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On June 11 2023 08:04 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2023 08:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I just genuinely don't think someone can change the way they think completely in such timespan. It's like LS being no matter how wrong in reading people just by meta he still does it every time. (no offense to LS i am not saying youre terrible or anything, just to make an example that if person's mind works in one way it's REALLY hard to change that way of thinking as town) I agree generally with this, and it is still wild to me how different the posting is across both games. I don't think i've ever seen anything like it.
It's not even difference in posting in general, it's uhhh.... you will find the same elements of how someone comes to their conclusions, that's my problem. It's not like "yeah they just learned to play better" because your mind STILL works the same way even if you learn something, you just adapt new information into it (learning).
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On June 11 2023 08:04 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2023 08:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I just genuinely don't think someone can change the way they think completely in such timespan. It's like LS being no matter how wrong in reading people just by meta he still does it every time. (no offense to LS i am not saying youre terrible or anything, just to make an example that if person's mind works in one way it's REALLY hard to change that way of thinking as town) I agree generally with this, and it is still wild to me how different the posting is across both games. I don't think i've ever seen anything like it.
I also agree with this, and I would prefer to lynch LS over DMB.
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On June 11 2023 08:07 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2023 08:04 Hapahauli wrote:On June 11 2023 08:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I just genuinely don't think someone can change the way they think completely in such timespan. It's like LS being no matter how wrong in reading people just by meta he still does it every time. (no offense to LS i am not saying youre terrible or anything, just to make an example that if person's mind works in one way it's REALLY hard to change that way of thinking as town) I agree generally with this, and it is still wild to me how different the posting is across both games. I don't think i've ever seen anything like it. I also agree with this, and I would prefer to lynch LS over DMB.
Never mind, I didn't read properly.
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On June 11 2023 07:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay Vivax lets lynch DMB.
##unvote
##vote DMB
Sensible choice
##Unvote
##Vote: DMB
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Did you guys read her play at the end of last game? if you ignore the batshit crazy shit towards the start this game is similar IMO.
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I don't think it is at all.
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On June 11 2023 08:09 DarthPunk wrote:
Did you guys read her play at the end of last game? if you ignore the batshit crazy shit towards the start this game is similar IMO.
It is definitely calmer than the beginning, but that's a pretty low bar.
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I read copcake and I don't think she's scum. She's been defensive but I don't really blame her. I'm gonna look at TTT and also DMB.
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Oh I almost forgot to post this:
![[image loading]](https://i.ibb.co/MGHHyhy/20230610-112718.jpg)
![[image loading]](https://i.ibb.co/jf8Z8rV/20230610-112711.jpg)
I saw this for Rels!!
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On June 11 2023 08:20 Chezinu wrote:Oh I almost forgot to post this: I saw this for Rels!!
Isn't for Rels from a game like 2 years ago?
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On June 11 2023 08:22 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2023 08:20 Chezinu wrote:Oh I almost forgot to post this: I saw this for Rels!! Isn't for Rels from a game like 2 years ago?
He got promoted to work for the government with Koshi. Here I am delivering mail.
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On June 11 2023 08:23 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2023 08:22 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On June 11 2023 08:20 Chezinu wrote:Oh I almost forgot to post this: I saw this for Rels!! Isn't for Rels from a game like 2 years ago? He got promoted to work for the government with Koshi. Here I am delivering mail.
They both blues in discord loading server too.
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On June 11 2023 08:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't think it is at all.
Yeah. I actually read both filters and you are right, the impression was similar to me, but it doesn't stand up to scrutiny.
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On June 11 2023 08:03 die_meatbaby wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2023 07:46 Chezinu wrote:On June 11 2023 07:42 die_meatbaby wrote:On June 11 2023 04:09 Vivax wrote:On June 11 2023 03:51 die_meatbaby wrote:On June 11 2023 03:33 Vivax wrote:
Probably town:
- Hapa (attitude mostly, like a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh)
- Marv (decent followup to bugs bunny intro, aligns with Hapa in some aspects)
- Rayn (I don't think he'd scumread Chez for his vote on me as mafia and would rather go along with it comes to mind as a reason)
- LS (Christmas tree salience recycled first post + I kind of agree with Slam on his initial analysis at this point.I think he'd have folded and fell over by now as scum)
- Vayo (weird gut reason, seems familiar idk how)
- Cop (tonally seems like annoyed town to me also #hashtag has me pocketed so congratz if scum)
Not sure, could murder:
Chezinu, Slam, DMB, MZ
Want to murder:
DP, TTT Why me? Maybe I want to motivate you a little. I don‘t know how you play scum but I know you play differently and more conscientiously and it sticks out to me that it could be a mafia sign, while it‘s an improvement in any case. Us voting for the same person definitely feels like one but do you think there‘s something that should make you slamdunk town? Maybe I want to motivate you a little. I don‘t know how you play scum but I know you play differently and more conscientiously and it sticks out to me that it could be a mafia sign, while it‘s an improvement in any case. Us voting for the same person definitely feels like one but do you think there‘s something that should make you slamdunk tow Last game was my first game. I just read the rules from Grack nothing else. In the game I started to read old other games. I got on wikimafia, where all is more specific explained. I got experience also if it was just one game. I think it's normal to improve after playing especially if I played first time to second time. After 5-10 times there will be not as much change as know. Think of you in the game when you started or any other game. Sorry if you see experience as scum you should drink less beer on my bar. Second I didn't write in English since years, just talk. Made it harder as well. Now it is less thinking, as before. Still have to improve my english. Voting for Dp was just my feeling for now. It's easier to read scum play after view days. I am still not sure about my vote and I will change it maybe and as you should now they game started at an day where I worked ofer 13 hours sleep 10 hours and got back to work. I have more time tomorrow and days after but especially you should know that I didn't have time to play as in the last game. Last game I filtered everybody for many times and was on the game for almost 5 hours+ on the day/night. You now my shift and sleep and cuddle time with you. I was 2 hours here since the beginning because I don't had much time and energy. You are studying and have all day free expect of washing clothes or cook or learn but still more time then me. Lol at cuddle time Yeah I mean time where we but our phones away and just enjoy our time together with no interruption. He knows what I mean
So. Looks like Vivax is going to help free up your time so that you are less busy. He is so caring to remove you from posting.
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On June 11 2023 08:31 DarthPunk wrote:Yeah. I actually read both filters and you are right, the impression was similar to me, but it doesn't stand up to scrutiny.
FWIW I think it could be explained from a tight schedule, and I hope if DMB is town then she will come and defend herself.
Better her than me though.
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Day One Vote Count
die_meatbaby (4): raynpelikoneet, Vivax, Hapahauli, DarthPunk
DarthPunk (3): CopCake, Vivax, die_meatbaby, LightningStrike, Vivax
CopCake (2): DarthPunk, TankTopTiger, Alakaslam
Raynpelikoneet (1): Chezinu
Meapak_Ziphh (0): Hapahauli
LightningStrike (0): raynpelikoneet
Chezinu (0): raynpelikoneet
Vivax (0): Chezinu
Vayoletta (0): DarthPunk
Not Voting (3): Meapak_Ziphh, marvellosity, Vayoletta
With 4 votes, die_meatbaby is currently set to be lynched!
The deadline is Sunday, Jun 11 2:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in
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TTT where are you at? What do you make of all this?
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OK I read TTT and I'm a little less certain of my read when I called him my top town yesterday but I do think he's been making some decent points. One thing I've noticed is that TTT likes to play the thread police which he did last game as well so thats giving me a warm fuzzy.
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On June 11 2023 06:38 Hapahauli wrote:I could lynch TTT. Really not a fan of how his reads have evolved over the course of Day 1. I think he has gone after LightningSTrike and CopCake very opportunistically, constantly, throughout the day. Show nested quote +On June 10 2023 22:48 TankTopTiger wrote:
##Vote: CC
I was holding off on voting because I felt too clouted up and didn't want people to wagon before developing reads. I'm voting CC based on her town reading Rayn from moment one.
I know DP IRL and we play together. We've clashed over these sorts of games before, and I fear those clashes more than I care about playing 100% optimal. But this never means assuming he's town. Instead, it means I give him the benefit of the doubt, and try to not be paranoid about "what if he's 400IQmafiabossing me rn?". While I expect different people have different approaches to how to play around relationship dynamics, I don't see a world in which the answer for CC is "just assume Rayn town".
Also, out of everyone, I want DP and Rayn alive D2. They were both crucial driving forces D1, and I have a green read on both. People upset about DP "forcing" and "playing different" should know that his claim of being time-stressed checks out (I'm verifying it now). His aggressive play was consistent between his pushing on Rayn and then CC, and makes sense given he's trying to contribute during the windows he has available. I think this vote on CopCake in particular is egregious, because he is accusing CopCake of giving Rayn the "Benefit of the Doubt" while essentially doing the same thing with DarthPunk. Looking at what he has said about his DarthPunk read, it is essentially that he is "playing different" and that he has a plausible IRL claim, but he hasn't elaborated on that at all.
Haven't caught up but commenting on this. You misunderstand me. I give DP benefit of the doubt, that's extremely different from assuming he is town. Basically I try not to initiate tunnels on him without really good reason, but I don't base my worldview on him being green until I have evidence for that notion. ATM his story checks out, and he is objectively productive D1, so I think lynching him is bad.
CC assumed Rayn town before she had any reason to do so. She based her read on DP on the foundation of Rayn being town. This is TMI.
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On June 11 2023 06:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Other than DP and Cake, my townreads are basically Slam, Hapa, and Vivax.
Others i can't either tell about but don't wanna lynch either (marv, possibly Vayoletta), or there are thing i definitely do not like about.
Vivax was blue last game and this game he is definitely not blue, and doesn't really look scummy at all, yet Chezinu placed his vote on Vivax when that was already clear. There's simply no reason to believe Chezinu would have "blue/red sickness", the vote was just incredibly out of place.
I have no clue what to think about MZ, i kind of agree with Hapa on the things on MZ, but i am HORRIBLE at figuring out MZ apparently.
DMB seems more self-aware than last game. Probably some of it comes with learning, sure, but like from a person whos cases were "these two people are 100000% mafia because they posted at the same time" and after that "these two people orchestrated the lynch D1" (when me and VE were pushing COMPLETELY different things all D1), i find it very hard to imagine town!DMB would actually be able to keep her head this straight in this game. Unless ofc, she is mafia and needs to actually just consider what to post to not get lynched aka what looks good, not what she actually thinks and how she's running the things in her head.
You're all the way to green on CC? Can I ask why?
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