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On November 26 2020 04:24 Tictock wrote: Does this feel weird to anyone else? Tictock was scumreading Fecalfeast and townreading Grackaroni. On one hand, I could see Tictock trying to word his argument in a way that's persuasive to me, but on the other hand, shouldn't he be restating his reasons to scumread Fecalfeast and townread Grackaroni?If you do get elected plz kill FF over Grack. FF is unlikely to suddenly start playing more, Grack is probably readable after enough time On November 26 2020 04:49 Tictock wrote: And this, which Tictock threw in 11 minutes to end of day. If he didn't want Grackaroni to die (by the way, he just said a few posts previously that he was okay with Grackaroni dying), shouldn't he prefer killing Fecalfeast to ShoCkeyy? Given that he actually has reasons to suspect Fecalfeast and ShoCkeyy is just a lurker?Resub FF/Sho? | ||
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I'll take a look at your Fecalfeast stuff in a bit. | ||
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On November 28 2020 07:06 Fecalfeast wrote: About what in particular, if I may? I don't agree with raynpelikoneet about Jockmcplop.I'll be interested to know if you agree with rayn | ||
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On November 28 2020 07:13 Fecalfeast wrote: I'm not sure I understand what raynpelikoneet is saying, unfortunately. But if I am understanding it correctly, he's basically saying that you aren't actually reading the game and are deciding your scumreads at random, and most of the reasons are proofs of this. Unfortunately I don't think that makes you mafia about this right here  which is disappointing to say. | ||
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I wouldn't be too sad if Fecalfeast is lynched and I would be willing to consolidate on him but I'd still much prefer Jockmcplop. | ||
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I'll take another look at Vivax's filter. | ||
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On November 25 2020 23:40 Vivax wrote: Vivax, this is an interesting lynch pool. Prior to this you said that Jockmcplop, Fecalfeast, and Tictock were town. I get that your read on Tictock changed because he stopped playing once townread, I'll let that slide. But on Jockmcplop, the reasons seem contradictory? And with Fecalfeast, did your early townread mean nothing?I think he just wanted to make a funny entrance. Don't really see him being mafia atm. Shockeyy is always like that. If I'd kill him then not because I think he's scum but because I will never be sure about what he is, probably. Someone mentioned earlier that Jock seemed less analytical than in his usual town games and I'll agree. I also find it odd in his case that he doesn't think Trfel is town given when they have been teammates and imo Trfel doesn't post like in that game (the "Trfel help" one). That said my lynch pool atm would be something along Shockeyy, Jock, Fefe. Maybe TickTock because he kinda stopped playing after getting townread by a few. What about Alakaslam, since you spent so much of your first page of filter criticizing his mayor run, why is he not in the lynch pool? Hard to look at filters and type a post while phone posting and exercising, I will double check these accusations. Ignore me if I missed something. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler [analysis] + Vivax on Fecalfeast: On November 24 2020 07:40 Vivax wrote: Fefes reaction felt more akin to mine. He can be town for today. On November 24 2020 23:28 Vivax wrote: Not happy with the volume of Fefes posts so far but purely format-wise it's what I'd expect from town Fefe (lazy posts). But maybe he learned to emulate that as scum, so I'll just leave it at a request for him to post more, especially if he wants to be mayor. On November 25 2020 02:15 Vivax wrote: In case someone wants to make me mayor, as in a rebellious maniac who mostly tryhards, here's my program. If I become mayor I'd use it as a vig shot on Shockeyy or FF if they don't rack up at least 2 pages of filter til the end of the day. That's the only thing that makes sense on a D1 with the awful scum hit rate and peeps should know. Otherwise I don't trust anyone to be able to figure out Shockeyy anyway. On November 25 2020 23:40 Vivax wrote: So Vivax's posts on Fecalfeast aren't very convicting (in the sense that it doesn't look too suspicious for Vivax). I can understand him going back on a very early post like that.eThat said my lynch pool atm would be something along Shockeyy, Jock, Fefe. Maybe TickTock because he kinda stopped playing after getting townread by a few. Vivax on Alakaslam: On November 24 2020 23:28 Vivax wrote: Slam intersecting between rayn + Hapa in a way that seems to favour Hapa strikes me as scummy along with saying he wouldn't run as mayor when mafia. Trying too hard to be the nice guy imo. On November 24 2020 23:34 Vivax wrote: Also that reminds me of Slam's comment that mafia wouldn't want the mayor spot or something like that (if I'm not confusing something because I'm not bothering to double check). Add that to his list of sins because it's nonsense imo. On November 25 2020 00:15 Vivax wrote: Don't even know where his Hapa townread came from. He's very one sided in his argumentation here. On November 25 2020 00:20 Vivax wrote: I mean, it's not an outright townread. But to me it looks like his entire approach only makes sense if he does at least believe he's town. Starting with what looks like banter to trying to find out why he isn't running. Top it off with him saying mafia wouldn't run, shouldn't he be more wary here? This it looks like he was trying to please him, or maybe you, in some way. For the sake of. On November 25 2020 00:22 Vivax wrote: Of note, it seems that Vivax is initially reading Alakaslam as scummy but this is as he is reading the thread. I assumed that this post:Anyway I don't want to call him mafia before I've read everything. Going to get to that now. On November 25 2020 00:45 Vivax wrote: meant that Vivax had caught up, but I suppose it's possible that this is not true and Vivax is still not caught up at this time. If that is the case, then this argument becomes a lot weaker.Strike while the iron is hot. I might forget something that caught my eye if I don't instantly write about it. But noted that to you the posts are pointless. Are they also pointless when I'm caught up? On November 25 2020 02:15 Vivax wrote: I can kinda see him not wanting to kill Alakaslam, despite scumreading him, to kill a lurker instead. I guess... Maybe.Seems to be a thing atm to just say x is mafia without pointing out anything in specific, ignore questions and peace out again. At least that's the pattern for Jock and Slam on the last page. For Jock minus the x is mafia but it leaves a bad aftertaste that he dodges or misses Hapas question. Either way Trfel seems like a reasonable choice for mayor. Pretty much my only TR at this point aside from tentatively ticktock. I'm kinda in a hurry so hoped I could do more during these hours. In case someone wants to make me mayor, as in a rebellious maniac who mostly tryhards, here's my program. If I become mayor I'd use it as a vig shot on Shockeyy or FF if they don't rack up at least 2 pages of filter til the end of the day. That's the only thing that makes sense on a D1 with the awful scum hit rate and peeps should know. Otherwise I don't trust anyone to be able to figure out Shockeyy anyway. When they rack up the two pages under duress, my watchful gaze, I'd just try to compromise on a lynch with whom I think is town. On November 25 2020 20:16 Vivax wrote: Then there's this post, which I missed earlier. I suppose if it really took Vivax until here to be fully caught up, I'm surprised but it can make sense. However, given the number of posts criticizing Alakaslam earlier, I wonder why Vivax is no longer scumreading Alakaslam? Is the glance at Hapahauli meant to say that he's sheeping Hapahauli's townread, or what is this about? If not, what is it? If so, did Vivax just not see this earlier or what?I'm caught up now. *retracts slam scumread and throws a glance at Hapa* Also less crazy today. Rayn could you talk a bit about your scumreads? You seem very calm, very diplomatic so far. I'd expect you to have sunk your teeth into someone by now in a more rain-y way. You explained you don't want to jump on Hapa then jumped on Hapa in the same post for not wanting to be mayor (I think?), that's the most fleshed out read I spotted yet somehow he ended up on the bottom of the list when you mentioned other scumreads. Vivax on Jockmcplop: On November 25 2020 01:08 Vivax wrote: So in summary, entrance kinda shitty here but otherwise I feel like Jock is thinking along my lines here in regards to Slam, Grack and Trfel. Which doesn't mean much alignment wise but I can work with him for today. On November 25 2020 23:40 Vivax wrote: Not much changed in Jockmcplop's filter during this time, in fact Jockmcplop was just returning to the thread with some big catch-up posts by the time Vivax posted this second post.I think he just wanted to make a funny entrance. Don't really see him being mafia atm. Shockeyy is always like that. If I'd kill him then not because I think he's scum but because I will never be sure about what he is, probably. Someone mentioned earlier that Jock seemed less analytical than in his usual town games and I'll agree. I also find it odd in his case that he doesn't think Trfel is town given when they have been teammates and imo Trfel doesn't post like in that game (the "Trfel help" one). That said my lynch pool atm would be something along Shockeyy, Jock, Fefe. Maybe TickTock because he kinda stopped playing after getting townread by a few. | ||
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On November 28 2020 09:06 Tictock wrote: Noooo, talk to me..... Phone posting and my keyboard is acting up (thing my case puts pressure on the screen sometimes and my keyboard glitches out). So going into lurker mode as typing sucks @ShoCkeyy, why are you changing votes (assuming you are)? I know you said you can see both Jockmcplop and Vivax as mafia, but it's hard for me to see you actually caring about who gets lynched, you just seem to be willing to vote for whoever thread sentiment is against. On one hand it's good to be willing to consolidate in a majority lynch game, on the other hand it seems suspect to not even care... | ||
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On November 28 2020 09:30 Tictock wrote: Sure, why not?You wanna tin foil a possible hapa/Rayn team with me? What makes you think that? I guess I have a hard time suspecting Hapahauli (especially after he claimed blue). Raynpelikoneet I could see being mafia a bit more easily, but his more recent posts have felt more like what I expect from him as town I guess? Though he could still fool me fairly easily. | ||
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On November 28 2020 10:03 Tictock wrote: Fair enough. I don't believe I have ever played with Hapahauli when he is mafia, but I believe his reputation is to be a weaker scum player with a strong town game.Was kinda a joke, would probably be the worst scum team for town to deal with. Though I would love to find solid reasons to keep the paranoia at Bay. Honestly I am not totally sure how to read them well. I have only played with Hapa once and I was mafia so him not feeling as obviuse town as I was him that game is not a good basis for a read. Still that feeling and not really liking/agreeing with his reads this game has me a little sus. As for Rayn I have been able to see where Rayn is coming from in general and have agreed with his reads, so is most likely town. However his play does feel in line with his mafia play in that he doesn't have as clear a focus as I tend to see him have and was willing to do what other people wanted over his own prefferrance as Mayor. None of that is really sufficient to call him scum but it does keep me from having a lock town read on him. Right now I do not understand where Rayn is coming from and disagree with his reads but am wanting to see his responses before I go much further on that. And just for a disclaimer: None of this effects the current state of the game where we should be lynching Jock kus he is super likely to flip mafia. Yeah, if they are both mafia here that would be quite bad. But especially with Hapahauli's blue claim I think we should be able to figure that out eventually in his case. Raynpelikoneet is a bit tougher I think but I'm not overly worried about him currently? I think once we get it down to one more mafia, things will be a lot easier. Sorry I'm a bit distracted, started playing Magic with some guys, I'll be around here still though. | ||
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On November 28 2020 10:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: Unfortunately, this is something Fecalfeast is known for, at least as far as I know.There is this dude who just did that. Trfel. Then there is this dude who openly claimed to basically doing that. Well unfortunately it doesn't make him mafia, maybe it could make shockeyy mafia instead?? the plot thickens! And I'm not scumreading ShoCkeyy, I'm just poking at him. I don't have much of a read on ShoCkeyy, unfortunately. | ||
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I don't really feel like fighting raynpelikoneet this game, I kinda feel like he's town | ||
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On November 28 2020 10:51 Tictock wrote: Haha, fair enough, Magic can tend to do that.Nice! I recently introduced my roommates to MtG and they have proceeded to spend thousands of dollars on it. Was cool to see the enthusiasm but I sorta created a monster. We are starting to move into EDH so I expect this problem to get worse before it gets better. What formats do you play? I play standard and commander, if you ever want to play a game feel free to PM me! | ||
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