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Vote jealous ?
Won‘t have time to gathere a lot more votes at work soon.
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Anything else is just gifting him the win tbh
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i mean from that log mz has to be town right? At the very least they cant be mafia together. Its blatant rule breaking either way.
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On March 17 2024 02:19 iamperfection wrote:
i mean from that log mz has to be town right? At the very least they cant be mafia together. Its blatant rule breaking either way.
Yeah we ran out of town breaking rules to stop us from lynching Jealous
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On March 16 2024 23:15 iamperfection wrote:MZ can you bring me through your thought process here. Show nested quote +On March 09 2024 08:46 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 09 2024 08:43 iamperfection wrote:On March 09 2024 08:36 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 09 2024 08:31 iamperfection wrote:On March 09 2024 08:30 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 09 2024 08:28 iamperfection wrote:On March 09 2024 07:32 Palmar wrote:
Like I think you've done everything right if you're town Oats, and if you're mafia massive kudos for wool stuff. I am NEVER lynching you here without a red check.
I'll stick around for a little bit while doing other stuff, but I'm just not confident enough in my reads to actually move somewhere else. I think. he says this and then votes VE ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? I mean he also says this just prior: On March 09 2024 07:27 Palmar wrote:On March 09 2024 07:25 Oatsmaster wrote:Hey look Palmar Sandro thought i was town too. Just like for your records On March 06 2024 11:00 sandroba wrote:
oats is very townie imo Yeah I know I'm like this close to saying fuck math and changing my opinion. But you did make a case on me, which looks bad for you. Not sure I should blame you for that though. Like I'm almost tempted to just fucking lynch slam lol The only solid thing he told me in our chat is that his vote was for the lulz but maybe he just doesn't want to justify changing his mind and going with his gut? did he really say that voting for the lulz Yes. I wasted the whisper so hard. That said, his decision to park his vote on VE instead of just throwing it on someone random like copcake sits a little better with me, assuming VE is scum, because now the vote count is pretty close and I can't imagine if he was scum with VE he'd risk that. well if all 3 were scum it wouldn't matter I actually am pretty set on copcake being scum at the moment, her votes are just horrible for a townie. It begs the question why doesn't she want to be on Oats. I think of those three Palmar is least likely to be scum. Then about 30 min later you vote for VE.
I'm guessing you just read my filter and not the thread context, this was during the Oats/VE lynch shenanigans. I believe Copcake had called Oats scum but was deadset on voting for Jealous
On March 09 2024 08:25 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Copcake still voting jealous is super weird to me, she insists on being on wagons of her own. Day 1 she stayed on JSL as well.
On March 09 2024 08:27 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
If she actually cared about not lynching Oats, VE already had to votes on him when she voted jealous. Instead she just yeets her vote out a window.
Given that I was scum on CC very strongly at this point, and also based on Koshi's comment that the framer only had to target Slam's reads, I started to seriously doubt the red check at that point. The vibe I was getting at that point was that CC had TMI that Oats was going to flip town hence her weird reasoning for her throw away vote on Jealous.
On March 09 2024 09:21 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I went to the store and got some groceries and realized pretty much every realistic scum team scenario I was trying to figure out did not contain Oats but definitely included VE.
And yes, my math was also wrong.
I talked myself into the VE wagon over Oats at that point.
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On March 17 2024 02:07 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2024 02:05 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 16 2024 22:54 iamperfection wrote:Mz can you give a full summary of your discord with palmar. How many posts overall were there too. MZ: Hey Palmar I'm leaning town on you so I masoned you to try and solidify that MZ: Can you give more opinions on Marv in the thread bc I read him as town when hes scum and scum when hes town MZ: between you and me do you have any opinions on JAT bc people are reading him as town and I came to a rushed conclusion yesterday MZ: I agree with this post https://tl.net/forum/mafia/621454-a-classy-game-of-mafia?page=168#3344MZ: we're in different time zones, but do you have any thoughts on CC's response to Slam's check Palmar: Do I have to read that Palmar: Wanna claim a blue role to me MZ: Not gonna go full rayn MZ: any read of koshi and his stuff this cycle MZ: disregard Koshi, I let his stuff from the morning bleed into Vivax's posts now, still would love a Marv insight MZ: You're lurking an awful lot this game Palmar: I voted JAT day 1, of course I have suspicions Palmar: I consistently called Koshi town MZ: You are forgettable and recent contributions don't look fantastic MZ: I get you're not keeping up with the thread but damn Palmar: Relax I'm town MZ: I see you voted VE Palmar: Did you like my case on rayn Palmar: Yeah for the lulz MZ: I made a post about the math that I used not working out and I cited you who also posted math MZ: Koshi can be kinda right here MZ: Scum only have to target slams reads list to successfully frame, also might be why slam is alive That's it. i TOLD YOU TO SUMMARIZE
It is summarized
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Every single player in this game should be on him with what he posted after copcakes lynch
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On March 17 2024 02:23 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2024 02:07 iamperfection wrote:On March 17 2024 02:05 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 16 2024 22:54 iamperfection wrote:Mz can you give a full summary of your discord with palmar. How many posts overall were there too. MZ: Hey Palmar I'm leaning town on you so I masoned you to try and solidify that MZ: Can you give more opinions on Marv in the thread bc I read him as town when hes scum and scum when hes town MZ: between you and me do you have any opinions on JAT bc people are reading him as town and I came to a rushed conclusion yesterday MZ: I agree with this post https://tl.net/forum/mafia/621454-a-classy-game-of-mafia?page=168#3344MZ: we're in different time zones, but do you have any thoughts on CC's response to Slam's check Palmar: Do I have to read that Palmar: Wanna claim a blue role to me MZ: Not gonna go full rayn MZ: any read of koshi and his stuff this cycle MZ: disregard Koshi, I let his stuff from the morning bleed into Vivax's posts now, still would love a Marv insight MZ: You're lurking an awful lot this game Palmar: I voted JAT day 1, of course I have suspicions Palmar: I consistently called Koshi town MZ: You are forgettable and recent contributions don't look fantastic MZ: I get you're not keeping up with the thread but damn Palmar: Relax I'm town MZ: I see you voted VE Palmar: Did you like my case on rayn Palmar: Yeah for the lulz MZ: I made a post about the math that I used not working out and I cited you who also posted math MZ: Koshi can be kinda right here MZ: Scum only have to target slams reads list to successfully frame, also might be why slam is alive That's it. i TOLD YOU TO SUMMARIZE It is summarized
how is that a summary
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On March 17 2024 02:19 iamperfection wrote:
i mean from that log mz has to be town right? At the very least they cant be mafia together. Its blatant rule breaking either way.
How did I break the rules?
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On March 17 2024 02:24 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2024 02:19 iamperfection wrote:
i mean from that log mz has to be town right? At the very least they cant be mafia together. Its blatant rule breaking either way. How did I break the rules?
He thought it was copied over
Some of you guys play like you‘re in a spoiled chat somewhere and here you‘re just pretending
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On February 22 2024 14:27 Grackaroni wrote:Setup In addition to the usual roles, I will be adding mason chats into this game. At the start of each day I will randomize 2 players to become the whisperers for the cycle. They will be informed of this via PM. These players may (or may choose not to) PM me the name of one player to obtain a Discord chat with them for the rest of the day/night cycle. You may paraphrase discussions that occur, but you may not copy paste the log into the thread. Once the players reduce to 13 or less there will only be 1 whisperer.
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On March 17 2024 02:24 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2024 02:23 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 17 2024 02:07 iamperfection wrote:On March 17 2024 02:05 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 16 2024 22:54 iamperfection wrote:Mz can you give a full summary of your discord with palmar. How many posts overall were there too. MZ: Hey Palmar I'm leaning town on you so I masoned you to try and solidify that MZ: Can you give more opinions on Marv in the thread bc I read him as town when hes scum and scum when hes town MZ: between you and me do you have any opinions on JAT bc people are reading him as town and I came to a rushed conclusion yesterday MZ: I agree with this post https://tl.net/forum/mafia/621454-a-classy-game-of-mafia?page=168#3344MZ: we're in different time zones, but do you have any thoughts on CC's response to Slam's check Palmar: Do I have to read that Palmar: Wanna claim a blue role to me MZ: Not gonna go full rayn MZ: any read of koshi and his stuff this cycle MZ: disregard Koshi, I let his stuff from the morning bleed into Vivax's posts now, still would love a Marv insight MZ: You're lurking an awful lot this game Palmar: I voted JAT day 1, of course I have suspicions Palmar: I consistently called Koshi town MZ: You are forgettable and recent contributions don't look fantastic MZ: I get you're not keeping up with the thread but damn Palmar: Relax I'm town MZ: I see you voted VE Palmar: Did you like my case on rayn Palmar: Yeah for the lulz MZ: I made a post about the math that I used not working out and I cited you who also posted math MZ: Koshi can be kinda right here MZ: Scum only have to target slams reads list to successfully frame, also might be why slam is alive That's it. i TOLD YOU TO SUMMARIZE It is summarized how is that a summary
I truncated the stuff down combined some stuff for readability, honestly don't see how this is different from what other logs people have posted. I didn't copy paste it.
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so your saying all of those lines aren't exact quotes ?
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On March 17 2024 02:26 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2024 14:27 Grackaroni wrote:Setup In addition to the usual roles, I will be adding mason chats into this game. At the start of each day I will randomize 2 players to become the whisperers for the cycle. They will be informed of this via PM. These players may (or may choose not to) PM me the name of one player to obtain a Discord chat with them for the rest of the day/night cycle. You may paraphrase discussions that occur, but you may not copy paste the log into the thread. Once the players reduce to 13 or less there will only be 1 whisperer.
I did not copy paste.
I paraphrased. We just literally did not talk about much of anything.
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On March 17 2024 02:28 iamperfection wrote:
so your saying all of those lines aren't exact quotes ?
Some of them are most are not, there's really not that much going on in that chat. The whole problem with copy pasting with timestamps and usernames and stuff is that it guarantees the authenticity of the log, you have no way of knowing that this log is authentic because it's not copy/pasted from discord. I know you feel that it's authentic because it's pretty much exactly how Palmar and I both characterized it, but Palmar is free to show up and say I misrepresented something I said or something he said and then it's just a he said/he said game.
I don't know why you're so bent out of shape with this, Jealous and DP's log had way more stuff in it, did you miss that one?
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Iamp I gave you and DP the copcake lynch and regretted it deeply.
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On March 16 2024 23:26 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2024 19:31 Palmar wrote:On March 16 2024 11:21 iamperfection wrote:
I think Palmar just has to be mafia. I have listed the reasons several times and i just keep wifoming myself out of it. His reactions to the CC flip just adds to it he had no real thoughts or analysis to make as he isn't interested in figuring things out. This is the kinda shit that keeps you out of my towncircle. Of course I have no reaction. I "knew" she was town and I was highly annoyed at her. The people who I feel in hindsight swung the lynch onto her (DP/Vivax) are my town circle people so while I don't quite understand why they did it after all the dick move analysis, I don't think this warrants looking into them. DP shot mafia. He gets to be alive until lylo. That is the earliest I think he should be looked into. Vivax is a bed we kinda made on day 1, but there are additional reasons to think he may be town. I liked his early posting, and I don't think he does the whole paranoia thing as mafia. So why are my "reactions to the cc flip" bad? There is nothing to learn. We lynched a townie who everyone thought was town. The only way it actually becomes interesting if we confirm Jealous is mafia. But that would be a pre-flip association and you know how I feel about even post-flip associations. I dont really give a shit about your town circle palmar. if you want to call me mafia you need to refute this https://tl.net/forum/mafia/621454-a-classy-game-of-mafia?page=395#7899 otherwise im not gonna even entertain the discussion. My problem once again is that i feel like its pulling teeth from you to get attempts to discover mafia. You basically ignore all my larger points. Lets pretend you are town. I know i am town. I think the corrupt mayor theory isnt right so vivax is town. Show nested quote +On March 09 2024 11:52 Grackaroni wrote:
Day Two Vote Count
Oatsmaster (9): Alakaslam, Jealous, JacobStrangelove, Rels, Meapak_Ziphh, iamperfection, DarthPunk, die_meatbaby, CopCake, Justanothertownie, ToTheStars, Koshi, marvellosity, JacobStrangelove, Alakaslam
VisceraEyes (7): Koshi, Oatsmaster, iamperfection, Vivax, Palmar, Alakaslam, Meapak_Ziphh, iamperfection, CopCake
Palmar (0): Oatsmaster, CopCake, iamperfection, JacobStrangelove, CopCake
Jealous (0): CopCake
Justanothertownie (0): Vivax, Oatsmaster
ToTheStars (0): iamperfection, Oatsmaster
marvellosity (0): Vivax
die_meatbaby (0): Oatsmaster
VisceraEyes (0): iamperfection
CopCake (0): Jealous
Not Voting (1): VisceraEyes
With 9 votes, Oatsmaster is currently set to be lynched!
The deadline is Saturday, Mar 09 3:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in
Are we suggesting that 4 mafia were on the oats wagon? I dont think that is likely. I really would like the detail summary of that discord in full because i think it just has to be mz and palmar are mafia together the more i think about it.
I do not think there necessarily has to be mafia on VE - if there is then maybe MZ. If the lynch goes through and VE flips town Oats will just be killed the day after and everyone who took part looks absolutely terrible. It would only postpone the result for no real gain.
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On March 17 2024 02:35 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2024 02:28 iamperfection wrote:
so your saying all of those lines aren't exact quotes ? Some of them are most are not, there's really not that much going on in that chat. The whole problem with copy pasting with timestamps and usernames and stuff is that it guarantees the authenticity of the log, you have no way of knowing that this log is authentic because it's not copy/pasted from discord. I know you feel that it's authentic because it's pretty much exactly how Palmar and I both characterized it, but Palmar is free to show up and say I misrepresented something I said or something he said and then it's just a he said/he said game. I don't know why you're so bent out of shape with this, Jealous and DP's log had way more stuff in it, did you miss that one?
Don't worry about it. You are fine. Iamp is just concerned about game integrity, which is also fine. Nothing alignment indicative to find here. Carry on.
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