A Classy Game of Mafia - Page 419

On March 05 2024 03:17 Rels wrote:
Voting ToTheStars, mainly for his last post.



I hate the last paragraph in particular. So much words to justify this weak vote. It looks like he's afraid to do something that might be suspicious and is asking permission

The rest of his filter is also nothing

On March 05 2024 03:45 Rels wrote:

I know that's a super early post (that's actually the earliest post in my "opened waiting to be revisited" tabs). I didn't like it at the time, and I still don't like it

Like, it can originate from 2 situations: town having not read the OP, or scum faking this to appear like a town having not read the OP

If it comes from town, I don't understand how you can say something as assertive as "Wait do you not know that there is X" when you should know you. I know I would never write something like this without checking it a few times and making sure I'm right

If it comes from scum, I can see it. That just means he played the "I'm clueless" card, and made a mistake by pushing it a little too hard

On March 05 2024 05:11 Rels wrote:

1. You call it fighting, I don't, it's called discussing. I don't have a townread on VE. I want to understand what he did that is considered scummy because I don't see it
2. And yeah, mine. I think ToTheStars has the highest chance of flipping scum if the deadline was right now

On March 06 2024 09:10 Rels wrote:
Gotta go. I would say out of the options I have, my preference would be Palmar > JAT > random lurker (out of those, I still think TTS has the highest chance of flipping scum)

Still think Trfel is town, I would prefer any random lurker over him

On March 06 2024 09:11 Rels wrote:
I don't know if everyone jumped off Palmar, but that's the scummiest thing that happened in the game in my opinion:

On March 08 2024 12:31 Rels wrote:

AWESOME find on TTS! "And scumreading trfel but I think they flipped town?" cannot ever make sense if it is not faked to appear clueless town??? 100% scum

On March 08 2024 13:56 Rels wrote:

Scum: Palmar, TTS, VE, Oats
Possibly scum: DMB
Town: The rest apart from Jealous for which I have no read

On March 09 2024 14:35 Rels wrote:

100% agree that the reaction time to vote a random partner immediately after being red check is super implausible

But that's not the case there. The DMB bullet was loaded more than 24 hours previously

On March 09 2024 15:10 Rels wrote:
I think I hate this big "I'll list all Oats reads" post from Jealous. It really appears to be easy busywork to appear active and involved.

I even hate this header, nobody cares:


I hate that it was updated 2 more times (here and here). Smells like both an easy way to have a conversation with a partner and an easy way to do busywork

On March 10 2024 09:46 Rels wrote:

I think we have the exact same list if Jealous is swapped for JAT. Why Jealous?

On March 11 2024 13:33 Rels wrote:
My mind is here:

Scum
VE is almost confirmed scum IMO. My scumread started at the fake anger against rayn D1 (or N1? But I think D1), but the rest of his play since then is just an admission of being scum.

CC this cycle has been really, really scummy with her play. Martyring but still hanging out with no real objective and mainly discussing roles and KP targets. It really feels like a mafia that know they will be lynched but also know they have to participate in order to not play against their wincon

DMB has already been very scummy. I know she's has been scumread a lot s town, but the points that I think is not correlated to her style are her entrance where she spoke only in general terms until she was called out on it(I know at least by me, maybe others too), and the dumbtell in particular that looked very forced. Also was not a fan on how she behaved when marv/DP pushed her yesterday. I still haven't had the time to read one of her towngame, that's something that I will need to do

Jealous I hated a few posts from them. Already summarized it for marv yesterday, but basically, I have the feeling that his big posts are there to be townie / believable, not there because they're genuine. Contrary to some other takes I've seen, I didn't find anything particularly townie about them, if we exclude activity. I might be wrong, but I think his take on Vivax earlier was the first time he posted something that really resonated with me, and it was not even alignment related

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JAT I've thought was townie for a while for some of his posts and analyses N1, but TBH this is becoming to become weaker and weaker. I can't remember anything they've done lately - I know they've been somewhat active, but can't remember a single thing that influenced my reads. Probably the weakest of my townreads.

Koshi is someone that I thought multiple times was falling off, but actually hit a sprea of posts after catching up and thought once again he was being extremely townie with the way he thought and jumped from idea to idea. Very strong townread.

Palmar, just quoted my reasonning to MZ earlier, really, really don't think he makes those dumbtells as an experienced player. I know dumbtell are always tempting as scum, but this feels like too much, especially in this game where people are being scumread for dumbtells already. I also really liked his last list post (last in the part of the game I've read, haven't read the last 24 hours).

DP is super, super town, in addition to actually having played against their wincon if they're scum by shooting a partner instead of a scummy townie.

MZ has been so doubtful and involved in D2 when there was no reason to, very very strong townread.

iamperfection is a somewhat strong townread. I actualy never filtered him so I'm probably missing a bunch of his posts, but several times, he posted stuff that was either a great find or exactly what I thought at the time.

Vivax is JK. If he's scum and we really have no other protective role, I'm blaming balance there.

JSL is confirmed town.

13 players so I'm missing someone.
Whelp I guess it's me lol

On March 14 2024 10:14 Rels wrote:

I can of course bus if needed, but my preferred strategy is to get my team town cred and control the lynch candidates to have the right number of potential mislynches to win the game. If I do bus, I tend to do it hard
Actually got some proof I knew I had posted this somewhere, this is from my scum Discord I had with rayn and CopCake (Chezinu Streak Mafia):

On March 15 2024 06:05 DarthPunk wrote:
Let’s work in a world that palmar is town for a little bit.

Does that rule out JAT as mafia?

Cause day one he is locked in on town palmar as a lynch and a wagon forms on him because he refuses to vote trfel.

Now he is a risk of being lynched again and he is town reading the obvious counter wagon.

None of that makes sense if palmar town JAT mafia.

Now it does make sense if they are both mafia

But in that case why does palmar form a counter wagon on his own teammate of all people. There are a lot of people that look roughly similar this game to choose from.

Does mafia palmar choose to bus here for no reason?

So I don’t think they are paired either.

Can’t say I love the conclusions being drawn here.

On March 15 2024 06:12 DarthPunk wrote:
I don’t want to lynch palmar.

Why not JAT first?

On March 15 2024 06:14 DarthPunk wrote:
Although I will say he has posted a lot of reads today. So that is kinda of defeating the reason I thought he was mafia.

On March 15 2024 06:14 Koshi wrote:

He does it so he gains towncred so he can push people off Palmar.
Be very fucking wary if he suddenly starts hard pushing stuff in this thread.

On March 15 2024 06:15 Koshi wrote:
JAT hasn't done shit so far. But he is doing all this so they can lead town into oblivion.

On March 15 2024 06:14 Koshi wrote:

He does it so he gains towncred so he can push people off Palmar.
Be very fucking wary if he suddenly starts hard pushing stuff in this thread.

On March 15 2024 06:15 DarthPunk wrote:

Agreed. So why we voting palmar over jat here?

On March 15 2024 06:16 Koshi wrote:

Because I am voting with my homies.

On March 15 2024 06:16 justanothertownie wrote:

Amazing.

On March 15 2024 05:17 CopCake wrote:
Can I have permission to go on a solo quest to vote someone I think is mafia, Vivax?

On March 15 2024 06:16 DarthPunk wrote:


Oof