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Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10170 Posts
March 19 2024 21:43 GMT
#10604
On March 20 2024 06:40 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2024 06:36 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 20 2024 06:33 justanothertownie wrote:
Thats amazing. Doesnt matter if real or fake.

Why is that amazing?

Because it is really funny to me to imagine someone being so mad that individual sentences are written in a different language. And if you just made that up its still almost as funny. It is so alien to me.

When I stub my toe I still curse in Russian so I guess it makes sense to some extent, but I feel like with a keyboard in the way and having to switch languages in order to make it happen, it just feels unnatural tbh. I would never be so mad that I don't notice that I switched languages, because that is a highly intentional thing to do on a keyboard or phone. I call BS.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10170 Posts
March 19 2024 21:51 GMT
#10611
On March 20 2024 06:47 die_meatbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2024 06:43 Jealous wrote:
On March 20 2024 06:40 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 20 2024 06:36 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 20 2024 06:33 justanothertownie wrote:
Thats amazing. Doesnt matter if real or fake.

Why is that amazing?

Because it is really funny to me to imagine someone being so mad that individual sentences are written in a different language. And if you just made that up its still almost as funny. It is so alien to me.

When I stub my toe I still curse in Russian so I guess it makes sense to some extent, but I feel like with a keyboard in the way and having to switch languages in order to make it happen, it just feels unnatural tbh. I would never be so mad that I don't notice that I switched languages, because that is a highly intentional thing to do on a keyboard or phone. I call BS.


I really didn´t think so much about the language at this moment. I just wrote aggressively my thougths about this stupid town with this non sense voting shitshow and maybe switched in both languages.
I am used to switch fast language, because I talk to my work colleagues and some guests english as well, but as we speak here german and with have german speaking guests as well, I have to switch fast all the time.

But you don't use a keyboard for that though, for a keyboard you have to either press a certain specific key combination in order to achieve or use your mouse to do manually in your OS, so you were calm enough to turn German on and then off again with a very specific and accuracy-dependent method, but mad enough to write in German? Ok.

Btw writing and speaking utilize some different parts of the brain so making the argument that because you switch in your daily speaking life is not a great one for that reason, too.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10170 Posts
March 19 2024 21:59 GMT
#10616
On March 20 2024 06:56 die_meatbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2024 06:51 Jealous wrote:
On March 20 2024 06:47 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 20 2024 06:43 Jealous wrote:
On March 20 2024 06:40 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 20 2024 06:36 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 20 2024 06:33 justanothertownie wrote:
Thats amazing. Doesnt matter if real or fake.

Why is that amazing?

Because it is really funny to me to imagine someone being so mad that individual sentences are written in a different language. And if you just made that up its still almost as funny. It is so alien to me.

When I stub my toe I still curse in Russian so I guess it makes sense to some extent, but I feel like with a keyboard in the way and having to switch languages in order to make it happen, it just feels unnatural tbh. I would never be so mad that I don't notice that I switched languages, because that is a highly intentional thing to do on a keyboard or phone. I call BS.


I really didn´t think so much about the language at this moment. I just wrote aggressively my thougths about this stupid town with this non sense voting shitshow and maybe switched in both languages.
I am used to switch fast language, because I talk to my work colleagues and some guests english as well, but as we speak here german and with have german speaking guests as well, I have to switch fast all the time.

But you don't use a keyboard for that though, for a keyboard you have to either press a certain specific key combination in order to achieve or use your mouse to do manually in your OS, so you were calm enough to turn German on and then off again with a very specific and accuracy-dependent method, but mad enough to write in German? Ok.

Btw writing and speaking utilize some different parts of the brain so making the argument that because you switch in your daily speaking life is not a great one for that reason, too.


wtf It´s not mandarin or arabic
I use the same keyboard with the same order of letters to write german or english.
I am learning with the same keyboard italien. I don´t need to change any settings for that.

I don´t turn anything of or on at the keyboard. We use the same 26 letters of the alphabet +äöü

How do you create äöü?
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10170 Posts
March 19 2024 21:59 GMT
#10617
On March 20 2024 06:58 die_meatbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2024 06:56 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 20 2024 06:51 Jealous wrote:
On March 20 2024 06:47 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 20 2024 06:43 Jealous wrote:
On March 20 2024 06:40 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 20 2024 06:36 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 20 2024 06:33 justanothertownie wrote:
Thats amazing. Doesnt matter if real or fake.

Why is that amazing?

Because it is really funny to me to imagine someone being so mad that individual sentences are written in a different language. And if you just made that up its still almost as funny. It is so alien to me.

When I stub my toe I still curse in Russian so I guess it makes sense to some extent, but I feel like with a keyboard in the way and having to switch languages in order to make it happen, it just feels unnatural tbh. I would never be so mad that I don't notice that I switched languages, because that is a highly intentional thing to do on a keyboard or phone. I call BS.


I really didn´t think so much about the language at this moment. I just wrote aggressively my thougths about this stupid town with this non sense voting shitshow and maybe switched in both languages.
I am used to switch fast language, because I talk to my work colleagues and some guests english as well, but as we speak here german and with have german speaking guests as well, I have to switch fast all the time.

But you don't use a keyboard for that though, for a keyboard you have to either press a certain specific key combination in order to achieve or use your mouse to do manually in your OS, so you were calm enough to turn German on and then off again with a very specific and accuracy-dependent method, but mad enough to write in German? Ok.

Btw writing and speaking utilize some different parts of the brain so making the argument that because you switch in your daily speaking life is not a great one for that reason, too.


wtf It´s not mandarin or arabic
I use the same keyboard with the same order of letters to write german or english.
I am learning with the same keyboard italien. I don´t need to change any settings for that.

I don´t turn anything of or on at the keyboard. We use the same 26 letters of the alphabet +äöü

are you trying to make a case on me for switching in my motherlanguage when I am getting so pissed?

I'm making the case that it feels like an act, yes.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10170 Posts
March 19 2024 22:09 GMT
#10628
On March 20 2024 07:02 die_meatbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2024 06:59 Jealous wrote:
On March 20 2024 06:56 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 20 2024 06:51 Jealous wrote:
On March 20 2024 06:47 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 20 2024 06:43 Jealous wrote:
On March 20 2024 06:40 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 20 2024 06:36 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 20 2024 06:33 justanothertownie wrote:
Thats amazing. Doesnt matter if real or fake.

Why is that amazing?

Because it is really funny to me to imagine someone being so mad that individual sentences are written in a different language. And if you just made that up its still almost as funny. It is so alien to me.

When I stub my toe I still curse in Russian so I guess it makes sense to some extent, but I feel like with a keyboard in the way and having to switch languages in order to make it happen, it just feels unnatural tbh. I would never be so mad that I don't notice that I switched languages, because that is a highly intentional thing to do on a keyboard or phone. I call BS.


I really didn´t think so much about the language at this moment. I just wrote aggressively my thougths about this stupid town with this non sense voting shitshow and maybe switched in both languages.
I am used to switch fast language, because I talk to my work colleagues and some guests english as well, but as we speak here german and with have german speaking guests as well, I have to switch fast all the time.

But you don't use a keyboard for that though, for a keyboard you have to either press a certain specific key combination in order to achieve or use your mouse to do manually in your OS, so you were calm enough to turn German on and then off again with a very specific and accuracy-dependent method, but mad enough to write in German? Ok.

Btw writing and speaking utilize some different parts of the brain so making the argument that because you switch in your daily speaking life is not a great one for that reason, too.


wtf It´s not mandarin or arabic
I use the same keyboard with the same order of letters to write german or english.
I am learning with the same keyboard italien. I don´t need to change any settings for that.

I don´t turn anything of or on at the keyboard. We use the same 26 letters of the alphabet +äöü

How do you create äöü?


https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Deutsche_Tastatur_(wireless).png

thats how me keyboard looks like it´s on the side

On March 20 2024 07:02 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2024 06:59 Jealous wrote:
On March 20 2024 06:56 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 20 2024 06:51 Jealous wrote:
On March 20 2024 06:47 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 20 2024 06:43 Jealous wrote:
On March 20 2024 06:40 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 20 2024 06:36 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 20 2024 06:33 justanothertownie wrote:
Thats amazing. Doesnt matter if real or fake.

Why is that amazing?

Because it is really funny to me to imagine someone being so mad that individual sentences are written in a different language. And if you just made that up its still almost as funny. It is so alien to me.

When I stub my toe I still curse in Russian so I guess it makes sense to some extent, but I feel like with a keyboard in the way and having to switch languages in order to make it happen, it just feels unnatural tbh. I would never be so mad that I don't notice that I switched languages, because that is a highly intentional thing to do on a keyboard or phone. I call BS.


I really didn´t think so much about the language at this moment. I just wrote aggressively my thougths about this stupid town with this non sense voting shitshow and maybe switched in both languages.
I am used to switch fast language, because I talk to my work colleagues and some guests english as well, but as we speak here german and with have german speaking guests as well, I have to switch fast all the time.

But you don't use a keyboard for that though, for a keyboard you have to either press a certain specific key combination in order to achieve or use your mouse to do manually in your OS, so you were calm enough to turn German on and then off again with a very specific and accuracy-dependent method, but mad enough to write in German? Ok.

Btw writing and speaking utilize some different parts of the brain so making the argument that because you switch in your daily speaking life is not a great one for that reason, too.


wtf It´s not mandarin or arabic
I use the same keyboard with the same order of letters to write german or english.
I am learning with the same keyboard italien. I don´t need to change any settings for that.

I don´t turn anything of or on at the keyboard. We use the same 26 letters of the alphabet +äöü

How do you create äöü?

They are normal keys on a german keyboard. No effort necessary.

Okay, then it is more understandable, didn't realize that was a thing but makes sense.

Pretending to not notice and then post the translation is kinda still not, but whatever. Gonna drop it.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10170 Posts
March 19 2024 22:11 GMT
#10630
On March 20 2024 07:10 die_meatbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2024 07:08 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 20 2024 07:05 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 20 2024 07:04 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 20 2024 07:03 die_meatbaby wrote:
Is this here a serious question with the keyboard

I think jealous is serious. This line of questioning is not very productive though.


yeah and you are voting me instead of the one who want to make a case on me because of my german keyboard
thats even worse then palmar who made a case on me by counting how often I used the word fuck

Fair. Not why I am voting you though.


I'll say it again. He wants to make a case on me because of my keyboard.

What have I done thats worse then that?

Слишком много вещей чтобы перечислить тут.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10170 Posts
March 19 2024 22:12 GMT
#10633
On March 20 2024 07:12 iamperfection wrote:
Hey, it's a site rule don't make me get my beating stick

I'm so mad though!

"Too many things to list here."
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10170 Posts
March 19 2024 22:36 GMT
#10655
Only possible explanations I can come up with for this change of direction:

1. Y'all actually think I'm more likely to flip scum than the scummiest player in the game.
2. Y'all actually think I could be on a team with DMB.

I find both of these highly implausible so y'all must be scum tbh.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10170 Posts
March 19 2024 22:38 GMT
#10658
On March 20 2024 07:34 die_meatbaby wrote:
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On March 20 2024 07:33 DarthPunk wrote:
I’m jumping on the pc to explain why.


be aware writing on a non american keyboard is scummy

I didn't mean an actual physical keyboard obviously. I meant going through the process of switching languages on the same device. I didn't know those German keyboards looked like that where you could legitimately type in both languages without changing input methods.

Still, super unlikely to be unintentional.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10170 Posts
March 19 2024 22:52 GMT
#10660
[QUOTE]On March 20 2024 05:17 die_meatbaby wrote:
[QUOTE]On March 20 2024 05:12 iamperfection wrote:
[QUOTE]On March 20 2024 05:09 die_meatbaby wrote:
[QUOTE]On March 20 2024 05:06 iamperfection wrote:
Why did you vote Jealous immediately at start of day?[/QUOTE]
because of his voting switch

[QUOTE]On March 20 2024 05:00 die_meatbaby wrote:

[QUOTE] There was no logical reason that he swapped his vote on Dp with me. Thinking of his situation it would be better to stick on Palmar and save himself... But it would make more sense to have the vote on dp so that not all 3 scum a voting the same person.[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]
I don't understand so he's scum because he didn't risk self preservation.[/QUOTE]


Yeah thats what I was thought and still kinda think why he could be scum. I just assume it´s 100 % dp and Rels togther the 3rd person is either him or Jat. But if you all still think of dp and rels as Town. I will just accept my death, the end of the game, that town lost and congratulation on dp and Rels for getting so many Town wagons to a lynch
80 page scum filter amazing but not for dp.[/QUOTE]
I mean, this is just incredible. What stronger case could I possibly make? Never gild the lily.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10170 Posts
March 19 2024 22:54 GMT
#10661
On March 20 2024 07:52 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2024 05:17 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 20 2024 05:12 iamperfection wrote:
On March 20 2024 05:09 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 20 2024 05:06 iamperfection wrote:
Why did you vote Jealous immediately at start of day?

because of his voting switch

On March 20 2024 05:00 die_meatbaby wrote:

There was no logical reason that he swapped his vote on Dp with me. Thinking of his situation it would be better to stick on Palmar and save himself... But it would make more sense to have the vote on dp so that not all 3 scum a voting the same person.

I don't understand so he's scum because he didn't risk self preservation.



Yeah thats what I was thought and still kinda think why he could be scum. I just assume it´s 100 % dp and Rels togther the 3rd person is either him or Jat. But if you all still think of dp and rels as Town. I will just accept my death, the end of the game, that town lost and congratulation on dp and Rels for getting so many Town wagons to a lynch
80 page scum filter amazing but not for dp.

I mean, this is just incredible. What stronger case could I possibly make? Never gild the lily.

Fixed the BBCode.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10170 Posts
March 19 2024 23:03 GMT
#10669
On March 20 2024 08:01 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2024 07:58 DarthPunk wrote:
Then only thing that DMB's defense has done is make me think that maybe jealous is town over someone like Jat, who should be a better analyst than he is being here.

Okay dude. If these 2 are both mafia I have been correct for a few days while you lynched several townies. Just saying.

Just out of curiosity, in this hypothetical scum team, are DMB, myself, and another likely sane person coordinating all of this madness, or are we just letting DMB do DMB things and trying to react accordingly?
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10170 Posts
March 19 2024 23:16 GMT
#10680
On March 20 2024 08:06 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2024 08:02 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 20 2024 08:01 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 20 2024 07:58 DarthPunk wrote:
Then only thing that DMB's defense has done is make me think that maybe jealous is town over someone like Jat, who should be a better analyst than he is being here.

Okay dude. If these 2 are both mafia I have been correct for a few days while you lynched several townies. Just saying.


What convinced you about DMB's defense then?

Explain it to me.

I think she is legitimately mad. Now that does not mean she is town of course. Her read progression for everything except her scumread on you is terrible. I think it is worth it to put Jealous through this too though and see how people react, especially since I am not the biggest fan of his contributions today. Your reaction has been duly noted.

I'm tapped out, man. After like 3+ IRL days of being hounded and misrepped by Vivax nonstop, doing several filter dives and analyses, several list posts... If I am still the lynch target after all of that and DMB's non sequitur outbursts are NAI, then it simply ain't worth it. I think I've been through enough.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10170 Posts
March 19 2024 23:49 GMT
#10704
On March 20 2024 08:03 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2024 08:01 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 20 2024 07:58 DarthPunk wrote:
Then only thing that DMB's defense has done is make me think that maybe jealous is town over someone like Jat, who should be a better analyst than he is being here.

Okay dude. If these 2 are both mafia I have been correct for a few days while you lynched several townies. Just saying.

Just out of curiosity, in this hypothetical scum team, are DMB, myself, and another likely sane person coordinating all of this madness, or are we just letting DMB do DMB things and trying to react accordingly?

"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10170 Posts
March 20 2024 00:20 GMT
#10716
On March 20 2024 08:28 DarthPunk wrote:
Jealous have you got a POE of 3 scum reads that is up to date?

Here's a possible DMB x JAT x iamp case:

JAT x iamp:

+ Show Spoiler +
On March 05 2024 05:57 justanothertownie wrote:
I think I like the direction that seems to have formed of Iamp, Rayn, marv and to a lesser degree sandro as a council of sorts. I had at least 3-4 moments in the early pages where Iamp posted exactly what I was thinking at the time. Rayn seems reasonable so far (but him masoning marv is probably something he does as either alignment) and I agree that marv masoning sandro is a move that is more likely to come from town.
Would still prefer if people used the thread to communicate even though it would make catching up even harder.

On March 05 2024 07:56 justanothertownie wrote:
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On March 05 2024 07:51 iamperfection wrote:
On March 05 2024 07:46 DarthPunk wrote:
Does anyone know why rayn thinks I am mafia?

Probably because you want to make vivax mayor. Which is insane imo we have someone who already made a terrible decision and you want to give said person more power. He probably thinks your smarter then that and concluded you must be mafia to not see that.

^ That would make sense.

On March 07 2024 03:25 justanothertownie wrote:
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On March 07 2024 03:22 CopCake wrote:
On March 07 2024 03:21 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 07 2024 03:20 CopCake wrote:
On March 07 2024 03:14 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 07 2024 03:12 CopCake wrote:
On March 06 2024 12:39 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 06 2024 12:37 CopCake wrote:
So my theory is that Tfrel got lynched because mafia big boys are scared of him.


He got lynched because of his end of day posts.

I was about to swap to JAT and he basically claimed mafia ITT


O_o

Who are the mafia big boys who lynched Trfel though?


My filter is there. Why are you asking me this?

Because I thought you might enlighten me without me having to go to your filter. DP obviously. Who else?


Iamp, Vivax, Palmar

Ok. Vivax and Iamp pushed that for sure - I just don't think they are very likely to be mafia. Palmar was happy to sit on me through the whole thing. I don't remember him pushing Trfel.

On March 08 2024 00:46 justanothertownie wrote:
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On March 08 2024 00:35 iamperfection wrote:
On March 08 2024 00:31 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 08 2024 00:29 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 08 2024 00:23 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 08 2024 00:14 Jealous wrote:
On March 08 2024 00:09 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 08 2024 00:07 Jealous wrote:
On March 08 2024 00:01 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 07 2024 23:58 Jealous wrote:
[quote]
Updates from Oats' filter since the above reads list:
2847: Voted JAT anyway despite townreading him, to give Trfel "time to play." Because of where the votes were, I am not gonna change alignments here, but it should be noted that Oats had JAT as town and Trfel as NA.
3414: "Jsl saying that koshi’s thing was a scumslip but DMB’s thing wasn’t a scumslip is super sus"
3861: "I’m just laughing at the jealous post completely accepting that he’s acting in an anti town manner because of “probability”" <- I don't think this is enough for me to assume they SR me but who knows.
3990: "For claim reactions, I think that the way jealous reacted felt very preplanned and lining up the mislynches, what do you think?" <- This is closer to an accusation IMO.*
4067: "Overall, it just doesn’t seem like mz has natural progressions and is not trying to find mafia"
4013: "If this means that you think slam is cop then yes I agree "

So we have:

Town:
Koshi
Iamperfection
Rayn
Palmar
Vivax
JAT
Alakaslam

NA:
DarthPunk
sandroba
Trfel
marvellosity
Hapahauli
ToTheStars
Rels

Scum:
Meapak_Ziphh
Jealous
[?]*
Jacob
VE
DMB
CopCake


Also: "I do agree that either both [rayn and marv] are mafia or rayn is town."

@Oatsmaster: Is this updated reads list of yours accurate? What would you change and why?

Jacob is town, cop is town, tothestars is mafia. You are null, jat is mafia

Updated list:

Town:
Koshi
Iamperfection
Palmar
Vivax
JAT
Jacob
CopCake
Alakaslam

NA:
DarthPunk
marvellosity
ToTheStars
Rels
Jealous

Scum:
JAT
Meapak_Ziphh
Jacob
ToTheStars
VE
DMB
CopCake


Can you elaborate on the above changes? Old positions crossed out, new positions should be accurate.

On March 08 2024 00:01 Oatsmaster wrote:
How did you get jat is town from my filter

From this, quoted above in response to the original list:
Oh sorry I misread but I think vivax is town now and jat is town now

Oh that was night wifom, he’s definitely scum

Alright. Also found your TTS reasoning above, so we can skip that one.

1. I'm guessing Jacob town because of the role claim, correct?
2. Why is JAT scum?
3. And why is CopCake town?

I really don’t like the way he was absolving himself of responsibility on day 1 and sheeping marv wholesale while claiming marv wasn’t a townread for him.
Today hes said twice now about the check possibly being altered but he’s seems to have said it just to say it without fully considering what the options are

There are no options, Oats. If you are town you have been very unfortunate. Or slam is mafia, which I think is very unlikely. In each case, the correct play is always to lynch you today.

The correct play is to lynch mafia.

The man makes a good point.

Such smart

On March 07 2024 02:43 justanothertownie wrote:
Trfel (11): iamperfection, Alakaslam, Justanothertownie, marvellosity, Koshi, VisceraEyes, Vivax, Jealous, DarthPunk, JacobStrangelove, sandroba

I think this wagon is overall quite towny (both claimants, marv, koshi, iamp, sandro). The only player that really seems suspicious at first glance is VE. There is probably someone else hiding in here but the people on my wagon look markedly worse on average. Which makes sense since they would probably rather be on the townie that doesn't immediately flip.


^ This is just from the first two days and they are practically blowing each other. I'm gonna keep digging to see if there are any discrepancies but to my recollection it was never like they filtered one another or anything.

Then there is the fact that they just both happened to switch to me and then say "ah yea won't be around much tomorrow btw." Like, yea, plausible, but could easily be a coordinated push that only appears whimsical. They also seemed to just give DMB a free pass way too often this game. Combine that with this:

On March 06 2024 11:07 Oatsmaster wrote:
Oh sorry I misread but I think vivax is town now and jat is town now
Jacob more null slam town

Town:
Koshi
Iamperfection
Rayn
Palmar
Vivax
JAT
Slam

NA:
DarthPunk
sandroba
Trfel
marvellosity
Jealous

Meapak_Ziphh
Hapahauli
ToTheStars
Rels
Jacob

Scum:
VE
DMB
CopCake

---
So this is Oats' updated "read list." We know he was bussing DMB hard if it's scumgoon!DMB, which I think would make the most sense to be honest, as it would paint him in a really good light when she flips red, let him survive one day longer at minimum as framer.

This would then make his town "reads" of JAT/iamp have a lot of value, and putting them with other confirmed town would give them good insulation. Let's not forget who voted for VE over Oats:

+ Show Spoiler +
Day Two Vote Count

Oatsmaster (9): Alakaslam, Jealous, JacobStrangelove, Rels, Meapak_Ziphh, iamperfection, DarthPunk, die_meatbaby, CopCake, justanothertownie, ToTheStars, Koshi, marvellosity, JacobStrangelove, Alakaslam
VisceraEyes (7): Koshi, Oatsmaster, iamperfection, Vivax, Palmar, Alakaslam, Meapak_Ziphh, iamperfection, CopCake
Palmar (0): Oatsmaster, CopCake, iamperfection, JacobStrangelove, CopCake
Jealous (0): CopCake
justanothertownie (0): Vivax, Oatsmaster
ToTheStars (0): iamperfection, Oatsmaster
marvellosity (0): Vivax
die_meatbaby (0): Oatsmaster
VisceraEyes (0): iamperfection
CopCake (0): Jealous

Not Voting (1): VisceraEyes

With 9 votes, Oatsmaster is currently set to be lynched!

The deadline is Saturday, Mar 09 3:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in


Hint: It's iamp.

Both of them were on TTS at one point. Iamp was moving his vote almost as much as Oats was. Iamp was on three different townies' wagons on the day of a red flip, and stuck to it in the end.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10170 Posts
March 20 2024 00:33 GMT
#10722
On March 20 2024 09:23 DarthPunk wrote:
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On March 20 2024 09:20 Jealous wrote:
On March 20 2024 08:28 DarthPunk wrote:
Jealous have you got a POE of 3 scum reads that is up to date?

Here's a possible DMB x JAT x iamp case:

JAT x iamp:

+ Show Spoiler +
On March 05 2024 05:57 justanothertownie wrote:
I think I like the direction that seems to have formed of Iamp, Rayn, marv and to a lesser degree sandro as a council of sorts. I had at least 3-4 moments in the early pages where Iamp posted exactly what I was thinking at the time. Rayn seems reasonable so far (but him masoning marv is probably something he does as either alignment) and I agree that marv masoning sandro is a move that is more likely to come from town.
Would still prefer if people used the thread to communicate even though it would make catching up even harder.

On March 05 2024 07:56 justanothertownie wrote:
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On March 05 2024 07:51 iamperfection wrote:
On March 05 2024 07:46 DarthPunk wrote:
Does anyone know why rayn thinks I am mafia?

Probably because you want to make vivax mayor. Which is insane imo we have someone who already made a terrible decision and you want to give said person more power. He probably thinks your smarter then that and concluded you must be mafia to not see that.

^ That would make sense.

On March 07 2024 03:25 justanothertownie wrote:
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On March 07 2024 03:22 CopCake wrote:
On March 07 2024 03:21 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 07 2024 03:20 CopCake wrote:
On March 07 2024 03:14 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 07 2024 03:12 CopCake wrote:
On March 06 2024 12:39 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 06 2024 12:37 CopCake wrote:
So my theory is that Tfrel got lynched because mafia big boys are scared of him.


He got lynched because of his end of day posts.

I was about to swap to JAT and he basically claimed mafia ITT


O_o

Who are the mafia big boys who lynched Trfel though?


My filter is there. Why are you asking me this?

Because I thought you might enlighten me without me having to go to your filter. DP obviously. Who else?


Iamp, Vivax, Palmar

Ok. Vivax and Iamp pushed that for sure - I just don't think they are very likely to be mafia. Palmar was happy to sit on me through the whole thing. I don't remember him pushing Trfel.

On March 08 2024 00:46 justanothertownie wrote:
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On March 08 2024 00:35 iamperfection wrote:
On March 08 2024 00:31 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 08 2024 00:29 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 08 2024 00:23 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 08 2024 00:14 Jealous wrote:
On March 08 2024 00:09 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 08 2024 00:07 Jealous wrote:
On March 08 2024 00:01 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 07 2024 23:58 Jealous wrote:
[quote]
Updates from Oats' filter since the above reads list:
2847: Voted JAT anyway despite townreading him, to give Trfel "time to play." Because of where the votes were, I am not gonna change alignments here, but it should be noted that Oats had JAT as town and Trfel as NA.
3414: "Jsl saying that koshi’s thing was a scumslip but DMB’s thing wasn’t a scumslip is super sus"
3861: "I’m just laughing at the jealous post completely accepting that he’s acting in an anti town manner because of “probability”" <- I don't think this is enough for me to assume they SR me but who knows.
3990: "For claim reactions, I think that the way jealous reacted felt very preplanned and lining up the mislynches, what do you think?" <- This is closer to an accusation IMO.*
4067: "Overall, it just doesn’t seem like mz has natural progressions and is not trying to find mafia"
4013: "If this means that you think slam is cop then yes I agree "

So we have:

Town:
Koshi
Iamperfection
Rayn
Palmar
Vivax
JAT
Alakaslam

NA:
DarthPunk
sandroba
Trfel
marvellosity
Hapahauli
ToTheStars
Rels

Scum:
Meapak_Ziphh
Jealous
[?]*
Jacob
VE
DMB
CopCake


Also: "I do agree that either both [rayn and marv] are mafia or rayn is town."

@Oatsmaster: Is this updated reads list of yours accurate? What would you change and why?

Jacob is town, cop is town, tothestars is mafia. You are null, jat is mafia

Updated list:

Town:
Koshi
Iamperfection
Palmar
Vivax
JAT
Jacob
CopCake
Alakaslam

NA:
DarthPunk
marvellosity
ToTheStars
Rels
Jealous

Scum:
JAT
Meapak_Ziphh
Jacob
ToTheStars
VE
DMB
CopCake


Can you elaborate on the above changes? Old positions crossed out, new positions should be accurate.

On March 08 2024 00:01 Oatsmaster wrote:
How did you get jat is town from my filter

From this, quoted above in response to the original list:
Oh sorry I misread but I think vivax is town now and jat is town now

Oh that was night wifom, he’s definitely scum

Alright. Also found your TTS reasoning above, so we can skip that one.

1. I'm guessing Jacob town because of the role claim, correct?
2. Why is JAT scum?
3. And why is CopCake town?

I really don’t like the way he was absolving himself of responsibility on day 1 and sheeping marv wholesale while claiming marv wasn’t a townread for him.
Today hes said twice now about the check possibly being altered but he’s seems to have said it just to say it without fully considering what the options are

There are no options, Oats. If you are town you have been very unfortunate. Or slam is mafia, which I think is very unlikely. In each case, the correct play is always to lynch you today.

The correct play is to lynch mafia.

The man makes a good point.

Such smart

On March 07 2024 02:43 justanothertownie wrote:
Trfel (11): iamperfection, Alakaslam, Justanothertownie, marvellosity, Koshi, VisceraEyes, Vivax, Jealous, DarthPunk, JacobStrangelove, sandroba

I think this wagon is overall quite towny (both claimants, marv, koshi, iamp, sandro). The only player that really seems suspicious at first glance is VE. There is probably someone else hiding in here but the people on my wagon look markedly worse on average. Which makes sense since they would probably rather be on the townie that doesn't immediately flip.


^ This is just from the first two days and they are practically blowing each other. I'm gonna keep digging to see if there are any discrepancies but to my recollection it was never like they filtered one another or anything.

Then there is the fact that they just both happened to switch to me and then say "ah yea won't be around much tomorrow btw." Like, yea, plausible, but could easily be a coordinated push that only appears whimsical. They also seemed to just give DMB a free pass way too often this game. Combine that with this:

On March 06 2024 11:07 Oatsmaster wrote:
Oh sorry I misread but I think vivax is town now and jat is town now
Jacob more null slam town

Town:
Koshi
Iamperfection
Rayn
Palmar
Vivax
JAT
Slam

NA:
DarthPunk
sandroba
Trfel
marvellosity
Jealous

Meapak_Ziphh
Hapahauli
ToTheStars
Rels
Jacob

Scum:
VE
DMB
CopCake

---
So this is Oats' updated "read list." We know he was bussing DMB hard if it's scumgoon!DMB, which I think would make the most sense to be honest, as it would paint him in a really good light when she flips red, let him survive one day longer at minimum as framer.

This would then make his town "reads" of JAT/iamp have a lot of value, and putting them with other confirmed town would give them good insulation. Let's not forget who voted for VE over Oats:

+ Show Spoiler +
Day Two Vote Count

Oatsmaster (9): Alakaslam, Jealous, JacobStrangelove, Rels, Meapak_Ziphh, iamperfection, DarthPunk, die_meatbaby, CopCake, justanothertownie, ToTheStars, Koshi, marvellosity, JacobStrangelove, Alakaslam
VisceraEyes (7): Koshi, Oatsmaster, iamperfection, Vivax, Palmar, Alakaslam, Meapak_Ziphh, iamperfection, CopCake
Palmar (0): Oatsmaster, CopCake, iamperfection, JacobStrangelove, CopCake
Jealous (0): CopCake
justanothertownie (0): Vivax, Oatsmaster
ToTheStars (0): iamperfection, Oatsmaster
marvellosity (0): Vivax
die_meatbaby (0): Oatsmaster
VisceraEyes (0): iamperfection
CopCake (0): Jealous

Not Voting (1): VisceraEyes

With 9 votes, Oatsmaster is currently set to be lynched!

The deadline is Saturday, Mar 09 3:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in


Hint: It's iamp.

Both of them were on TTS at one point. Iamp was moving his vote almost as much as Oats was. Iamp was on three different townies' wagons on the day of a red flip, and stuck to it in the end.


Is this what you actually consider most likely here?

Game is hard.

It's one of the potential teams that I think is plausible. Don't think there is another duo that has remained so supportive and unquestioning of each other in the game to be honest.

A DMB x You x someone team is also possible. After all, you did tell me that she was unassailable for an entire day cycle. You did survive a situation where you were at 3 votes and no one jumped on your wagon, and from my POV it was 3-3-3 TvTv?. You were the final jump to Palmar, possibly because jumping to me would make you look suspicious when I flip town while I was voting you, possibly because you thought I was more firmly in your pocket despite voting you.

I guess since JAT didn't answer my question for some reason, I'll ask you:

On March 20 2024 08:03 Jealous wrote:
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On March 20 2024 08:01 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 20 2024 07:58 DarthPunk wrote:
Then only thing that DMB's defense has done is make me think that maybe jealous is town over someone like Jat, who should be a better analyst than he is being here.

Okay dude. If these 2 are both mafia I have been correct for a few days while you lynched several townies. Just saying.

Just out of curiosity, in this hypothetical scum team, are DMB, myself, and another likely sane person coordinating all of this madness, or are we just letting DMB do DMB things and trying to react accordingly?


I know that JAT's point was going against yours in this case, so if it makes more sense to you, try to construct a different DMB team. What do you think that hypothetical team is doing?
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10170 Posts
March 20 2024 00:42 GMT
#10730
On March 14 2024 11:38 iamperfection wrote:
A lot of things have bothered me today. CopCake makes a case on Koshi and then just almost instantly drops it just because JAT says thats how Koshi plays and then votes Palmar. Why does cop just accept as true it confuses me. Meapak_Ziphh comes back after 19 hours says hes too tired to be bothered to do anything but he has found scum? and is somehow not voting????

I keep hearing this idiotic comment that marv said Palmar is 90% likely to be town. I get it you guys all worship marv but his word isnt gospel and he very well would probably be saying different things if he was still alive its day 4 now marv died in night 2.

Palmar really bothers me. He calls me scum because i have just been around not doing anything?? Like i said earlier you can say a lot of things about me but not engaged and not in the thick of things is certainly not one of them. I exposed the mason circle and tried to get reads from it. I correctly deduced that Rayn had to be town from the way he used it and almost immediately tried to make him mayor for it. Right or wrong i was screaming at the top of my longs to lynch tryfel it was wrong but so what. I have constantly been directing and calling out actions. I literally hammered VE in a quest for personal glory it backfired so what. To say i have been just around is objectively wrong.

Now Palmar says he dosnt really read the thread that he just shows hes around interacts and develops reads. I dont really feel like has done that all in this game. I think if anyone with a quarter of a brain which ill grant Palmar he has a quarter of a brain could easily use meta to see i am town. This would be by FAR the largest filter i have ever had as mafia. I would also say i am much less emotional as mafia and much more reserved. My style as town requires me to post a ton and usually in quick succession. Thats why i will have mind melds which happened earlier with marv where we said the same thing. As mafia that is extremely hard for me to replicate. At least for a long period. Also as mafia its very hard for me to long posts like this were i have to fake my thoughts i just have hard time to do it. So those long list posts and posts were i collect my thoughts like i had earlier and this one quite frankly are hard for me to do. I dont think Palmar is trying figure out my alignment because he is being bad or more likely just mafia.

Now do i think JAT could possibly be mafia. Yes its possible he had a post earlier where he almost knew that Koshi was mafia. {but iamperfection you said earlier that Koshi is likely town) well first of all stfu second there is a diffrence between knowing and thinking.

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On March 14 2024 04:32 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 14 2024 04:30 iamperfection wrote:
On March 14 2024 04:28 Koshi wrote:
On March 12 2024 12:40 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Man what the fuck.

This game is going to be extremely hard if townies are gonna self-vote, I feel like that's playing against your wincon. I absolutely hate martyring so pointlessly. I think that was still 100% the right lynch.

And now we're gonna have to solve the CopCake problem since she did exactly the same thing. She voted herself and peaced out when the vote was 7-4 with VE in the lead. Her vote made it 6-5, still with VE in the lead. She showed no problems with leaving her vote on randos the previous two days, and if she was scum, she had a safe place to park her vote on VE or a rando as nobody would have scumread her any harder than they already were for voting to save herself. Now granted, she didn't hammer herself, the closest she ever got was 7-6 against her 2 hours later. So, did town!cake just rage quit in the exact same manner that VE did? Or did scum!cake take a gamble, not realizing how close it was going to get? If it's the second option, Rel's desperation to save her pretty much guarantees him as scum in my eyes, but I still don't know if I can wrap my head around scum!cake doing that because the vote is so close I'd argue that's pretty close to intentionally throwing. Or maybe it's all #bigplays that I'm too stupid to understand.

I have a decent amount of thread to fully catch up on after just skimming to get through it, I focused more on the voting thread to try and figure out wtf both VE and cake were doing. I'm not surprised to see there were more shenanigans by certain people. I will also have a go at reading VE's filter although idk if there's much of a point.

What a town hero does. Analyse.

I kind of disagree. Feel like he just summed up what happened and listed every scenario. I don't think it's super town post.

You won't convince him. At this point Koshi is not reading MZs posts critically anymore.

not the biggest thing but the post bothers me. He also seems a bit apathetic to what is going on.

So yes i think its possible.

MZ's comeback post also bothers me and the fact that he isnt voting despite finding scum

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On March 14 2024 10:41 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm home, had a shit day so I really don't have the energy to jump into filters right now, especially since I've already found 1 scum at minimum this cycle. I'll hang around the thread and play some league if people want my opinions on anything just ask.



However in my eyes Palmar is the most likely mafia.


Can someone make a bulletpoint explanation for why this makes iamp town again?
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10170 Posts
March 20 2024 00:44 GMT
#10734
On March 20 2024 09:35 iamperfection wrote:
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On March 20 2024 09:33 Jealous wrote:
On March 20 2024 09:23 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 20 2024 09:20 Jealous wrote:
On March 20 2024 08:28 DarthPunk wrote:
Jealous have you got a POE of 3 scum reads that is up to date?

Here's a possible DMB x JAT x iamp case:

JAT x iamp:

+ Show Spoiler +
On March 05 2024 05:57 justanothertownie wrote:
I think I like the direction that seems to have formed of Iamp, Rayn, marv and to a lesser degree sandro as a council of sorts. I had at least 3-4 moments in the early pages where Iamp posted exactly what I was thinking at the time. Rayn seems reasonable so far (but him masoning marv is probably something he does as either alignment) and I agree that marv masoning sandro is a move that is more likely to come from town.
Would still prefer if people used the thread to communicate even though it would make catching up even harder.

On March 05 2024 07:56 justanothertownie wrote:
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On March 05 2024 07:51 iamperfection wrote:
On March 05 2024 07:46 DarthPunk wrote:
Does anyone know why rayn thinks I am mafia?

Probably because you want to make vivax mayor. Which is insane imo we have someone who already made a terrible decision and you want to give said person more power. He probably thinks your smarter then that and concluded you must be mafia to not see that.

^ That would make sense.

On March 07 2024 03:25 justanothertownie wrote:
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On March 07 2024 03:22 CopCake wrote:
On March 07 2024 03:21 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 07 2024 03:20 CopCake wrote:
On March 07 2024 03:14 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 07 2024 03:12 CopCake wrote:
On March 06 2024 12:39 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 06 2024 12:37 CopCake wrote:
So my theory is that Tfrel got lynched because mafia big boys are scared of him.


He got lynched because of his end of day posts.

I was about to swap to JAT and he basically claimed mafia ITT


O_o

Who are the mafia big boys who lynched Trfel though?


My filter is there. Why are you asking me this?

Because I thought you might enlighten me without me having to go to your filter. DP obviously. Who else?


Iamp, Vivax, Palmar

Ok. Vivax and Iamp pushed that for sure - I just don't think they are very likely to be mafia. Palmar was happy to sit on me through the whole thing. I don't remember him pushing Trfel.

On March 08 2024 00:46 justanothertownie wrote:
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On March 08 2024 00:35 iamperfection wrote:
On March 08 2024 00:31 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 08 2024 00:29 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 08 2024 00:23 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 08 2024 00:14 Jealous wrote:
On March 08 2024 00:09 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 08 2024 00:07 Jealous wrote:
On March 08 2024 00:01 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 07 2024 23:58 Jealous wrote:
[quote]
Updates from Oats' filter since the above reads list:
2847: Voted JAT anyway despite townreading him, to give Trfel "time to play." Because of where the votes were, I am not gonna change alignments here, but it should be noted that Oats had JAT as town and Trfel as NA.
3414: "Jsl saying that koshi’s thing was a scumslip but DMB’s thing wasn’t a scumslip is super sus"
3861: "I’m just laughing at the jealous post completely accepting that he’s acting in an anti town manner because of “probability”" <- I don't think this is enough for me to assume they SR me but who knows.
3990: "For claim reactions, I think that the way jealous reacted felt very preplanned and lining up the mislynches, what do you think?" <- This is closer to an accusation IMO.*
4067: "Overall, it just doesn’t seem like mz has natural progressions and is not trying to find mafia"
4013: "If this means that you think slam is cop then yes I agree "

So we have:

Town:
Koshi
Iamperfection
Rayn
Palmar
Vivax
JAT
Alakaslam

NA:
DarthPunk
sandroba
Trfel
marvellosity
Hapahauli
ToTheStars
Rels

Scum:
Meapak_Ziphh
Jealous
[?]*
Jacob
VE
DMB
CopCake


Also: "I do agree that either both [rayn and marv] are mafia or rayn is town."

@Oatsmaster: Is this updated reads list of yours accurate? What would you change and why?

Jacob is town, cop is town, tothestars is mafia. You are null, jat is mafia

Updated list:

Town:
Koshi
Iamperfection
Palmar
Vivax
JAT
Jacob
CopCake
Alakaslam

NA:
DarthPunk
marvellosity
ToTheStars
Rels
Jealous

Scum:
JAT
Meapak_Ziphh
Jacob
ToTheStars
VE
DMB
CopCake


Can you elaborate on the above changes? Old positions crossed out, new positions should be accurate.

On March 08 2024 00:01 Oatsmaster wrote:
How did you get jat is town from my filter

From this, quoted above in response to the original list:
Oh sorry I misread but I think vivax is town now and jat is town now

Oh that was night wifom, he’s definitely scum

Alright. Also found your TTS reasoning above, so we can skip that one.

1. I'm guessing Jacob town because of the role claim, correct?
2. Why is JAT scum?
3. And why is CopCake town?

I really don’t like the way he was absolving himself of responsibility on day 1 and sheeping marv wholesale while claiming marv wasn’t a townread for him.
Today hes said twice now about the check possibly being altered but he’s seems to have said it just to say it without fully considering what the options are

There are no options, Oats. If you are town you have been very unfortunate. Or slam is mafia, which I think is very unlikely. In each case, the correct play is always to lynch you today.

The correct play is to lynch mafia.

The man makes a good point.

Such smart

On March 07 2024 02:43 justanothertownie wrote:
Trfel (11): iamperfection, Alakaslam, Justanothertownie, marvellosity, Koshi, VisceraEyes, Vivax, Jealous, DarthPunk, JacobStrangelove, sandroba

I think this wagon is overall quite towny (both claimants, marv, koshi, iamp, sandro). The only player that really seems suspicious at first glance is VE. There is probably someone else hiding in here but the people on my wagon look markedly worse on average. Which makes sense since they would probably rather be on the townie that doesn't immediately flip.


^ This is just from the first two days and they are practically blowing each other. I'm gonna keep digging to see if there are any discrepancies but to my recollection it was never like they filtered one another or anything.

Then there is the fact that they just both happened to switch to me and then say "ah yea won't be around much tomorrow btw." Like, yea, plausible, but could easily be a coordinated push that only appears whimsical. They also seemed to just give DMB a free pass way too often this game. Combine that with this:

On March 06 2024 11:07 Oatsmaster wrote:
Oh sorry I misread but I think vivax is town now and jat is town now
Jacob more null slam town

Town:
Koshi
Iamperfection
Rayn
Palmar
Vivax
JAT
Slam

NA:
DarthPunk
sandroba
Trfel
marvellosity
Jealous

Meapak_Ziphh
Hapahauli
ToTheStars
Rels
Jacob

Scum:
VE
DMB
CopCake

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So this is Oats' updated "read list." We know he was bussing DMB hard if it's scumgoon!DMB, which I think would make the most sense to be honest, as it would paint him in a really good light when she flips red, let him survive one day longer at minimum as framer.

This would then make his town "reads" of JAT/iamp have a lot of value, and putting them with other confirmed town would give them good insulation. Let's not forget who voted for VE over Oats:

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Day Two Vote Count

Oatsmaster (9): Alakaslam, Jealous, JacobStrangelove, Rels, Meapak_Ziphh, iamperfection, DarthPunk, die_meatbaby, CopCake, justanothertownie, ToTheStars, Koshi, marvellosity, JacobStrangelove, Alakaslam
VisceraEyes (7): Koshi, Oatsmaster, iamperfection, Vivax, Palmar, Alakaslam, Meapak_Ziphh, iamperfection, CopCake
Palmar (0): Oatsmaster, CopCake, iamperfection, JacobStrangelove, CopCake
Jealous (0): CopCake
justanothertownie (0): Vivax, Oatsmaster
ToTheStars (0): iamperfection, Oatsmaster
marvellosity (0): Vivax
die_meatbaby (0): Oatsmaster
VisceraEyes (0): iamperfection
CopCake (0): Jealous

Not Voting (1): VisceraEyes

With 9 votes, Oatsmaster is currently set to be lynched!

The deadline is Saturday, Mar 09 3:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in


Hint: It's iamp.

Both of them were on TTS at one point. Iamp was moving his vote almost as much as Oats was. Iamp was on three different townies' wagons on the day of a red flip, and stuck to it in the end.


Is this what you actually consider most likely here?

Game is hard.

It's one of the potential teams that I think is plausible. Don't think there is another duo that has remained so supportive and unquestioning of each other in the game to be honest.

A DMB x You x someone team is also possible. After all, you did tell me that she was unassailable for an entire day cycle. You did survive a situation where you were at 3 votes and no one jumped on your wagon, and from my POV it was 3-3-3 TvTv?. You were the final jump to Palmar, possibly because jumping to me would make you look suspicious when I flip town while I was voting you, possibly because you thought I was more firmly in your pocket despite voting you.

I guess since JAT didn't answer my question for some reason, I'll ask you:

On March 20 2024 08:03 Jealous wrote:
On March 20 2024 08:01 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 20 2024 07:58 DarthPunk wrote:
Then only thing that DMB's defense has done is make me think that maybe jealous is town over someone like Jat, who should be a better analyst than he is being here.

Okay dude. If these 2 are both mafia I have been correct for a few days while you lynched several townies. Just saying.

Just out of curiosity, in this hypothetical scum team, are DMB, myself, and another likely sane person coordinating all of this madness, or are we just letting DMB do DMB things and trying to react accordingly?


I know that JAT's point was going against yours in this case, so if it makes more sense to you, try to construct a different DMB team. What do you think that hypothetical team is doing?

he did jump to you what do you mean


On March 18 2024 10:55 Grackaroni wrote:
Day Five Vote Count

Palmar (4): Rels, Meapak_Ziphh, Jealous, DarthPunk, iamperfection, DarthPunk
Jealous (3): Justanothertownie, DarthPunk, Vivax, Palmar, iamperfection, die_meatbaby, DarthPunk, Vivax
DarthPunk (2) : die_meatbaby, Jealous, Vivax
Meapak_Ziphh (0): Jealous

With 4 votes, Palmar is currently set to be lynched!

The deadline is Monday, Mar 18 2:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in


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Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10170 Posts
March 20 2024 00:46 GMT
#10737
On March 20 2024 09:43 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2024 09:42 Jealous wrote:
On March 14 2024 11:38 iamperfection wrote:
A lot of things have bothered me today. CopCake makes a case on Koshi and then just almost instantly drops it just because JAT says thats how Koshi plays and then votes Palmar. Why does cop just accept as true it confuses me. Meapak_Ziphh comes back after 19 hours says hes too tired to be bothered to do anything but he has found scum? and is somehow not voting????

I keep hearing this idiotic comment that marv said Palmar is 90% likely to be town. I get it you guys all worship marv but his word isnt gospel and he very well would probably be saying different things if he was still alive its day 4 now marv died in night 2.

Palmar really bothers me. He calls me scum because i have just been around not doing anything?? Like i said earlier you can say a lot of things about me but not engaged and not in the thick of things is certainly not one of them. I exposed the mason circle and tried to get reads from it. I correctly deduced that Rayn had to be town from the way he used it and almost immediately tried to make him mayor for it. Right or wrong i was screaming at the top of my longs to lynch tryfel it was wrong but so what. I have constantly been directing and calling out actions. I literally hammered VE in a quest for personal glory it backfired so what. To say i have been just around is objectively wrong.

Now Palmar says he dosnt really read the thread that he just shows hes around interacts and develops reads. I dont really feel like has done that all in this game. I think if anyone with a quarter of a brain which ill grant Palmar he has a quarter of a brain could easily use meta to see i am town. This would be by FAR the largest filter i have ever had as mafia. I would also say i am much less emotional as mafia and much more reserved. My style as town requires me to post a ton and usually in quick succession. Thats why i will have mind melds which happened earlier with marv where we said the same thing. As mafia that is extremely hard for me to replicate. At least for a long period. Also as mafia its very hard for me to long posts like this were i have to fake my thoughts i just have hard time to do it. So those long list posts and posts were i collect my thoughts like i had earlier and this one quite frankly are hard for me to do. I dont think Palmar is trying figure out my alignment because he is being bad or more likely just mafia.

Now do i think JAT could possibly be mafia. Yes its possible he had a post earlier where he almost knew that Koshi was mafia. {but iamperfection you said earlier that Koshi is likely town) well first of all stfu second there is a diffrence between knowing and thinking.

On March 14 2024 04:32 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 14 2024 04:30 iamperfection wrote:
On March 14 2024 04:28 Koshi wrote:
On March 12 2024 12:40 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Man what the fuck.

This game is going to be extremely hard if townies are gonna self-vote, I feel like that's playing against your wincon. I absolutely hate martyring so pointlessly. I think that was still 100% the right lynch.

And now we're gonna have to solve the CopCake problem since she did exactly the same thing. She voted herself and peaced out when the vote was 7-4 with VE in the lead. Her vote made it 6-5, still with VE in the lead. She showed no problems with leaving her vote on randos the previous two days, and if she was scum, she had a safe place to park her vote on VE or a rando as nobody would have scumread her any harder than they already were for voting to save herself. Now granted, she didn't hammer herself, the closest she ever got was 7-6 against her 2 hours later. So, did town!cake just rage quit in the exact same manner that VE did? Or did scum!cake take a gamble, not realizing how close it was going to get? If it's the second option, Rel's desperation to save her pretty much guarantees him as scum in my eyes, but I still don't know if I can wrap my head around scum!cake doing that because the vote is so close I'd argue that's pretty close to intentionally throwing. Or maybe it's all #bigplays that I'm too stupid to understand.

I have a decent amount of thread to fully catch up on after just skimming to get through it, I focused more on the voting thread to try and figure out wtf both VE and cake were doing. I'm not surprised to see there were more shenanigans by certain people. I will also have a go at reading VE's filter although idk if there's much of a point.

What a town hero does. Analyse.

I kind of disagree. Feel like he just summed up what happened and listed every scenario. I don't think it's super town post.

You won't convince him. At this point Koshi is not reading MZs posts critically anymore.

not the biggest thing but the post bothers me. He also seems a bit apathetic to what is going on.

So yes i think its possible.

MZ's comeback post also bothers me and the fact that he isnt voting despite finding scum

On March 14 2024 10:41 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm home, had a shit day so I really don't have the energy to jump into filters right now, especially since I've already found 1 scum at minimum this cycle. I'll hang around the thread and play some league if people want my opinions on anything just ask.



However in my eyes Palmar is the most likely mafia.


Can someone make a bulletpoint explanation for why this makes iamp town again?


Its the self meta analysis, which i am vouching for.

Doesn't mean much to me tbh. Seems more like he casts aspersions against a bunch of town, throws a soft scum read at JAT/MZ, and then parks on town!Palmar in the end anyway.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10170 Posts
March 20 2024 00:48 GMT
#10738
On March 20 2024 09:46 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2024 09:42 Jealous wrote:
On March 14 2024 11:38 iamperfection wrote:
A lot of things have bothered me today. CopCake makes a case on Koshi and then just almost instantly drops it just because JAT says thats how Koshi plays and then votes Palmar. Why does cop just accept as true it confuses me. Meapak_Ziphh comes back after 19 hours says hes too tired to be bothered to do anything but he has found scum? and is somehow not voting????

I keep hearing this idiotic comment that marv said Palmar is 90% likely to be town. I get it you guys all worship marv but his word isnt gospel and he very well would probably be saying different things if he was still alive its day 4 now marv died in night 2.

Palmar really bothers me. He calls me scum because i have just been around not doing anything?? Like i said earlier you can say a lot of things about me but not engaged and not in the thick of things is certainly not one of them. I exposed the mason circle and tried to get reads from it. I correctly deduced that Rayn had to be town from the way he used it and almost immediately tried to make him mayor for it. Right or wrong i was screaming at the top of my longs to lynch tryfel it was wrong but so what. I have constantly been directing and calling out actions. I literally hammered VE in a quest for personal glory it backfired so what. To say i have been just around is objectively wrong.

Now Palmar says he dosnt really read the thread that he just shows hes around interacts and develops reads. I dont really feel like has done that all in this game. I think if anyone with a quarter of a brain which ill grant Palmar he has a quarter of a brain could easily use meta to see i am town. This would be by FAR the largest filter i have ever had as mafia. I would also say i am much less emotional as mafia and much more reserved. My style as town requires me to post a ton and usually in quick succession. Thats why i will have mind melds which happened earlier with marv where we said the same thing. As mafia that is extremely hard for me to replicate. At least for a long period. Also as mafia its very hard for me to long posts like this were i have to fake my thoughts i just have hard time to do it. So those long list posts and posts were i collect my thoughts like i had earlier and this one quite frankly are hard for me to do. I dont think Palmar is trying figure out my alignment because he is being bad or more likely just mafia.

Now do i think JAT could possibly be mafia. Yes its possible he had a post earlier where he almost knew that Koshi was mafia. {but iamperfection you said earlier that Koshi is likely town) well first of all stfu second there is a diffrence between knowing and thinking.

On March 14 2024 04:32 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 14 2024 04:30 iamperfection wrote:
On March 14 2024 04:28 Koshi wrote:
On March 12 2024 12:40 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Man what the fuck.

This game is going to be extremely hard if townies are gonna self-vote, I feel like that's playing against your wincon. I absolutely hate martyring so pointlessly. I think that was still 100% the right lynch.

And now we're gonna have to solve the CopCake problem since she did exactly the same thing. She voted herself and peaced out when the vote was 7-4 with VE in the lead. Her vote made it 6-5, still with VE in the lead. She showed no problems with leaving her vote on randos the previous two days, and if she was scum, she had a safe place to park her vote on VE or a rando as nobody would have scumread her any harder than they already were for voting to save herself. Now granted, she didn't hammer herself, the closest she ever got was 7-6 against her 2 hours later. So, did town!cake just rage quit in the exact same manner that VE did? Or did scum!cake take a gamble, not realizing how close it was going to get? If it's the second option, Rel's desperation to save her pretty much guarantees him as scum in my eyes, but I still don't know if I can wrap my head around scum!cake doing that because the vote is so close I'd argue that's pretty close to intentionally throwing. Or maybe it's all #bigplays that I'm too stupid to understand.

I have a decent amount of thread to fully catch up on after just skimming to get through it, I focused more on the voting thread to try and figure out wtf both VE and cake were doing. I'm not surprised to see there were more shenanigans by certain people. I will also have a go at reading VE's filter although idk if there's much of a point.

What a town hero does. Analyse.

I kind of disagree. Feel like he just summed up what happened and listed every scenario. I don't think it's super town post.

You won't convince him. At this point Koshi is not reading MZs posts critically anymore.

not the biggest thing but the post bothers me. He also seems a bit apathetic to what is going on.

So yes i think its possible.

MZ's comeback post also bothers me and the fact that he isnt voting despite finding scum

On March 14 2024 10:41 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm home, had a shit day so I really don't have the energy to jump into filters right now, especially since I've already found 1 scum at minimum this cycle. I'll hang around the thread and play some league if people want my opinions on anything just ask.



However in my eyes Palmar is the most likely mafia.


Can someone make a bulletpoint explanation for why this makes iamp town again?

why do you keep on implying wrong = mafia

Misrep. I'm not implying that wrong = mafia, that's obvious, because I was wrong on CopCake, to a less-committed extent VE, and more recently Palmar. I'm trying to understand how it makes you town, though, which it doesn't.
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