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On December 11 2023 22:06 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2023 22:04 DarthPunk wrote:On December 11 2023 22:00 Vivax wrote:
It's hard to explain but town DP usually glows intensely and is very conscious about steering the thread to where he wants to (which usually isn't a bad direction), here he's more of a bystander who croaks at everything, tone-wise. The way he treated me I find his vote not being on me scummy and out of character.
Holyflare always plays pro-scum no matter the alignment so him hopping onto my wagon with Trfel is NAI at best.
Just got up to rant and give a few unripe thoughts. But having a wagon on myself is helpful in that I know it has to be at least partially mafia driven. What exactly is scummy about my vote not being on you, considering: A.) it was B.) the massive push i made on marv and C.) what do you mean by the way I treated you? When Palmar initiated the wagon yesterday you were keen on burying me even when I was adressing DMB for example (you defended her post instead). It's something you do on a level of confidence that doesn't match you just casually switching to marv. Even a look at the votecount made me sus of you.
I don't think I 'casually' switched to marv, the marv stuff was bothering me for a while.
I also think you are mafia FWIW. Particularly after this dramatic entrance.
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On December 11 2023 22:14 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2023 22:06 Vivax wrote:On December 11 2023 22:04 DarthPunk wrote:On December 11 2023 22:00 Vivax wrote:
It's hard to explain but town DP usually glows intensely and is very conscious about steering the thread to where he wants to (which usually isn't a bad direction), here he's more of a bystander who croaks at everything, tone-wise. The way he treated me I find his vote not being on me scummy and out of character.
Holyflare always plays pro-scum no matter the alignment so him hopping onto my wagon with Trfel is NAI at best.
Just got up to rant and give a few unripe thoughts. But having a wagon on myself is helpful in that I know it has to be at least partially mafia driven. What exactly is scummy about my vote not being on you, considering: A.) it was B.) the massive push i made on marv and C.) what do you mean by the way I treated you? When Palmar initiated the wagon yesterday you were keen on burying me even when I was adressing DMB for example (you defended her post instead). It's something you do on a level of confidence that doesn't match you just casually switching to marv. Even a look at the votecount made me sus of you. I don't think I 'casually' switched to marv, the marv stuff was bothering me for a while. I also think you are mafia FWIW. Particularly after this dramatic entrance.
It's not me you have to tell that to.
It's a shit wagon on the wrong player 
This is where you can already start judging who jumps on it.
Palmar is probably town in this case. It's the bottom feeders latching to it that are more interesting.
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On December 11 2023 22:16 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2023 22:14 DarthPunk wrote:On December 11 2023 22:06 Vivax wrote:On December 11 2023 22:04 DarthPunk wrote:On December 11 2023 22:00 Vivax wrote:
It's hard to explain but town DP usually glows intensely and is very conscious about steering the thread to where he wants to (which usually isn't a bad direction), here he's more of a bystander who croaks at everything, tone-wise. The way he treated me I find his vote not being on me scummy and out of character.
Holyflare always plays pro-scum no matter the alignment so him hopping onto my wagon with Trfel is NAI at best.
Just got up to rant and give a few unripe thoughts. But having a wagon on myself is helpful in that I know it has to be at least partially mafia driven. What exactly is scummy about my vote not being on you, considering: A.) it was B.) the massive push i made on marv and C.) what do you mean by the way I treated you? When Palmar initiated the wagon yesterday you were keen on burying me even when I was adressing DMB for example (you defended her post instead). It's something you do on a level of confidence that doesn't match you just casually switching to marv. Even a look at the votecount made me sus of you. I don't think I 'casually' switched to marv, the marv stuff was bothering me for a while. I also think you are mafia FWIW. Particularly after this dramatic entrance. It's not me you have to tell that to. It's a shit wagon on the wrong player This is where you can already start judging who jumps on it. Palmar is probably town in this case. It's the bottom feeders latching to it that are more interesting.
You are saying that your wagon is shit and on the wrong player?
Who do you think is the right player then?
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On December 11 2023 22:18 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2023 22:16 Vivax wrote:On December 11 2023 22:14 DarthPunk wrote:On December 11 2023 22:06 Vivax wrote:On December 11 2023 22:04 DarthPunk wrote:On December 11 2023 22:00 Vivax wrote:
It's hard to explain but town DP usually glows intensely and is very conscious about steering the thread to where he wants to (which usually isn't a bad direction), here he's more of a bystander who croaks at everything, tone-wise. The way he treated me I find his vote not being on me scummy and out of character.
Holyflare always plays pro-scum no matter the alignment so him hopping onto my wagon with Trfel is NAI at best.
Just got up to rant and give a few unripe thoughts. But having a wagon on myself is helpful in that I know it has to be at least partially mafia driven. What exactly is scummy about my vote not being on you, considering: A.) it was B.) the massive push i made on marv and C.) what do you mean by the way I treated you? When Palmar initiated the wagon yesterday you were keen on burying me even when I was adressing DMB for example (you defended her post instead). It's something you do on a level of confidence that doesn't match you just casually switching to marv. Even a look at the votecount made me sus of you. I don't think I 'casually' switched to marv, the marv stuff was bothering me for a while. I also think you are mafia FWIW. Particularly after this dramatic entrance. It's not me you have to tell that to. It's a shit wagon on the wrong player This is where you can already start judging who jumps on it. Palmar is probably town in this case. It's the bottom feeders latching to it that are more interesting. You are saying that your wagon is shit and on the wrong player? Who do you think is the right player then?
Gut and purely from gamestate I'd say DP, Sandro, Trfel are the mafia (lots of unproductive verbosity from two while Sandro makes sense from a more frozen perspective).
In this context your unvote makes sense cause you don't want all three on a wagon.
HF, Chezinu would be policy lynches.
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D1 is when the mafia posts a lot of fake stuff and given DPs and Trfels word count which screams 'don't murder me cuz I'm doing more than everyone else' while not taking the thread into any meaningful direction I think that's a good combination.
Previously though I wasn't sure about the likelihood of mafia being among the first in the thread and considered removing Sandro + Trfel but that's wifom anyway.
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On December 11 2023 22:25 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2023 22:18 DarthPunk wrote:On December 11 2023 22:16 Vivax wrote:On December 11 2023 22:14 DarthPunk wrote:On December 11 2023 22:06 Vivax wrote:On December 11 2023 22:04 DarthPunk wrote:On December 11 2023 22:00 Vivax wrote:
It's hard to explain but town DP usually glows intensely and is very conscious about steering the thread to where he wants to (which usually isn't a bad direction), here he's more of a bystander who croaks at everything, tone-wise. The way he treated me I find his vote not being on me scummy and out of character.
Holyflare always plays pro-scum no matter the alignment so him hopping onto my wagon with Trfel is NAI at best.
Just got up to rant and give a few unripe thoughts. But having a wagon on myself is helpful in that I know it has to be at least partially mafia driven. What exactly is scummy about my vote not being on you, considering: A.) it was B.) the massive push i made on marv and C.) what do you mean by the way I treated you? When Palmar initiated the wagon yesterday you were keen on burying me even when I was adressing DMB for example (you defended her post instead). It's something you do on a level of confidence that doesn't match you just casually switching to marv. Even a look at the votecount made me sus of you. I don't think I 'casually' switched to marv, the marv stuff was bothering me for a while. I also think you are mafia FWIW. Particularly after this dramatic entrance. It's not me you have to tell that to. It's a shit wagon on the wrong player This is where you can already start judging who jumps on it. Palmar is probably town in this case. It's the bottom feeders latching to it that are more interesting. You are saying that your wagon is shit and on the wrong player? Who do you think is the right player then? Gut and purely from gamestate I'd say DP, Sandro, Trfel are the mafia (lots of unproductive verbosity from two while Sandro makes sense from a more frozen perspective). In this context your unvote makes sense cause you don't want all three on a wagon. HF, Chezinu would be policy lynches.
You think the world is that mafia went after mafia who OMGUSed back onto their mafia partner, just for the 3rd mafia partner to pick one of the mafia partners to start tunelling?
What on earth
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On December 11 2023 22:29 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2023 22:25 Vivax wrote:On December 11 2023 22:18 DarthPunk wrote:On December 11 2023 22:16 Vivax wrote:On December 11 2023 22:14 DarthPunk wrote:On December 11 2023 22:06 Vivax wrote:On December 11 2023 22:04 DarthPunk wrote:On December 11 2023 22:00 Vivax wrote:
It's hard to explain but town DP usually glows intensely and is very conscious about steering the thread to where he wants to (which usually isn't a bad direction), here he's more of a bystander who croaks at everything, tone-wise. The way he treated me I find his vote not being on me scummy and out of character.
Holyflare always plays pro-scum no matter the alignment so him hopping onto my wagon with Trfel is NAI at best.
Just got up to rant and give a few unripe thoughts. But having a wagon on myself is helpful in that I know it has to be at least partially mafia driven. What exactly is scummy about my vote not being on you, considering: A.) it was B.) the massive push i made on marv and C.) what do you mean by the way I treated you? When Palmar initiated the wagon yesterday you were keen on burying me even when I was adressing DMB for example (you defended her post instead). It's something you do on a level of confidence that doesn't match you just casually switching to marv. Even a look at the votecount made me sus of you. I don't think I 'casually' switched to marv, the marv stuff was bothering me for a while. I also think you are mafia FWIW. Particularly after this dramatic entrance. It's not me you have to tell that to. It's a shit wagon on the wrong player This is where you can already start judging who jumps on it. Palmar is probably town in this case. It's the bottom feeders latching to it that are more interesting. You are saying that your wagon is shit and on the wrong player? Who do you think is the right player then? Gut and purely from gamestate I'd say DP, Sandro, Trfel are the mafia (lots of unproductive verbosity from two while Sandro makes sense from a more frozen perspective). In this context your unvote makes sense cause you don't want all three on a wagon. HF, Chezinu would be policy lynches. You think the world is that mafia went after mafia who OMGUSed back onto their mafia partner, just for the 3rd mafia partner to pick one of the mafia partners to start tunelling? What on earth
It's a fake tunnel from DP.
And why not? It's just as likely as any other scenario.
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He's basically claiming scum
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Anyway, I am off to bed, hope the euros have a great time with that.
Ill check in prior to deadline as always.
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There's nothing exonerating Sandro in his filter.
It's mostly just generic reasons to call me mafia and he can't even find the text pieces to prove what he's saying. I've been far from a blend-in playstyle.
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On December 11 2023 10:54 die_meatbaby wrote:
Why is Palmar so confident about his opinion on who is scum. It´s D1 and this dude things he can just read everybody and knows thats scum. Is he like god of this game or why i nobody suspect about his conidence here?
This post which I found townie initially could imply Palmar + DMB down the line.
It's unusual because she doesn't mind shading Palmar and made this post in the process of sheeping him.
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On December 11 2023 22:03 marvellosity wrote:
By the way Palmar, or anyone who cares to read. The reason for my responses to DP being low energy is that basically every game we played this year DP has made a mega case on me pointing out inconsistencies and incongruities (that aren’t true) and twisting my entire filter into a scummy narrative.
The thing is, if he does this to me every time we play, sometimes I’m town, sometimes I’m mafia, but DP is only right sometimes because I am sometimes mafia. A broken clock is right twice a day.
It is tiring hearing the same case over and over, as nothing in it ever makes me mafia, he has no idea how to read me, he just makes the same case every game. It’s tedious that that becomes the focal point of my attention, rather than happily bumbling along with my suspicions on sandro and Vivax.
Yeah but DP isn't that hard to deal with. Even if you ignore his case and just spend energy on something else that's enough.
You aren't doing that and you know it. You haven't even protested being in my shit tier list, because you know I should be thinking exactly this about you.
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##Vote: Palmar
First vote on mafia probably.
All combinations have Sandro in them though.
DP + Trfel + Sandro for the more tinfoily world
and Palmar + DMB + Sandro for the actual safe scumplay because there's nothing in Palmar's filter not making me thing that his read on Sandro is a bus at best and fake on town at worst.
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First vote on mafia probably.
Aside from Sandro who everyone scumreads but nobody votes.
I'm just supposed to be a consolation prize for the scum team or something because Palmar forgot how to scum.
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On December 11 2023 23:22 Vivax wrote:
##Vote: Palmar
First vote on mafia probably.
All combinations have Sandro in them though.
DP + Trfel + Sandro for the more tinfoily world
and Palmar + DMB + Sandro for the actual safe scumplay because there's nothing in Palmar's filter not making me thing that his read on Sandro is a bus at best and fake on town at worst.
Then why aren’t you voting for sandro, if all combinations involve him? It’s obviously the correct play in the world you’re describing.
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On December 11 2023 23:24 Vivax wrote:Aside from Sandro who everyone scumreads but nobody votes.I'm just supposed to be a consolation prize for the scum team or something because Palmar forgot how to scum.
Coughs loudly
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On December 11 2023 23:26 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2023 23:22 Vivax wrote:
##Vote: Palmar
First vote on mafia probably.
All combinations have Sandro in them though.
DP + Trfel + Sandro for the more tinfoily world
and Palmar + DMB + Sandro for the actual safe scumplay because there's nothing in Palmar's filter not making me thing that his read on Sandro is a bus at best and fake on town at worst. Then why aren’t you voting for sandro, if all combinations involve him? It’s obviously the correct play in the world you’re describing.
Because Palmar is more threatening to me and the game in general and has no pressure from anyone else whatsoever.
There's nothing in him that warrants a townread though.
It's just one of those games where it seems like I'm playing against cliques again so it distorts the scumhunting.
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DP, Palmar, HF play like a clique in that sense. But I'd be surprised if that's the team.
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EPT
