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JacobStrangelove
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die_meatbaby
Colombia1344 Posts
On March 07 2024 10:42 Jealous wrote: So does that mean that all of the following have to be town? Vivax (13), raynpelikoneet (3), Oatsmaster (1), Koshi (1) Maybe this is a DP thing, or maybe I'm different from most, or maybe I'm just stupid... But how much evidence can DP have to name reasons for why he is not mafia when we're what, 16 hours into D1? Maybe the volume they put out... but still, let's have a thought experiment: What arguments would you have for your own innocence at this point in the game? I made an error out the gate (not catching that Alakaslam cop-claimed) and I didn't get my head bit off for it by anyone. It was corrected and we kept it moving. So, I think this point is overblown. If you're not scum, "mistakes" don't magically make you scum, IMO. The mistake itself has to be AI. If it wasn't his meta already then I could see this being potentially being true/AI, but because you say that it is his meta... I don't get your point here? Please clarify your logic here, too. I could also see a scum slam claiming for blue. I would believe if slam is scum he would do something like that it is just not in vivax meta. He is not doeing that. To much fear. To much paranoir for that shit as mafia | ||
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die_meatbaby
Colombia1344 Posts
On March 07 2024 10:53 die_meatbaby wrote: I could also see a scum slam claiming for blue. I would believe if slam is scum he would do something like that it is just not in vivax meta. He is not doeing that. To much fear. To much paranoir for that shit as mafia And thats not a read on slam. i am still unsure of his aligment | ||
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die_meatbaby
Colombia1344 Posts
On March 07 2024 10:53 JacobStrangelove wrote: No I get why not lynching VE early I think everyone gets that, why do you then later say to lynch town VE later? I don´t need do quote Ve or do I? His hole filter looks scummy, but to be fear he always do | ||
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JacobStrangelove
Australia1572 Posts
On March 07 2024 10:56 die_meatbaby wrote: I don´t need do quote Ve or do I? His hole filter looks scummy, but to be fear he always do Okay let me break it down, You said don't lynch VE early. This makes sense. you then say lynch TOWN VE later. ??? why would we lynch town ve later? Lynching SCUM VE would make sense. | ||
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die_meatbaby
Colombia1344 Posts
On March 07 2024 10:37 DarthPunk wrote: Dmb is that the whole list of reasons why you are convinced I am mafia? no there is more but i am lazy and weary. I would rather be scum then Town | ||
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die_meatbaby
Colombia1344 Posts
On March 07 2024 10:58 JacobStrangelove wrote: Okay let me break it down, You said don't lynch VE early. This makes sense. you then say lynch TOWN VE later. ??? why would we lynch town ve later? Lynching SCUM VE would make sense. sorry mistake happens. | ||
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Jealous
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On March 07 2024 10:51 die_meatbaby wrote: That does not mean that this people are Town for me. It has something to do with my experience of DP's personality. Sorry if I didn´t make that clear. Okay, I can believe that you believe this 👍 On March 07 2024 10:51 die_meatbaby wrote: What arguments would you have for your own innocence at this point in the game? Regardless of my aligment I would not start a fight with dp without having do!!! As mafia I would not do that. That would take the fun away as I had in the last game trying to lynch Palmar  As Town I just to it because I don´t have something more importend in my head. This I am having a much harder time following. If I understand correctly you say that you wouldn't argue with DP regardless of your alignment, then you say you would not do it as mafia, and then you say you would do it as town? Perhaps this will be easier, allow me to rephrase: In this specific game, what can you point to as being reasons for why you are town by the 16 hour mark? I'm just struggling to understand what your ideal response from DP would be here. If someone put me on the spot like that, frankly I'd just be like: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/0KMBuIS.png) On March 07 2024 10:51 die_meatbaby wrote: And the Ve post is good He doesn´t really want to play anymore because we always lynch him early. Compassion would be the best description The way you responded to it is "let them play, then lynch them because they are an active townie," which doesn't make much sense to me as "compassion"? As Jacob said above, that almost sounds like a scumslip, but I am sure I must be misunderstanding something or you misspoke. | ||
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Jealous
10170 Posts
Gotcha, you can skip answering my last point then, you misspoke as suspected. | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
Jake do you think DMB is town or mafia? | ||
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JacobStrangelove
Australia1572 Posts
Sure mistakes happen but do you think DMB's "mistake" and reaction to it (not noticing we were even pointing out the mistake for ages) is more or less suspicoius than Koshi's "Mistake" and reaction to it. (ignoring it entirely and being like I'm town fuck you) | ||
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JacobStrangelove
Australia1572 Posts
On March 07 2024 11:03 DarthPunk wrote: DMb do you think jake is town or mafia. Jake do you think DMB is town or mafia? Well I thought they were town, or at least the reasons people attacking them wasn't based in real scumslip reasons. But then they did it again, which could be a mistake but now I'm more suspicious. | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6786 Posts
JSL for stuff I've previously posted about VE for completely fucking off from the game when the pressure let up from him TTS for also completely fucking off Marv based on vibes and his refusal to interact with the thread outside of the mason group. JAT (but this is a weak read since my vote on him was more because I thought he was scummier, worth a revisit for me) I'm no longer scumreading cop but I just wish she would answer my questions about JSL Town reads who I'm never gonna lynch are: Sandroba Vivax DP Koshi | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On March 06 2024 12:29 CopCake wrote: Oh and this cutie pie I forgot was in the game. <3 | ||
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Jealous
10170 Posts
On March 07 2024 11:03 JacobStrangelove wrote: Hmmmmm in your opinion Jealous. Sure mistakes happen but do you think DMB's "mistake" and reaction to it (not noticing we were even pointing out the mistake for ages) is more or less suspicoius than Koshi's "Mistake" and reaction to it. (ignoring it entirely and being like I'm town fuck you) I think that both are NAI. I wouldn't even call Koshi's "mistake" that. As someone else told you, I consider "if" and "when" to almost colloquially interchangeable in that context. DMB's mistake reads as far more damning to me but there are mitigating factors and I think that even some as seemingly erratic as them wouldn't have brought it up just to slip up like that, IMO. I'm more concerned about the fact that most of what they wrote that wasn't a mistake felt pretty weak to me. This is their best case on their strongest scum read, and now they are too lazy to stick around, because "I don't wanna be town I wanna be mafia"? That's hella weak IMO. I can see a genuine town doing that, I guess, kinda like how we have people who didn't vote and aren't posting for various reasons. However, I also see it as sufficient reason to keep them on my lynch list, because mafia isn't precluded from claiming laziness after flailing under some light pressure. | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On March 06 2024 12:39 DarthPunk wrote: He got lynched because of his end of day posts. I was about to swap to JAT and he basically claimed mafia ITT I really disagree. He looked like town that didn't have the time to properly play while knowing you're supposed to be there at the deadline, especially when you're one of the wagon I thought his posts were pretty empathic | ||
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Jealous
10170 Posts
On March 07 2024 11:06 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: OK I'm caught up. No way scum shoots me with everyone who decided it was time for the D2 MZ scum read a little early but in case someone was inspired to vigi me I've got the following for scum in order of confidence: JSL for stuff I've previously posted about VE for completely fucking off from the game when the pressure let up from him TTS for also completely fucking off Marv based on vibes and his refusal to interact with the thread outside of the mason group. JAT (but this is a weak read since my vote on him was more because I thought he was scummier, worth a revisit for me) I'm no longer scumreading cop but I just wish she would answer my questions about JSL Town reads who I'm never gonna lynch are: Sandroba Vivax DP Koshi I mean, this is so close to being my own list that it's kinda eerie. A few names are missing a few I'd move - Marv and JAT to neutral at worst IMO - but that's about it. Like I said to rayn, this doesn't necessarily make me think that you're town for this, though. | ||
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die_meatbaby
Colombia1344 Posts
I looked back at my post and I said Thats the only Post I like. He should play a little bit and then we lynch Ve because thats a vote for active Town Lynch Ve (without any call on his aligment) because thats a vote for active Town That was his slogan for mayjor A vote for VE is a vote for active Town.... | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6786 Posts
On March 07 2024 11:16 Jealous wrote: I mean, this is so close to being my own list that it's kinda eerie. A few names are missing a few I'd move - Marv and JAT to neutral at worst IMO - but that's about it. Like I said to rayn, this doesn't necessarily make me think that you're town for this, though. Yeah I could easily swap out JAT if I find a stronger case in someone like DMB. I hated coming back to the D1 lynch with such little time to decide and JAT just looked worse than trfel to me and trfel had interacted with me in the beginning. I think I'm a little more certain of marv based on some meta stuff from my last game where he was scum. I'd rather focus on JSL or TTS/VE for tomorrow and worry about Marv D3 bc if he makes it that long I'm gonna have a lot more questions. | ||
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