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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
June 07 2020 00:11 GMT
#561
On June 06 2020 15:51 Trfel wrote:
I dunno Tictock, I'm having trouble getting much useful information from the posts you spoilered. Sorry

But seriously, I don't know why people really think I am mafia here. I can understand not thinking I am town, but I don't understand why everyone is so convinced I am mafia.

Yes, my activity was quite poor earlier. However, I've changed that now. I'm here, I'm present, I'm playing, I'm contributing quality thoughts. That's more than you can say for many of the players in this game.

So what if I find different things interesting than other people? Isn't that the beauty of the game, that different things stick out to different players? What a boring game it would be otherwise. How does that make me mafia?

Yes, my reads can change quickly. If you want meta, that's been a major mark of my town play the past few years (and unfortunately, is one of the main reasons why my lynch % has increased significantly), because I don't spend the time to review every little thing like I used to, so new information/new perspectives readily changes my reads. Fluid reads is generally considered a towny trait, as mafia have trouble changing their reads quickly. Especially when justified.

The one suspicious thing I've done is being wrong on CopCake. Granted, that was quite poor, and for that I (once again) apologize to all. But understand that I was in a rush to try and find something, as voting is mandatory in this game. Look at my play here, trying to analyze all of the possibilities and figure out the best lynch. This is how I play when I have more time and can analyze things more effectively. But in a five minute window or so, I'm not really sure what you expect from me.

I am really hesitant to say this, because saying this was a huge part of why I got lynched last game, but I'm probably not going to be around much tomorrow Which basically paints a huge target on my back saying "here mafia, come and lynch me." But it's unavoidable, I am busy with my family. Which is a lot of why I am spending so much time tonight trying to figure out the best lynch, because I can't tomorrow.

So there. Do whatever you want. But I think I've played a very reasonable game, I think I've put forth a decent scum pool and as time permits I'll keep working to find the mafia. I encourage everyone to re-evaluate and take a look at what I've posted. I encourage those scumreading Vivax to take another look. I am confident that mafia is riding all of the easy Trfel/Vivax scumreads and not justifying them well, just following thread sentiment (because they aren't well-justified reads). If you lynch me, that's on you.


So Trfel does a last minute switch to Zey but honestly, this was the most useful post of Trfel before he got voted off. I'm on the possible TicTock/? team. Zey and Jee keep voting together which is understandable if they've played together before. They rather piggy back off each other especially with one being AFK most of the time.

D1 Vote:
CopCake (4): Vivax, ShoCkeyy, Trfel, Jockmcplop
Vivax (3): raynpelikoneet, CopCake, TicTock
Trfel (2): Zey, Jeekaka

So if I look here, there's a definite three town on the copcake kill. Vivax to me actually feels very towny here, since town could of easily mislynched here and mafia didn't even want to touch with a twelve foot pool. Rayn sticks to Vivax D1 builds a "rapport" about Vivax to try and continue into D3 lynch.

Now D2 Vote:
Trfel (3): TicTock, Jeekaka, Zey
Zey (2): Vivax, Trfel
Vivax (1): Raynpelikoneet

I see the need for tictock as mafia to vote for Trfel. They need to kill off Trfel and Jee and Zey were easily going to follow since they voted for Trfel anyways in the previous vote. Rayn wasn't going to move because he didn't even want to save Trfel.

It's honestly believable that Tictock and Rayn are the scumteam.
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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22424 Posts
June 07 2020 01:03 GMT
#562
Rayn yes should probably be discussed. More or less depending on the NK.

TT I give a chance of being town tbh. But more likely my D1 PoE was gosu
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
June 07 2020 01:31 GMT
#563
Idk man, it's hard to say TT is town, his pattern of voting, looks like him and Rayn tried to vote you out early ass hell cause they rather not deal with you in the late game. I seriously think you're likely to get shot tonight or one of the zey/jee persons.

I'm probably not going to get shot just cause I think mafia is going to try and lynch me for the last day.
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jeekaka
Profile Joined May 2020
Finland111 Posts
June 07 2020 05:14 GMT
#564
On June 07 2020 08:28 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2020 07:59 jeekaka wrote:
Fuck me I just still want to lynch Vivax because that town hero thing bothers me now even more.

Although that rayns "I wish I wash scum with Zey" starts to haunt me too.

+ feels Batman


They're two completely different things ?


Yeah they are lol I'm kinda lost and I honestly don't know what to think rn :D

I had thought about rayn/Zey before you mentioned it, and thought about more when you did, I just didn't have any reason to scumread either of them at that point. Aaaand I had a feeling that if Zey had Finnish speaking teammate her game might look different. But that's a thing you shouldn't maybe put too much weight on.

(I actually thought about rayn/Tictock even but then I was like ok let the better team win lol XD)

Your D1-D2 were still scummy af. You and Shock have still decent changes of winning with nice Tictock or Zey mislynch set up. Even you and Zey could just go for Tic lynch now.

But honestly I see it more likely that scum!rayn would just vote and go afk when everything is going according to his plans than town!rayn just leaving the came like that.

So yeah, I think you and rayn are the most scummiest here right now :D And you could even be scum together because I cannot reason it like well why would anyone ever vote his scum buddy since D1 because thats the thing I do and then scum!rayn wins lol :D

ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
June 07 2020 05:20 GMT
#565
Do you have any better reasons to vote vivax jee?
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jeekaka
Profile Joined May 2020
Finland111 Posts
June 07 2020 05:30 GMT
#566
On June 07 2020 14:20 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Do you have any better reasons to vote vivax jee?


I'm still re-evaluating the game.

Though I'm having a groundhog night here wondering why I didn't switch to Vivax XD But if you are Vivax's scum mate that would not have been enough anyways. But to be honest Vivax flip either way I don't know if Trfel could have convinced me of his towniness
jeekaka
Profile Joined May 2020
Finland111 Posts
June 07 2020 05:30 GMT
#567
: P
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
June 07 2020 07:47 GMT
#568
I’m not mafia I already told you. Please just reconsider. You already were wrong on Trfel and so was I.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
June 07 2020 07:48 GMT
#569
Like I’m actively hunting for scum, and I feel like I’m the only one based on how active I’ve been trying to be, and reevaluating my reads based on new knowledge.
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jeekaka
Profile Joined May 2020
Finland111 Posts
June 07 2020 08:07 GMT
#570
Would you tell me if you were mafia? :D
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
June 07 2020 08:15 GMT
#571
Yea sure, why not? I’m not scared, you should play when I’m actually mafia so you can see how my mafia is god send.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
June 07 2020 08:17 GMT
#572
I think I’m a terrible town player, so that’s that.
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jeekaka
Profile Joined May 2020
Finland111 Posts
June 07 2020 08:17 GMT
#573
Ok, I take this as a promise that if that ever happens you'll tell me you are scum!
jeekaka
Profile Joined May 2020
Finland111 Posts
June 07 2020 08:29 GMT
#574
Only thing I can think of why rayn/Vivax is unlikely is that if Vivax lynch had actually happened D1 rayn surviving night after night would soon start looking really weird : P But then, had Vivax flipped red D1 there were always Tick and Cake to kill at night. And Jock. And maybe even me.

Like I should really had considered more why N1 kill was not me or rayn :D But Jock happening to be doc distracted me from it so I just thought it was because mafia was avoiding protection.



jeekaka
Profile Joined May 2020
Finland111 Posts
June 07 2020 08:38 GMT
#575
But even though Jocks vote switch to Cake was good conspiracy theory material he was also basically townread by all D1 so maybe I'm just having too much tinfoil here.
jeekaka
Profile Joined May 2020
Finland111 Posts
June 07 2020 08:49 GMT
#576
On June 04 2020 02:37 Vivax wrote:
Fuck you rayn


On June 04 2020 23:27 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2020 23:25 jeekaka wrote:
Hmmm, I guess scum!Vivax would not have been so upset if scum!Jock was in his wagon for some wolf theatre.


Obviously you've never been scum with vivax



Just leaving this here XD

Btw I don't really know how serious I'm with this case.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 07 2020 11:03 GMT
#577
Fffffffff, dam I was really hoping Vivax flipping red was gonna end the gane.

I am thinking Zey is most likely to be scum rn. I really feel like his posting about my read onTrfel (the series of posts I asked him about) was pushing me as scum with the knowledge that Yrfel was gonna flip green

I am pretty drunk atm though so we will see what I think tomorrow.

Oh I had some reason to think Sho and Zey were not likely to bescum mates but I will dig that up later.

We are in lyli now right NK puts us down to 4vs2 ?

Wish I had had time today, I actually woulda been down to lunch Zey.

If rayn is still alive tommorow we need to really look at him. He could honestly fit in almost any scuntean but rayn/vivax,
I can take that responsibility.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 07 2020 11:09 GMT
#578
What has happened that every time Vivax doesn't flip after all you change your top scum to something that it wasn't before?
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 07 2020 11:11 GMT
#579
On June 07 2020 20:03 Tictock wrote:
Fffffffff, dam I was really hoping Vivax flipping red was gonna end the gane.

I mean what the hell is this even??? Yo uwerent even voiting for Vivax??
table for two on a tv tray
jeekaka
Profile Joined May 2020
Finland111 Posts
June 07 2020 11:18 GMT
#580
On June 07 2020 20:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What has happened that every time Vivax doesn't flip after all you change your top scum to something that it wasn't before?


Well since before you left the thread it had been quite obvious it was gonna be Trfel flip.
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