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On November 27 2020 06:17 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On November 27 2020 06:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 27 2020 06:11 Hapahauli wrote:On November 27 2020 06:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am thinking if i can actually solve the game right now. Mechanically speaking, a VT. It would mean that in the remainder of the town, there would be 1-2 blue claims (given the 2 scum + evil mastermind, there is likely another town blue floating around to give the town a chance), in addition to 1 confirmed bodyguard claim. Pretty hard for scum to overcome. what? If I was mayor (in your position), I'd want to be VT, because it would be slightly easier for me to "solve" the game from my perspective in a mass claim situation. If you are referring to whether or not a mayor should be VT or Blue in general, it just depends on the blue role we are talking about. Mayor CPR doc is obviously insane. Mayor JK is pretty insane. Mayor [investigative role] is pretty good, though that is unlikely given Slam's flip.
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On November 30 2020 08:48 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On November 27 2020 06:17 Hapahauli wrote:On November 27 2020 06:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 27 2020 06:11 Hapahauli wrote:On November 27 2020 06:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am thinking if i can actually solve the game right now. Mechanically speaking, a VT. It would mean that in the remainder of the town, there would be 1-2 blue claims (given the 2 scum + evil mastermind, there is likely another town blue floating around to give the town a chance), in addition to 1 confirmed bodyguard claim. Pretty hard for scum to overcome. what? If I was mayor (in your position), I'd want to be VT, because it would be slightly easier for me to "solve" the game from my perspective in a mass claim situation. If you are referring to whether or not a mayor should be VT or Blue in general, it just depends on the blue role we are talking about. Mayor CPR doc is obviously insane. Mayor JK is pretty insane. Mayor [investigative role] is pretty good, though that is unlikely given Slam's flip.
I dont get it even now :o
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In that whole post, I'm saying that running for mayor is good with CPR Doc, JK, and Investigative role.
So if I'm not running for mayor, that leaves two things: Mad Hatter or Vigi.
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On November 30 2020 08:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2020 08:48 Hapahauli wrote:On November 27 2020 06:17 Hapahauli wrote:On November 27 2020 06:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 27 2020 06:11 Hapahauli wrote:On November 27 2020 06:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am thinking if i can actually solve the game right now. Mechanically speaking, a VT. It would mean that in the remainder of the town, there would be 1-2 blue claims (given the 2 scum + evil mastermind, there is likely another town blue floating around to give the town a chance), in addition to 1 confirmed bodyguard claim. Pretty hard for scum to overcome. what? If I was mayor (in your position), I'd want to be VT, because it would be slightly easier for me to "solve" the game from my perspective in a mass claim situation. If you are referring to whether or not a mayor should be VT or Blue in general, it just depends on the blue role we are talking about. Mayor CPR doc is obviously insane. Mayor JK is pretty insane. Mayor [investigative role] is pretty good, though that is unlikely given Slam's flip. I dont get it even now :o Haha, guess you're stupid!
(jk.. I don't get it either  )
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On November 30 2020 08:50 Hapahauli wrote:
In that whole post, I'm saying that running for mayor is good with CPR Doc, JK, and Investigative role.
So if I'm not running for mayor, that leaves two things: Mad Hatter or Vigi.
Okay, but at that point you didnt claim blue. So what makes you think i should believe i should think something like this when i dont have the info you do?
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On November 30 2020 08:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2020 08:14 Trfel wrote:
Regardless of Hapahauli's alignment, mafia knows there is a jailkeeper because Hapahauli claimed roleblock (town roleblocker is not a possible role). If Hapahauli is town, assuming mafia didn't roleblock him (very likely), then his roleblock claim indicates to them that there is a jailkeeper who did. If Hapahauli is mafia, which is my current belief, then he got roleblocked and thus knows there is a town jailkeeper. why does mafia always know there is a jailkeeper?can you explain it to me as i am dumb and 5y?
The only situation I can see where Trfels pov here is wrong is that both he and mafia targeted Hapa.
What would be really interesting here is if Hapa is mafia RB and got blocked then used his RB on Trfel last night.
If Trfel is mafiaRB here I again don't get why Hapa wasn't the kill last night after claiming he was RBd.
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And running for mayor is pretty insane with vigi, since I could shoot someone and instantly confirm the mayor role as town.
Mad Hatter is the only damn role in the game that I wouldn't run for mayor, because I basically can't use the fucking role if I'm mayor.
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likewhat is the dioffernce? VT, mafia, mad hatter, vigi? For you. How am i suppose to to do anything with that info, aside from telling you are NOT VT.
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On November 30 2020 08:53 Hapahauli wrote:
And running for mayor is pretty insane with vigi, since I could shoot someone and instantly confirm the mayor role as town.
Mad Hatter is the only damn role in the game that I wouldn't run for mayor, because I basically can't use the fucking role if I'm mayor.
you shopuld be running for mayor every time ever in my opinion so sorry that does not convince me.
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On November 30 2020 08:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
likewhat is the dioffernce? VT, mafia, mad hatter, vigi? For you. How am i suppose to to do anything with that info, aside from telling you are NOT VT.
My post admits that it is a good idea to run for mayor with a shit ton of blue roles. The flip side is that it is not necessarily optimal to run with certain roles, or really, a particular role. I wonder which one I left out of that post.
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On November 30 2020 08:53 Hapahauli wrote:
And running for mayor is pretty insane with vigi, since I could shoot someone and instantly confirm the mayor role as town.
Mad Hatter is the only damn role in the game that I wouldn't run for mayor, because I basically can't use the fucking role if I'm mayor. Huh, interesting..........
So you didn't run for mayor purely because of your Mad Hatter role? In that, you were hoping to die and take someone out with you?
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On November 30 2020 08:56 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2020 08:53 Hapahauli wrote:
And running for mayor is pretty insane with vigi, since I could shoot someone and instantly confirm the mayor role as town.
Mad Hatter is the only damn role in the game that I wouldn't run for mayor, because I basically can't use the fucking role if I'm mayor. Huh, interesting.......... So you didn't run for mayor purely because of your Mad Hatter role? In that, you were hoping to die and take someone out with you?
Correct.
My view was that:
1) I wanted to actually use my role, and/or;
2) If mafia was smart enough to pick up on that from the setup, I basically was guaranteed to stay alive and dodge shots, regardless of whether or not I was "protected".
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And what if you die N1 as you usually do?
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On November 30 2020 08:57 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2020 08:56 Trfel wrote:On November 30 2020 08:53 Hapahauli wrote:
And running for mayor is pretty insane with vigi, since I could shoot someone and instantly confirm the mayor role as town.
Mad Hatter is the only damn role in the game that I wouldn't run for mayor, because I basically can't use the fucking role if I'm mayor. Huh, interesting.......... So you didn't run for mayor purely because of your Mad Hatter role? In that, you were hoping to die and take someone out with you? Correct. My view was that: 1) I wanted to actually use my role, and/or; 2) If mafia was smart enough to pick up on that from the setup, I basically was guaranteed to stay alive and dodge shots, regardless of whether or not I was "protected". Huh. Interesting. Dunno what that means for the current situation, but interesting for sure.
I've got to think about this. Raynpelikoneet seems town, but he's also a really strong mafia player. Hapahauli seems town, but his claim seems like it would make for quite an extreme setup.
Then there's Tictock and Vivax....
I don't even know where to begin 
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This is one of the things that actually points to mafia-Rayn as opposed to town-Rayn, because I find it very unlikely that he didn't speculate about my role and which role in the setup would make sense if I didn't want to run for mayor.
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On November 30 2020 08:30 Hapahauli wrote:
Trfel - talk to me about this "you or me" thing. Why does one of us have to be mafia?
Obviously throw out everything I'm about to say if we have another blue claim, but 2 mafia + Evil Mastermind is a fucking disaster for town without a lot of blue-role backup. In my view, you're confirmed town with FF.
You are not considering Mayor/Pardoner/Bodyguard as town favored balancing.
I don't know much about balancing with 3P but EM isn't that strong of a role that I think town needs 3 blues.
Also giving town a hatter to compensate 3P KP doesn't make much sense to me as that seems like it would make the game even harder for town.
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On November 27 2020 06:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I genuinely thought you were a vet because to me it only made sense why you would not run for mayor, then i saw there is no vet in the roles....
And as a reminder, he read the setup in detail.,
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Anyway, I'm ranting. I'm going to do a deep read, sleep on things, and give more collected thoughts tomorrow.
I'll be around to chat for the rest of the night otherwise while I'm taking notes.
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On November 30 2020 09:01 Hapahauli wrote:
This is one of the things that actually points to mafia-Rayn as opposed to town-Rayn, because I find it very unlikely that he didn't speculate about my role and which role in the setup would make sense if I didn't want to run for mayor.
this is so much bullshit hapa..
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On November 30 2020 08:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What is your yolo scum tem D1?
Vivax/Hapa, I could dig it up iny filter but it's there.
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