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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
August 10 2020 19:01 GMT
#194
Was playing LoL since there was noone really around. Trfel seems fine from his recent posts don't think I lynching today based on those posts. Shockeyy didn't explain to Vivax what he wanted Vivax to do is very weird...
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
August 10 2020 21:46 GMT
#221
On August 11 2020 04:52 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2020 04:23 Vivax wrote:
On August 11 2020 04:21 Trfel wrote:
Terrible Takes by Trfel

Town Lean
LightningStrike + Show Spoiler +
Mostly a gut read, but two more reasons. First, he's made the most posts in the thread so far, which (much) more often than not makes someone town, especially in a low-activity game like this. And second, his worry about the lack of activity in the game feels genuine. It's not a very strong read, but I'd bet on it if I had to.

Mr. Cheesecake + Show Spoiler +
I still feel a bit bugged by how he played earlier in the game, but since then he's been investigating things and more importantly, he's been pushing his reads. In a low-activity game like this, there is less incentive for mafia to push reads. Despite the aforementioned things that I don't like, the rest of his play feels towny and investigative.

HoldenGolden + Show Spoiler +
While LightningStrike has provided the most posts in this game, HoldenGolden has provided the most content in this game. He's been probing and poking everyone and seems to genuinely be trying to figure out the game.


Null
GTacc
Vivax

Mafia Lean
Eywa- + Show Spoiler +
His post on HoldenGolden, sharing his suspicions of him, that later vanished into thin air. It was his most explained and serious read, and seems to have taken a decent amount of effort to read a previous game and compare. And note that later, he even mentions who he wants to lynch but can't (GTacc). If he's still scumreading HoldenGolden, why wouldn't he be in this category? Or if something changed, why not say what changed?

The only thing I can think of that caused this is in the time between these two linked posts, several people posted about either townreading HoldenGolden or not wanting to lynch HoldenGolden. It feels like once there were obstacles put in the way, Eywa- no longer wanted to lynch/cared about lynching HoldenGolden.

Why would town be like this? If anything, town would push even harder for a lynch on his "naked mafia" read. Whereas mafia is much more inclined to drop it and look for a different, easier target.

ShoCkeyy + Show Spoiler +
ShoCkeyy says he doesn't like it when people analyze and look at opening posts too deeply, and implied that he didn't like HoldenGolden looking into early game posts. But then he said he liked how Mr. Cheesecake looked into my opening post and didn't like my opening post.

Inconsistent, but not the strongest.

Fecalfeast + Show Spoiler +
Honestly this is just due to feelings. But here:
On August 10 2020 08:14 Fecalfeast wrote:
Of the three active non-LS people so far this is the order I would rank them from towniest to scummiest
eywa

cheesecake

holden

I can't read LS because I think everything he says is scummy because he doesn't really understand subtext if I remember correctly it has been a while.

Trfel pings towny to me for his early questions but honestly meh otherwise

nobody reads overly scummy to me. The only reason holden is on the bottom of my short list is because their posts seem forced and overly aggressive IMHO. I get they're an offsite player though so who know what they do over there.

vivax we will have to wait and see. I like that he found a non-obvious post to make a read on and one I also liked to boot.
This post doesn't actually say much. He puts Eywa- townier than Mr. Cheesecake and Mr. Cheesecake townier than HoldenGolden, but only relative to each other. It's super non-committal and not very useful. Four times in this short post he says something to the effect of "I could be wrong," "I'm not sure," or "we'll have to wait and see."

Feels very disengaged from the thread. Instead of driving or pushing things, he's just saying what looks good and what looks bad. It doesn't feel like he cares to find mafia, just evaluate what things look like. Nothing insightful. He's not even posting videos or showing interest in the game. Fecalfeast as town is much better than this.


I still need to figure out who I want to vote for most, but I'd definitely like to vote within these three.


They are nice takes.


Trfel obviously didn't read more into it because I actually called myself out on that very exact thing he's saying I'm mafia for.

You only called yourself mafia for being inactive though and he calling you mafia for inconsistencies that isn't activity relative?
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
August 10 2020 21:47 GMT
#222
Anyways I am back from playing league again since my clanmates invited me to play:
On August 11 2020 04:21 Trfel wrote:
Terrible Takes by Trfel

Town Lean
LightningStrike + Show Spoiler +
Mostly a gut read, but two more reasons. First, he's made the most posts in the thread so far, which (much) more often than not makes someone town, especially in a low-activity game like this. And second, his worry about the lack of activity in the game feels genuine. It's not a very strong read, but I'd bet on it if I had to.

Mr. Cheesecake + Show Spoiler +
I still feel a bit bugged by how he played earlier in the game, but since then he's been investigating things and more importantly, he's been pushing his reads. In a low-activity game like this, there is less incentive for mafia to push reads. Despite the aforementioned things that I don't like, the rest of his play feels towny and investigative.

HoldenGolden + Show Spoiler +
While LightningStrike has provided the most posts in this game, HoldenGolden has provided the most content in this game. He's been probing and poking everyone and seems to genuinely be trying to figure out the game.


Null
GTacc
Vivax

Mafia Lean
Eywa- + Show Spoiler +
His post on HoldenGolden, sharing his suspicions of him, that later vanished into thin air. It was his most explained and serious read, and seems to have taken a decent amount of effort to read a previous game and compare. And note that later, he even mentions who he wants to lynch but can't (GTacc). If he's still scumreading HoldenGolden, why wouldn't he be in this category? Or if something changed, why not say what changed?

The only thing I can think of that caused this is in the time between these two linked posts, several people posted about either townreading HoldenGolden or not wanting to lynch HoldenGolden. It feels like once there were obstacles put in the way, Eywa- no longer wanted to lynch/cared about lynching HoldenGolden.

Why would town be like this? If anything, town would push even harder for a lynch on his "naked mafia" read. Whereas mafia is much more inclined to drop it and look for a different, easier target.

ShoCkeyy + Show Spoiler +
ShoCkeyy says he doesn't like it when people analyze and look at opening posts too deeply, and implied that he didn't like HoldenGolden looking into early game posts. But then he said he liked how Mr. Cheesecake looked into my opening post and didn't like my opening post.

Inconsistent, but not the strongest.

Fecalfeast + Show Spoiler +
Honestly this is just due to feelings. But here:
On August 10 2020 08:14 Fecalfeast wrote:
Of the three active non-LS people so far this is the order I would rank them from towniest to scummiest
eywa

cheesecake

holden

I can't read LS because I think everything he says is scummy because he doesn't really understand subtext if I remember correctly it has been a while.

Trfel pings towny to me for his early questions but honestly meh otherwise

nobody reads overly scummy to me. The only reason holden is on the bottom of my short list is because their posts seem forced and overly aggressive IMHO. I get they're an offsite player though so who know what they do over there.

vivax we will have to wait and see. I like that he found a non-obvious post to make a read on and one I also liked to boot.
This post doesn't actually say much. He puts Eywa- townier than Mr. Cheesecake and Mr. Cheesecake townier than HoldenGolden, but only relative to each other. It's super non-committal and not very useful. Four times in this short post he says something to the effect of "I could be wrong," "I'm not sure," or "we'll have to wait and see."

Feels very disengaged from the thread. Instead of driving or pushing things, he's just saying what looks good and what looks bad. It doesn't feel like he cares to find mafia, just evaluate what things look like. Nothing insightful. He's not even posting videos or showing interest in the game. Fecalfeast as town is much better than this.


I still need to figure out who I want to vote for most, but I'd definitely like to vote within these three.

Not a terrible list you got idk why you called it terrible.
On August 11 2020 04:47 Fecalfeast wrote:
I'm town 😎

Why you haven't done any real questioning then?
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
August 10 2020 22:09 GMT
#229
On August 11 2020 07:01 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2020 06:46 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 11 2020 04:52 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On August 11 2020 04:23 Vivax wrote:
On August 11 2020 04:21 Trfel wrote:
Terrible Takes by Trfel

Town Lean
LightningStrike + Show Spoiler +
Mostly a gut read, but two more reasons. First, he's made the most posts in the thread so far, which (much) more often than not makes someone town, especially in a low-activity game like this. And second, his worry about the lack of activity in the game feels genuine. It's not a very strong read, but I'd bet on it if I had to.

Mr. Cheesecake + Show Spoiler +
I still feel a bit bugged by how he played earlier in the game, but since then he's been investigating things and more importantly, he's been pushing his reads. In a low-activity game like this, there is less incentive for mafia to push reads. Despite the aforementioned things that I don't like, the rest of his play feels towny and investigative.

HoldenGolden + Show Spoiler +
While LightningStrike has provided the most posts in this game, HoldenGolden has provided the most content in this game. He's been probing and poking everyone and seems to genuinely be trying to figure out the game.


Null
GTacc
Vivax

Mafia Lean
Eywa- + Show Spoiler +
His post on HoldenGolden, sharing his suspicions of him, that later vanished into thin air. It was his most explained and serious read, and seems to have taken a decent amount of effort to read a previous game and compare. And note that later, he even mentions who he wants to lynch but can't (GTacc). If he's still scumreading HoldenGolden, why wouldn't he be in this category? Or if something changed, why not say what changed?

The only thing I can think of that caused this is in the time between these two linked posts, several people posted about either townreading HoldenGolden or not wanting to lynch HoldenGolden. It feels like once there were obstacles put in the way, Eywa- no longer wanted to lynch/cared about lynching HoldenGolden.

Why would town be like this? If anything, town would push even harder for a lynch on his "naked mafia" read. Whereas mafia is much more inclined to drop it and look for a different, easier target.

ShoCkeyy + Show Spoiler +
ShoCkeyy says he doesn't like it when people analyze and look at opening posts too deeply, and implied that he didn't like HoldenGolden looking into early game posts. But then he said he liked how Mr. Cheesecake looked into my opening post and didn't like my opening post.

Inconsistent, but not the strongest.

Fecalfeast + Show Spoiler +
Honestly this is just due to feelings. But here:
On August 10 2020 08:14 Fecalfeast wrote:
Of the three active non-LS people so far this is the order I would rank them from towniest to scummiest
eywa

cheesecake

holden

I can't read LS because I think everything he says is scummy because he doesn't really understand subtext if I remember correctly it has been a while.

Trfel pings towny to me for his early questions but honestly meh otherwise

nobody reads overly scummy to me. The only reason holden is on the bottom of my short list is because their posts seem forced and overly aggressive IMHO. I get they're an offsite player though so who know what they do over there.

vivax we will have to wait and see. I like that he found a non-obvious post to make a read on and one I also liked to boot.
This post doesn't actually say much. He puts Eywa- townier than Mr. Cheesecake and Mr. Cheesecake townier than HoldenGolden, but only relative to each other. It's super non-committal and not very useful. Four times in this short post he says something to the effect of "I could be wrong," "I'm not sure," or "we'll have to wait and see."

Feels very disengaged from the thread. Instead of driving or pushing things, he's just saying what looks good and what looks bad. It doesn't feel like he cares to find mafia, just evaluate what things look like. Nothing insightful. He's not even posting videos or showing interest in the game. Fecalfeast as town is much better than this.


I still need to figure out who I want to vote for most, but I'd definitely like to vote within these three.


They are nice takes.


Trfel obviously didn't read more into it because I actually called myself out on that very exact thing he's saying I'm mafia for.

You only called yourself mafia for being inactive though and he calling you mafia for inconsistencies that isn't activity relative?


I literally wrote that I don't like D1 reading into posts, but since this is a different style of game, I'm forced to.

This was the post I was referring to:
On August 10 2020 12:52 ShoCkeyy wrote:
If we go based off what I said, then I’m inactive lol. But Vivax is the most inactive so far. I don’t mind just pressuring him.

I’m catching up on everyone else.

Unless I was mistaken I pretty sure you called yourself mafia for being inactive.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
August 10 2020 22:10 GMT
#230
On August 11 2020 06:58 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2020 06:06 Eywa- wrote:
On August 11 2020 05:45 Vivax wrote:
Have you found a way of explaining why you're voting for me eywa?

This is a weird angle for town!vivax to take towards his top scum read 4hrs pre-eod... I mean, we need a decisive vote, I would like for it to be on vivax, but I will switch to ShoCkey if you guys insist.


I haven't even called you mafia, and even less my top scumread. Don't know what game you're reading.

Can confirm you didn't even call him mafia you only said nice takes to trfel so I assuming he thinks you called him mafia from that?
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
August 10 2020 23:01 GMT
#235
On August 11 2020 07:44 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2020 07:09 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 11 2020 07:01 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On August 11 2020 06:46 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 11 2020 04:52 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On August 11 2020 04:23 Vivax wrote:
On August 11 2020 04:21 Trfel wrote:
Terrible Takes by Trfel

Town Lean
LightningStrike + Show Spoiler +
Mostly a gut read, but two more reasons. First, he's made the most posts in the thread so far, which (much) more often than not makes someone town, especially in a low-activity game like this. And second, his worry about the lack of activity in the game feels genuine. It's not a very strong read, but I'd bet on it if I had to.

Mr. Cheesecake + Show Spoiler +
I still feel a bit bugged by how he played earlier in the game, but since then he's been investigating things and more importantly, he's been pushing his reads. In a low-activity game like this, there is less incentive for mafia to push reads. Despite the aforementioned things that I don't like, the rest of his play feels towny and investigative.

HoldenGolden + Show Spoiler +
While LightningStrike has provided the most posts in this game, HoldenGolden has provided the most content in this game. He's been probing and poking everyone and seems to genuinely be trying to figure out the game.


Null
GTacc
Vivax

Mafia Lean
Eywa- + Show Spoiler +
His post on HoldenGolden, sharing his suspicions of him, that later vanished into thin air. It was his most explained and serious read, and seems to have taken a decent amount of effort to read a previous game and compare. And note that later, he even mentions who he wants to lynch but can't (GTacc). If he's still scumreading HoldenGolden, why wouldn't he be in this category? Or if something changed, why not say what changed?

The only thing I can think of that caused this is in the time between these two linked posts, several people posted about either townreading HoldenGolden or not wanting to lynch HoldenGolden. It feels like once there were obstacles put in the way, Eywa- no longer wanted to lynch/cared about lynching HoldenGolden.

Why would town be like this? If anything, town would push even harder for a lynch on his "naked mafia" read. Whereas mafia is much more inclined to drop it and look for a different, easier target.

ShoCkeyy + Show Spoiler +
ShoCkeyy says he doesn't like it when people analyze and look at opening posts too deeply, and implied that he didn't like HoldenGolden looking into early game posts. But then he said he liked how Mr. Cheesecake looked into my opening post and didn't like my opening post.

Inconsistent, but not the strongest.

Fecalfeast + Show Spoiler +
Honestly this is just due to feelings. But here:
On August 10 2020 08:14 Fecalfeast wrote:
Of the three active non-LS people so far this is the order I would rank them from towniest to scummiest
eywa

cheesecake

holden

I can't read LS because I think everything he says is scummy because he doesn't really understand subtext if I remember correctly it has been a while.

Trfel pings towny to me for his early questions but honestly meh otherwise

nobody reads overly scummy to me. The only reason holden is on the bottom of my short list is because their posts seem forced and overly aggressive IMHO. I get they're an offsite player though so who know what they do over there.

vivax we will have to wait and see. I like that he found a non-obvious post to make a read on and one I also liked to boot.
This post doesn't actually say much. He puts Eywa- townier than Mr. Cheesecake and Mr. Cheesecake townier than HoldenGolden, but only relative to each other. It's super non-committal and not very useful. Four times in this short post he says something to the effect of "I could be wrong," "I'm not sure," or "we'll have to wait and see."

Feels very disengaged from the thread. Instead of driving or pushing things, he's just saying what looks good and what looks bad. It doesn't feel like he cares to find mafia, just evaluate what things look like. Nothing insightful. He's not even posting videos or showing interest in the game. Fecalfeast as town is much better than this.


I still need to figure out who I want to vote for most, but I'd definitely like to vote within these three.


They are nice takes.


Trfel obviously didn't read more into it because I actually called myself out on that very exact thing he's saying I'm mafia for.

You only called yourself mafia for being inactive though and he calling you mafia for inconsistencies that isn't activity relative?


I literally wrote that I don't like D1 reading into posts, but since this is a different style of game, I'm forced to.

This was the post I was referring to:
On August 10 2020 12:52 ShoCkeyy wrote:
If we go based off what I said, then I’m inactive lol. But Vivax is the most inactive so far. I don’t mind just pressuring him.

I’m catching up on everyone else.

Unless I was mistaken I pretty sure you called yourself mafia for being inactive.


You’re putting words into my posts.. that’s not at all what I said or wrote. You pull this shit on me, but let Trfel slide, are you scum buddies with Vivax? That’s the only reason I can see you trying to fabricate this whole “I called myself mafia” spiel.

Oh you didn't actually I thought you did and no I am not mafia at all just being stupid....
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
August 10 2020 23:54 GMT
#247
On August 11 2020 08:32 Fecalfeast wrote:
LS is reading really scummy to me now he's just poking and talking about real life normally he actually scumhunts while being tonedeaf

##Vote: FecalFeast
Ya that is bullshit I was scum hunting by questioning people and gave my reads when I felt like giving them....
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
August 11 2020 00:27 GMT
#267
Trfel he just mafia don't answer him
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
August 11 2020 00:27 GMT
#268
or rather don't ask him
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
August 11 2020 00:30 GMT
#273
FF is mafia because he lied about me not scum hunting and his first list post not making a real rad on me is just pure mafia motivated. FF if your town I never playing with you ever again.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
August 11 2020 00:33 GMT
#276
Kill FF
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
August 11 2020 00:35 GMT
#279
Kill FF
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
August 11 2020 00:44 GMT
#288
Kill FF it's me or him that have to be lynched
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
August 11 2020 00:47 GMT
#291
On August 11 2020 09:45 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2020 09:44 LightningStrike wrote:
Kill FF it's me or him that have to be lynched
Can I ask, how do you know Fecalfeast isn't just reading you wrong? I thought you even admitted yourself most players have a hard time reading you?

He normally good at reading me and he's being completely utterly wrong. I was scumhunting and yet he claimed I didn't so it's a complete lie which makes him more likely mafia given his list post gave a no-read on me.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
August 11 2020 02:24 GMT
#312
I'll be honest I went to do dishes for my parents since they were coming home pretty soon and I thought they would be home right at EoD or close to EoD. I got to say I didn't expect people to switch to GTacc when he just a coin flip at best. Probably be best if redo reads and stuff tomorrow honestly as I am pretty pissed that noone got lynched............ I tried to push my lynch until I had to do dishes yet noone was biting......
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
August 11 2020 14:47 GMT
#318
Just woke up after my body woke itself up in the middle of the night.
##Unvote
Going to filter dive and give everyone a clean slate and give a read list whenever I get done with filter diving everyone.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
August 12 2020 00:57 GMT
#365
Just got with filter diving I think Hodlen is the best lynch honestly as I felt like he did ask some decent questions but really didn't anything with them at least how I felt.
##Vote: HoldenGolden
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
August 12 2020 00:58 GMT
#372
Nope I literally got done 5 mins ago.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
August 12 2020 01:01 GMT
#383
I will give my full list out in a bit though so everyone knows my reads.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
August 12 2020 16:00 GMT
#411
The promised list post:

Ewya-: I had liked some of his posts as I thought he was thinking critcally but his EoD2 was a bit wild even suggesting a Trfel kill when he didn't say anything about Trfel at that point outside of an early 1st day townread and he couldn't put a finger why he thought Vivax was mafia. Null leaning scum?

GTacc: Didn't play the game really until now I willing to see how he plays and make a decision but his slot is a coinflip atm due to that. Null

Shockeyy seemed genuinely upset with me about what I thought he said but he didn't say at all. Outside of that he hasn't posted much but did suggest to kill GTacc who is only a 50-50 shot at being mafia due to being inactive. Null

Mr. Cheesecake: I liked his filter overall he been trying to get stuff done when he was around even though he wasn't around EoD2 but his unvote and then complaining about the lack of a lynch yesterday when his vote made it a no lynch seems very bad. Scum lean.

Vivax: Tone wise seems to be fine but he was mostly absent but seemed to be picking up his activity a bit. Town lean

HoldenGolden: He made some decent questions but never really follow through some of them (ie asking about the pros and cons of mafia Ewya blue hunting in the thread for example) and had decided to not post in the game after the 10th. Scum

FecalFeast: I didn't like he misrepresented my no scum hunting when I did do scum hunting and he been very wishi washi sort of play so far but he wasn't as bad as I thought reading his filter. Scum lean

Trfel: I was nervous reading him as I had just played a scum game with Trfel but he seemed very interested in the game kept trying to engage the thread with original questioning I doubt this is mafia Trfel playing with me again. Town
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