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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
March 07 2024 02:22 GMT
#3721
Who is missing off my list in your opinion jealous?
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 07 2024 02:23 GMT
#3722
Cake having and pushing her theory that the whole scum team conspired D1 to kill Trfel because they were scared of him is really townie
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
March 07 2024 02:23 GMT
#3723
Who does our confirmed town think is scum? An Ode to Trifel.


Puts a fair amount of pressure on MZ

Questions Vivax over his town dp read.

Thinks Oatsmaster is reasonable.

But then flips and calls MZ town. Quite town.

(this part of the reason he gets lynched but we know in hindsight it’s true)

Likes Diebaby’s post. Later thinks they are town.

Does not think Iamperfection is town.

Thinks Copcake is town as well.

Votes for Vivax and Palmer.

Says Don’t Lynch oatsmaster and slam also likes copcake.

Likes DMB again

Says don’t lynch mz

Loop at IMP

Hmm honestly kinda the inverse of my view but it's coming from town so I might have to re-evaluate my entire perspective.
die_meatbaby
Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
March 07 2024 02:24 GMT
#3724
On March 07 2024 11:01 Jealous wrote:
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On March 07 2024 10:51 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 07 2024 10:42 Jealous wrote:
On March 07 2024 10:11 die_meatbaby wrote:
But trying to become mayor as mafia is very risky and stupid. Even I understand that.

So does that mean that all of the following have to be town?
Vivax (13), raynpelikoneet (3), Oatsmaster (1), Koshi (1)

On March 07 2024 10:11 die_meatbaby wrote:
Town dp would feel attacked if you call him mafia and would names reasons why he is not.
Mafia dp plays it of cool, that you don't see the fear of being discovered.

Maybe this is a DP thing, or maybe I'm different from most, or maybe I'm just stupid... But how much evidence can DP have to name reasons for why he is not mafia when we're what, 16 hours into D1? Maybe the volume they put out... but still, let's have a thought experiment:

What arguments would you have for your own innocence at this point in the game?

On March 07 2024 10:11 die_meatbaby wrote:
Regardless of what I think about cake, but it seems to me that he picks weaker players to annoy until they make a mistake because of beeing annoyd and then he can push the wagon that comes up.

I made an error out the gate (not catching that Alakaslam cop-claimed) and I didn't get my head bit off for it by anyone. It was corrected and we kept it moving. So, I think this point is overblown. If you're not scum, "mistakes" don't magically make you scum, IMO. The mistake itself has to be AI.

On March 07 2024 10:11 die_meatbaby wrote:
He waits hours but no body jumps on a cake wagon or he already sees that that wagon will not be successful. So he need to get someelse, but thats good for his record, because Town DP change often his vote just usually with good reasons.

If it wasn't his meta already then I could see this being potentially being true/AI, but because you say that it is his meta... I don't get your point here?

On March 07 2024 10:11 die_meatbaby wrote:
Thats the only Post I like. He should play a little bit and then we lynch Ve because thats a vote for active Town

Please clarify your logic here, too.


That does not mean that this people are Town for me.
It has something to do with my experience of DP's personality. Sorry if I didn´t make that clear.

Okay, I can believe that you believe this 👍

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On March 07 2024 10:51 die_meatbaby wrote:
What arguments would you have for your own innocence at this point in the game?

Regardless of my aligment I would not start a fight with dp without having do!!!
As mafia I would not do that. That would take the fun away as I had in the last game trying to lynch Palmar
As Town I just to it because I don´t have something more importend in my head.

This I am having a much harder time following.

If I understand correctly you say that you wouldn't argue with DP regardless of your alignment, then you say you would not do it as mafia, and then you say you would do it as town?

Perhaps this will be easier, allow me to rephrase:

In this specific game, what can you point to as being reasons for why you are town by the 16 hour mark?

I'm just struggling to understand what your ideal response from DP would be here. If someone put me on the spot like that, frankly I'd just be like:
[image loading]

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On March 07 2024 10:51 die_meatbaby wrote:
And the Ve post is good
He doesn´t really want to play anymore because we always lynch him early.
Compassion would be the best description

The way you responded to it is "let them play, then lynch them because they are an active townie," which doesn't make much sense to me as "compassion"? As Jacob said above, that almost sounds like a scumslip, but I am sure I must be misunderstanding something or you misspoke.



Starting a discussion with Dp with my English, his ambition and his never-ending questions get on my nerves. I would never voluntarily start a discussion with him if I didn't have to and the only reason I do it is because he is my main scum read.
Being scum was really fun for me and that would take the fun out of it ergo I can not be scum

Also the our major is slapping my ass while i try to translate my thougts correctly. Pls for god sake I have to concentrate Vivax
Everything has an end only the sausage has two
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
March 07 2024 02:25 GMT
#3725
Look* at IMP

Doesn't mean it's accurate but genuine counts for a lot.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 07 2024 02:27 GMT
#3726
On March 06 2024 14:41 DarthPunk wrote:
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On March 06 2024 14:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 06 2024 14:33 DarthPunk wrote:
Does anyone have a strong read on rels?


Very good push towards Palmar.


Do you mean this series of posts?

+ Show Spoiler +
On March 06 2024 08:05 Rels wrote:
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On March 06 2024 00:19 Palmar wrote:
On March 06 2024 00:10 marvellosity wrote:
On March 06 2024 00:07 Palmar wrote:
On March 06 2024 00:00 marvellosity wrote:
Do you know why I normally tr read you Palmar?

No idea.

Or well, I do have a guess that it's largely a tone read coupled with some parameters on how I think about the game.

Honestly, doesn't really matter to me. But please do explain because I'm going to enjoy watching your backtrack if I flip before you this game.

Unless....

You just wanna be my friend and give me a townread.



And - i know you know I don’t push for you like this as mafia. As if you are town I am putting myself in an incredibly difficult spot when the person I know best flips town. It’s a terrible play. The only logical explanation is I am town and I think you are mafia.

See this is only valid if I genuinely believe you want to play the game. You would be perfectly happy trading yourself for a 1v1 lynch as mafia IF you don't really want to play.

There is a reason I said earlier that I can't call you scum for being lazy, but I also can't call you town for kinda... lazily pushing me. If you had 15 pages of filter and were hammering down on me with the wrath of a thousand suns you'd be town.

As for now, I don't know, and I don't really think it's productive for us to argue about it. Just go read other people and see what you find. Maybe talk to Sandroba in your friend chat.


Not done reading Palmar's filter, but this reads like Palmar doesn't know what to do. I can see scum!Palmar posting this. Especially since he was pretty confident earlier in his filter that marv would never push him as scum


On March 06 2024 08:07 Rels wrote:
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On March 05 2024 09:51 Palmar wrote:
Cba arguing with marv now but did make a mental note of him posting about vivax probably being town but not wanting to mayor him. Weird take because voting town mayor is always best. Can just bully them into lynching theme way we want.

But ironically I’m not sure marv would call me mafia as scum because he has no idea if I’m gonna put in work tomorrow or be lazy. But it’s all very weak and I’m not day 1 lynching players who can be relied on to actually try later on in the game.

I liked some Koshi posts


This is what I had in mind. Less strong than I thought but yeah, at the beginning of the marv push, the mentality was "marv wouldn't push me as scum". Let's see where that changes
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On March 05 2024 22:43 Palmar wrote:
On March 05 2024 22:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
--- Wall of text ---


Just so I get it clear.

a) Marv votes me and nowhere in your interactions he discusses or mentions the possibility of me being mafia?
b) You don't think that's strange at all?

Like you say twice I could be mafia, fine.

But you don't think it's weird marv doesn't even ponder it in a chat with you? The most important thing he does during the day phase is voting, and he is voting a player he likes and knows very well, and doesn't make a single comment about it?

Not weird?


I guess there, throwing shade at marv


On March 06 2024 08:13 Rels wrote:
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On March 05 2024 23:59 Palmar wrote:
On March 05 2024 23:56 marvellosity wrote:
On March 05 2024 23:55 Palmar wrote:
On March 05 2024 23:53 marvellosity wrote:
On March 05 2024 22:43 Palmar wrote:
On March 05 2024 22:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
--- Wall of text ---


Just so I get it clear.

a) Marv votes me and nowhere in your interactions he discusses or mentions the possibility of me being mafia?
b) You don't think that's strange at all?

Like you say twice I could be mafia, fine.

But you don't think it's weird marv doesn't even ponder it in a chat with you? The most important thing he does during the day phase is voting, and he is voting a player he likes and knows very well, and doesn't make a single comment about it?

Not weird?


Not weird because you hadn’t posted, you useless sack of crap

I don't agree.

I'm not saying you had to make a case on me. But I feel like you should at least say something "hey Palmar is being useless, maybe we should just kill him, at least try and force him to play a bit"

Or anything, really.

It's not a huge deal, but like, that means your chat is pretty non-interactive, which is weird because you both seem to townread each other.

Our chat was very active during the day.

Youlll notice I’ve been more active in the thread since as I am trying to play here.

You also know I don’t need anyone to confirm a read I have on you. What is anyone going to tell me that I don’t know?

No I know that, that's not the point.

It just feels out of character. You do like to ponder. You rarely do the guns blazing thing, that's my thing.

Doesn't match with this later post:
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On March 06 2024 00:19 Palmar wrote:
On March 06 2024 00:10 marvellosity wrote:
On March 06 2024 00:07 Palmar wrote:
On March 06 2024 00:00 marvellosity wrote:
Do you know why I normally tr read you Palmar?

No idea.

Or well, I do have a guess that it's largely a tone read coupled with some parameters on how I think about the game.

Honestly, doesn't really matter to me. But please do explain because I'm going to enjoy watching your backtrack if I flip before you this game.

Unless....

You just wanna be my friend and give me a townread.



And - i know you know I don’t push for you like this as mafia. As if you are town I am putting myself in an incredibly difficult spot when the person I know best flips town. It’s a terrible play. The only logical explanation is I am town and I think you are mafia.

See this is only valid if I genuinely believe you want to play the game. You would be perfectly happy trading yourself for a 1v1 lynch as mafia IF you don't really want to play.

There is a reason I said earlier that I can't call you scum for being lazy, but I also can't call you town for kinda... lazily pushing me. If you had 15 pages of filter and were hammering down on me with the wrath of a thousand suns you'd be town.

As for now, I don't know, and I don't really think it's productive for us to argue about it. Just go read other people and see what you find. Maybe talk to Sandroba in your friend chat.




On March 06 2024 08:19 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2024 08:12 Palmar wrote:
On March 06 2024 08:07 Rels wrote:
On March 05 2024 09:51 Palmar wrote:
Cba arguing with marv now but did make a mental note of him posting about vivax probably being town but not wanting to mayor him. Weird take because voting town mayor is always best. Can just bully them into lynching theme way we want.

But ironically I’m not sure marv would call me mafia as scum because he has no idea if I’m gonna put in work tomorrow or be lazy. But it’s all very weak and I’m not day 1 lynching players who can be relied on to actually try later on in the game.

I liked some Koshi posts


This is what I had in mind. Less strong than I thought but yeah, at the beginning of the marv push, the mentality was "marv wouldn't push me as scum". Let's see where that changes
On March 05 2024 22:43 Palmar wrote:
On March 05 2024 22:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
--- Wall of text ---


Just so I get it clear.

a) Marv votes me and nowhere in your interactions he discusses or mentions the possibility of me being mafia?
b) You don't think that's strange at all?

Like you say twice I could be mafia, fine.

But you don't think it's weird marv doesn't even ponder it in a chat with you? The most important thing he does during the day phase is voting, and he is voting a player he likes and knows very well, and doesn't make a single comment about it?

Not weird?


I guess there, throwing shade at marv


Because I wanted marv to change his mind during my flurry of posting this morning. He failed to do so correctly and is has received a citation for that.

That's not true. Here you were surprised at marv not changing his mind:
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On March 05 2024 23:53 Palmar wrote:
On March 05 2024 23:50 marvellosity wrote:
On March 05 2024 22:12 Palmar wrote:
On March 05 2024 20:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Thankfully i can play the game with marv, it's much more enjoyable than this thread.

It looks really, really bad for you guys that you're all just checked out of the game but claim to be active in the thread.

At least be a man and just actually check out of the game like me.

Whoever is town of you three needs to start getting shit done in the thread.

I’m getting you lynched bro.

Wait you still think I'm mafia?

Did you read my last 2 pages?

But you were throwing shade at him before that point:
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On March 05 2024 22:12 Palmar wrote:
On March 05 2024 20:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Thankfully i can play the game with marv, it's much more enjoyable than this thread.

It looks really, really bad for you guys that you're all just checked out of the game but claim to be active in the thread.

At least be a man and just actually check out of the game like me.

Whoever is town of you three needs to start getting shit done in the thread.

Show nested quote +
On March 05 2024 22:43 Palmar wrote:
On March 05 2024 22:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
--- Wall of text ---


Just so I get it clear.

a) Marv votes me and nowhere in your interactions he discusses or mentions the possibility of me being mafia?
b) You don't think that's strange at all?

Like you say twice I could be mafia, fine.

But you don't think it's weird marv doesn't even ponder it in a chat with you? The most important thing he does during the day phase is voting, and he is voting a player he likes and knows very well, and doesn't make a single comment about it?

Not weird?


Show nested quote +
On March 05 2024 22:48 Palmar wrote:
I need Sandroba to come convince me his mason buddies aren't just mafia.

I really, really, really don't think marv just tries to kill me without even talking about it.




I don't really see what is good about it, It was at the wrong time, and it was ineffective, is Rels the kind of player who can't take control of a thread?

Like to me there was real influence to wield at that time and he kind of just sat on Palmar for too long on his own.

(he has had IRL stuff which may play a role, but still)

"wrong time"? I posted at the only time where I could post

To answer your question, I rarely take control of the thread as town, especially D1
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
March 07 2024 02:27 GMT
#3727
Mafia inside Marv/Oats/Jake/Cake and mix in a couple of hiding lurkers. Dealers choice. I think the game ends in town victory, even if you lot lynch me tomorrow.

I'm sorry I couldn't give this game the time it deserves, my weekend starts tomorrow so I'll at least fight my lynch if I live the night.

Good luck urybody.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
die_meatbaby
Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
March 07 2024 02:29 GMT
#3728
On March 07 2024 11:10 Jealous wrote:
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On March 07 2024 11:03 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Hmmmmm in your opinion Jealous.

Sure mistakes happen but do you think DMB's "mistake" and reaction to it (not noticing we were even pointing out the mistake for ages) is more or less suspicoius than Koshi's "Mistake" and reaction to it. (ignoring it entirely and being like I'm town fuck you)


I think that both are NAI. I wouldn't even call Koshi's "mistake" that. As someone else told you, I consider "if" and "when" to almost colloquially interchangeable in that context.

DMB's mistake reads as far more damning to me but there are mitigating factors and I think that even some as seemingly erratic as them wouldn't have brought it up just to slip up like that, IMO.

I'm more concerned about the fact that most of what they wrote that wasn't a mistake felt pretty weak to me. This is their best case on their strongest scum read, and now they are too lazy to stick around, because "I don't wanna be town I wanna be mafia"? That's hella weak IMO.

I can see a genuine town doing that, I guess, kinda like how we have people who didn't vote and aren't posting for various reasons. However, I also see it as sufficient reason to keep them on my lynch list, because mafia isn't precluded from claiming laziness after flailing under some light pressure.


I put myself under pressure to start that shit with dp. I know i couldn´t handle that as well as I should so why should I do that as mafia? I knew he gonna give me a lot of pressure more then all the other players would, so again why should I start that and not just take someone easyer do try do lynch and go more with the crowd thoughts. Why even start with the master? I would not be that stupid as mafia
Everything has an end only the sausage has two
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10138 Posts
March 07 2024 02:29 GMT
#3729
On March 07 2024 11:22 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Who is missing off my list in your opinion jealous?

Maybe Rels, more likely CopCake IMO, and I wouldn't have minded to see someone else put rayn on there so I could bounce ideas off of them.

What's your take on rayn if you have one btw?
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
March 07 2024 02:32 GMT
#3730
On March 07 2024 11:27 VisceraEyes wrote:
Mafia inside Marv/Oats/Jake/Cake and mix in a couple of hiding lurkers. Dealers choice. I think the game ends in town victory, even if you lot lynch me tomorrow.

I'm sorry I couldn't give this game the time it deserves, my weekend starts tomorrow so I'll at least fight my lynch if I live the night.

Good luck urybody.


The marvelous oatsjamcake

Thie guy is psssshing town again
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10138 Posts
March 07 2024 02:33 GMT
#3731
On March 07 2024 11:24 die_meatbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2024 11:01 Jealous wrote:
On March 07 2024 10:51 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 07 2024 10:42 Jealous wrote:
On March 07 2024 10:11 die_meatbaby wrote:
But trying to become mayor as mafia is very risky and stupid. Even I understand that.

So does that mean that all of the following have to be town?
Vivax (13), raynpelikoneet (3), Oatsmaster (1), Koshi (1)

On March 07 2024 10:11 die_meatbaby wrote:
Town dp would feel attacked if you call him mafia and would names reasons why he is not.
Mafia dp plays it of cool, that you don't see the fear of being discovered.

Maybe this is a DP thing, or maybe I'm different from most, or maybe I'm just stupid... But how much evidence can DP have to name reasons for why he is not mafia when we're what, 16 hours into D1? Maybe the volume they put out... but still, let's have a thought experiment:

What arguments would you have for your own innocence at this point in the game?

On March 07 2024 10:11 die_meatbaby wrote:
Regardless of what I think about cake, but it seems to me that he picks weaker players to annoy until they make a mistake because of beeing annoyd and then he can push the wagon that comes up.

I made an error out the gate (not catching that Alakaslam cop-claimed) and I didn't get my head bit off for it by anyone. It was corrected and we kept it moving. So, I think this point is overblown. If you're not scum, "mistakes" don't magically make you scum, IMO. The mistake itself has to be AI.

On March 07 2024 10:11 die_meatbaby wrote:
He waits hours but no body jumps on a cake wagon or he already sees that that wagon will not be successful. So he need to get someelse, but thats good for his record, because Town DP change often his vote just usually with good reasons.

If it wasn't his meta already then I could see this being potentially being true/AI, but because you say that it is his meta... I don't get your point here?

On March 07 2024 10:11 die_meatbaby wrote:
Thats the only Post I like. He should play a little bit and then we lynch Ve because thats a vote for active Town

Please clarify your logic here, too.


That does not mean that this people are Town for me.
It has something to do with my experience of DP's personality. Sorry if I didn´t make that clear.

Okay, I can believe that you believe this 👍

On March 07 2024 10:51 die_meatbaby wrote:
What arguments would you have for your own innocence at this point in the game?

Regardless of my aligment I would not start a fight with dp without having do!!!
As mafia I would not do that. That would take the fun away as I had in the last game trying to lynch Palmar
As Town I just to it because I don´t have something more importend in my head.

This I am having a much harder time following.

If I understand correctly you say that you wouldn't argue with DP regardless of your alignment, then you say you would not do it as mafia, and then you say you would do it as town?

Perhaps this will be easier, allow me to rephrase:

In this specific game, what can you point to as being reasons for why you are town by the 16 hour mark?

I'm just struggling to understand what your ideal response from DP would be here. If someone put me on the spot like that, frankly I'd just be like:
[image loading]

On March 07 2024 10:51 die_meatbaby wrote:
And the Ve post is good
He doesn´t really want to play anymore because we always lynch him early.
Compassion would be the best description

The way you responded to it is "let them play, then lynch them because they are an active townie," which doesn't make much sense to me as "compassion"? As Jacob said above, that almost sounds like a scumslip, but I am sure I must be misunderstanding something or you misspoke.



Starting a discussion with Dp with my English, his ambition and his never-ending questions get on my nerves. I would never voluntarily start a discussion with him if I didn't have to and the only reason I do it is because he is my main scum read.
Being scum was really fun for me and that would take the fun out of it ergo I can not be scum

Also the our major is slapping my ass while i try to translate my thougts correctly. Pls for god sake I have to concentrate Vivax


On March 07 2024 11:29 die_meatbaby wrote:
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On March 07 2024 11:10 Jealous wrote:
On March 07 2024 11:03 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Hmmmmm in your opinion Jealous.

Sure mistakes happen but do you think DMB's "mistake" and reaction to it (not noticing we were even pointing out the mistake for ages) is more or less suspicoius than Koshi's "Mistake" and reaction to it. (ignoring it entirely and being like I'm town fuck you)


I think that both are NAI. I wouldn't even call Koshi's "mistake" that. As someone else told you, I consider "if" and "when" to almost colloquially interchangeable in that context.

DMB's mistake reads as far more damning to me but there are mitigating factors and I think that even some as seemingly erratic as them wouldn't have brought it up just to slip up like that, IMO.

I'm more concerned about the fact that most of what they wrote that wasn't a mistake felt pretty weak to me. This is their best case on their strongest scum read, and now they are too lazy to stick around, because "I don't wanna be town I wanna be mafia"? That's hella weak IMO.

I can see a genuine town doing that, I guess, kinda like how we have people who didn't vote and aren't posting for various reasons. However, I also see it as sufficient reason to keep them on my lynch list, because mafia isn't precluded from claiming laziness after flailing under some light pressure.


I put myself under pressure to start that shit with dp. I know i couldn´t handle that as well as I should so why should I do that as mafia? I knew he gonna give me a lot of pressure more then all the other players would, so again why should I start that and not just take someone easyer do try do lynch and go more with the crowd thoughts. Why even start with the master? I would not be that stupid as mafia


Okay, now I understand what you were saying before. Thanks for clarifying. I actually kinda like this thought process because at least I get it.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
March 07 2024 02:35 GMT
#3732
On March 07 2024 11:32 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2024 11:27 VisceraEyes wrote:
Mafia inside Marv/Oats/Jake/Cake and mix in a couple of hiding lurkers. Dealers choice. I think the game ends in town victory, even if you lot lynch me tomorrow.

I'm sorry I couldn't give this game the time it deserves, my weekend starts tomorrow so I'll at least fight my lynch if I live the night.

Good luck urybody.


The marvelous oatsjamcake

Thie guy is psssshing town again

I never stopped frand, activity isn't an indicator of my alignment, look at recent games. It used to be, I'm way more into irl shit these days.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 07 2024 02:35 GMT
#3733
On March 06 2024 19:07 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2024 12:27 Rels wrote:
Meh on Trfel being lynched, I would have lynched over half the game before him

Don't like this take but it may be just egoposting from Rels.

I didn't think Trfel was gonna flip mafia and I didn't vote him. I explained why I didn't think he'd flip mafia.

But I'd be lying straight up if I claimed something like this. For someone who has seemingly been so little involved in the game you're claiming an awful deep understanding of the game to object to what is essentially a diet policy lynch.

You think Trfel was a policy lynch? That's an horrible take, most people on his wagon really thought he was scum
Half the game was hyperbolic, but even pre-lynch, I already said I would lynch a lot of people above him:
On March 06 2024 09:10 Rels wrote:
Gotta go. I would say out of the options I have, my preference would be Palmar > JAT > random lurker (out of those, I still think TTS has the highest chance of flipping scum)

Still think Trfel is town, I would prefer any random lurker over him

Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
March 07 2024 02:37 GMT
#3734
On March 07 2024 11:29 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2024 11:22 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Who is missing off my list in your opinion jealous?

Maybe Rels, more likely CopCake IMO, and I wouldn't have minded to see someone else put rayn on there so I could bounce ideas off of them.

What's your take on rayn if you have one btw?

See this is why I really wanted to hear her take on JSL because she was the one who initially got me looking his way and the comment she made about his meta was such a townie way of thinking it made me reevaluate her. I also don't see her trying to bus JSL although to be fair she hasn't gone after him very hard.

Tbh I completely forgot about Rels lol, maybe that's also worth looking into.

My opinion of rayn is that he calls me scum every game and I hate the way he approaches the game lol. The worst thing he's done imo is go after palmar but I could see him doing that as town. I also don't see a world where the scum masons just mason each other, if they did and win the game then hats off to them. So that's a lot of words to say I have a null read on him
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 07 2024 02:40 GMT
#3735
On March 06 2024 19:15 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2024 19:15 CopCake wrote:
On March 06 2024 19:10 marvellosity wrote:
On March 06 2024 19:09 CopCake wrote:
On March 06 2024 19:04 marvellosity wrote:
On March 06 2024 18:56 CopCake wrote:
On March 06 2024 18:52 marvellosity wrote:
On March 06 2024 13:42 CopCake wrote:
I came with some conclusions

Town:
Koshi
Slam
Rels
Marv
MZ
Oats

Feels town
VE

Mafia
DP
Iamp
Vivax

The rest are wild cards

I disagree with this enough for it to be town


What is wrong with it sweet pie?

I’d be shocked if iamp or Vivax are mafia.
Wouldn’t be shocked by DP but I don’t think so either


What about my town pile?

I’m not sure about Rels or MZ.


I think Rels felt genuine and interested, i think he could have easily blended with people if he was mafia.

You think he’s had an impact?

WTF is this standard? When is the last time I've had an impact D1? I hate those
Fuck this is annoying me. I feel like I'm being set up as the next lynch. Sick daughter, maybe getting laid off so I have a bunch of interviews coming up for which I have to prepare, but I have the feeling I'll have to devote my evenings to analyze the game and the days to scream at people like in the old days just to not be the default lynch
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
March 07 2024 02:42 GMT
#3736
On March 07 2024 11:40 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2024 19:15 marvellosity wrote:
On March 06 2024 19:15 CopCake wrote:
On March 06 2024 19:10 marvellosity wrote:
On March 06 2024 19:09 CopCake wrote:
On March 06 2024 19:04 marvellosity wrote:
On March 06 2024 18:56 CopCake wrote:
On March 06 2024 18:52 marvellosity wrote:
On March 06 2024 13:42 CopCake wrote:
I came with some conclusions

Town:
Koshi
Slam
Rels
Marv
MZ
Oats

Feels town
VE

Mafia
DP
Iamp
Vivax

The rest are wild cards

I disagree with this enough for it to be town


What is wrong with it sweet pie?

I’d be shocked if iamp or Vivax are mafia.
Wouldn’t be shocked by DP but I don’t think so either


What about my town pile?

I’m not sure about Rels or MZ.


I think Rels felt genuine and interested, i think he could have easily blended with people if he was mafia.

You think he’s had an impact?

WTF is this standard? When is the last time I've had an impact D1? I hate those
Fuck this is annoying me. I feel like I'm being set up as the next lynch. Sick daughter, maybe getting laid off so I have a bunch of interviews coming up for which I have to prepare, but I have the feeling I'll have to devote my evenings to analyze the game and the days to scream at people like in the old days just to not be the default lynch

I have some thoughts on this topic I'd love to discuss with everyone post game.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
March 07 2024 02:43 GMT
#3737
On March 07 2024 11:37 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2024 11:29 Jealous wrote:
On March 07 2024 11:22 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Who is missing off my list in your opinion jealous?

Maybe Rels, more likely CopCake IMO, and I wouldn't have minded to see someone else put rayn on there so I could bounce ideas off of them.

What's your take on rayn if you have one btw?

See this is why I really wanted to hear her take on JSL because she was the one who initially got me looking his way and the comment she made about his meta was such a townie way of thinking it made me reevaluate her. I also don't see her trying to bus JSL although to be fair she hasn't gone after him very hard.


I think she did say something but only something minor after your case. Which I'll actually probably have to convince you I'm town later now that I went back through trifel and he thought you were town.

I'm not concerned right now though I want to see if anyone else bites and if so how they do it.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 07 2024 02:45 GMT
#3738
On March 07 2024 11:42 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2024 11:40 Rels wrote:
On March 06 2024 19:15 marvellosity wrote:
On March 06 2024 19:15 CopCake wrote:
On March 06 2024 19:10 marvellosity wrote:
On March 06 2024 19:09 CopCake wrote:
On March 06 2024 19:04 marvellosity wrote:
On March 06 2024 18:56 CopCake wrote:
On March 06 2024 18:52 marvellosity wrote:
On March 06 2024 13:42 CopCake wrote:
I came with some conclusions

Town:
Koshi
Slam
Rels
Marv
MZ
Oats

Feels town
VE

Mafia
DP
Iamp
Vivax

The rest are wild cards

I disagree with this enough for it to be town


What is wrong with it sweet pie?

I’d be shocked if iamp or Vivax are mafia.
Wouldn’t be shocked by DP but I don’t think so either


What about my town pile?

I’m not sure about Rels or MZ.


I think Rels felt genuine and interested, i think he could have easily blended with people if he was mafia.

You think he’s had an impact?

WTF is this standard? When is the last time I've had an impact D1? I hate those
Fuck this is annoying me. I feel like I'm being set up as the next lynch. Sick daughter, maybe getting laid off so I have a bunch of interviews coming up for which I have to prepare, but I have the feeling I'll have to devote my evenings to analyze the game and the days to scream at people like in the old days just to not be the default lynch

I have some thoughts on this topic I'd love to discuss with everyone post game.

Kinda regret posting this TBH, but sure
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10138 Posts
March 07 2024 02:45 GMT
#3739
On March 05 2024 04:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2024 04:12 CopCake wrote:
On March 05 2024 04:08 Vivax wrote:
On March 05 2024 04:06 CopCake wrote:
On March 05 2024 04:04 Vivax wrote:
So maybe I just have to accept the fact that if rayn and iamp are actually town like I had in mind earlier, they prefer to annoy the hell out of you instead of actually finding scum and cause a massive unhelpful distraction that makes me reconsider their alignments.

Either way, not helpful.

I still want to kill Trfel. That's where my head is at.
Going to hedge on sandro.
VE/MZ worth looking into more deeply imo.

But Trfel first. I'm not going to repeat the mistake of trying to kill multples.


Nah, if you are against Tfrel you have to cross over me.

No one touches him.


Ok, tell me who I should look into then and I'll tell you if I agree.


mz
ve, maybe
a no posting person like palmar or hapa


how can you look into a person who has posted nothing?

Digging into filters rn and rayn makes a really strong point here IMO. Is this CopCake just trying to name random names to keep people busy/off of scum's trail and getting caught in a logical fallacy?
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9641 Posts
March 07 2024 02:53 GMT
#3740
On March 07 2024 11:45 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2024 04:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 05 2024 04:12 CopCake wrote:
On March 05 2024 04:08 Vivax wrote:
On March 05 2024 04:06 CopCake wrote:
On March 05 2024 04:04 Vivax wrote:
So maybe I just have to accept the fact that if rayn and iamp are actually town like I had in mind earlier, they prefer to annoy the hell out of you instead of actually finding scum and cause a massive unhelpful distraction that makes me reconsider their alignments.

Either way, not helpful.

I still want to kill Trfel. That's where my head is at.
Going to hedge on sandro.
VE/MZ worth looking into more deeply imo.

But Trfel first. I'm not going to repeat the mistake of trying to kill multples.


Nah, if you are against Tfrel you have to cross over me.

No one touches him.


Ok, tell me who I should look into then and I'll tell you if I agree.


mz
ve, maybe
a no posting person like palmar or hapa


how can you look into a person who has posted nothing?

Digging into filters rn and rayn makes a really strong point here IMO. Is this CopCake just trying to name random names to keep people busy/off of scum's trail and getting caught in a logical fallacy?

i agree my take on cop might have been dumb.
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