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On March 04 2024 23:29 sandroba wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2024 23:17 Vivax wrote:On March 04 2024 22:10 sandroba wrote:On March 04 2024 12:40 Trfel wrote:On March 04 2024 12:34 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 04 2024 12:31 Trfel wrote:On March 04 2024 12:28 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 04 2024 12:25 Trfel wrote:On March 04 2024 12:24 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 04 2024 12:19 Trfel wrote:
[quote]Seems like an easy way to avoid the responsibility of the results of said lynch, no?
And I don't understand why saying pregame that you would vote for Palmar and then changing your mind is a reason we should make you mayor? I was making a joke about Vivax saying he was going to autovote Palmar pregame and then immediately changed his mind. Imo the Mayor KP is town KP, not a oneshot Day vig. It's not about avoiding responsibility it's about giving the town a chance to pull a 2for1 on D1. Actually I'll cement that point, if I'm not going to win the mayor vote at the end of the day, I'm not going to vote for someone who hasn't also pledged to have the town decide the lynch. I don't think the second wagon is a "town lynch" at all. In fact there's a decent likelihood that the second wagon would be pushed by mafia, no? That's assuming the first lynch is scum which D1 imo is a crap shoot, it's just as likely to be town pushed by mafia and the runner up is the scum, hence the double tap. TL towns are like barely 50% for D1 scum lynches iirc. You're still ignoring the possibility that both are town. My point is, just because "town" votes for something doesn't make it the best play. I'm not saying you have to go for a hero play or something, but just that automatically lynching the top two instead of the top one isn't necessarily a good idea. If both are town then we'll have played a colossally trash D1 and I wouldn't be trusting my own read anymore than I trust any other individual on D1. There's something to be said for wisdom of the crowds. There's almost nothing to be said for wisdom of the crowds, that's the point. It's 16 vs 5, the whole point is that wisdom of the crowds is really ineffective, that's how the game works. Only read the thread up to this point so far. I think the once great town hero Trfel has betrayed us and is working with the enemy. The fact that he is choosing to comment so much on this technical aspect and not on people's alignment indicative behavior is what makes me believe this is the case. And why does it sound like you‘re scumreading him here and afterwards he lands in your top towns ? It sounds like that because that's exactly what happened.
Too bad he‘s scummed it up more than once and you should know better than that.
His Oats townread is explained in a very scummy manner and selective too, so its agenda driven.
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On March 04 2024 23:33 die_meatbaby wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2024 23:07 Vivax wrote:
##Vote: Trfel
##Mayor: Vivax
Sandroba why do you believe that Trfel is town ? nope no Austrians to power please
I agree you shouldn‘t be mayor.
Luckily I am Italian.
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I just presented evidence to the contrary of what Sandro believes and he just sits there and takes it.
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On March 04 2024 23:39 sandroba wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2024 23:35 Vivax wrote:
I just presented evidence to the contrary of what Sandro believes and he just sits there and takes it. If you consider time to be at a standstill that would make it a paradox. I won't fight you for correctly pointing out I changed my mind.
I will fight you because it doesn‘t look like a well explained progression.
I am questioning the basis of your read.
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On March 04 2024 23:42 sandroba wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2024 23:33 Vivax wrote:On March 04 2024 23:29 sandroba wrote:On March 04 2024 23:17 Vivax wrote:On March 04 2024 22:10 sandroba wrote:On March 04 2024 12:40 Trfel wrote:On March 04 2024 12:34 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 04 2024 12:31 Trfel wrote:On March 04 2024 12:28 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 04 2024 12:25 Trfel wrote:
[quote]I don't think the second wagon is a "town lynch" at all. In fact there's a decent likelihood that the second wagon would be pushed by mafia, no? That's assuming the first lynch is scum which D1 imo is a crap shoot, it's just as likely to be town pushed by mafia and the runner up is the scum, hence the double tap. TL towns are like barely 50% for D1 scum lynches iirc. You're still ignoring the possibility that both are town. My point is, just because "town" votes for something doesn't make it the best play. I'm not saying you have to go for a hero play or something, but just that automatically lynching the top two instead of the top one isn't necessarily a good idea. If both are town then we'll have played a colossally trash D1 and I wouldn't be trusting my own read anymore than I trust any other individual on D1. There's something to be said for wisdom of the crowds. There's almost nothing to be said for wisdom of the crowds, that's the point. It's 16 vs 5, the whole point is that wisdom of the crowds is really ineffective, that's how the game works. Only read the thread up to this point so far. I think the once great town hero Trfel has betrayed us and is working with the enemy. The fact that he is choosing to comment so much on this technical aspect and not on people's alignment indicative behavior is what makes me believe this is the case. And why does it sound like you‘re scumreading him here and afterwards he lands in your top towns ? It sounds like that because that's exactly what happened. Too bad he‘s scummed it up more than once and you should know better than that. His Oats townread is explained in a very scummy manner and selective too, so its agenda driven. Can you elaborate more on what makes it scummy and selective? When I read it I felt like it pointed out the things that jumped out to me as well.
It came at a time when Oats perception in the thread wasn‘t established as townie and he had a perception contrary to mine and DP‘s.
Part of his reason for the townread was that Oats questioned DP not wanting to be mayor but it was also the first question I posed to him in the game so if that‘s his parameter then it‘s not such an unique angle as he said Oats was using to explain the townread.
In other words I think he townread Oats just for the purpose of looking right and profiling himself.
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On March 04 2024 23:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I mean your sandroba suspicion.
I think he‘s trying to counter the buildup of pressure on Trfel and I don‘t want him doing that.
I also think I have put on display enough examples of Trfel‘s posts looking sketchy and he just ignored them.
He just blanket calls them townie instead of delivering in the same manner.
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Frustrating game so far, feels like talking to a wall.
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I have been thinking a bit about it and believe that the benefits outweigh the drawbacks of me claiming Jailkeeper on D1.
That‘s basically the only reason I want to be mayor.
I think that with half the day over we‘re far enough in the phase to have gathered who else was keen on the mayor spot without having the role to justify it.
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On March 05 2024 02:14 iamperfection wrote:
Vivax I cant
We remove the risk of a mafia mayor or me getting vigged.
I think it‘s better and it removes the uncertainty from my slot.
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On March 05 2024 02:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
##UnMayor: raynpelikoneet
##Mayor: Vivax
for now.
Vivax, you need to listen, and not be unpredictable. Okay?
Promise.
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And sorry copcake my shift starts now and I couldn‘t think of anything on the spot.
I honestly considered to claim at the start of the day just like Blazinghand would.
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On March 05 2024 02:32 iamperfection wrote:
I'm inclined to think vivax has to be town. No scum claims like that. I strongly oppose any effort to make him mayor. He already has shown he willing to throw as town we aren't giving him power.
Ok I‘ll just get NKd D1 and you can take it from there with your sound advice.
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On March 05 2024 02:34 marvellosity wrote:
I’m currently not looking outside my mason partners for mayor.
Sandro is scummy though
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Slam could be fakeclaiming its meaningless imo. Maybe he just lacks the motivation and wanted a CC. Cop is rather safe to not instantly provoke one.
And he was being scumread.
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On March 05 2024 02:59 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 02:39 marvellosity wrote:
Vivax is town but I don’t trust his lynch target if he gets elected. Vivax what's your intent regarding your lynch target?
I'd just go with the second majority like MZ offered.
I am mostly just interested in not playing reactively and reading and producing readslists atm. Being off the table helps me.
Besides, I already know I won't need to put effort in if some players here won't give semi-confirmed town the spot.
Right now they could be looking at the other ones who wanted the role but instead they just jeer.
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If you threaten the mafia to make me mayor you might even provoke a counterclaim.
Bad strategic thinking from rayn voters.
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On March 05 2024 03:05 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 03:03 Vivax wrote:
If you threaten the mafia to make me mayor you might even provoke a counterclaim.
Bad strategic thinking from rayn voters. Explain how to my dumb ass
An investigative claim is less likely to provoke a counterclaim with the possible presence of multiple ones.
Have I seen a game with doctor + jailkeeper? Maybe once I think.
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On March 05 2024 03:15 marvellosity wrote:
No mafia counter claims to try to influence the mayor vote
They almost have to permanently burn a roleblock on me and find the bodyguards. And I don't run the risk of interfering with town roles.
I think my claim was good play, until I saw that only Rels knew what to do.
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On March 05 2024 03:17 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 03:14 Vivax wrote:On March 05 2024 03:05 Alakaslam wrote:On March 05 2024 03:03 Vivax wrote:
If you threaten the mafia to make me mayor you might even provoke a counterclaim.
Bad strategic thinking from rayn voters. Explain how to my dumb ass An investigative claim is less likely to provoke a counterclaim with the possible presence of multiple ones. Have I seen a game with doctor + jailkeeper? Maybe once I think. How does this make you a better mayor than Rayn Marv Hapa Iamp VE? Because no one is going to make me mayor.
From what I saw with your claim your intention was different.
You dind't want to be mayor with your claim unlike me, you just wanted to not prove yourself town.
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On March 05 2024 03:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 03:03 Vivax wrote:
If you threaten the mafia to make me mayor you might even provoke a counterclaim.
Bad strategic thinking from rayn voters. no way mafia cc's for mayor...
One more reason for me to be town
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