EPTTL Endures Mafia - Page 18
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On May 28 2023 23:46 Chezinu wrote: I <3 u, Marv ❤️ | ||
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I’m done, I’ve not got the energy. | ||
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On May 29 2023 17:38 TankTopTiger wrote: Do mafia get to keep posting in the mafia discord after they've been lynched? For my own filter in ~36 hours | ||
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So, as I've already talked about, what rayn started doing towards me just demoralised me massively, and my last vote on DP I did genuinely intend to be my last post of the game. But I still want town to win, so these are my thoughts that you can take with you into day 4. After you lynch me you will need to lynch correctly twice in a row or mafia wins. Some stuff I am pretty sure about, some I'm not. die_meatbaby is town. Or at least if she is not town, the game is massively invalid in my eyes due to the ridiculous amount of setup nonsense that went on. My other supporting evidence is VE's post regarding this below. On May 27 2023 09:04 VisceraEyes wrote: This. Meat is town and we should just not fucking talk about it. VE is plenty good at faking emotion and all that sort of stuff as mafia. But this is not fake - this is a mafia-VE frustrated that the antics around that playerslot have essentially confirmed DMB as town. Do not lynch her, ever. Alakaslam I also think is town. Something that rayn pointed out is that MZ's goodbye post was actually kind of weak, so why did people believe it? One theory is that mafia know it's true and so have some sort of reaction to it. This is possible. But why would a mafia-Slam, knowing that both lynches on D1 are town, even need to engage with it? Why does a mafia-Slam, who is apparently hard-town reading marv (yes I've confirmed towned myself just to be gratuitous) paint a massive target on his back for going against his townreads and voting Vivax, when he could have just stayed on MZ no questions asked? It doesn't make much sense to me. After I wrote this I went back to read rayn's post, as I remembered he said Slam was town and I couldn't remember why. Turns out it's exactly the same reason, so if we've both come to that conclusion it's a fair stab that Slam is town. Chezinu - I have a hunch this guy is town, don't wanna talk about it really. TankTopTiger On May 29 2023 17:38 TankTopTiger wrote: Do mafia get to keep posting in the mafia discord after they've been lynched? On May 29 2023 21:54 TankTopTiger wrote: I was thinking about what happens if we lynch marv and he's red. I was worried about a situation where we'd have to hunt down one of the non-contributing players who is then being micro-managed by a skilled player which would be hard. Frankly I think these 2 posts are a bit outrageous to make if you are mafia (and tbh probably shouldn't be asking them in the thread if you're town). So for this reason alone he should be town. When I think about his gameplay it's basically a tunnel on me - well, fine. There's 2 options here: 1. him and DP are working completely in tandem as a mafia pair. Sounds crazy but not impossible. 2. DP has pocketed TTT and DP is riding off TTT's fervour. This is what I think is most likely. LightningStrike I really have nothing further to add than what rayn said, so I'm just gonna quote it. rayn wrote LS looks definitely worst in the bunch. Disconnected with the game, and while i have nothing really that says "this guy is definitely scum", i have also nothing that says this guy is definitely town. Everyone else looks just more town, that's it. I think you should always lynch LS the next day, it's just the most likely correct answer by poe and his disconnect with the game. Low volume poster or not, his posts still feel like no intention to solve. Just as an aside, if you are town and voting me you are ignoring the bolded bit. Although I would also tell you to ignore it, so I'm not actually trying to make much of a point here  DarthPunk He is always mafia. I've talked about why before, but for the sake of completeness, I will summarise it here again. Firstly, he too easily gave out townreads for quite a portion of the game. This is a mistake I desperately have to try not to fall into every time I play scum, and I don't always succeed. The weird early hard townread of die_meatbaby, when the rest of the townies were a lot more cautious, or actively calling dmb mafia (e.g. Koshi). The point (night 1 I think? I forget slightly) where he posted that he simply had "too many townreads" at a point I had 2 good townreads (Koshi and rayn). This is not a natural way for a townie to be thinking about the game, townies are a paranoid people. Readers, if you are town, ask yourself if you ever had too many townreads in this game. Secondly, the turnaround on VE. DP made a really long post with about 20 quotes from VE and came to the conclusion that VE was most likely town. rayn makes a comment about VE's emotion (or lack of) and DP, after thinking so hard about VE's alignment, just flops the other way. Readers, if you are town - how easy is it for you to change your mind when you have just spent a lot of time thinking about someone's alignment? Also, please read again the passage of play where I start calling DP mafia. He was not calling me mafia before that. He tells me he knew my scumread on him was coming - he knew he'd misplayed. Tell you what, if I'm town in DP's position there, as far as I'm concerned I've just listened to a very likely townie (rayn) and voted for mafia (VE). I'd be feeling nervous (about the lynch to come) but happy. I wouldn't be feeling guilty - "I knew this read on me was coming". The inherent guilt of being mafia. Then the way he starts calling me mafia - "FWIW I think marv could be mafia". Of course he just happens to wait until I have called him mafia, and then very casually says "FWIW". None of anything of what DP has done is how a townie thinks. Lynch him with fire I will not defend myself any further - this is my position. I will take no questions from DP because he is mafia. TTT - if you are just going to take the position that I am mafia spewing bs, fine. But assuming you are town, please go back, read my thoughts here again as if they are legitimately townie, and think about them. If you don't believe me, fine. Lynch me and then come back to this post. | ||
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If not, then I will flip town, DP will get lynched and flip mafia, then you will get lynched. Your choice bud. | ||
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On May 30 2023 03:20 DarthPunk wrote: Hey slam if I am lynched and flip town. Then what? Do you thi j you can lynch Marv without me and ttt in the game? ^ he plays on fear | ||
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Instead both LS and DP conspicuously don’t talk about the content at all. Fascinating! | ||
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On May 30 2023 04:35 DarthPunk wrote: You are amazing!!!! They are both confirmed mafia to me at this point, so either lynch is good, its just going to be really hard to lynch marv later, cause we only need one townie not on that wagon and we lose, and, as you saw, marv is really convincing. Really convincing because it’s genuine. That’s why you think it’s really convincing Town, are you seeing all this? Slam, LS is most likely just bussing to get a reaction from you. If you don’t see that then not a lot I can do. If DP and LS are mafia together I backed them into a corner and they need to make a plan, which probably isn’t LS hard defending DP. | ||
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On May 30 2023 09:41 DarthPunk wrote: This is correct but your not account for nightkill so we will lose another strong townie or correct townie or a townie that could become correct. It gets really bad which is why I thought we need to lynch Marv first while maf have a bit less influence. Than the obvious ls lynch after that. If you lynch me, when I flip town you need to lynch Marv and ls and all townies need to do this And Marv is really convincing so he could easily mindfuck one of them into voting idk like chez or meat baby or something. Sorry I don’t believe anything you’re saying. I said DMB is confirmed town and don’t lynch her, ever. if I am mafia, I am closing my team’s options to win the game down, not opening them up Town, go back read my big post. Even if you don’t agree with all the conclusions it’s a townie post as hell. And the reason for that is I’m town. I’ve seen some vague talk of meta, I’d be incredibly surprised if anyone found a post with content and tone such as that post. Because I can’t make them as mafia I can’t compete with DarthPunk’s thread presence, that much is obvious. Him being here to bully you into voting me isn’t townie, it’s just being here. Just to recap a couple of DP’s reactions today. 1. I vote DP and say it’s all been too much for me. No reaction from DP. As DP himself self-described, he is an emotional in the moment type player. if I am town and it looks like my main scumread is giving up, I am saying something about it. Anything! 2. He tries to use fear as reasoning on Slam as a reason not to vote for him. “How you gonna lynch marv without me and TTT?” He asks Slam. That is playing on fear. A couple of posts later he tries to excuse his fear blackmail (that’s what it is), saying he is “planning for when he dies and flips town”. That’s not how do you do it guys. What I did is how you do it. My reads are out there in the thread in the best way I could, that’s how you do it as a townie. mafia appeal to fear, not townies. | ||
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Don’t know where DP’s post is, but I’m answering that and not meatbaby. The reason a mafia “suicidally” tries to lynch marv is that means it’s lylo where town has to lynch correctly twice to win. That’s a good setup for mafia. As you tried to argue against me, anyone could be the target to get one of those mislynches. Even more plausibly for mafia DP as he has not cleared anyone as town like town-marv has. | ||
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On May 30 2023 16:51 TankTopTiger wrote: If he suicides to get the lynch, then it's not really needing two correct lynches in a row to win, as him dying is implied. It is, but town still needs to get it right twice, even if 1 of them seems obvious. What I’m saying is if mafia-DP sees town-marv coming at him full pelt, a 1 for 1 swap for lynches there is a pretty decent result. See what I mean? | ||
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On May 30 2023 17:00 marvellosity wrote: It is, but town still needs to get it right twice, even if 1 of them seems obvious. What I’m saying is if mafia-DP sees town-marv coming at him full pelt, a 1 for 1 swap for lynches there is a pretty decent result. See what I mean? Because to reiterate, I came for DP before he came for me…. Not many (any?) manage to pull off a 1 for 1 swap with me. | ||
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On May 30 2023 17:24 DarthPunk wrote: You weren’t coming at me full pelt though until I voted for you. You were hedging even night 2. And soft pushing since day 1. Looking forward to putting together these quotes later | ||
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On May 30 2023 17:31 DarthPunk wrote: Why not nk you and use my thread presence to not Insta die? Because then you’d have to deal with rayn who just saw me flip town | ||
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