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Zey
Profile Joined May 2020
Finland64 Posts
June 06 2020 13:53 GMT
#541
rayn wrote:
so where is your vote gonna go?

To Trfel.

Tictock wrote:
Zey, was that post from D1?

If so I skimmed over that bit, but I'm confused why you keep hammering me on this. You seem to just be furthering the argument that Trfel's actions and reads are completely mismatched, and I've been making the same argument.

Yes it was. And I kept hammering because in my mind either I have really missed something (witch I really didn’t thought that would be so likely) or you are wrong and Cake read really just appeared. And if the second one is correct I think it is important because I don’t understand how you have come conclusion that Cake read didn’t appear. I might understand that if you just skimmed something to get more “content” to your post and didn’t bother to really read your top suspects posts when you are making post which you have advertised saying you have lot to say about Trfel. Doesn’t seem really townish to me.

jeekaka wrote:
@Zey can you give me some kind of reads list to show where you are at the game, except in the Trfel/Tictock world.

Okay. I’m probably going to get nervous breakdown or something for trying to write longer text in english but I can try. :D So this is what is going on my mind when I’m thinking about players:

The most scummy

Trfel (First he was just doing something that might seem like chasing scums but not really chasing scums. His explanation for his question to rayn feels like he’s trying make it seem better than it was. His top scumread was Sho which seems to me like picking an easy target. And then there was end of D1 with his townread-Cake becoming scummy in 4 minutes and all the excuses afterwards. And there's weird trust to Vivax. I don’t why he trust him. I mean the reasoning what I founded was basically “Vivax acts like scum-Vivax do but it doesn’t tell anything because I haven’t been so active either”. If Trfel think Vivax is town, then he needs to think that rayns case about Vivax is wrong but he hasn’t really commented that (not the main points).)

Tictock (I don’t like how he was picking easy target. I don’t also follow why he is thinking Vivax is mafia? What I have understand, he thought Vivax is town until he didn’t like how Vivax suspected him, and then he was pretty sure that Vivax is mafia with Trfel. And then there is the thing, where Tictock seems to have only skimmed his top scumreads posts and I don’t get it.)

Vivax (I think rayn has a good case here. But I need to admit that without rayns case I wouldn’t have a clue about Vivax. I don’t know why but Vivaxs post are hardest to me to read. It’s like I have translated words that I don’t understand, I have asked my husband to translate hardest sentences and still don’t understand what he means. So I’ve kinda give up on that and have accepted that I just don’t understand him. I mean I read his post and try to understand it but if I don’t ... I’m not gonna waste my time there anymore. I think it’s more efficient if I read others post and try to fact check their accusations and stuff like that.)

ShoCkeyy (He seems to be that kind of player that it is hard to say which side he is. I have played before with someone like him so the weird stuff what he has done is more likely just his style not about his role. There isn’t anything that I could say he is town thought. So I have tried to keep on my mind the reasons why others think he is town or scum. What I have seen couple of players have suspect him with reasons that I think is only about his style (except for not playing for fun, which doesn’t seem like that to me). Jeekaka is thinking that Sho might be scum but the reasons are more about that Sho fits in many scumteam. Vivax seems to be only one who think Sho is town. The reasoning isn’t so bullet proof but it seems to take consider Shos playstyle. But I can’t really trust Vivax opinion because I think there is good change that he is mafia. So basically if Vivax isn’t scum it will make Sho townier to me. But otherwise I don’t know is he scum or not. But I think Trfel, Tictock and Vivax are more likely to be scums than Sho.)

raynpelikoneet (He hasn’t done anything scummy but not either anything that would make me say this is why rayn can’t be scum. Still I would say he is second towniest here because the feeling what I got D1. D1 I couldn’t follow without asking why rayn did vote Vivax. It might be only my bad english skill but still it makes me think little bit that as scum rayn would be more careful with his post. I mean I would expect scum-rayn to make a clear case and stick with it or make a new clear case. Keep posts like it would be really easy to follow his thoughts.)

jeekaka (I haven’t seen anything that would suggest that she is scum. Seems like she really thinks who might be scum and why, she has observed even little things etc. And there is tinfoil hat. <3)

The most towny

But yeah, I’m gonna vote now ->
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 06 2020 14:38 GMT
#542
I might be a bit late for the deadline today. Day still ends at 5 edt.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22297 Posts
June 06 2020 14:52 GMT
#543
On June 06 2020 02:40 Tictock wrote:
Looking forward to seeing what made Vivax BURST OUT LAUGHING about me saying his post is a forced narrative. I mean guy has been calling me mafia literally since the start of the game, finally puts together a case-post about it, and it's literally all easily fact-checkable to be false. So I'm gunna calls it as I sees it.

@Zey, I wasn't super clear (and I forgot a couple things, which is a lesson to not start drinking early and try to play mafia). When I said "from Trfel's filter the cake read kinda makes sense" what I meant is that his cake read didn't just appear or change when he reappeared. There was a sense that he could have been scum-reading her since early on. I very much agree with you that Trfel N1 made a ton of posts that backtrack and retcon what his reads where D1.

Actually on that topic, I love Jeeka's point about Trfel voting with Sho. Trfel ignoring Sho EoD (when he had earlier said Sho looked scummy) is super suspect imo, but I had failed to notice that in voting for cake he was also voting with his scum read Sho >.<

I am gunna make an effort to be around a bit later tonight, but I am frankly going to be pretty useless this weekend due to roomates Bday I mentioned. I'm using the whole thing as an excuse to build a firepit in the backyeard which has been on my project list for awhile now and am going to be baking birthday and party treats most of the day tomorrow.


I laughed because being like WOW THIS IS SUCH A FORCED NARRATIVE was strongly hyperbole in a sense that it has to come from the slimiest, shadiest mafia scum in your head for someone to just make you go "OH WOW HE'S REACHING SO HARD".

But the rest of the post sort of comes across apologetic. Not like you want to murder yours truly for pushing lies on you.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22297 Posts
June 06 2020 14:57 GMT
#544
That said, there's too many townies on the sidelines atm for me to really find out who wants to find the correct lynch.
Rayn too, if town, is giving it 40% maybe. But really it's a pretty chill game so finding the super motivated people might not be the right approach.

At least I got some reaction out of TT? Doesn't seem to be particularly bothered with how I represented his play after all. I'd feel more comfortable if he went out of that post more convinced I was scum, since he doesn't think I have any point at all judging from his first reaction.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22297 Posts
June 06 2020 15:06 GMT
#545
If I use the metric where scum just does nothing but post so-to-say politically correct posts where they don't ruffle any feathers, I'd probably have my eyes on Rayn + zey.

If I stick to my rayn townread I get to TickTock + zey. But TT really ruffles more feathers than zey. Jeekaka tries to be around and contributive without giving me too much of a feeling that it's from the sidelines.

I think between TT and zey, I'd lynch zey first. Looking through the filter I see the argument showing up a lot for Trfel and TT that they're probably scum for going after the easy target Shockeyy. At the same time she doesn't townread Shockeyy and somehow makes her own read on Shockeyy dependent on how much my read on Shockeyy can be trusted.
Scumreading people for going after presumed lynch bait while not treating the lynch bait as town is kinda..convenient?

So yeah. I think I'd put zey ahead of TT in the lynches if I use complacency as a metric.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
June 06 2020 20:07 GMT
#546
Anyone here?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22297 Posts
June 06 2020 20:09 GMT
#547
[image loading]
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
June 06 2020 20:22 GMT
#548
I think I'm going to switch votes to Zey.

Read Zey's filter and honestly tell me she is town this game. Null at best.

The list post is another example of Zey failing to evaluate this game. Look at how she is suspicious of four-five people in a game with two mafia, yet she's okay with that. She's not engaging to try and figure things out, not really interacting, just answering questions/requests. Also note that her top scumread posted a ton of posts and a ton of new content, and Zey just completely ignored it. Didn't re-evaluate, didn't even mention why it means they are still mafia. Passed over all of their explanations of old questions, too.

Honestly reeks of mafia.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22297 Posts
June 06 2020 20:28 GMT
#549
It's not a bad guess. But tbh a lot of townies got to be playing similarly laid back. Makes it hard to find mafia.
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
June 06 2020 20:37 GMT
#550
I’d play more if more people were active but that’s not the case.
Life?
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
June 06 2020 20:41 GMT
#551
Trfel why should I not vote for you right now?
Life?
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-06-06 21:59:31
June 06 2020 21:00 GMT
#552
Deadline. Shockeyy warned for not voting.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-06-06 21:59:10
June 06 2020 21:01 GMT
#553
Day 2 Final Vote Count


[image loading]


Trfel (3): TicTock, Jeekaka, Zey
Zey (2): Vivax, Trfel
Vivax (1): Raynpelikoneet

Not Voting(1): Shockeyy


Trfel has been lynched.
+ Show Spoiler +
Hamachi (Vanilla Townie) - Made with Yellowtail, you're actually tasty and different from what everyone eats. You're worthwhile. But. You're also still just a fish.
You have voting rights and no other power.



PM night actions to both host (myself) and co-host (Alakaslam).
until Day 3 Start.

a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
June 06 2020 21:01 GMT
#554
Fuck I literally came back a minute too late...
Life?
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
June 06 2020 21:03 GMT
#555
Well with Trfel being VT, tiktok is my next bet.
Life?
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
June 06 2020 21:04 GMT
#556
Sadly I wouldn’t have been able to save Trfel anyways if I voted for some one else... I went to eat and lost track of time...
Life?
jeekaka
Profile Joined May 2020
Finland111 Posts
June 06 2020 22:59 GMT
#557
Fuck me I just still want to lynch Vivax because that town hero thing bothers me now even more.

Although that rayns "I wish I wash scum with Zey" starts to haunt me too.

+ feels Batman
jeekaka
Profile Joined May 2020
Finland111 Posts
June 06 2020 23:10 GMT
#558
Worst part is I cannot even rule out Vivax/rayn team here XD
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22297 Posts
June 06 2020 23:28 GMT
#559
On June 07 2020 07:59 jeekaka wrote:
Fuck me I just still want to lynch Vivax because that town hero thing bothers me now even more.

Although that rayns "I wish I wash scum with Zey" starts to haunt me too.

+ feels Batman


They're two completely different things ?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22297 Posts
June 06 2020 23:45 GMT
#560
Though if rayn is scum yours just now could have been TMI.
Maybe in hindsight.
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