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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 14 2024 19:40 GMT
#8341
On March 15 2024 04:37 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2024 04:23 Koshi wrote:
On March 09 2024 11:51 Grackaroni wrote:
Day Two Vote Count

Oatsmaster (9): Alakaslam, Jealous, JacobStrangelove, Rels, Meapak_Ziphh, iamperfection, DarthPunk, die_meatbaby, CopCake, Justanothertownie, ToTheStars, Koshi, marvellosity, JacobStrangelove, Alakaslam
VisceraEyes (7): Koshi, Oatsmaster, iamperfection, Vivax, Palmar, Alakaslam, Meapak_Ziphh, iamperfection, CopCake
Palmar (0): Oatsmaster, CopCake, iamperfection, JacobStrangelove, CopCake
Jealous (0): CopCake
Justanothertownie (0): Vivax, Oatsmaster
ToTheStars (0): iamperfection, Oatsmaster
marvellosity (0): Vivax
die_meatbaby (0): Oatsmaster
VisceraEyes (0): iamperfection
CopCake (0): Jealous

Not Voting (1): VisceraEyes

With 9 votes, Oatsmaster is currently set to be lynched!

The deadline is Saturday, Mar 09 3:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in



I am so fucking suspicious of both Palmar (Jealous Rels) and JAT (DMB and was ot also Jealous?) wanting or scumreading 2 people on Oats.


Iamp and Oats ended up voting for the same person twice.

Yes. I know. iamp saved you CC. And if he is mafia, and youbtown, he wouldnt have saved you. VE was always getting lynched and caused the thread to be deadish on scumhunting.

Iamp saving you over VE is extremely townie.
I had a good night of sleep.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
March 14 2024 19:40 GMT
#8342
On March 15 2024 04:37 Palmar wrote:
Remember that a lot of mafia play with constant fear of doing anything stupid and anti-town. It's one of the things that has kept a bunch of people alive this game.

This applies to voting too. Mafia has no idea if town chickens out of killing VE if he actually takes the lead. and as the wagon on VE grows, they ABSOLUTELY do not want to be the ones delivering the hammer blow on a townie over a red check. Only the very, very best mafia players take that challenge.

^^^^
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
March 14 2024 19:41 GMT
#8343
On March 15 2024 04:39 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2024 04:35 CopCake wrote:
On March 15 2024 02:57 CopCake wrote:
On March 15 2024 02:51 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 15 2024 02:43 CopCake wrote:
On March 15 2024 00:50 iamperfection wrote:
I mean at just a surface level they have been all over the place. Making ridiculous statements but also almost begging to be lynched. Dosnt seem like the most likely scum mindset to me the more I think about it. Yes it's possible but the more and more I think it makes me think CC has a likelihood to be town.


You say this but yes, there is a problem.

I am a wild card.

If I am alive I am a question mark, a red one.

If I die, who is the mafia?

I think that is the question that everyone should be asking because so far in many worlds I am mafia, just like VE and Tfrel for NOT TRYING ENOUGH OMG.

VE is so inactive
Cake doesnt make sense and is insane
I am going to make a case on DMB about how many times she has said fucking in the thread
Tfrel is not stepping up his game

Are these good reasons to lynch?

This looks more of a "I am lynching you because I am better than you" game.

That is why I think I should get lynched. For town´s sake.

Who knows, people might get a surprise.


Cake I'm gonna be real with you and this may be a little blunt.

You need to get over this/yourself and just play. Most people are not scum reading you anymore. Your martyr play worked. Stop trying to get yourself lynched. If you are town, you are actively playing against your wincon and its really obnoxious. This game gets hostile at times sure but nothing in the thread this game has been over the top.

There are two wagons going right now. Neither of them are you. Stop talking about yourself and start trying to find scum. Stop talking about VE and yourself and the lynch yesterday, that's done. Unless you think you can draw conclusions from it to find scum, just move on.

I've been defending you and I'm getting tired of it.

I'm not trying to be rude, you need to break out of whatever mindset you're in and focus on finding scum.


What do you make of Iamp saving me? Because I am not satisfied with that answer.

What do you think of these sequence:

Post #128

On March 07 2024 23:45 Grackaroni wrote:
Day Two Vote Count

Oatsmaster (10): Alakaslam, Jealous, JacobStrangelove, Rels, Meapak_Ziphh, iamperfection, DarthPunk, die_meatbaby, CopCake, Justanothertownie
die_meatbaby (1): Oatsmaster
VisceraEyes (0): iamperfection
CopCake (0): Jealous

Not Voting (6): Vivax, marvellosity, Palmar, Koshi, ToTheStars, VisceraEyes

With 10 votes, Oatsmaster is currently set to be lynched!

The deadline is Saturday, Mar 09 3:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in




And what did IAMP did on post #129?
On March 08 2024 00:47 iamperfection wrote:
##unvote
##vote ToTheStars



and who followed?
On March 08 2024 01:14 Oatsmaster wrote:
##unvote
##vote tts


And there are more votes that look synchronized. I can unserstand people like Jacob and Slam sheeping, but there are too many votes that look... bad.







What do you think of this JAT? Is it NAI?

I am currently reading his filter. Hard to say. I do not think saving you makes him town if you are town (I do give him townpoints for it though - I think mafia would have rather lynched you than VE, who they could just easily mislynch at any point). Obviously if you are mafia it is pretty bad. I do not believe it means a lot that Oats followed his vote there.


I want to believe VE would have gone berserker mode lol
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 14 2024 19:42 GMT
#8344
On March 15 2024 04:41 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2024 04:39 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 15 2024 04:35 CopCake wrote:
On March 15 2024 02:57 CopCake wrote:
On March 15 2024 02:51 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 15 2024 02:43 CopCake wrote:
On March 15 2024 00:50 iamperfection wrote:
I mean at just a surface level they have been all over the place. Making ridiculous statements but also almost begging to be lynched. Dosnt seem like the most likely scum mindset to me the more I think about it. Yes it's possible but the more and more I think it makes me think CC has a likelihood to be town.


You say this but yes, there is a problem.

I am a wild card.

If I am alive I am a question mark, a red one.

If I die, who is the mafia?

I think that is the question that everyone should be asking because so far in many worlds I am mafia, just like VE and Tfrel for NOT TRYING ENOUGH OMG.

VE is so inactive
Cake doesnt make sense and is insane
I am going to make a case on DMB about how many times she has said fucking in the thread
Tfrel is not stepping up his game

Are these good reasons to lynch?

This looks more of a "I am lynching you because I am better than you" game.

That is why I think I should get lynched. For town´s sake.

Who knows, people might get a surprise.


Cake I'm gonna be real with you and this may be a little blunt.

You need to get over this/yourself and just play. Most people are not scum reading you anymore. Your martyr play worked. Stop trying to get yourself lynched. If you are town, you are actively playing against your wincon and its really obnoxious. This game gets hostile at times sure but nothing in the thread this game has been over the top.

There are two wagons going right now. Neither of them are you. Stop talking about yourself and start trying to find scum. Stop talking about VE and yourself and the lynch yesterday, that's done. Unless you think you can draw conclusions from it to find scum, just move on.

I've been defending you and I'm getting tired of it.

I'm not trying to be rude, you need to break out of whatever mindset you're in and focus on finding scum.


What do you make of Iamp saving me? Because I am not satisfied with that answer.

What do you think of these sequence:

Post #128

On March 07 2024 23:45 Grackaroni wrote:
Day Two Vote Count

Oatsmaster (10): Alakaslam, Jealous, JacobStrangelove, Rels, Meapak_Ziphh, iamperfection, DarthPunk, die_meatbaby, CopCake, Justanothertownie
die_meatbaby (1): Oatsmaster
VisceraEyes (0): iamperfection
CopCake (0): Jealous

Not Voting (6): Vivax, marvellosity, Palmar, Koshi, ToTheStars, VisceraEyes

With 10 votes, Oatsmaster is currently set to be lynched!

The deadline is Saturday, Mar 09 3:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in




And what did IAMP did on post #129?
On March 08 2024 00:47 iamperfection wrote:
##unvote
##vote ToTheStars



and who followed?
On March 08 2024 01:14 Oatsmaster wrote:
##unvote
##vote tts


And there are more votes that look synchronized. I can unserstand people like Jacob and Slam sheeping, but there are too many votes that look... bad.







What do you think of this JAT? Is it NAI?

I am currently reading his filter. Hard to say. I do not think saving you makes him town if you are town (I do give him townpoints for it though - I think mafia would have rather lynched you than VE, who they could just easily mislynch at any point). Obviously if you are mafia it is pretty bad. I do not believe it means a lot that Oats followed his vote there.


I want to believe VE would have gone berserker mode lol

He wasn't going to. I've played with VE as town when he tries, multiple times. I don't know why he didn't want to play this game. He was just demotivated for some reason.
Computer says mafia
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 14 2024 19:42 GMT
#8345
I am locked boys. You have to convince Vivax/DP/iamp etc.

For me mafia is

JAT/Palmar/MZ

Locked and loaded till the end..
418 pages. I dont need to post anything else anymore.
I had a good night of sleep.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
March 14 2024 19:43 GMT
#8346
On March 15 2024 04:36 Koshi wrote:
I really think this is it.
JAT mafia explains the Oats moving away D1. MZ and Oats coming in later.
MZ sat a bit wrong with me around the dmb and CC stuf. He saw the light suddenly on Oats and that actually pinged me back then.
Palmar is just unholy incarnated. And with his demon friend JAT tjey are pushing dead and decay into this thread.

We put JAT and Palmar with their backs to the wall. They weaseled themselves back in, showed "effort" and are now pushing mafia agenda in this thread because they feel like they have done enough "effort"

Fucking murder them.

This is stupid. Even for your standards. How does me being mafia explain anything about day1. You think Oats just needlessly tries to get me killed if we are buddies? It was literally 9:7. He could have gone to Trfel without any problem. Or elsewhere.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
March 14 2024 19:44 GMT
#8347
On March 15 2024 04:39 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2024 04:33 Palmar wrote:
On March 15 2024 04:23 Koshi wrote:
On March 09 2024 11:51 Grackaroni wrote:
Day Two Vote Count

Oatsmaster (9): Alakaslam, Jealous, JacobStrangelove, Rels, Meapak_Ziphh, iamperfection, DarthPunk, die_meatbaby, CopCake, Justanothertownie, ToTheStars, Koshi, marvellosity, JacobStrangelove, Alakaslam
VisceraEyes (7): Koshi, Oatsmaster, iamperfection, Vivax, Palmar, Alakaslam, Meapak_Ziphh, iamperfection, CopCake
Palmar (0): Oatsmaster, CopCake, iamperfection, JacobStrangelove, CopCake
Jealous (0): CopCake
Justanothertownie (0): Vivax, Oatsmaster
ToTheStars (0): iamperfection, Oatsmaster
marvellosity (0): Vivax
die_meatbaby (0): Oatsmaster
VisceraEyes (0): iamperfection
CopCake (0): Jealous

Not Voting (1): VisceraEyes

With 9 votes, Oatsmaster is currently set to be lynched!

The deadline is Saturday, Mar 09 3:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in



I am so fucking suspicious of both Palmar (Jealous Rels) and JAT (DMB and was ot also Jealous?) wanting or scumreading 2 people on Oats.

Not everyone was there at the deadline. But you do make a point. It seems very likely that there is at least one if not two mafia in mz/cc/iamp

But you also have to remember that mafia is playing with perfect information. They know that Oats is scum, they know the check is legit (whereas I mused about even lynching slam).

They will be deathly afraid of being seen to go against the red check even if a bunch of stupid townies are doing it

I think it’s perfectly reasonable that 3 mafia were on Oats to try to not get the attention that voting against a red check would give them

If you vivax and I are pushing VE and we are all town, mafia would come over to our wagon. Lucky marv has a brain.
The fact you and JAT push 3 people on that Oats wagon is simply ridiculous. That you dont attackbeachvother over this but just fill this thread with this nonsense is too much for me.

Yeah, marv has a brain. That's why he said mafia is probably rolling with the bus on oats. wtf man
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
March 14 2024 19:44 GMT
#8348
This is my question:

The day before at some point TTS had a wagon on him

The day ended and night happened

Slam got a check on Oats

Oats and Iamp start a wagon for TTS, a safe bet to make mafiaoats who is a power role and mafiaiamp look better. The TTS train is something that - could happen - but since it didnt they went for VE while the rest of the mafia TTS and someone else went for Oats.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
March 14 2024 19:46 GMT
#8349
On March 15 2024 04:39 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2024 04:33 Palmar wrote:
On March 15 2024 04:23 Koshi wrote:
On March 09 2024 11:51 Grackaroni wrote:
Day Two Vote Count

Oatsmaster (9): Alakaslam, Jealous, JacobStrangelove, Rels, Meapak_Ziphh, iamperfection, DarthPunk, die_meatbaby, CopCake, Justanothertownie, ToTheStars, Koshi, marvellosity, JacobStrangelove, Alakaslam
VisceraEyes (7): Koshi, Oatsmaster, iamperfection, Vivax, Palmar, Alakaslam, Meapak_Ziphh, iamperfection, CopCake
Palmar (0): Oatsmaster, CopCake, iamperfection, JacobStrangelove, CopCake
Jealous (0): CopCake
Justanothertownie (0): Vivax, Oatsmaster
ToTheStars (0): iamperfection, Oatsmaster
marvellosity (0): Vivax
die_meatbaby (0): Oatsmaster
VisceraEyes (0): iamperfection
CopCake (0): Jealous

Not Voting (1): VisceraEyes

With 9 votes, Oatsmaster is currently set to be lynched!

The deadline is Saturday, Mar 09 3:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in



I am so fucking suspicious of both Palmar (Jealous Rels) and JAT (DMB and was ot also Jealous?) wanting or scumreading 2 people on Oats.

Not everyone was there at the deadline. But you do make a point. It seems very likely that there is at least one if not two mafia in mz/cc/iamp

But you also have to remember that mafia is playing with perfect information. They know that Oats is scum, they know the check is legit (whereas I mused about even lynching slam).

They will be deathly afraid of being seen to go against the red check even if a bunch of stupid townies are doing it

I think it’s perfectly reasonable that 3 mafia were on Oats to try to not get the attention that voting against a red check would give them

If you vivax and I are pushing VE and we are all town, mafia would come over to our wagon. Lucky marv has a brain.
The fact you and JAT push 3 people on that Oats wagon is simply ridiculous. That you dont attackbeachvother over this but just fill this thread with this nonsense is too much for me.

On March 07 2024 23:18 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2024 22:56 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Everyone who has called into question Slam's check in anyway is instantly less town to me. That starts with copcake but also includes you now Koshi. It's got the vibe of a scum team that left slam alive thinking he wasn't gonna find any of them and are now mad that he's better than they thought.

If Oats flips VT we can revisit this but right now these posts only serve as opening the door for Oats to get out of the lynch.

Also funny your push was onto me Koshi when I'm the same lynch Oats tried to push as the alternative to him.

Do you really think mafia think they can wiggle out of a red check?

I think the opposite to you. I think mafia absolutely rolls with the red check.

Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
March 14 2024 19:46 GMT
#8350
On March 15 2024 04:40 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2024 04:37 Palmar wrote:
Remember that a lot of mafia play with constant fear of doing anything stupid and anti-town. It's one of the things that has kept a bunch of people alive this game.

This applies to voting too. Mafia has no idea if town chickens out of killing VE if he actually takes the lead. and as the wagon on VE grows, they ABSOLUTELY do not want to be the ones delivering the hammer blow on a townie over a red check. Only the very, very best mafia players take that challenge.

^^^^


It's good for you to echo this so at least you aren't the teammate Palmar is indirectly mentioning.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 14 2024 19:55 GMT
#8351
##Unvote
##Vote: Palmar

Time to vote with my homies. I hope DP sees what I see.
I had a good night of sleep.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
March 14 2024 20:00 GMT
#8352
On March 15 2024 04:44 CopCake wrote:
This is my question:

The day before at some point TTS had a wagon on him

The day ended and night happened

Slam got a check on Oats

Oats and Iamp start a wagon for TTS, a safe bet to make mafiaoats who is a power role and mafiaiamp look better. The TTS train is something that - could happen - but since it didnt they went for VE while the rest of the mafia TTS and someone else went for Oats.


I like this

Mafia tried wagon on TTS on day 2, thinking town would follow as the day before. But it didnt.
It was a safe bet

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
March 14 2024 20:15 GMT
#8353
Iamp the day before NEVER voted for TTS

On March 06 2024 10:45 Grackaroni wrote:
Day One Vote Count

Mayor

Vivax (12): raynpelikoneet, Rels, Vivax, DarthPunk, die_meatbaby, Koshi, Alakaslam, JacobStrangelove, Meapak_Ziphh, marvellosity, Palmar, Jealous, Trfel
raynpelikoneet (3): JacobStrangelove, Alakaslam, raynpelikoneet, Iamperfection, raynpelikoneet, VisceraEyes
Oatsmaster (1): Oatsmaster
Koshi (1): Koshi, justanothertownie


Not Voting (5): sandroba, CopCake, Hapahauli, ToTheStars

With 11 votes, Vivax is currently set to be elected!

Lynch

Trfel (8): iamperfection, Vivax, DarthPunk, JacobStrangelove, Alakaslam, Justanothertownie, Vivax, marvellosity, Koshi, VisceraEyes, Vivax, Jealous
Justanothertownie (6): sandroba, Palmar, DarthPunk, Vivax, DarthPunk, JacobStrangelove, Vivax, Oatsmaster, die_meatbaby
Palmar (3) : marvellosity, justanothertownie, Alakaslam, sandroba, DarthPunk, Rels Koshi, raynpelikoneet, Trfel
JacobStrangelove (1): CopCake, DarthPunk
CopCake (1): Oatsmaster, DarthPunk, Meapak_Ziphh
die_meatbaby (0): Oatsmaster
ToTheStars (0): Rels, CopCake, JacobStrangelove, Vivax
Hapahauli (0): Alakaslam
VisceraEyes (0): iamperfection, sandroba, Vivax, Oatsmaster
DarthPunk (0) : raynpelikoneet
iamperfection (0): DarthPunk
Koshi (0) : JacobStrangelove, Oatsmaster, sandroba
raynpelikoneet (0) : DarthPunk
Alakaslam (0) Oatsmaster, CopCake
Vivax (0): Alakaslam
Oatsmaster (0) : Vivax, VisceraEyes, DarthPunk


Not Voting(2): Hapahauli, ToTheStars

With 8 votes, Trfel is currently set to be lynched!

Let me know if you see any votes misplaced

The deadline is Wednesday, Mar 06 3:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in




Next day Iamp and Oats vote TTS

On March 09 2024 11:51 Grackaroni wrote:
Day Two Vote Count

Oatsmaster (9): Alakaslam, Jealous, JacobStrangelove, Rels, Meapak_Ziphh, iamperfection, DarthPunk, die_meatbaby, CopCake, Justanothertownie, ToTheStars, Koshi, marvellosity, JacobStrangelove, Alakaslam
VisceraEyes (7): Koshi, Oatsmaster, iamperfection, Vivax, Palmar, Alakaslam, Meapak_Ziphh, iamperfection, CopCake
Palmar (0): Oatsmaster, CopCake, iamperfection, JacobStrangelove, CopCake
Jealous (0): CopCake
Justanothertownie (0): Vivax, Oatsmaster
ToTheStars (0): iamperfection, Oatsmaster
marvellosity (0): Vivax
die_meatbaby (0): Oatsmaster
VisceraEyes (0): iamperfection
CopCake (0): Jealous

Not Voting (1): VisceraEyes

With 9 votes, Oatsmaster is currently set to be lynched!

The deadline is Saturday, Mar 09 3:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in




On March 07 2024 23:54 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2024 23:24 iamperfection wrote:
On March 07 2024 18:20 ToTheStars wrote:
DP and Vivax what are your reads?

All I remember of Day 1 is that I was townreading you two, maybe rayn, also alakaslam. And scumreading trfel but I think they flipped town?

The post feels like trying to pretend to be clueless. I think they flipped town. Nobody would talk like that.

Yeah i agree with this, very forced


On March 08 2024 00:35 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2024 00:31 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 08 2024 00:29 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 08 2024 00:23 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 08 2024 00:14 Jealous wrote:
On March 08 2024 00:09 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 08 2024 00:07 Jealous wrote:
On March 08 2024 00:01 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 07 2024 23:58 Jealous wrote:
On March 06 2024 11:07 Oatsmaster wrote:
[quote]
Oh sorry I misread but I think vivax is town now and jat is town now
Jacob more null slam town

Updates from Oats' filter since the above reads list:
2847: Voted JAT anyway despite townreading him, to give Trfel "time to play." Because of where the votes were, I am not gonna change alignments here, but it should be noted that Oats had JAT as town and Trfel as NA.
3414: "Jsl saying that koshi’s thing was a scumslip but DMB’s thing wasn’t a scumslip is super sus"
3861: "I’m just laughing at the jealous post completely accepting that he’s acting in an anti town manner because of “probability”" <- I don't think this is enough for me to assume they SR me but who knows.
3990: "For claim reactions, I think that the way jealous reacted felt very preplanned and lining up the mislynches, what do you think?" <- This is closer to an accusation IMO.*
4067: "Overall, it just doesn’t seem like mz has natural progressions and is not trying to find mafia"
4013: "If this means that you think slam is cop then yes I agree "

So we have:

Town:
Koshi
Iamperfection
Rayn
Palmar
Vivax
JAT
Alakaslam

NA:
DarthPunk
sandroba
Trfel
marvellosity
Hapahauli
ToTheStars
Rels

Scum:
Meapak_Ziphh
Jealous
[?]*
Jacob
VE
DMB
CopCake


Also: "I do agree that either both [rayn and marv] are mafia or rayn is town."

@Oatsmaster: Is this updated reads list of yours accurate? What would you change and why?

Jacob is town, cop is town, tothestars is mafia. You are null, jat is mafia

Updated list:

Town:
Koshi
Iamperfection
Palmar
Vivax
JAT
Jacob
CopCake
Alakaslam

NA:
DarthPunk
marvellosity
ToTheStars
Rels
Jealous

Scum:
JAT
Meapak_Ziphh
Jacob
ToTheStars
VE
DMB
CopCake


Can you elaborate on the above changes? Old positions crossed out, new positions should be accurate.

On March 08 2024 00:01 Oatsmaster wrote:
How did you get jat is town from my filter

From this, quoted above in response to the original list:
Oh sorry I misread but I think vivax is town now and jat is town now

Oh that was night wifom, he’s definitely scum

Alright. Also found your TTS reasoning above, so we can skip that one.

1. I'm guessing Jacob town because of the role claim, correct?
2. Why is JAT scum?
3. And why is CopCake town?

I really don’t like the way he was absolving himself of responsibility on day 1 and sheeping marv wholesale while claiming marv wasn’t a townread for him.
Today hes said twice now about the check possibly being altered but he’s seems to have said it just to say it without fully considering what the options are

There are no options, Oats. If you are town you have been very unfortunate. Or slam is mafia, which I think is very unlikely. In each case, the correct play is always to lynch you today.

The correct play is to lynch mafia.

The man makes a good point.




CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
March 14 2024 20:17 GMT
#8354
Can I have permission to go on a solo quest to vote someone I think is mafia, Vivax?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
March 14 2024 20:19 GMT
#8355
Iamp/Palmar/XXXXX

Palmar might be goon tho.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
March 14 2024 20:20 GMT
#8356
Iamp also started the Tfrel wagon.

Iamp saved me.

justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
March 14 2024 20:27 GMT
#8357
Iamp:

There are some very early interactions with Oats resulting in this:
On March 04 2024 12:29 iamperfection wrote:
+10 town points for oats though for not reading the op
but also +10 dummy points

On March 04 2024 12:31 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2024 12:30 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:29 iamperfection wrote:
+10 town points for oats though for not reading the op
but also +10 dummy points


Why does that make him town?

town are slightly more likely to not be aware of the setup and freely post about it like a dummy imo. only slightly though

Generally alright. NAI
On March 05 2024 01:32 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2024 01:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 05 2024 01:27 Trfel wrote:
Raynpelikoneet, why do you think iamperfection is town?

I kinda think the opposite. He's been throwing side comments without getting involved or invested.

I think he is completely and utterly useless as mafia, and too lazy to form almost any reasonable trains of thoughts. I don't see it being like that here. Just look at the game that got cancelled last year for reference.

Excuse me. My win rate as mafia is extremely high.

Huh, is it? I was working under the assumption his mafia play was obvious.

He is going against Vivax on day1. Which is fine, towny even.

On March 05 2024 09:00 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2024 15:15 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 04 2024 15:06 DarthPunk wrote:
Oats looking better.

Why? I’m doing the same shit I was earlier

Does a scum post this?

meh. Why is this formulated as a question? Is he fishing for townreads on Oats without comitting himself?
On March 05 2024 14:59 iamperfection wrote:
2) Oatsmaster- eh I guess there may be some pots where there was genuine confusion. Tinfoil marv and rayn are mafia together I guess would more likely come from town. So slight town read

18) ToTheStars- useless might be scum might be not fine vig target

Further non commital on Oats. TTS read is good.
On March 06 2024 11:26 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2024 11:25 Trfel wrote:
Yeah sorry, been dealing with some mental health issues, combined with being horrendous on day 1, has made it hard to find mafia or be very effective.

I think raynpelikoneet's play was very solid early on, he feels much more genuine than last game. It feels like he really cares about what he's doing. So I think he is town, same with marvellosity and sandroba by association. I would be very hesitant about suspecting these three. Kinda think DarthPunk is town as well, but I could be wrong.

I don't have any great scumreads unfortunately, or I would have shared them. I still don't like the way iamperfection was playing but I have vague memories of that just being his playstyle so I could be wrong.

Not sure what Vivax is doing with his "reasons" to suspect me. There are reasons I could be mafia, he managed to not find them but is very passionate about it anyway. I don't know if that means anything though.

if your lying about the mental health issues i applaud you.

This would be a pretty awful post as mafia tbh.
On March 07 2024 12:40 iamperfection wrote:
Oats your mission should you choose to accept it is to spew as much towness as possible this cycle. Then we can lynch VE if not i salute you my friend.

Not sure he would say this to his scumbuddy...
On March 08 2024 08:11 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2024 08:09 ToTheStars wrote:
I saw that there was a guilty on Oats? Who claimed the guilty?

This really feels like an act to me.

Hmmmm. Makes sense to bus at this point. But is a fair observation in general. One of the few people actually scumreading TTS.
On March 08 2024 10:35 iamperfection wrote:

TTS

Yes i have had some fear of possible lynch bait but the word choice he has used looks like a blatant act to me.

Show nested quote +
On March 07 2024 18:20 ToTheStars wrote:
DP and Vivax what are your reads?

All I remember of Day 1 is that I was townreading you two, maybe rayn, also alakaslam. And scumreading trfel but I think they flipped town?


I think they flipped town? like come on nobody would talk like that its clearly an act.

Show nested quote +
On March 08 2024 08:09 ToTheStars wrote:
I saw that there was a guilty on Oats? Who claimed the guilty?


He was aware that there was a check but somehow also dosnt know who claimed. A town member would go look i think he is blatantly trying to look like a noob so we dont lynch him.


That was quite terrible:
On March 09 2024 00:30 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2024 00:14 Oatsmaster wrote:
Eh let’s get something going
##unvote
##vote ve

Sure

If there is a strong mafia player going for saving Oats it might be Iamp. Sounds like a losing strategy though.
If CC and Palmar are town Iamp was pushing mafia agenda quite heavily.

Day3 Lynch:
On March 12 2024 10:49 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2024 10:31 Rels wrote:
But from where I am in my catching up, VE should 100% be the lynch. The only post I didn't dislike was the Koshi case, but apart from that, textbook scum. Come back with a few big posts at the best time to not waste effort, during the last half of the day. Write cases that sound good but doesn't stand up to scrutiny. Martyr and GTFO

i kind of feel the same about this.

I think his engagement looks good. He clearly cares about the outcome. If CC is town it does not clear him but it looks good. Mafia probably prefers to mislynch her. If CC is mafia this is a power move.

He reacts quite explosively to Palmar calling him mafia.
On March 14 2024 06:58 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2024 06:58 Palmar wrote:
I've for some reason played extremely carefully this game and it's gotten me nowhere. I've sat on reads to try to placate people and be a good boy but I think i'm just kinda done with it.

I think iamp is mafia

OK stay on palmar

On March 14 2024 07:00 iamperfection wrote:
Out palmar

On March 14 2024 07:08 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2024 07:06 Palmar wrote:
On March 14 2024 07:03 iamperfection wrote:
On March 14 2024 07:02 Vivax wrote:
Palmar is another one of those ‚I think he may be lying every time he posts but does it make him mafia‘ types

I‘m going to stay on Jealous I‘ve had it with iamp telling me to stay on cop yesterday then lynching Ve now he wants to lynch Palmar

Vivax he comes back to the thread and says I'm mafia and doesn't even humor us with a reason. He is mafia

I kinda made the case earlier.

The point is you've been obstinate to the point of strangeness at way too many times in this thread.

Couple that with the feel of "just existing" thing I've talked about before.

Tbf the most towny thing you've done this game is try to lynch me.

Palamr how can you say I have been just existing in this game. I literally hammered ve I exposed the masons at the start and showed why rayn was town. I was the one that explained why tts was mafia when he came back. I lead the charge on trfel I literally post almost 24/7 wtf are you talking about. You have to be mafia

I think a little anger is warranted since Palmar gave him the same undeserved treatment he gave me. It still seems a bit over the top though.

Overall I have treated Iamp as town all game. Reason was - as mentioned before - that I had some mindmeld moments when reading the start of the game and he continued to post reasonably the whole game. Has a lot of interactions with the flipped mafia. Day2 vote was bad. Day3 vote was good if CC is town.

Conclusion: Not lock town but definitely not lynching today. Could be theoretically be the scumleader though. Especially if CC is mafia.

iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
March 14 2024 20:55 GMT
#8358
Palmar can you give a full read on me.

An actual read. I want the whole filter read.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 14 2024 20:56 GMT
#8359
On March 15 2024 04:42 Koshi wrote:
I am locked boys. You have to convince Vivax/DP/iamp etc.

For me mafia is

JAT/Palmar/MZ

Locked and loaded till the end..
418 pages. I dont need to post anything else anymore.


I really don’t think this is right.

"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 14 2024 20:57 GMT
#8360
On March 15 2024 04:55 Koshi wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: Palmar

Time to vote with my homies. I hope DP sees what I see.


I get your train of thought but you are really throwing to a bus here. And mafia love to bus. Especially a red check.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
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