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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
November 30 2020 01:02 GMT
#961
On November 30 2020 09:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2020 09:46 Hapahauli wrote:
On November 30 2020 09:43 Tictock wrote:
On November 30 2020 09:37 Hapahauli wrote:

If mafia chooses not to roleblock me on N2, they are not going to shoot me, because from their perspective, I am still fairly likely (given my filter) to bomb Vivax, who I believe is mafia.


So you agree that mafia should have RB and Killed you?


I believe mafia had two reasonable plays:
1) They can RB/Kill me if they think I am difficult to lynch in MYLO;
2) If they think I'm not a "dangerous" blue role, they can try to snipe the bodyguard or another blue role.

Mafia know that I was JK'd N1. Would they risk shooting me knowing that I am a target for protection? I think not, but you be the judge.

Do you think mafia has no rb?


If Trfel was RB'd, the most likely explanation is mafia RB.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 30 2020 01:03 GMT
#962
Let me think for a while-
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 30 2020 01:09 GMT
#963
2) It was confirmed that I was JK'd Night 1.

why?

A mafia team (that doesn't include me) may feel very skittish about shooting into a target that was confirmed "saved" on N1, especially since the consequence of missing the shot means that town gets an extra mislynch. THIS IS PROBABLY WHY SHOCKEYY WAS SHOT, because there is no chance of him being saved.
3) If Vivax is mafia and mafia believes I'm a Mad Hatter, it's risky, since I spend a good majority of my filter attacking Vivax.

Okay, so why does a team of me and Vivax shoot shockeyy?

3) Why is it risky? I mean to shoot you or whatever if you were JK'd N1? I dont get it, mafia doesnt know if you were jailed N1 or not but they still do the opposite they should regarding to you?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 30 2020 01:13 GMT
#964
i am prolly really bad this game but i thought jock made the N1 kill and i was hesitant to shit on you guys... It was pretty much a jock nk, this doesnt seem like hapa kill but he he has to be mafia. he just has to. no way he is where he is. lynch me if you dont think he is mafia. i dont care i just care about being right or wrong.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
November 30 2020 01:15 GMT
#965
On November 30 2020 10:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
2) It was confirmed that I was JK'd Night 1.

why?


I am running under the assumption that Trfel is town. And if Trfel is town, I was JK'd.

Very strongly believe that I was JK'd night 1 is more accurate. Or basically confirmed in my mind anyway.

Show nested quote +
A mafia team (that doesn't include me) may feel very skittish about shooting into a target that was confirmed "saved" on N1, especially since the consequence of missing the shot means that town gets an extra mislynch. THIS IS PROBABLY WHY SHOCKEYY WAS SHOT, because there is no chance of him being saved.
3) If Vivax is mafia and mafia believes I'm a Mad Hatter, it's risky, since I spend a good majority of my filter attacking Vivax.

Okay, so why does a team of me and Vivax shoot shockeyy?

3) Why is it risky? I mean to shoot you or whatever if you were JK'd N1? I dont get it, mafia doesnt know if you were jailed N1 or not but they still do the opposite they should regarding to you?


You can project whatever feelings and thoughts onto a "mafia" team that you want, but ultimately, Shockeyy was shot. Have you thought about what that means regarding the game dynamic?

Mafia basically shot a lurker who could have been a mislynch target today. (Frankly, that may completely exonerate you as mafia, because I don't think you would ever make that shot now that I think about it).

So what does mafia have to believe or feel to shoot Shockeyy? They have to be super confident on a blue snipe, or super scared about missing.

Option 1 is plausible. Option 2 is also plausible, since like I said before, if their shot is blocked, town gets an additional lynch, which is super powerful with a town bodyguard floating around with the ability to confirm himself town.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 30 2020 01:16 GMT
#966
up tp you, and i guess it's me against hapa since whatever it would be.

goodluck scummer piece of shit!
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
November 30 2020 01:16 GMT
#967
On November 30 2020 10:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i am prolly really bad this game but i thought jock made the N1 kill and i was hesitant to shit on you guys... It was pretty much a jock nk, this doesnt seem like hapa kill but he he has to be mafia. he just has to. no way he is where he is. lynch me if you dont think he is mafia. i dont care i just care about being right or wrong.


What the fuck are you smoking or actually talking about? Jock NK? The fuck?

Where is iamperfection when I need him?
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 30 2020 01:17 GMT
#968
On November 30 2020 10:16 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2020 10:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i am prolly really bad this game but i thought jock made the N1 kill and i was hesitant to shit on you guys... It was pretty much a jock nk, this doesnt seem like hapa kill but he he has to be mafia. he just has to. no way he is where he is. lynch me if you dont think he is mafia. i dont care i just care about being right or wrong.


What the fuck are you smoking or actually talking about? Jock NK? The fuck?

Where is iamperfection when I need him?

I thought jock made the kill on slam at first.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
November 30 2020 01:18 GMT
#969
On November 30 2020 10:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2020 10:16 Hapahauli wrote:
On November 30 2020 10:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i am prolly really bad this game but i thought jock made the N1 kill and i was hesitant to shit on you guys... It was pretty much a jock nk, this doesnt seem like hapa kill but he he has to be mafia. he just has to. no way he is where he is. lynch me if you dont think he is mafia. i dont care i just care about being right or wrong.


What the fuck are you smoking or actually talking about? Jock NK? The fuck?

Where is iamperfection when I need him?

I thought jock made the kill on slam at first.


WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH ANYTHING?
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 30 2020 01:18 GMT
#970
i thought i wasnt good at english but i thought that was quite clear.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 30 2020 01:19 GMT
#971
On November 30 2020 10:18 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2020 10:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 30 2020 10:16 Hapahauli wrote:
On November 30 2020 10:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i am prolly really bad this game but i thought jock made the N1 kill and i was hesitant to shit on you guys... It was pretty much a jock nk, this doesnt seem like hapa kill but he he has to be mafia. he just has to. no way he is where he is. lynch me if you dont think he is mafia. i dont care i just care about being right or wrong.


What the fuck are you smoking or actually talking about? Jock NK? The fuck?

Where is iamperfection when I need him?

I thought jock made the kill on slam at first.


WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH ANYTHING?

nothing much.
i could use iamp aswell here, at least he can tell if i am mafia or not.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 30 2020 01:20 GMT
#972
so aside wrom your rage did i shoot shockeyy or not?
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Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
November 30 2020 01:21 GMT
#973
On November 30 2020 09:46 Hapahauli wrote:

Mafia know that I was JK'd N1. Would they risk shooting me knowing that I am a target for protection? I think not, but you be the judge.


Humm I suppose this is a fair point.

Though it means it was a really bad idea for you to make it so obviuse what your role was.

Which is actually your pov here, I never would have taken that post you quoted as a soft claim for hatter .
I can take that responsibility.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
November 30 2020 01:22 GMT
#974
Look. We're not doing this stupid "binary lynch" stuff. There is enough of a chance that we're TvT that I'm not going down that road.

I'm here, willing and able to talk. We can have a productive conversation, but please, please consolidate your thoughts. This will not be productive if I'm answering a string of random one-lined thoughts and questions.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 30 2020 01:22 GMT
#975
How does mafia know that TT?
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Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
November 30 2020 01:23 GMT
#976
Humm I might not have thought that fully through.
I can take that responsibility.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
November 30 2020 01:23 GMT
#977
On November 30 2020 10:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
so aside wrom your rage did i shoot shockeyy or not?


Fuck if I know. I'm spinning in circles. And apparently I'm incapable of actually filter diving and defending myself to rapid-fire questions. So I'm going to do this for now and dive for who I think is mafia tomorrow.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 30 2020 01:24 GMT
#978
On November 30 2020 10:22 Hapahauli wrote:
Look. We're not doing this stupid "binary lynch" stuff. There is enough of a chance that we're TvT that I'm not going down that road.

I'm here, willing and able to talk. We can have a productive conversation, but please, please consolidate your thoughts. This will not be productive if I'm answering a string of random one-lined thoughts and questions.

I agree with this, then dont fuck with me please nad provide fair points instead of bs.
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Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
November 30 2020 01:24 GMT
#979
On November 30 2020 10:22 Hapahauli wrote:
Look. We're not doing this stupid "binary lynch" stuff. There is enough of a chance that we're TvT that I'm not going down that road.

I'm here, willing and able to talk. We can have a productive conversation, but please, please consolidate your thoughts. This will not be productive if I'm answering a string of random one-lined thoughts and questions.


Ok who is mafia?
I can take that responsibility.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
November 30 2020 01:26 GMT
#980
On November 30 2020 10:21 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2020 09:46 Hapahauli wrote:

Mafia know that I was JK'd N1. Would they risk shooting me knowing that I am a target for protection? I think not, but you be the judge.


Humm I suppose this is a fair point.

Though it means it was a really bad idea for you to make it so obviuse what your role was.

Which is actually your pov here, I never would have taken that post you quoted as a soft claim for hatter .


If you didn't, you didn't. I may not have an accurate perception of how my post was taken by others. All I know is I didn't particularly care whether people knew what my role was or not. As I explained previously, if mafia thought I was a Mad Hatter, I believe that would serve as a general deterrent to shooting me. Atleast that's how I was thinking on D1/N1.

And again as previously stated, the Shockeyy shot makes the most sense if mafia is trying to make a shot to dodge protection at all costs.
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