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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 15 2023 21:44 GMT
#2281
On December 16 2023 06:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
D1 it was 13 minutes left in the day, there was NO ALTERNATIVE than Vivax or sandroba, i decided to vote for sandroba.

You can't fucking just say i "made the wagons TvT" because the other alternative is T v nothing".....

Ah ok. I didnt know if it was 2h or 15 mins tbh. Sloppy by me.
I had a good night of sleep.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 15 2023 21:46 GMT
#2282
Thread sentiment was definitely not towards Chezinu lynch.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 15 2023 21:46 GMT
#2283
marv please comment on this!
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 15 2023 21:47 GMT
#2284
On December 16 2023 06:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Thread sentiment was definitely not towards Chezinu lynch.

Yes everybody is lying.
You did it rayn.

Anyway.

Its Palmar/DMB and I am willing to stake the game on it.
I had a good night of sleep.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 15 2023 21:48 GMT
#2285
On December 16 2023 06:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2023 06:41 Holyflare wrote:
On December 16 2023 06:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 16 2023 06:36 Holyflare wrote:
This is also why I scum read you and think your bait didn't work and why I tried to bait you btw. The vote was very clearly breaking up on sandro and going to chez

Okay, explain me how this was the sentiment.


If you weren't in the thread you don't understand the vibe it's just easy to tell. Sandro looked so much better after the mason thing that his wagon dying was a foregone conclusion. Thus the question of who is next is in the air. There is not a single consensus scum read or proper push floating around and I've mentioned that I think chez is 100% mafia at some point.

Who was going to switch?
You were not.
Koshi was not (until marv did)
Marv was not (until the beating stuff happened, which noone had any idea about at the time)
Palmar was not (until everyone else had switched

WHO WAS GOING TO SWITCH? Chezinu was going to vote for sandroba 100% of the time. If i had dropped my vote on sandroba, i think 95% of the time sandroba gets lynched instead of Chezinu.


I probably would have switched at some point tbh just didn't see the need to because I thought it was just going to happen anyway without me and if you hadn't have voted there I may well have been convinced by slam at that point too.

Koshi was already mentioning it before you voted.
Marv was already thinking sandro looked better before that imo.
Palmar is likely mafia so irrelevant.

It's not the WHO that's important here, it's the sentiment and what direction you think the thread is going to go. If you think that day ends on sandro getting lynched before slam started the chez stuff I'd think you were wrong.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 15 2023 21:49 GMT
#2286
It doesn't have to be towards chezinu it was more importantly towards not sandroba and chezinu is the easiest already mentioned alternative.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
December 15 2023 21:50 GMT
#2287
On December 16 2023 06:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Thread sentiment was definitely not towards Chezinu lynch.

Rayn is not lying here, major turning point in lynching Chezinu was after I begged marv to move his vote and he did.
My point here is that Rayn did not help thread sentiment go against Chezinu, which detracts a bit from the fact that he did contribute to the lynch.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 15 2023 21:52 GMT
#2288
On December 16 2023 06:48 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2023 06:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 16 2023 06:41 Holyflare wrote:
On December 16 2023 06:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 16 2023 06:36 Holyflare wrote:
This is also why I scum read you and think your bait didn't work and why I tried to bait you btw. The vote was very clearly breaking up on sandro and going to chez

Okay, explain me how this was the sentiment.


If you weren't in the thread you don't understand the vibe it's just easy to tell. Sandro looked so much better after the mason thing that his wagon dying was a foregone conclusion. Thus the question of who is next is in the air. There is not a single consensus scum read or proper push floating around and I've mentioned that I think chez is 100% mafia at some point.

Who was going to switch?
You were not.
Koshi was not (until marv did)
Marv was not (until the beating stuff happened, which noone had any idea about at the time)
Palmar was not (until everyone else had switched

WHO WAS GOING TO SWITCH? Chezinu was going to vote for sandroba 100% of the time. If i had dropped my vote on sandroba, i think 95% of the time sandroba gets lynched instead of Chezinu.


I probably would have switched at some point tbh just didn't see the need to because I thought it was just going to happen anyway without me and if you hadn't have voted there I may well have been convinced by slam at that point too.

Koshi was already mentioning it before you voted.
Marv was already thinking sandro looked better before that imo.
Palmar is likely mafia so irrelevant.

It's not the WHO that's important here, it's the sentiment and what direction you think the thread is going to go. If you think that day ends on sandro getting lynched before slam started the chez stuff I'd think you were wrong.

I think you are lying if you are saying you would have switched before anyone else. You made it very clear.
Koshi would never switch from his "town core".
marv maybe, but no. there is no reason to think marv is going to switch there, unless what happened, happened. Maybe marv can comment on that.
Palmar was never gonna switch, and his posts after people already did seem fake as fuck
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 15 2023 21:52 GMT
#2289
On December 16 2023 06:50 sandroba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2023 06:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Thread sentiment was definitely not towards Chezinu lynch.

Rayn is not lying here, major turning point in lynching Chezinu was after I begged marv to move his vote and he did.

exactly
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 15 2023 21:53 GMT
#2290
On December 16 2023 06:49 Holyflare wrote:
It doesn't have to be towards chezinu it was more importantly towards not sandroba and chezinu is the easiest already mentioned alternative.

what does this mean?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 15 2023 21:55 GMT
#2291
On December 16 2023 06:50 sandroba wrote:
My point here is that Rayn did not help thread sentiment go against Chezinu, which detracts a bit from the fact that he did contribute to the lynch.

you realize i thought you are mafia as well?
table for two on a tv tray
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 15 2023 22:10 GMT
#2292
Am I misremembering something? I don't think Rayn's vote was before the marv stuff was it?

Regardless I don't think sandro gets lynched there either way before that still. You can believe it or not it's my opinion.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
December 15 2023 22:12 GMT
#2293
On December 16 2023 06:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2023 06:50 sandroba wrote:
My point here is that Rayn did not help thread sentiment go against Chezinu, which detracts a bit from the fact that he did contribute to the lynch.

you realize i thought you are mafia as well?

Yes, I'm not saying you are auto mafia for doing it - just saying the way you did it does not make you auto town, even if there is a plausible narrative here
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 15 2023 22:13 GMT
#2294
On December 16 2023 07:10 Holyflare wrote:
Am I misremembering something? I don't think Rayn's vote was before the marv stuff was it?

yes it was. it's also easy to check because i put my votes in the game thread as well.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 15 2023 22:13 GMT
#2295
On December 16 2023 07:12 sandroba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2023 06:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 16 2023 06:50 sandroba wrote:
My point here is that Rayn did not help thread sentiment go against Chezinu, which detracts a bit from the fact that he did contribute to the lynch.

you realize i thought you are mafia as well?

Yes, I'm not saying you are auto mafia for doing it - just saying the way you did it does not make you auto town, even if there is a plausible narrative here

so why are you saying i am mafia then?
table for two on a tv tray
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
December 15 2023 22:14 GMT
#2296
On December 16 2023 07:10 Holyflare wrote:
Am I misremembering something? I don't think Rayn's vote was before the marv stuff was it?

Regardless I don't think sandro gets lynched there either way before that still. You can believe it or not it's my opinion.

You are. At the point Rayn voted I still thought I would likely be the lynch. Only after when marv switched I thought there was hope.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 15 2023 22:14 GMT
#2297
My vote is on p98, marv stuff + vote is on p99.
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sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
December 15 2023 22:17 GMT
#2298
On December 16 2023 07:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2023 07:12 sandroba wrote:
On December 16 2023 06:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 16 2023 06:50 sandroba wrote:
My point here is that Rayn did not help thread sentiment go against Chezinu, which detracts a bit from the fact that he did contribute to the lynch.

you realize i thought you are mafia as well?

Yes, I'm not saying you are auto mafia for doing it - just saying the way you did it does not make you auto town, even if there is a plausible narrative here

so why are you saying i am mafia then?

The reasons I thought you were mafia was due to not commenting on anything relevant D2, coupled with the throw away vote on Chezinu. But I've come around since then based on recent posting tbh. Like after the flip I was like 90% on you, now I'm like 25%
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 15 2023 22:20 GMT
#2299
On December 16 2023 07:10 Holyflare wrote:
Regardless I don't think sandro gets lynched there either way before that still. You can believe it or not it's my opinion.

You have to elaborate on this.
Because if i had put my vote on sandroba (5-3), and Chezinu (obviously) votes for sandroba (now let's assume i am mafia and Chezinu is mafia), the vote is (6-3).

Maybe you can say that sandroba is not getting lynched, but that doesn't happen without an event that we don't know about, like marv's. Which is why i said i think marv's vote might have solved the game for me.

Because this line of arguing is just simply not reasonable. You're basically telling i voted for Chezinu because i knew Chezinu is gonna get lynched before an event that i have no way of knowing of happens.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
December 15 2023 22:21 GMT
#2300
This is all very exciting
Computer says mafia
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