EPTHey Rayn, are you and Trfel buddies or have some history together? This post here from you seems over-aggressive.
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sandroba
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Hey Rayn, are you and Trfel buddies or have some history together? This post here from you seems over-aggressive. | ||
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Holyflare
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raynpelikoneet
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On December 16 2023 05:38 Holyflare wrote: This is a quote from our last game we played together btw. You were mafia, I was town. So it's not like I would actually get into a discussion with you any more than I would there. Why are you saying I should have behaved differently? which game is that? | ||
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Holyflare
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On December 16 2023 05:39 raynpelikoneet wrote: I can work with you. I don't honestly expect anyone to have an opinion on what i say, nor do i care about anyone having an opinion what i say. I am probably lynched tomorrow no matter what, i don't care. I am just here to figure out who is mafia, for my own amusement. People believe my reads or they don't. I can't work with you. I don't want to talk about this with you, especially with you. I have already said what i have to say, and i think you're mafia. If you have something else to talk about please do. My reads are not set in stone, and even if they were i am not gonna claim it until the end of night phase. Wait which one is it? lol Did you forget to delete one? | ||
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Holyflare
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chezinu streak or something idk when that was | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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On December 16 2023 05:39 sandroba wrote: Hey Rayn, are you and Trfel buddies or have some history together? This post here from you seems over-aggressive. not more than with other people i guess? I am asking if he's stupid because "if sandroba is mafia and thinks he's gonna get lynched, why would sandroba talk about anything other than Trfel (which was the only thing he basically talked about)". I am sure you can understand the question... | ||
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Holyflare
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raynpelikoneet
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On December 16 2023 05:41 Holyflare wrote: Wait which one is it? lol Did you forget to delete one? Oh i CAN work with you  lol ^^ | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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On December 16 2023 05:41 Holyflare wrote: chezinu streak or something idk when that was I can't find the said post rn, so i can't comment on the said thing and why i said that. It is true though, it's what i think, and i am not lying about something like that as mafia. | ||
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Koshi
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Koshi
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On December 16 2023 05:34 raynpelikoneet wrote: I literally made you, sandroba, Koshi and Palmar act super fucking weirdly (and to some extent marv) based on the new information in thread. Now i just have to figure out who is mafia. What are we talking about here? | ||
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Koshi
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On December 16 2023 06:09 raynpelikoneet wrote: My vote on Chezinu. Let's say you did come in uninformed in the thread. You didnt realise thet this sandroba lynch was breaking up. How weird would my reaction be that I want you to vote sandroba with the town "leaders". Maybe slightly weird. I was just flabbergasted by the off wagon vote on Chez on the what I felt was the pivot point in the game. Slam was so angry we didnt vote Chez, Sandroba was defending hard, I already asked marv to switch. And then you come and break up the flow yabbling about some irrelevant stuff. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm If you are not mafia. Only DMB Palmar makes sense to me. Sandroba is not mafia to me anymore. Tfrel I really don't see it. Only activity based because his filter is good. DMB having palmar 5/6 times in her scumlist is just wtfbbq. | ||
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Koshi
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sandroba
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On December 16 2023 05:18 Holyflare wrote: I stand by still thinking you were mafia. I think you only became "findable" after the palmar situation and even then I'm still hesitant about it because I don't like your directioning/positioning with what you're saying currently or what you were saying just after the chez stuff. In my mind you should be tripling down on palmar and trfel but you're doing some weird thing where you're keeping me at arm's reach still and not really comitting to trying to find me or investigating any of my stances or mindset. I didn't argue against the chez lynch to any meaningful extent other than one post saying I think it was shit and I will triple down and still say I think it was a shit choice even if I knew he was very likely to be mafia. I don't advocate for the stance of always getting mafia being good, I think even a lynch on a townie that people had taken stances on would have just been as good, perhaps better. Although he was the rber so more fortuitous for us in the long run. I believe information and forcing people to do things that is uncharacteristic for them or puts them in positions they don't want to be in is a much better situation. I'm not that invested in this game to care what happens if the direction is fine with what I'm thinking at the time. If the direction goes wayward I'll interject with some of my own work (see the trfel stuff when I thought you were looking a bit better) but if I don't have to be in the game I'll try not to be. Look everyone I think is mafia has done some townie shit at some point. Palmar may very well be mafia, and the more other people like you rayn and koshi post the more I think he is due to POE. He has done some shady shit, I don't think he tried to figure out my alignment at all in the QT. Let me do a recap: I was asking him to take a stance on a player I suspect (Trfel) to see if I can get a read from his reasoning. He did not engage, just stated Trfel is town/ I also mentioned Chez to him which I said was giving me mafia tells, to which he responded that he doesn't read trolls. He then asked me to claim blue, to which I asked why he wants to know, then he started to say things like he was mafia. A bit later he said just kidding okay, not really claiming mafia, which I found dumb and suspicious. He wanted to talk about things like pretend I'm mafia, who do we kill, etc, just a lot of trolling. He never asked me for a read or an explanation of a read. After skipping some troll topics he proposed, we started talking about the DP NK. Why does DP get NK'ed. Assuming everyone is town - removing slam, chez, trfel, dmb which prob are never killed n1 - rayn hf koshi didn't do enough, I was widely suspected. That leaves him marv, dp - which means dp is the most dangerous out of the 3 and probably him and marv are just being wrong and stupid if town. He says mafia is prob afraid to shoot him he is protected. I ask him why he was reading me scum to begin with. No answer. I remind him on the slam comment he pointed out that I noticed and dismissed as null. But then pressed him on that he made a serious post later admitting he also had no real read on Slam. So why did he think I'm scum. He reverts to trolling saying that slam bit is 100% reason to base a read on. A bit more conversation going nowhere. Says he has to go, thinks I'm pretty townie in there and we talk more later, mybe about dmb and rayn. I ask him to comment on my collection of scummy posts by Trfel in the thread, he goes back to mafia claiming, saying he has an agenda. Next day when I do catch him online he reverted back to asking me to claim blue. At this point I see what he posts in thread and just am done with entertaining the thought he might be town, say he is just mafia - ask if marv is his partner. Later on after I see trfel slam and marv vote Chezinu against my wagon, I share with him my new reads, ask him to explain his DMB town read, but he is not there. To his credit he does give me an explanation about how if she was mafia why would she not buddy up to him, instead of being pissed off, after all he was lynching vivax, why she is pissed off that we were lynching vivax. Seems flimsy to me, but after that DMB starts posting some paranoid things after the flip and I share with him I've come around to the dmb town read. But he is never there again. He never asks me anything anymore. At this point he should be like 95% sure I'm town or if he was just super stubborn at the very least think it's a strong possibility. He does not engage anymore, doesn't ask me shit. Is never online when I am even when he is posting in the thread. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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On December 16 2023 06:21 Koshi wrote: Let's say you did come in uninformed in the thread. You didnt realise thet this sandroba lynch was breaking up. can you please tell me how sandroba lynch was breaking up when i came to the thread? | ||
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Koshi
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And your vote on Sandroba d1 is also sus. But also there it might be coincidence I guess. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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please look at the votes very carefully. | ||
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