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On November 30 2020 09:01 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2020 08:30 Hapahauli wrote:
Trfel - talk to me about this "you or me" thing. Why does one of us have to be mafia?
Obviously throw out everything I'm about to say if we have another blue claim, but 2 mafia + Evil Mastermind is a fucking disaster for town without a lot of blue-role backup. In my view, you're confirmed town with FF. You are not considering Mayor/Pardoner/Bodyguard as town favored balancing.
This is a fair point. Bodyguard is a +town thing.
I don't know much about balancing with 3P but EM isn't that strong of a role that I think town needs 3 blues.
Incorrect. Think about this: EM can recruit the fucking mayor. I didn't see any rule against that. Do you realize how insane that is?
Also giving town a hatter to compensate 3P KP doesn't make much sense to me as that seems like it would make the game even harder for town.
Also incorrect. Consider the situation that we are in: me killing a fellow townie (in the event that I got shot) does not at all change how many mislynches the town is allowed.
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So Hapahauli....
After you claimed blue, why do you think mafia didn't kill you and also didn't roleblock you?
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I think it was very easily deduced from my posting about what blue role I was.
As for why I wasn't killed, two plausible reasons:
1) I basically afk'd for 3 days.
2) Why would you shoot the Mad Hatter if you believe he is likely to deliver KP on mafia (i.e. Vivax)?
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On November 30 2020 09:10 Hapahauli wrote:
I think it was very easily deduced from my posting about what blue role I was.
As for why I wasn't killed, two plausible reasons:
1) I basically afk'd for 3 days.
2) Why would you shoot the Mad Hatter if you believe he is likely to deliver KP on mafia (i.e. Vivax)?
1) doesnt mean anything
2) but you would not kill vivax since you were you know rb N1?
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On November 30 2020 09:08 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2020 09:01 Tictock wrote:On November 30 2020 08:30 Hapahauli wrote:
Trfel - talk to me about this "you or me" thing. Why does one of us have to be mafia?
Obviously throw out everything I'm about to say if we have another blue claim, but 2 mafia + Evil Mastermind is a fucking disaster for town without a lot of blue-role backup. In my view, you're confirmed town with FF. You are not considering Mayor/Pardoner/Bodyguard as town favored balancing. This is a fair point. Bodyguard is a +town thing. Show nested quote +I don't know much about balancing with 3P but EM isn't that strong of a role that I think town needs 3 blues. Incorrect. Think about this: EM can recruit the fucking mayor. I didn't see any rule against that. Do you realize how insane that is? Show nested quote +Also giving town a hatter to compensate 3P KP doesn't make much sense to me as that seems like it would make the game even harder for town. Also incorrect. Consider the situation that we are in: me killing a fellow townie (in the event that I got shot) does not at all change how many mislynches the town is allowed.
I am considering a position where where did not kill EM at the start and there is suppendly 4 deaths in a night. That is not balanced.
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On November 30 2020 09:10 Hapahauli wrote:
2) Why would you shoot the Mad Hatter if you believe he is likely to deliver KP on mafia (i.e. Vivax)?
On November 30 2020 09:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
2) but you would not kill vivax since you were you know rb N1?
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On November 30 2020 09:10 Hapahauli wrote:
I think it was very easily deduced from my posting about what blue role I was.
As for why I wasn't killed, two plausible reasons:
1) I basically afk'd for 3 days.
2) Why would you shoot the Mad Hatter if you believe he is likely to deliver KP on mafia (i.e. Vivax)? As for point 2, that requires mafia being extremely smart.... I don't know if mafia is that smart 
I suppose they could have assumed that I would jailkeep you again, thus roleblocking you, but that seems risky.
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Err wait I guess 3 kills in a night would be the most possible in that hypothetical. Still though...
Voted Hapa
I have a really hard time seeing Rayn being mafia in this and Trfel would be playing his heart out if he is mafia here, and I don't think he would have to try this hard if that were so.
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On November 30 2020 09:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2020 09:10 Hapahauli wrote:
2) Why would you shoot the Mad Hatter if you believe he is likely to deliver KP on mafia (i.e. Vivax)? Show nested quote +On November 30 2020 09:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
2) but you would not kill vivax since you were you know rb N1?
Solid.
Really doesn't make sense for mafia to leave an UnCC'd blue alive and not RB him.
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hapa said he targeted vivax N1 and then said why would mafia kill me if i am gonna take mafia with me, he was roleblocked as per his words N1 so there is no vivax anyways.
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NOW HE IS ACTUALLY MAFIA AND DONT FUCKING DARE TO TELL JOKES ABOUT PEOPLE AS YOU DID LAST DAY OK?
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On November 30 2020 09:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
hapa said he targeted vivax N1 and then said why would mafia kill me if i am gonna take mafia with me, he was roleblocked as per his words N1 so there is no vivax anyways.
Right, even if as Hapa says that mafia figured he was a Hatter then they would know he hasn't placed any bombs so why not kill the unCC'd blue.
I assumed you were responding to my post.
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On November 30 2020 09:10 Hapahauli wrote:
I think it was very easily deduced from my posting about what blue role I was.
As for why I wasn't killed, two plausible reasons:
1) I basically afk'd for 3 days.
2) Why would you shoot the Mad Hatter if you believe he is likely to deliver KP on mafia (i.e. Vivax)?
Literally, whywould youbelieve you have a bomb on someone if you were rb'd N1?
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On November 30 2020 09:30 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2020 09:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
hapa said he targeted vivax N1 and then said why would mafia kill me if i am gonna take mafia with me, he was roleblocked as per his words N1 so there is no vivax anyways. Right, even if as Hapa says that mafia figured he was a Hatter then they would know he hasn't placed any bombs so why not kill the unCC'd blue. I assumed you were responding to my post.
Hapa was roleblocked N1 as per his words.
N2 he did shockeyy
D3 he claims that "why would you shoot the Mad Hatter if you believe he is likely to deliver KP on mafia (i.e. Vivax)?" But he was roleblocked and he knows it right? There is no kill on vivax ever because the bomb is not there and he knows it.
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i dont care if hapa placed bombs or not or if mafia did what the fuck ever but hapa claimed mafia doesnt want to kill him because he has a bomb on mafia!vivax and it is a lie.
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On November 30 2020 09:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2020 09:10 Hapahauli wrote:
I think it was very easily deduced from my posting about what blue role I was.
As for why I wasn't killed, two plausible reasons:
1) I basically afk'd for 3 days.
2) Why would you shoot the Mad Hatter if you believe he is likely to deliver KP on mafia (i.e. Vivax)? Literally, whywould youbelieve you have a bomb on someone if you were rb'd N1?
You are making way too many assumptions into what I am saying.
I didn't believe that I had a "bomb" on Vivax. Nowhere do I state that, beyond saying that I targeted him on N1 and was roleblocked.
If mafia chooses not to roleblock me on N2, they are not going to shoot me, because from their perspective, I am still fairly likely (given my filter) to bomb Vivax, who I believe is mafia.
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hapa never ever has a bomb on vivax 100%
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On November 30 2020 09:37 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2020 09:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 30 2020 09:10 Hapahauli wrote:
I think it was very easily deduced from my posting about what blue role I was.
As for why I wasn't killed, two plausible reasons:
1) I basically afk'd for 3 days.
2) Why would you shoot the Mad Hatter if you believe he is likely to deliver KP on mafia (i.e. Vivax)? Literally, whywould youbelieve you have a bomb on someone if you were rb'd N1? You are making way too many assumptions into what I am saying. I didn't believe that I had a "bomb" on Vivax. Nowhere do I state that, beyond saying that I targeted him on N1 and was roleblocked. If mafia chooses not to roleblock me on N2, they are not going to shoot me, because from their perspective, I am still fairly likely (given my filter) to bomb Vivax, who I believe is mafia.
I ma not making assuptions i am just reading your filter ansd posts.
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