats would be in this context? Want to make sure because between the post and the linked post, there are a lot of names.

Im basically saying there has to be scum on the ve wagon besides oats.



Why ? Don‘t think it‘s the case.
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10141 Posts
March 16 2024 16:12 GMT
#9237
On March 17 2024 01:07 iamperfection wrote:
and i dont think its vivax and its obviously not me so therefore one of palmar mz has to be mafia if not both.


I think it is likely that there is at least one.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
March 16 2024 16:13 GMT
#9238
I mean I don‘t think its the case for it to be a specific amount.
Maybe 1, maybe 2
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
March 16 2024 16:15 GMT
#9239
On March 17 2024 01:13 Vivax wrote:
I mean I don‘t think its the case for it to be a specific amount.
Maybe 1, maybe 2

you think mafia killed oats when they could have lynched ve ?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
March 16 2024 16:17 GMT
#9240
On March 17 2024 01:15 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2024 01:13 Vivax wrote:
I mean I don‘t think its the case for it to be a specific amount.
Maybe 1, maybe 2

you think mafia killed oats when they could have lynched ve ?


If you think about it that way you create more questions than you are able to answer
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