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On March 11 2024 14:16 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2024 14:14 Vivax wrote:
He should welcome the blueprint should he not To get mislynched at mylo? No thankyou.
Then don‘t semiclaim vet. It‘s pro-town if you get NKd you make the endgame easier.
Thank you.
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Yeah Vivax I got your position and I agree, you actually put into words something I also kind of felt
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On March 11 2024 14:21 Rels wrote:
Yeah Vivax I got your position and I agree, you actually put into words something I also kind of felt
This is very unclear lol, so rephrased:
"Yeah JSL, I got your position on Vivax and I agree"
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On March 11 2024 14:21 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2024 14:16 DarthPunk wrote:On March 11 2024 14:14 Vivax wrote:
He should welcome the blueprint should he not To get mislynched at mylo? No thankyou. Then don‘t semiclaim vet. It‘s pro-town if you get NKd you make the endgame easier. Thank you.
Fair enough, I was just trying to wifom the scum team enough to get my shot off tbh.
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On March 11 2024 14:19 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2024 14:17 Jealous wrote:On March 11 2024 14:06 Rels wrote:On March 11 2024 13:56 DarthPunk wrote:On March 11 2024 13:43 Rels wrote:On March 11 2024 13:15 DarthPunk wrote:On March 11 2024 13:11 Vivax wrote:On March 11 2024 13:09 DarthPunk wrote:
It bothers me because it just gives mafia a blueprint to keep me alive until so that the confirmed unkillable mayor will push for the wrong lynch at mylo.
It is literally that obviously bad what you are doing right now. If you are town then explain to me why Jealous and MZ can‘t be scum. I am not that confident on either of them to say they CAN'T be scum. I think that they are both town though, Jealous, his interactions in the QT were really townie and hard to fake in the moment. Clearing DMB in the way that he did for example, is something I would not expect scum to do in the way that he did. His reads have aligned with mine. His hapa=Town view early was really good and townie imo. MZ: Looks really bad in a way that makes me think he is just fearless townie saying what he believes regardless of the consequences. Has spent heaps of time scum hunting and filter diving this phase when he didn't have to and which is more than can be said for others here. Can you expand on the Jealous thought? What was hard to fake? Totally agree on MZ Just the level of interaction and thought processes that made sense, we talked ALOT in our discord chat, and aside from the one thing that bothered me he came across as townie to me. For example, he really really wanted oats to be lynched and thought he was mafia, and thought that the people not wanting to lynch oats were fishing for scum. Not once did he want to not lynch oats/ Just a whole bunch of really townie takes that I don't think make sense for him. I also don't think his positing on copcake makes any sense if they are partnered. Thanks. Can't comment on the Discord stuff obviously, but I feel like the "people not voting Oats are suspicious" can be a posture or mantra that's easy to follow as scum I didn't like that he went this way against Koshi and Vivax D2 but didn't really have an objective to where he would take him. Even though to my knowledge he didn't get a satisfactory answer, I don't think he got a conclusion on Koshi. I might be wrong (missed the last 24 hours before I came back) I'd appreciate if you could point to where I "went this way" against Koshi and what you didn't like about it. I know you're busy though so I'm fine waiting, and again, GL with your interviews. About Vivax, I'm putting off doing the math in my head because right now I have him as a default town read (as per my post), but I wanted to know why he was pushing for a VE second wagon (especially now that we have a confirm on Oats' alignment). He answered that to my satisfaction (he believes both lynches were scum), but he also threw in an accusation toward me. I have addressed this accusation multiple times including a question toward him, but he did not answer. After having brought it up again, I still got no answer. So, what's the point if he's just going to dodge? Just putting that one in the ol' memory banks for when we get rid of people that I find more likely to be scum (Cop and VE), if I stay alive long enough. Let me see if I didn't make a mistake, but I'm pretty sure that's the thing we talked about yesterday Was actually 2 days ago Show nested quote +On March 09 2024 15:16 Rels wrote:On March 09 2024 15:07 Jealous wrote:On March 09 2024 14:57 Rels wrote:On March 08 2024 11:06 Jealous wrote:On March 08 2024 10:57 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
You can't all be scum, some of you just have to be dumb. The tricky part is figuring out which is which. Kinda where I'm at, but I'm also thinking it might be smart!town throwing some seeds out there to see who shows up to pick at them. I kinda feel like Koshi and Vivac would generally be too smart to do something so stupid without a reason. Feel like it's been a few hours and beers in me by now so I feel comfortable saying that the bait would already be getting moldy, so no harm in my outing my suspicions that some of these baby wagon attempts are just that: little experiments to see who reacts how. What are you talking about in the last paragraph? Did you do something in order to bait reactions? If yes, what were those things and what were the results you got from them? My initial impression was that Koshi and Vivax were not dumb enough to go against a cop-claimed Alakazam's reveal on scum!Oats, but suddenly here they were, pushing other wagons out of nowhere. So, by eliminating the dumb option, the "smart" option is that Vivax and Koshi are just throwing out bait to see who bites and what those decisions result in. Like running an experiment. However, several hours later I figured the "experiments" (if that's what they were) had already run their course to some extent so I wouldn't be contaminating the results by outing my suspicion that this is what they were doing. This was further bolstered by alcohol in the system. Kinda regretting it now though because I would have loved to see how Koshi and Vivax would have justified their wagon attempts without my saying anything. Now that you know it was real, what do you think of them? Show nested quote +On March 09 2024 15:20 Jealous wrote:On March 09 2024 15:16 Rels wrote:On March 09 2024 15:07 Jealous wrote:On March 09 2024 14:57 Rels wrote:On March 08 2024 11:06 Jealous wrote:On March 08 2024 10:57 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
You can't all be scum, some of you just have to be dumb. The tricky part is figuring out which is which. Kinda where I'm at, but I'm also thinking it might be smart!town throwing some seeds out there to see who shows up to pick at them. I kinda feel like Koshi and Vivac would generally be too smart to do something so stupid without a reason. Feel like it's been a few hours and beers in me by now so I feel comfortable saying that the bait would already be getting moldy, so no harm in my outing my suspicions that some of these baby wagon attempts are just that: little experiments to see who reacts how. What are you talking about in the last paragraph? Did you do something in order to bait reactions? If yes, what were those things and what were the results you got from them? My initial impression was that Koshi and Vivax were not dumb enough to go against a cop-claimed Alakazam's reveal on scum!Oats, but suddenly here they were, pushing other wagons out of nowhere. So, by eliminating the dumb option, the "smart" option is that Vivax and Koshi are just throwing out bait to see who bites and what those decisions result in. Like running an experiment. However, several hours later I figured the "experiments" (if that's what they were) had already run their course to some extent so I wouldn't be contaminating the results by outing my suspicion that this is what they were doing. This was further bolstered by alcohol in the system. Kinda regretting it now though because I would have loved to see how Koshi and Vivax would have justified their wagon attempts without my saying anything. Now that you know it was real, what do you think of them? Would prefer to hear the aforementioned justifications first, even if they've been diluted. Last one fr fr
Ah well, Koshi hasn't answered yet either IIRC, but to be fair he might have just missed them. Vivax doesn't have that excuse. So, good point.
@Koshi, can you respond to the above? Why did you push a VE wagon at EOD2 over red checked Oats?
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On March 11 2024 14:23 Rels wrote:
Logging off for real lol
For rels
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I have an idea, idk if it is bad but is up to town to judge
- get me lynched, i flip town
So, you can have a perspective of the night actions, like why not block/etc.
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Like, will my town flip would bring more clarity?
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On March 11 2024 14:34 CopCake wrote:
Like, will my town flip would bring more clarity?
No it‘s mind boggling how you could get lynched over Ve
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On March 11 2024 14:34 CopCake wrote:
I have an idea, idk if it is bad but is up to town to judge
- get me lynched, i flip town
So, you can have a perspective of the night actions, like why not block/etc.
WHy does that change anything if you are town?
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On March 11 2024 14:59 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2024 14:34 CopCake wrote:
I have an idea, idk if it is bad but is up to town to judge
- get me lynched, i flip town
So, you can have a perspective of the night actions, like why not block/etc.
WHy does that change anything if you are town?
If I am town, things wouldnt change for you?
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On March 11 2024 15:05 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2024 14:59 DarthPunk wrote:On March 11 2024 14:34 CopCake wrote:
I have an idea, idk if it is bad but is up to town to judge
- get me lynched, i flip town
So, you can have a perspective of the night actions, like why not block/etc.
WHy does that change anything if you are town? If I am town, things wouldnt change for you?
Nothing about night actions, which is what you said.
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Cake the night actions make perfect sense either they block dp who's shooting potentially town maybe inactive scum.
Or they block Vivax and kill slam who's read the might before killed even the most town looking oats and could clear up town on someone scum are trying to kill or find another red check while 2000% confirmed. Basically losing the game on the spot.
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Losing the game on the spot if they don't RB Vivax and kill slam.*
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Or they RB dp Vivax jail's him they get no kill slam finds somebody and DP saves their shot for n3 and they lose another mafia when he shoots them then.
Mafia made the correct play 100% by having night actions that make sense with what happened.
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From my point of view since I am town, not blocking DP means that DMB is town and mafia gambled to see who he shot.
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I mean from the perspective DP is town.
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On March 11 2024 15:37 CopCake wrote:
From my point of view since I am town, not blocking DP means that DMB is town and mafia gambled to see who he shot.
Exactly if you are town why would mafia ever shoot dp when he's 2-1 likely to hit town.
Perfect makes sense.
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