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deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 28 2022 17:37 GMT
#90
/in
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 29 2022 18:04 GMT
#101
So we are definitely lynching Chezinu D1 right?
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 29 2022 18:14 GMT
#105
On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:
I'm town


Awesome we have one confirmed town. Anyone else?
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 29 2022 18:30 GMT
#116
Nah I haven't claimed town yet, still deciding.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 29 2022 18:36 GMT
#122
On August 30 2022 03:20 Jockmcplop wrote:
Probably not no. I'm hoping he makes more funny videos.


What's the funny video quota to avoid lynching?
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 29 2022 18:48 GMT
#134
On August 30 2022 03:41 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2022 03:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I'll get back to you Rels when i get home in an hour.
Happy youre playing and not afking though ^^

haha yeah I'm hyped to be playing after years of abstinence :p


Same. Last game I played was Crossfire Mafia back in 2015
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 29 2022 19:09 GMT
#143
I like Jock, so they're probably mafia
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 29 2022 19:12 GMT
#144
Anyone who's posts I like always turns out to be mafia
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 29 2022 19:15 GMT
#147
On August 30 2022 04:14 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2022 04:09 deconduo wrote:
I like Jock, so they're probably mafia

The implication is that you don't like the others.
How do you think they feel about this? This is human beings you're talking about.

Others haven't posted enough for me to make a decision yet *shrug*
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 29 2022 19:16 GMT
#148
On August 30 2022 04:15 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2022 04:12 deconduo wrote:
Anyone who's posts I like always turns out to be mafia

The question is, if you've noticed this pattern before, didn't you just vote for the people whose posts you liked?
How did it go?


Don't remember, its been years
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 29 2022 19:17 GMT
#149
My old rule was always vote Palmar day 1
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 29 2022 19:20 GMT
#152
On August 30 2022 04:17 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2022 04:16 deconduo wrote:
On August 30 2022 04:15 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 30 2022 04:12 deconduo wrote:
Anyone who's posts I like always turns out to be mafia

The question is, if you've noticed this pattern before, didn't you just vote for the people whose posts you liked?
How did it go?


Don't remember, its been years

I usually put this kind of thing (people whose posts i like tend to be mafia') down to cognitive bias. You'll always remember the times that this did happen, not so much when it didn't imo.
Its probably a bit too much of a vague criteria to be actually true.


Well yes, I wasn't actually claiming that my subconscious is a highly honed mafia finding machine that can sniff out scum 20 minutes into day 1

Or maybe ...
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 29 2022 20:06 GMT
#171
Hi Dandel
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 29 2022 20:12 GMT
#178
On August 30 2022 05:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2022 03:47 Rels wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:41 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:36 Rels wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:28 Rels wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:14 deconduo wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:
I'm town


Awesome we have one confirmed town. Anyone else?

lol?

did you skip HF post on purpose?

Which post and whatsm i supposed to do eith it?

Was wondering why you didn't address this post:
On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb


What?

But responded to the very next one:
On August 30 2022 03:14 deconduo wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:
I'm town


Awesome we have one confirmed town. Anyone else?

But then you posted your clarification at the same time I posted my question


Am I wrong or was his clarification to do with a totally different post, not the 'lol?' or hf's post?
Confused.

He didn't reply to HF post directly but addressed the question (at least a little bit, we'll apparently get the full context of the Vivax trap later)

So yeah, "this game i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb" is a reference to the last game where i was mafia with vivax and he rb'd trfel who we knew was jailer, just to realize after night phase that even though trfel got roleblocked he could still jail me (apparently "before getting roleblocked" roflmao) and our night kill didn't go through. It actually sparked a stupidly idiotic post game discussion where some people actually considered that is not bs hosting.

Anyways it was originally a prod towards Vivax since not once or twice have i figured out his alignment based on some random looking comment which he should be actually responding to (at least jokingly if not otherwise), and here also feeling the same way in case he is also town. He's known to pay way less attention to the game as mafia than as town, especially early on in the game. But yeah i typoed and it is what it is now, useless.

I don't really think i should have any response about HF's posts because my post is not directed to him (same as Jock a bit later). I don't remember if i actually talked about the incident later with HF in discord but anyways he's gonna claim he doesn't remember it or doesn't genuinely remember it (in case we did talk about it) and there is no way to confirm that so there really is nothing for me to respond.
_____

I liked Jock's eagerness in the beginning, although now i don't really know what he's trying to do especially with deconduo, after deconduo's first couple of posts i don't think there is anything could be alignment indicative, yet for some reason Jock's pushing that forward, it seems quite useless to me. I was about to say i think he's town earlier, but i will take that back.

deconduo's a bit... idk. I don't think his response to HF's "im town" is alignment indicative necessarily, just very... stupid? However i really don't get this:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2022 03:30 deconduo wrote:
Nah I haven't claimed town yet, still deciding.

What incentive would you EVER have to NOT claim town as town in your mind deconduo?


What's the benefit of claiming town?
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 29 2022 20:17 GMT
#184
On August 30 2022 05:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2022 05:12 deconduo wrote:
On August 30 2022 05:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:47 Rels wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:41 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:36 Rels wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:28 Rels wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:14 deconduo wrote:
[quote]

Awesome we have one confirmed town. Anyone else?

lol?

did you skip HF post on purpose?

Which post and whatsm i supposed to do eith it?

Was wondering why you didn't address this post:
On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb


What?

But responded to the very next one:
On August 30 2022 03:14 deconduo wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:
I'm town


Awesome we have one confirmed town. Anyone else?

But then you posted your clarification at the same time I posted my question


Am I wrong or was his clarification to do with a totally different post, not the 'lol?' or hf's post?
Confused.

He didn't reply to HF post directly but addressed the question (at least a little bit, we'll apparently get the full context of the Vivax trap later)

So yeah, "this game i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb" is a reference to the last game where i was mafia with vivax and he rb'd trfel who we knew was jailer, just to realize after night phase that even though trfel got roleblocked he could still jail me (apparently "before getting roleblocked" roflmao) and our night kill didn't go through. It actually sparked a stupidly idiotic post game discussion where some people actually considered that is not bs hosting.

Anyways it was originally a prod towards Vivax since not once or twice have i figured out his alignment based on some random looking comment which he should be actually responding to (at least jokingly if not otherwise), and here also feeling the same way in case he is also town. He's known to pay way less attention to the game as mafia than as town, especially early on in the game. But yeah i typoed and it is what it is now, useless.

I don't really think i should have any response about HF's posts because my post is not directed to him (same as Jock a bit later). I don't remember if i actually talked about the incident later with HF in discord but anyways he's gonna claim he doesn't remember it or doesn't genuinely remember it (in case we did talk about it) and there is no way to confirm that so there really is nothing for me to respond.
_____

I liked Jock's eagerness in the beginning, although now i don't really know what he's trying to do especially with deconduo, after deconduo's first couple of posts i don't think there is anything could be alignment indicative, yet for some reason Jock's pushing that forward, it seems quite useless to me. I was about to say i think he's town earlier, but i will take that back.

deconduo's a bit... idk. I don't think his response to HF's "im town" is alignment indicative necessarily, just very... stupid? However i really don't get this:
On August 30 2022 03:30 deconduo wrote:
Nah I haven't claimed town yet, still deciding.

What incentive would you EVER have to NOT claim town as town in your mind deconduo?


What's the benefit of claiming town?

There is none but if someone asks you if you're town you either say "yes" or "that's a dumb question, why are you asking that?".

I mean in my opinion those are the only reasonable answers to the question as town, no?


I mean maybe the sentiment didn't come across clearly enough - but yes my response was b) "that's a dumb question, why are you asking that?" just phrased differently
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 29 2022 20:24 GMT
#191
48 hour day one is indeed a long day
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 29 2022 20:40 GMT
#208
Yeah, claiming town means nothing* as I assume everyone knows. My original reply to Holy was a tongue in cheek, as was the follow on. If I have to be explicit for the no-fun people - I am town.



*(For this setup anyway - obviously could be a different situation in some of the more weird setups or if there's neutral roles)
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 29 2022 20:42 GMT
#212
On August 30 2022 05:40 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2022 05:40 deconduo wrote:
Yeah, claiming town means nothing* as I assume everyone knows. My original reply to Holy was a tongue in cheek, as was the follow on. If I have to be explicit for the no-fun people - I am town.



*(For this setup anyway - obviously could be a different situation in some of the more weird setups or if there's neutral roles)

see that he gave in so easily
lynch this man


I'm so transparent what gave me away.


(Do I need to start using /s in my posts? I'm not sure)
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 29 2022 20:51 GMT
#225
100% confirmed town
Holyflare

Leaning Town:
Dandel Ion + Jockmcplop (Lovers quarrel)


Undecided:
deconduo
Alakaslam
CopCake
Tubesock
Meapak_Ziphh
raynpelikoneet
Rels
Mattchew

Leaning Mafia:
Vivax (Pretending to bus Koshi)
Koshi

Chezinu:
Chezinu
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 29 2022 20:53 GMT
#227
Sorry forgot about the post where I confirmed I was town, updated list:

100% confirmed town:
Holyflare
deconduo

Leaning Town:
Dandel Ion + Jockmcplop (Lovers quarrel)


Undecided:
Alakaslam
CopCake
Tubesock
Meapak_Ziphh
raynpelikoneet
Rels
Mattchew

Leaning Mafia:
Vivax (Pretending to bus Koshi)
Koshi

Chezinu:
Chezinu
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 30 2022 08:10 GMT
#276
Morning all. I heard you like lists. I like lists. I'm gonna make another list.

People who are fun:
Jock
Dandel
Slam
Koshi
Vivax
CopCake
Tube

Neutral:
Rels
Matt

People who are not fun:
Rayn

People who are attempting to suck every molecule of fun from the game:
MZ

Chezinu:
Chezinu
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 30 2022 10:26 GMT
#289
On August 30 2022 19:12 Jockmcplop wrote:


Serious question to decon:

Can you go back through your posts, there's been plenty of them, and tell us which ones we can take seriously, except for the posts you make telling us not to take other posts seriously?
Because it seems to me like every time you post something and someone comments on it, its either a joke post, or you didn't actually mean what you were saying, or its tongue in cheek.
If you don't put your tongue back in its natural position sometime soon you're at a terrible risk of it getting stuck in your cheek.


None of them are particularly serious, but they are meant to ruffle feathers a bit. How people respond to them is always interesting. We have plenty of time left in the day for more serious posts, and shitposts do help get some insights on day one
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 30 2022 12:07 GMT
#313
On August 30 2022 20:49 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2022 20:43 CopCake wrote:
On August 30 2022 20:39 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 30 2022 20:31 Dandel Ion wrote:
On August 30 2022 17:10 deconduo wrote:
Morning all. I heard you like lists. I like lists. I'm gonna make another list.

People who are fun:
Jock
Dandel
Slam
Koshi
Vivax
CopCake
Tube

Neutral:
Rels
Matt

People who are not fun:
Rayn

People who are attempting to suck every molecule of fun from the game:
MZ

Chezinu:
Chezinu

this list is unironically revolting
koshi in the fun category smh

your last list was better, you fell off


It made me feel good, which gave me bad vibes instantly.
Man this game is so anti-human sometimes.


I think is the opposite, I tend to put so much "feel" I tend to feel exhausted at the end. Specially the times when I roll scum several times consecutive.


Its definitely exhausting. I get what you mean, I think we're saying similar things. I get exhausted constantly having to second guess myself remembering not to like people who are being likeable. That's what i mean by anti-human.
Do you have any reads yet?


It's completely fine to like people, but it shouldn't stop you from voting them.

The game would be boring if everyone took it completely serious all of the time, especially on day 1 when there's so little to go off.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 30 2022 12:08 GMT
#315
On August 30 2022 20:31 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2022 17:10 deconduo wrote:
Morning all. I heard you like lists. I like lists. I'm gonna make another list.

People who are fun:
Jock
Dandel
Slam
Koshi
Vivax
CopCake
Tube

Neutral:
Rels
Matt

People who are not fun:
Rayn

People who are attempting to suck every molecule of fun from the game:
MZ

Chezinu:
Chezinu

this list is unironically revolting
koshi in the fun category smh

your last list was better, you fell off


But he's a comedian, how could he not be fun?

On August 30 2022 15:30 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2022 06:27 Vivax wrote:
On August 30 2022 06:25 Koshi wrote:
Claiming green to copchecks. So Godfather or vanilla town. I read page 5 and my role pm. Tomorrow more.


Page 5:

On August 30 2022 03:02 Dandel Ion wrote:
I do wish to be a replacement


Yes. I am a comedian.


deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 30 2022 12:20 GMT
#316
Where did HF go? I think he's actually moving to my mafia list
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 30 2022 12:23 GMT
#318
On August 30 2022 21:20 deconduo wrote:
Where did HF go? I think he's actually moving to my mafia list

Rels as well did some drive by posting and then disappeared
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 30 2022 12:23 GMT
#319
On August 30 2022 21:21 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2022 21:08 deconduo wrote:
On August 30 2022 20:31 Dandel Ion wrote:
On August 30 2022 17:10 deconduo wrote:
Morning all. I heard you like lists. I like lists. I'm gonna make another list.

People who are fun:
Jock
Dandel
Slam
Koshi
Vivax
CopCake
Tube

Neutral:
Rels
Matt

People who are not fun:
Rayn

People who are attempting to suck every molecule of fun from the game:
MZ

Chezinu:
Chezinu

this list is unironically revolting
koshi in the fun category smh

your last list was better, you fell off


But he's a comedian, how could he not be fun?

On August 30 2022 15:30 Koshi wrote:
On August 30 2022 06:27 Vivax wrote:
On August 30 2022 06:25 Koshi wrote:
Claiming green to copchecks. So Godfather or vanilla town. I read page 5 and my role pm. Tomorrow more.


Page 5:

On August 30 2022 03:02 Dandel Ion wrote:
I do wish to be a replacement


Yes. I am a comedian.




Clearly you haven't watched any recent Ricky Gervais 'comedy'.


Ugh yeah, reasonable
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 30 2022 12:58 GMT
#329
On August 30 2022 21:27 Jockmcplop wrote:
Let me ax you somefink.

If MZ isn't being FUN, does that affect how you see his alignment, if so, how?


Nope, but if I'm 50/50 between people on a vote I'm more inclined to keep fun people around. Generally( not always) they are more active and help drive the thread forward.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 30 2022 12:58 GMT
#330
Jock is probably town. Active, asking good questions, not pocketing
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 30 2022 13:01 GMT
#331
On August 30 2022 21:45 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +

I honestly feel like people hasn't posted enough, the only thing that gave me a bad sensation was Vivax, he feels like another person and not himself.


Stuff happened, and also this is the first game on here in ages and I don't want to lynch anyone tbh

If you had to vote now who would you vote for and why
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 30 2022 13:10 GMT
#335
On August 30 2022 21:51 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2022 21:39 Jockmcplop wrote:

On August 30 2022 21:37 Koshi wrote:
Ok then I call Rels, rayn and Hf all 3 mafia.


omg this almost makes me want to vote you.
Can people start posting what they actually think and take all of your goddamn tongues out of your cheeks.

I now think that.
Consensus is that my CC case is shit. Like really shit.
Thread seems pretty cool.
People not in the thread are potential not cool.
ergo Rels rayn and HF are mafia.
ezpz


Rayn has been posting a bit. There's others that have been less active, why pick Rayn here?
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 30 2022 13:11 GMT
#337
On August 30 2022 21:39 Jockmcplop wrote:

omg this almost makes me want to vote you.
Can people start posting what they actually think and take all of your goddamn tongues out of your cheeks.


Eh it's still not even halfway through day 1.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 30 2022 13:27 GMT
#340
On August 30 2022 22:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
. Last night o read some of hisrecent games.


[image loading]

I applaud the effort, but I suggest you check the dates of those games and the definition of recent.


Though this is one of the towniest things you've done all game.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 30 2022 14:05 GMT
#348
^ Good post. MZ did feel needlessly nit picky/tunnelling, but I didn't want to omgus so early in the game so I kinda ignored them.

A few people have thrown shade at CopCake including MZ but I don't really see why
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 30 2022 14:06 GMT
#349
We're allowed to unvote and switch votes right? Don't see anything about it in the OP
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 30 2022 16:26 GMT
#388
On August 31 2022 00:28 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2022 21:20 deconduo wrote:
Where did HF go? I think he's actually moving to my mafia list


By the way, why did you think this?


You disappeared from the thread when it got active. That normally sets off alarm bells for me as mafia like to post a bit of fluff and then fade into the background on day one. It's all been good since you came back.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 30 2022 19:36 GMT
#421
Matt will either appear or be killed off at this point so

##Vote: Rels for now, posting just enough to not get modkilled
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 30 2022 19:36 GMT
#422
Oh hi Matt
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 30 2022 19:38 GMT
#423
On August 31 2022 02:14 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2022 01:36 Dandel Ion wrote:
On August 31 2022 01:35 Dandel Ion wrote:
On August 31 2022 01:32 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Also I still don't like decon but multiple people are convinced he's "playful town." I'll have to compare between him and cop and figure out who I dislike more.

all i need to read you is an answer to the following:
How often do you find yourself shaking a fist at other people?

like, IRL

Oh I missed this part, well I'm in the military so unfortunately more than I'd like to lol.

This makes a lot of sense now
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 30 2022 19:43 GMT
#428
Overall almost everyone seems pretty townie so far. I've got Rayn and MZ in my 'interesting' group - but that could just be cos they've both had a go at me. Not convinced they've done anything actually scummy but it can be hard to distance myself from a bit of tunneling and look at the situation critically. I'll do review of them tomorrow i think.

Looking forward to what Matt has to say
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 30 2022 19:43 GMT
#429
On August 31 2022 04:39 Jockmcplop wrote:
Is there a reason everyone isn't voting for vivax right now?


They've posted better stuff than Rels
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 30 2022 19:55 GMT
#439
@Chezinu - this game is for you, are you gonna play it?
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 31 2022 10:48 GMT
#634
Rels is alive, that's good.

##: Unvote
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 31 2022 11:02 GMT
#635
On August 31 2022 07:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2022 07:26 Koshi wrote:
On August 31 2022 07:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So deconduo's 1st page of filter is sarcasm or talking about those posts he made sarcastically. As i already said i find it very counter productive to scumhunting since at least me and Jock wasted some time trying to clarify something that was apparently basically jokes. In addition to that, if you look at the last three games in the database of his, as town he actually tries to scumhunt (useful), as mafia he pretty much posted nothing but setup discussion (useless) on D1.

If deco was really engaged and good in his previous 3 towngames, I am ok with voting him off based on his performance this game. Because this game the reads are pretty shallow and quick drawn.
Mafia that can't fake real reads and just quickly calls people town/mafia based on little or thread sentiment.

I dont know if he was good or not.
What i do know is that when he posts he scumhunts / gives reads as town, not so as mafia:
town - https://tl.net/forum/mafia/492282-tl-mafia-lxxii-gaiden-2?user=Deconduo
town - https://tl.net/forum/mafia/491681-tropical-storm-mini-mafia?user=deconduo
mafia - https://tl.net/forum/mafia/237920-world-at-war-2-mafia?user=deconduo

I don't believe people's habits change in 5 or even 10 years as he claims.



My play day 1 here is exactly the same as my play in day 1 in Gaiden. Did you actually read this at all???

TSM I missed most of day 1 (including the fun bits) for IRL stuff. I don't see any particularly deep scumhunting posts from this game and I was lynched day 1 lol.
WAW2 I had no fun stuff. I talked a lot of mechanics . Also I was way more agressive.

You're just making things up at this point. Your entire case is meta from 8 years ago and its not even right. You have nothing from this game at all.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 31 2022 12:47 GMT
#662
On August 31 2022 21:37 Jockmcplop wrote:

He's doing alot of fighting against rayn's posts about him, but it hasn't seemed to arouse any suspicion that rayn might be mafia, even though he claims rayn's entire case on him was meta from 8 years ago.
Given that rayn is a good town player, that would at least make me suspicious if i was decon.


Rayn reads like a tunnel vision townie rather than scum, someone who has (wrongly) made their mind up and won't change it. I've seen nothing to suggest Rayn is a good town player so far this game. There was an inkling when they went to the effort of reading my old games, but again it was pointless because it's clear there was only one going to be outcome when tunneled. I don't see scum purposefully trying to build a bad case, everything points to dumb town.

Good town players don't whine and throw tantrums and ask to be modkilled either.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 31 2022 12:53 GMT
#670
On August 31 2022 21:24 Jockmcplop wrote:
I'm getting a tinfoil about rels and decon. They're both in my mafia list anyway, but the way they read each other is weird.

Rels reading decon:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2022 11:40 Rels wrote:
On August 31 2022 11:29 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 31 2022 11:24 Rels wrote:
On August 30 2022 19:12 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:04 deconduo wrote:
So we are definitely lynching Chezinu D1 right?

Deconduo's first post.
I'm calling it now.
If one of decon or chezinu is mafia, the other is too.
Like obviously we're never lynching chezinu on day one and posting this is a good way to get some suspicion on anyone who agrees with him and tries to lynch chez.
Also, it might just be a joke post, but even if it is, i think its possible to make this connection from it.

Serious question to decon:

Can you go back through your posts, there's been plenty of them, and tell us which ones we can take seriously, except for the posts you make telling us not to take other posts seriously?
Because it seems to me like every time you post something and someone comments on it, its either a joke post, or you didn't actually mean what you were saying, or its tongue in cheek.
If you don't put your tongue back in its natural position sometime soon you're at a terrible risk of it getting stuck in your cheek.

This it it right for dec?

Pretty much.
There wasn't much to say at the time because all of his posts turned out to be jokes as soon as anyone questioned them.
So that's all there is to analyse, and it looks pretty scummy to me.

I see what you mean reading his filter in isolation. Not a lot of substance. But while reading the actual game, I thought his interactions were pretty natural.


He accepts that the reason i read him as scum is both true and valid, but then counters with 'but it looks natural'.

That's a very weak way to counter the points made against decon.

Of course, I'm open to the possibility that this is just rels hedging and not necessarily a link that makes them both mafia.

Show nested quote +
On August 31 2022 04:36 deconduo wrote:
Matt will either appear or be killed off at this point so

##Vote: Rels for now, posting just enough to not get modkilled


All rels has to do is turn up and post some, which he promptly does.
Then decon quickly unvotes him without further participation.

Show nested quote +
On August 31 2022 19:48 deconduo wrote:
Rels is alive, that's good.

##: Unvote


The whole thing looks mutually weird.

-----

I know this isn't some massive case but its not just me, right?


Rels had made 3 posts and everyone else (except Chez) was contributing. -> Pressure vote on

Rels made 2 pages of posts -> pressure vote off

Not really much more to it
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 31 2022 13:05 GMT
#675
On August 31 2022 22:04 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2022 21:57 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 31 2022 21:53 deconduo wrote:
On August 31 2022 21:24 Jockmcplop wrote:
I'm getting a tinfoil about rels and decon. They're both in my mafia list anyway, but the way they read each other is weird.

Rels reading decon:
On August 31 2022 11:40 Rels wrote:
On August 31 2022 11:29 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 31 2022 11:24 Rels wrote:
On August 30 2022 19:12 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:04 deconduo wrote:
So we are definitely lynching Chezinu D1 right?

Deconduo's first post.
I'm calling it now.
If one of decon or chezinu is mafia, the other is too.
Like obviously we're never lynching chezinu on day one and posting this is a good way to get some suspicion on anyone who agrees with him and tries to lynch chez.
Also, it might just be a joke post, but even if it is, i think its possible to make this connection from it.

Serious question to decon:

Can you go back through your posts, there's been plenty of them, and tell us which ones we can take seriously, except for the posts you make telling us not to take other posts seriously?
Because it seems to me like every time you post something and someone comments on it, its either a joke post, or you didn't actually mean what you were saying, or its tongue in cheek.
If you don't put your tongue back in its natural position sometime soon you're at a terrible risk of it getting stuck in your cheek.

This it it right for dec?

Pretty much.
There wasn't much to say at the time because all of his posts turned out to be jokes as soon as anyone questioned them.
So that's all there is to analyse, and it looks pretty scummy to me.

I see what you mean reading his filter in isolation. Not a lot of substance. But while reading the actual game, I thought his interactions were pretty natural.


He accepts that the reason i read him as scum is both true and valid, but then counters with 'but it looks natural'.

That's a very weak way to counter the points made against decon.

Of course, I'm open to the possibility that this is just rels hedging and not necessarily a link that makes them both mafia.

On August 31 2022 04:36 deconduo wrote:
Matt will either appear or be killed off at this point so

##Vote: Rels for now, posting just enough to not get modkilled


All rels has to do is turn up and post some, which he promptly does.
Then decon quickly unvotes him without further participation.

On August 31 2022 19:48 deconduo wrote:
Rels is alive, that's good.

##: Unvote


The whole thing looks mutually weird.

-----

I know this isn't some massive case but its not just me, right?


Rels had made 3 posts and everyone else (except Chez) was contributing. -> Pressure vote on

Rels made 2 pages of posts -> pressure vote off

Not really much more to it


Like I said before, don't argue against my case, go find scum. If you think my case is weak, maybe i'm scum, so figure out why and tell us.
So far you haven't done any of this.

A pressure vote is only good if it leads somewhere.

Let me ask you something, was rels simply posting alot of words enough for you to remove your vote, or was it something that he actually said that suggests to you he isn't mafia?

Because if he is mafia, telling him that you are voting for him because he hasn't posted much and then immediately removing your votes from him when he posts more words isn't a great way to put pressure on someone.


This is top tier town.


I dunno, feels a bit forced/tryhard? Maybe its just me
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 31 2022 13:14 GMT
#679
On August 31 2022 22:09 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2022 22:05 deconduo wrote:
On August 31 2022 22:04 CopCake wrote:
On August 31 2022 21:57 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 31 2022 21:53 deconduo wrote:
On August 31 2022 21:24 Jockmcplop wrote:
I'm getting a tinfoil about rels and decon. They're both in my mafia list anyway, but the way they read each other is weird.

Rels reading decon:
On August 31 2022 11:40 Rels wrote:
On August 31 2022 11:29 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 31 2022 11:24 Rels wrote:
On August 30 2022 19:12 Jockmcplop wrote:
[quote]
Deconduo's first post.
I'm calling it now.
If one of decon or chezinu is mafia, the other is too.
Like obviously we're never lynching chezinu on day one and posting this is a good way to get some suspicion on anyone who agrees with him and tries to lynch chez.
Also, it might just be a joke post, but even if it is, i think its possible to make this connection from it.

Serious question to decon:

Can you go back through your posts, there's been plenty of them, and tell us which ones we can take seriously, except for the posts you make telling us not to take other posts seriously?
Because it seems to me like every time you post something and someone comments on it, its either a joke post, or you didn't actually mean what you were saying, or its tongue in cheek.
If you don't put your tongue back in its natural position sometime soon you're at a terrible risk of it getting stuck in your cheek.

This it it right for dec?

Pretty much.
There wasn't much to say at the time because all of his posts turned out to be jokes as soon as anyone questioned them.
So that's all there is to analyse, and it looks pretty scummy to me.

I see what you mean reading his filter in isolation. Not a lot of substance. But while reading the actual game, I thought his interactions were pretty natural.


He accepts that the reason i read him as scum is both true and valid, but then counters with 'but it looks natural'.

That's a very weak way to counter the points made against decon.

Of course, I'm open to the possibility that this is just rels hedging and not necessarily a link that makes them both mafia.

On August 31 2022 04:36 deconduo wrote:
Matt will either appear or be killed off at this point so

##Vote: Rels for now, posting just enough to not get modkilled


All rels has to do is turn up and post some, which he promptly does.
Then decon quickly unvotes him without further participation.

On August 31 2022 19:48 deconduo wrote:
Rels is alive, that's good.

##: Unvote


The whole thing looks mutually weird.

-----

I know this isn't some massive case but its not just me, right?


Rels had made 3 posts and everyone else (except Chez) was contributing. -> Pressure vote on

Rels made 2 pages of posts -> pressure vote off

Not really much more to it


Like I said before, don't argue against my case, go find scum. If you think my case is weak, maybe i'm scum, so figure out why and tell us.
So far you haven't done any of this.

A pressure vote is only good if it leads somewhere.

Let me ask you something, was rels simply posting alot of words enough for you to remove your vote, or was it something that he actually said that suggests to you he isn't mafia?

Because if he is mafia, telling him that you are voting for him because he hasn't posted much and then immediately removing your votes from him when he posts more words isn't a great way to put pressure on someone.


This is top tier town.


I dunno, feels a bit forced/tryhard? Maybe its just me


The mindset is pretty townie. He is sure about you but gives space for you to hunt mafia.
If he is wrong, then he is wrong, we all make mistakes as town.



'Here is a case against you - but no no you can't respond to all the faults in it. Go hunt scum'

It's protecting himself against any criticism against holes in the case, and either:
- I don't find scum and he pushes a lynch while sitting back happy
- I find scum - he takes credit for 'forcing me to go hunt'

Very convenient.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 31 2022 13:21 GMT
#682
On August 31 2022 22:19 Jockmcplop wrote:
While you're here decon:

Show nested quote +
Let me ask you something, was rels simply posting alot of words enough for you to remove your vote, or was it something that he actually said that suggests to you he isn't mafia?


Just posting was enough - as I said in the original vote it was for 'Posting the bare minimum to not get modkilled'
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 31 2022 13:21 GMT
#683
Speaking of which - what has Vivax done to convince you to unvote him?
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 31 2022 13:28 GMT
#687
On August 31 2022 22:24 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2022 22:21 deconduo wrote:
On August 31 2022 22:19 Jockmcplop wrote:
While you're here decon:

Let me ask you something, was rels simply posting alot of words enough for you to remove your vote, or was it something that he actually said that suggests to you he isn't mafia?


Just posting was enough - as I said in the original vote it was for 'Posting the bare minimum to not get modkilled'


ok thanks.
This reads to me like a very shallow way to assign your vote. I was hoping you had some reasoning beyond that for removing your vote tbh. I thought rels' posting last night was hella scummy, as i posted earlier and DI also posted about (and did a better job of it than i did tbh).


I never pretended it was anything else. Pretty standard day 1 pressure vote to get inactives active. Active just means posting, I don't expect anyone to instantly write a page of awesome scumhuting. I don't expect everyone to be an awesome scumhunting wizard on day 1.

Maybe I just have low standards
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 31 2022 13:29 GMT
#689
On August 31 2022 22:27 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2022 21:38 Jockmcplop wrote:
Also koshi has made a fairly convincing case for letting vivax live for now.
I am also giving rels some credit for that too, hence the vote for decon.



On August 31 2022 16:23 Koshi wrote:
Lynching/shooting Vivax on D1/N1 is just fucking dumb. We all know the guy is an easy catch later on.
.


This case? What makes Vivax so easy to catch?
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 31 2022 17:13 GMT
#762
Hmm, MZ + Jock makes sense as a team
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 31 2022 17:14 GMT
#763
Would also explain the attempt to push the lynch on Vivax and then the switch to Rels when that didn't get momentum
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 31 2022 17:15 GMT
#765
Also both of them tried to push me
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 31 2022 17:15 GMT
#766
##Vote: Meapak_Ziphh
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 31 2022 17:53 GMT
#853
Last set of gut reads, good luck all

Probably Town
Koshi
CopCake
Holyflare
Dandel Ion
Rels
Alakaslam

Neutral
Tubesock
Mattchew
Vivax
Chezinu

Mafia
rayn: Supposed to be good, but terrible reads/tunneling. Tantrum
Jock:Felt good early game, started to feel forced. Feels like he wants people to like him. Bad reads
MZ:Tunnelling, bad reads
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 31 2022 17:56 GMT
#866
On September 01 2022 02:55 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2022 02:54 Koshi wrote:
Ok. 6 more mins but on page 37. Quick update?

Rels is not mafia, MZ is not mafia, Deconduo is probably not mafia, I will bet Mattchew is


You're right about me
Probably right about rels and matt
I think MZ is mafia
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