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Meapak_Ziphh
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My personal life took a nosedive so y'all have no idea how happy I am to get to hang out with everyone again. | ||
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I have work today so I'll mostly be phone posting but definitely scumreading LS right now (again) and I think DarthPunk came off looking worse in the exchange with CopCake that I just read. I'm townreading chezinu on a complete shot in the dark that his chatgpt nonsense is a protest against not being able to use his seal. After attempting to gut read slam last game and being wrong I'm back to forever null on him TTT probably my strongest town read DMB has a lot more confidence this game, don't think that's alignment indicative yet but I'll be interested to see how things progress. Aight I'll be in and out today, I'll have some free time tonight. | ||
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I'll be around the rest of the evening if folks wanna chat. | ||
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Actually DMB I wanna know this answer as well because last game when LS was mafia a lot of people (including scum) said something similar along those lines about suspecting him but then it took forever to lynch him. So I'd like to start getting people on record for what exactly about LS they don't like... and yes I know I haven't posted a fully fleshed out reasoning yet too lol, after dinner I'll get on my computer and explain. | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
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You have a 4 page filter and one read (darth) which you don't even seem to believe in. Don't worry, once this chicken & pasta is done I'll have it nicely explained. Sorry it looks like you rolled scum again :/ | ||
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I need to stop posting and finish cooking, I also recognize I could be tunneling myself and it doesn't help that rayn agreeing with me has reinforced my reads. I'll be objective as possible when I go through your filter. | ||
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Second, I'm a bottle of wine deep for personal reasons so apologies for any misspellings or other grammatical issues. Finally, let's get to LS On June 09 2023 21:03 LightningStrike wrote: TTT seems likely town given how they played last game. Also I do got you town as well so far. Outside of that though nothing really catches out to me at the moment. Ok fine, it's early, not gonna hate you for nothing catching your eye On June 09 2023 21:41 LightningStrike wrote: I do hope he answers this so we can figure what that post actually means. I'm going to do my best not to sound super sarcastic when I right this but come on, it's chez "I hope he answers so we figure out what it means?" Like what does it mean to you dude? Why highlight this? It's chez who the fuck knows what it means? This post serves no purpose I should pause here and explain how I think, I write these posts knowing what my gut says based on what I've read previously in the thread but I don't go in with a conclusion in mind. If LS brings attention to Chez again and continues this line of inquiry I will stop finding this post suspicious. On June 09 2023 21:50 LightningStrike wrote: I can actually confirm that from reading that OBS chat. We were all in the OBS chat, it's literally the same people, we can all confirm that. Another useless post. On June 09 2023 22:22 LightningStrike wrote: The Copcake stuff. I did reread it though maybe something there? Darth at least is the same alignment as me this time around I think though reading his filter. "Darth at least is the same alignment as me this time around I think through reading his filter" On June 09 2023 22:46 LightningStrike wrote: This Copcake vs Darth stuff is making my head spin -.- useless On June 09 2023 22:48 LightningStrike wrote: That has to be the only explanation otherwise this just shitting up the thread for very little reason. Again this is making my head spin -.- useless I hate these two posts. It's funny how he talks about shitting up the thread yet his own posts aren't actually helping to unwind the thread except for +1ing rayn. The next few posts, while ironically similar to stuff I've said regarding my IRL activity, are part of what's feeding into my impression that LS is attempting to generate activity to avoid some of the scumtells he fell victim to last game: + Show Spoiler + On June 10 2023 00:02 LightningStrike wrote: Correction on my advising appointment: It's in 45 minutes thought it was starting now (facepalms). Hopefully we get more people to enter the thread. On June 10 2023 01:17 LightningStrike wrote: Just got done with my advising appointment: Glad to see Hapa did post something! On June 10 2023 02:43 LightningStrike wrote: I am not surprised you are scumreading me again given that last game I was scum but this time around I am town. In regards to Darth vs CopCake you said Darth looks worse in that exchange does that equate to him being mafia or just him just looking worse? IDK LS, what do you think? I personally only say that people are looking bad when they're looking scummy to me. Earlier you said Darth was the same alignment as you, so are you going to defend him? OK so now I've entered the game this AM and we're getting to the posts that really caught my attention when I was catching up this afternoon: On June 10 2023 02:49 LightningStrike wrote: By the way anyone else felt like the Darth vs Copcake stuff felt forced? What in the actual fuck does this mean? Why do you think it was forced? Do you think both Darth and Copcake are scum? What posts do you felt were forced? What does this serve to do other than fish for suspicions? On June 10 2023 04:15 LightningStrike wrote: Also CopCake Ya idk if it's super alignment indicative with his case on you like that to be honest. In addition that entire line of stuff between you two felt off idk why yet. This post feels like opportunistic scum looking for suspicions to feed on, if it's NAI why bring up this stuff in the first place other than to sow doubt and distrust among the town? I hate when people say that something feels off and then can't elaborate why. Like at least quote a post of one of Cop/Darth and say "I didn't like that." Tone reads are fine, honestly just meta/vibes are fine. But at least put yourself on record and quote a post or two that made you uncomfortable/suspicious. Otherwise this is just trash that clutters the thread. On June 10 2023 05:54 LightningStrike wrote: Ok riddle me this: If I was mafia this game especially how bad I played last game as mafia why would I craft that opening forgetting that I even did that opening before as town? Hint: I actually wasn't anxious and didn't craft that post. There's more wine in front of this post than there is wine in my glass, and hint hint, there's a lot of wine in my glass. Tbh this post was the first one where I thought "he knows he didn't play scum well last game, what if he's deliberately trying a more active style this game to avoid attention." On June 10 2023 06:03 LightningStrike wrote: Also I do want people to chime on something I posted earlier: Why tf would anyone chime in when you haven't told them what's making you feel that way? The continued unfounded accusations and unsubstantiated suspicions are not working for me. Page 25 is worth a reread for everyone, in particular look at the LS/Cop/Rayn posts. Rayn reads what's being posted and immediately comes to the conclusion that an LS lynch is a good idea. For those who don't want to click the link, I'll summarize. LS gets pushed on his comment about the Darth/Cop interaction Rayn/Cop get LS to say the thinks that there's scum between Cop/Darth. After some more pushing, LS says that: On June 10 2023 06:12 LightningStrike wrote: Ok if I have to choose out of Darth and CopCake who is mafia more likely Darth? CopCake didn't lie about her stuff towards him and Darth really made something out of nothing for no reason? Darth really made something out of nothing for no reason? This was your townread bro, the one you said was the same alignment as you. And after rayn and copcake pushed you about the Cop/Darth being townVmafia you flip and say Darth is now possibly scum? I'm just trying to work through this and here's where I keep coming back to the conclusion that LS is scum. He's got Darth as a townread. He says there's something off with DarthVCop. When pushed he says that it feels like TownVMafia (even though he initially said the interaction felt forced which is usually what people say when they're analyzing a MafiaVMafia interation). Once he says he feels one of them could be scum, he gets pushed on which one and he says it's Darth.... his previous townread. I'll give LS a point, Rayn did ask him to choose and then acted surprised when LS said he was "forced to choose" but at the same time it doesn't really matter because he still chose someone he was townreading previously without any real progression. Here's more status updates: On June 10 2023 09:03 LightningStrike wrote: fyi guys I wont be around starting in 58 minutes I got a TTRPG session (Session 1 for a new game) On June 10 2023 09:58 LightningStrike wrote: With that being said I am heading to my TTRPG session will check in the thread once the session is done! On June 10 2023 11:20 LightningStrike wrote: Session is on a break at the moment: I haven't voted anyone? I could be tunneled again, it happens. But the random suspicions, flip flopping of reads, and the apologetic town/updates ... it just feels to me that LS rolled scum again and is trying not to get caught so quickly this time. I am open to all questions. | ||
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I read the scum chat from last game. You were extremely active in that chat (and you can use that weather radar picture someone posted to roughly figure out where I live lol). You are a lot more active this game so the biggest "tunnel" argument I think I'm making is suggesting that your increased activity is scummy. Who do you think is scum right now. DP because you felt he misrepresented Copcake? Rayn or myself because we've called you scum? You've got a 4 page filter and I don't know who you think is mafia. Help me get untunneled, give me some reads you're willing to stand behind. This was last game: On May 25 2023 08:43 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I just love when people who aren't very active magically show up when their name is mentioned, especially close to the deadline. I don't know enough about his meta game to say that low activity is alignment indicative but I will say I've hated how all of his reads are either "town" or "null" Also his above post has the exact same vibe as this one: Who do you want to lynch LS? Since all the wagons are forming "too fast" EBWOP The red stuff is the same vibe I'm getting this game from you LS, even with your increased activity. | ||
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On June 10 2023 16:00 TankTopTiger wrote: Okay, this seems like a clear picture of what happened to me. CC, is there anything wrong with this depiction? FWIW, I don't think CC wants to be in this fight if she's red, so I don't think she would lie in order to make this fight happen. That'd make no sense. I'm red on CC, but not because of lie-gate. Did I miss something in your filter TTT? Why are you red on CC? | ||
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On June 10 2023 12:26 LightningStrike wrote: I was scum hunting by asking questions about people trying to come up with my own conclusions? I did come up with my own conclusions and was some of posting them. Who is mafia LS? | ||
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On June 10 2023 20:54 Hapahauli wrote: I still think the worst thing in the thread is MZ's posting. I've mentioned his entrance post, but his post on LS also gives me the shakes. I think it is a lot of grandstanding by MZ. Full of very unnecessary sarcasm, snarkiness... like he's trying to criticise LS's play. I'll elaborate more when I am at my computer later this afternoon. I await this with baited breath | ||
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On June 11 2023 07:09 Hapahauli wrote: To be clear, I am not reading Cake as town solely because she is displaying emotion. I look for what emotions people should be displaying given the circumstances, and Cake lines up well. Whereas, MZ does not to me (grandstanding on LS seems like manufactured indignation in context). Literally all of your points against me Hapa are that you don't like the tone of my posts. Go read Marv's "analysis" of me last game and then reference my VT flip. I'm not gonna waste thread space arguing with people about my "tone" or whatever you want to call it two games in a row. | ||
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In no particular order: Slam Hapa Vayoletta (Yes I'm aware I routinely say I can't read slam) I need to reread DMB/Copcake/TTT because I remember reading them slightly green yesterday but I haven't been as impressed with them today. | ||
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On June 11 2023 07:37 raynpelikoneet wrote: Idk yet but i am not voting DP or Cake and it's gonna be mistake to vote for either one. I tentatively agree with this pending what I find in Cop's filter. | ||
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On June 11 2023 07:38 DarthPunk wrote: ##Unvote: Copcake ##Vote: Vayoletta I think this is a start actually. I also don't think this is a terrible idea either. | ||
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On June 11 2023 07:40 Hapahauli wrote: I'll give you your space to do your work, but these to posts don't really jive at all if your understanding of the game is that the DP wagon is suspicious. The DP wagon is copcake/DMB/LS/vivax. How does that not jive with me already scum reading LS and then saying I haven't been as impressed with DMB/copcake? | ||
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and even grack was like “interesting you read him like that” so dont try to manipulate the story.
