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Meapak_Ziphh
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And you all are morons for not listening to me. | ||
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On June 11 2023 11:11 Hapahauli wrote: I"m sorry we should have tunnelled the un cc'd tracker all day. A better alternative. Congrats on not reading the thread for the last 2+ hours. We can lynch you tomorrow. | ||
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On June 11 2023 11:14 Hapahauli wrote: You are straight up lying if you're suggesting you weren't tunneling LS literally the whole day. You were suggesting lynching him until the second he claimed. Nah bro you're lying or your reading comprehension needs some help because I advocated policy lynching Vayoletta for a solid hour at eod and there were enough people around to make it happen. | ||
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On June 11 2023 11:45 TankTopTiger wrote: Do you normally get this angry? It feels fake because your position is weak (Tracker and policy), but Koshi was furious last game I guess under similar circumstances. No I'm honestly pretty chill but I'm really irritated with how the last couple hours have played out. | ||
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On June 12 2023 22:10 CopCake wrote: Why in the world, mafiacake would fight two big guys? Someone who has played with me pls answer that and talk about how I tend to play because these two say stuff that are lies or twist my words. Thank you. I am the new Marv in this game. I'm trying to read along with the thread on the shitter at work, I just have to say I fucking hate this post. | ||
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On June 12 2023 23:40 Chezinu wrote: TTT is obv mafia, but should we kill DP first? Is this a question to someone in the thread or a statement of what you believe? | ||
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If it's a statement of chez's reads then I hate that post too. My priorities for reading when I get home are gonna be vivax/dead Hapa/copcake again/now chez too | ||
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AND YES I KNOW NK WIFOM IS A THING PREEMPTING EVEYRONE REMINDING ME Spoiler for readability, here are Hapa's reads: + Show Spoiler + Hapa is green on slam: Here Doesn’t like me: Here Really doesn’t like me (he quotes my first post twice in two hours): Here Thinks Cake/DP is TownVTown maybe: Here LS is wishy washy town: Here Red on me and Chez: Here Waffling on me: Here Green on Slam, Rayn, Vivax, LS: Here Doesn’t want to lynch DP: Here Doesn’t want to lynch CopCake: Here Torn on me: Here Thinks DMB is a mislynch: Here Unknown on Chez, Marv, and Vayoletta: Here Red on TTT: Here +1’s the idea of a Vayoletta lynch: Here Not happy with a DP lynch: Here Settles on a DMB lynch Here Final vote for me: Here Both Hapa and I then make it clear we’re going to go after each other tomorrow. I was honestly floored he got NK’d. I was absolutely going to go after him for the DMB vote and the flipflop about vayoletta. I know I don’t have much thread presence but now that he’s flipped town it seems like it would have been a better scum play to let the two of us go after each other. So why did they kill him? I can think of three reasons: a) They wanted to frame me because he was the loudest voice calling me scum in the thread. I find this unlikely because nobody has really come out of the woods to push for my lynch today which honestly surprised me a bit b) They were blue hunting. Hapa didn’t have a super long filter but was clearly engaged with the game. Maybe scum thought he was blue trying not to draw attention to themselves. This is certainly a possibility. c) He had the scum team nailed. His scum list is me, TTT, Chez, and maybe Vayoletta. Now I know I’m town, so let’s see how many other people are calling the others scum. Just going to focus on Chez for now. a. Slam indirectly calls out Chez and says he’s sheeping Hapa b. Rayn votes for chez but unvoted well before the lynch and has since buddied him a bit c. I townread chez for a meta guess about chatGPT d. Not going to check DMB since she was dead e. Marv has one post saying he has no idea about chez’s alignment f. Vivax repeatedly calls chez unreadable and enigmatic and has buddied him a lot g. DarthPunk has Chez in his Green/Brown category h. Not gonna look through Chez about himself lol i. TTT says chez is cryptic/trolling/not playing the game j. Vayoletta has Chez listed as a PoE suspect k. CopCake simply says “chezinu… is chezinu” l. Hapa called Chez out multiple times m. LS says that Chez wasting his vote on Rayn is pretty bad Ok I have to be honest that took longer than I was expecting and I’m very surprised how few people have actually called out Chez. I wasn’t sure what I was going to find reading everyone’s filter to get their reads on him but I certainly wasn’t expecting Hapa to be the only person to directly call him out as scummy. LS is ironically the only other person who comes close (aside from Rayn's early vote). I’m going to post this now and start looking at how everyone has been reading TTT. I know a lot more people have at one point or another called him scum so I’m not expecting to learn as much. Bottom line, if Hapa got killed for being right on one of his reads, I think there’s a decent chance it was Chez... I guess I need to reread Chez now too fml. If you feel I have somehow misrepresented your read of chez feel free to throw spears and correct me. | ||
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On June 13 2023 09:31 DarthPunk wrote: Disagree, if TTT is scum with vayoletta, he would absolutely position himself against policy lynches to protect them getting flipped day one. That is exactly the kind of play I would expect from him. But its associative so not that important right now. I'm agreeing with this line of thinking | ||
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On June 13 2023 10:14 DarthPunk wrote: Do you really think they were blue hunting with two blue roles outed already? I don't really think it's likely which is why I spent so much time looking at Hapa's reads. I can't discount it being a possibility though so I added it to the list of reasons. | ||
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On June 13 2023 10:22 DarthPunk wrote: I think you missed a reason, Hapa is a strong town player and would , become correct. I don't place much stock into NK analysis because it is so easily manipulated by mafia. That's true but you could say the same for people like Marv, Rayn, or Vivax. If scum was going to kill anyone on potential I'd have to imagine they'd need a reason to differentiate amongst the potentially strong town players in this game. I'm not going to sit here and say we should lynch Chez based on the NK but I do think it's worth looking back and what Hapa said. | ||
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On June 13 2023 10:11 Chezinu wrote: Finally, people are looking at me. Thanks for the attention!! Are you still scum reading DP? | ||
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On June 11 2023 10:21 TankTopTiger wrote: I'm not sure what to think. I just compared her filters, and she was a lot more aggressive even after Vivax died than she is now (you were correct, my vibe was way off). This looks bad for her I agree. She says she hasn't got time for the game, but the type of aggression she was doing last game was not time-consuming. It was more like knee-jerk guttural suspicion. Her lists look similar, but she no longer feels like she's trying to figure out the game. She was never ginger about her accusations. So I think your initial reasoning was sound. As for the Vivax+DNB voteswitching, it being uncoordinated could just mean Vivax town. Would she have made that decision if she knew Vivax was switching? Nah. I'm not voting Vayo. It's a policy lynch in all be the most technical sense. Even if they're red we get no info. But we would have killed mafia which is the point of the game? idk why I missed this on D1 but this is terrible. | ||
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On June 12 2023 12:42 TankTopTiger wrote: A bit disorganised at this point, reading through all the posts since #30 atm, I'm up to #53 so I'm biased towards happenings within that frame. I just spent a lot of time inside my head on you DP. Real spooky. I thought that a red DP would see the difference between DMB last game and this game, and know it meant blue. Then they could lead the mislynch, but have meta from previous game on leading mislynches. Bonus points for backing away from it at the last minute by reading them green (ad lib). But it was Rayn that pointed you in that direction, so that play doesn't work out unless redDP is very fortunate and just had this play fall into his lap (I don't think Rayn's suggestion was red at all). There were some other things. Your reactions have felt artificial twice to me - one was in response to CC, can't remember the other. You being onboard with policy feels irrational but I'm not actually sure on your position on that and WW may have softened you up. But overall it's too much reach, so I'm back to treating you as green based on the overall pro-townliness of your play. Your read on me is exactly what I would expect and I can't argue against it. I'm not as engaged in poor information environments. Rayn is green. LS is weird because I think he decided at the start of the game that he was going to play differently and so my main reason for giving him the benefit of the doubt feels artificial. Someone said at some point that he feels very in the moment and I agree with that. He also seems to come across as artificial whenever he thinks he should be providing an anger response (congruent with autism claim). So I sort of just want to leave him and see where he takes it for now. I still see CC as red. I don't really want to engage with her because she counter-tunnels and shits up the thread leaving everyone confused. I don't think there's anything she could say that would change my mind, but she also hasn't really done anything since that alleviates or intensifies my suspicion. The read is stale but it's still my firmest read. Overall, I think town have been eating town a lot, but also in many directions. This sort of environment is something I wanted at the start of the game (not the TvT thing, but the diversity of opinions thing as opposed to last game which felt sychophantic to me from many). This pushes me in the direction of thinking that mafia are more passive, so toward Vayo, Marv, and Slam. You said CC is stale but how is it your firmest read when you say you're thinking mafia are more passive? Let's put all the policy lynch stuff from D1 aside, would you vote Vayoletta today after the last 36+ hours of thread progression? On June 12 2023 16:07 TankTopTiger wrote: How did you have reads on Marv or Vayo? These seem like really weak reasons to give someone town points. Ok I don't disagree with you. Your posts are structurally almost identical to the last game but something still feels a little off to me and I think it's because you're still stuck on CopCake who I've been mostly green on so far and I feel like you're dancing around calling vayoletta scum even though you were one of the leading reasons that lynch never got off the ground. I think if you spent more time on your other reads and less time on CC I'd be more inclined to townread you again but until then it feels like you're using the CC tunnel to deflect/avoid other reads. I don't think I want to lynch you today. I want you to help me lynch Vayoletta | ||
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On June 11 2023 07:42 Chezinu wrote: Also, Vay said that they were going to be AFK before hand. On June 12 2023 23:40 Chezinu wrote: TTT is obv mafia, but should we kill DP first? On June 12 2023 11:07 Chezinu wrote: Boo!! It's not a blue. Slam confirmed town. On June 13 2023 08:53 Chezinu wrote: OK. time to series. seriously. Let start a keto diet. Step 1. Eliminate carbs. #Vote Copcake + Show Spoiler + Now, you just need to argue how your are the cop guarding the cake and preventing us from eating it. Then other may argue that there is no cake and that the cake is a lie. But others will say it just matters what is on the inside. Then I'll be like. I love strawberry cake.. raspberries... cherries... On June 13 2023 09:14 Chezinu wrote: VAYO, CC, TTT This progression is fucking wild Chez. You start with don't lynch Vayo bc they said they'd be AFK. You posted this at 7:42 TL Time. Vayoletta did say two days prior that they were going to be busy on the first day... but then came back and said they were catching up here: On June 11 2023 04:25 Vayoletta wrote: I have had like the busiest weekend ever sitting pretty and drinkin vegan soy cafe latte at the edge of the town. Now it’s my time to walk into the centre with my fancy state of the art stiletto heels and proclaim Alakaslam vibes town to me. I put on my curved sunglasses as I look at the bright monitor once again, hoping to get beyond page 7 before the day ends. That's 3 hours before your post that Vayoletta said they were coming back to the thread. Maybe a little TMI from a mafia QT? Who knows but it's odd you would defend them for being AFK when they had already come back to the thread and started posting. Then you said slam was town Then vayoletta said slam was town and you were on her PoE list Then you voted CopCake Then you called Vayoletta scum with CC and TTT. That whole progression on vayoletta is something. As is the scumread of DP which you dropped and your sudden vote on CC. I don't think I've fully solved everything but I'm pretty sure if we start lynching into Vayoletta/Chez/TTT we're going to hit at least one scum. | ||
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After Vayoletta you and TTT can enter the thunderdome for who gets lynched next. | ||
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