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On June 29 2019 01:41 Alakaslam wrote: Show nested quote + On June 28 2019 15:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: ![]() the guy looks just like Jaw K'mik-plop. Ever's ince laughing in the background. Seems like a nice mafia game. This is hilarious even outside the context which enriches it If I wasn’t going overseas in a week I’d join. But I have Well Kind of learned I've the black of night hair but yeh, Basically me! | ||
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On June 29 2019 12:14 Blazinghand wrote: Show nested quote + On June 29 2019 10:45 Fecalfeast wrote: On June 28 2019 16:00 Blazinghand wrote: /cohosgt ok but you have to do a votecount this time it sounds like you had things under control with the massive number of high-vote wagons and tons of vote activity last time , as well as the prodigious night actions, so sure, i'll do a VC this time and take some of the load off You have people like me! Who as town will spam up thread with every single idea! Isn't FF just lovely for dealing with me ![]() | ||
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On June 29 2019 15:43 Alakaslam wrote: But I have less time than that. I leave for the Philippines on the 2nd. I don’t return from Philippines/Koreas until the 17th I'd tell you to say hi to my family if your close, they get real creeped out though. | ||
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On July 01 2019 10:45 Fecalfeast wrote: is the deadline ok for everyone? It's not ideal for me anymore tbh but i can make it work Works enough for me! If you feel generous push it back 1 more hour. Or if you push it 8-12 hours is ok too. I just hate getting up during the day when I have to work the following night. | ||
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On July 01 2019 15:43 Eversince wrote: /confirm. My hotspot goes back Friday. If my activity dumpsters there, sorry. I can't control it. I will deal with it. Don't think I will need to replace but I might be in a better interest for you to ask ahead of time! Wow! Life habits, never modify post! sorry for double post to correct myself. | ||
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On July 01 2019 15:50 raynpelikoneet wrote: I will help you and lynch you on wednesday ![]() Aww thanks friend! I knew I can always count on you! ~hugs ![]() | ||
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On July 01 2019 15:05 Fecalfeast wrote: I'm starting it next deadline then confirm if you want but if you signed up for round 2 and don't check i'll be pissed On July 01 2019 16:33 Jockmcplop wrote: Wait have people started getting PMs to confirm? I haven't had one I don't think he sent out confirm PMs, but that clear statement when he plans to start the game. So people should just confirm. | ||
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On July 02 2019 02:10 Grackaroni wrote: You lied! That's ok cuz now I'm first. 100% lynch with fire! Ok serious now, I'm going to annoy all of you until I drop. I'm not SUPPOSE to work tonight though. So I can continue to bugger you all into to playing! | ||
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On July 02 2019 02:38 Pandain wrote: I'm mafia AMA I gets to tunnel you all game again!! Let us not repeat that. | ||
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No really I think it's probably just Pand being silly. | ||
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On July 02 2019 03:11 Trfel wrote: Show nested quote + Never mind I'm confusing you with someone else. Carry on On July 02 2019 03:07 Trfel wrote: On July 02 2019 02:38 Pandain wrote: Weren't you one of the people who got mad at me and scumread me for doing the same thing a few games ago?I'm mafia AMA ![]() I think Eversince is town, discuss? Why do you think I'm town? | ||
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Who else is about? I'm bored and can't sleep! | ||
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This is off topic so forgive me.. They are not hard to bake. PM me if you want recipe guides. | ||
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On July 02 2019 03:42 Pandain wrote: Show nested quote + On July 02 2019 03:38 Trfel wrote: On July 02 2019 03:35 Pandain wrote: Can I ask why you don't agree with my read on Eversince?I have no thoughts on Eversince but I am giving Trfel an extremely strong townread. I think it's unlikely for mafia to give a strong townread so early in the game (literally the first page) I just think it's extremely early to give a townread based on meta/carefree posting. Anyone can fake meta for a page. (before anyone notes a contradiction, please note I'm not reading Trfel for meta but rather for something specific he did) You giving him t!Truffle but null reading me when his only post is t!ES is what I'm having a hard time with in that scenario. Why is it ok to put him as strong townread, have me as no idea? | ||
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On July 02 2019 03:46 Eversince wrote: Show nested quote + On July 02 2019 03:42 Pandain wrote: On July 02 2019 03:38 Trfel wrote: On July 02 2019 03:35 Pandain wrote: Can I ask why you don't agree with my read on Eversince?I have no thoughts on Eversince but I am giving Trfel an extremely strong townread. I think it's unlikely for mafia to give a strong townread so early in the game (literally the first page) I just think it's extremely early to give a townread based on meta/carefree posting. Anyone can fake meta for a page. (before anyone notes a contradiction, please note I'm not reading Trfel for meta but rather for something specific he did) You giving him t!Truffle but null reading me when his only post is t!ES is what I'm having a hard time with in that scenario. Why is it ok to put him as strong townread, have me as no idea? I still want this answered! | ||
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Pandain giving Truffles a townread and saying I didn't do anything is just trash! But at least he asnwer me. Conversion is fine for doubting it. He's not dirving an agenda but just doesn't believe, that's ok I think. Truffles is so town it hurts! Why are you guys skeptical on him? I'll be here! who wants to talk? | ||
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On July 02 2019 11:43 raynpelikoneet wrote: The issue is that if you're town and he knows your alignment and decided to make that read why wouldn't he have those conclusions? They are pretty much "facts" based on earlier games but imo they dont actually mean anything and as i said i am not completely certain if Trfel would think so either. Just because someone has conclusions and explains how they came to those conclusions doesn't mean they are town. Ok. But how he got them made sense to me. My mafia/town play is very different. I have a very hard time to play as mafia. Coming to the conclusion I am town because I'm in thread, engaging with people, and trying to get things moving at the start of day is ok I think. He's not pushing anything because of his read on me so where is he trying to take it if he's m!Truffles right now? | ||
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On July 02 2019 11:51 Trfel wrote: Show nested quote + Sorry, the red part is poorly worded, let me try again:On July 02 2019 10:41 raynpelikoneet wrote: I will quote the relevant parts. On July 02 2019 10:37 Trfel wrote: Last game I noticed a difference in Eversince's play to her last mafia game, but I wasn't sure if the difference was caused by a change in alignment or the passage of time, so I didn't think much of it. Then it became clear she was town, leading me to believe that the change in alignment is the primary reason for the posting style difference mentioned previously. That's what i am getting at. I am not sure if i believe you can, or rather would make the red assumption given the green part, especially since you didn't make it at the start of last game. Last game I noticed a difference in Eversince's play to her last mafia game, but I wasn't sure if the difference was caused by a change in alignment or the passage of time, so I didn't think much of it. After the game I figured that her alignment (being town instead of mafia) was likely the biggest reason behind the posting style change, for the aforementioned reasons of why it's harder to replicate the carefree, involved, personal posting style as mafia. I know I've struggled with it and I'm not the only one who has. I think the problem people have is that game is ancient and of course I've grown up and playstyle will change. No one is liking you making the meta read. I think your point is fine. t!ES played exactly the same as last game. This looks nothing like her m!ES game, so I'll townread her. | ||
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Conversion entrance seemed bleh. But I see what he was saying now. Using 4 year meta read is kind of bad. But sadly, I don't play as much anymore. Conv pointing it out, giving a decent reason for it, not commenting on the rest of game.. That seems questionable to me. There wasn't much content (still not) but I'll decide on that when I see how he actually plays! | ||
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I don't want to spend all of day 1 tunneled on Pandain though. What are your thoughts? | ||
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Rayn finding it weird Truffles would read me t!ES is fine for prior reasons. I think they are wrong though. | ||
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Grack's just a special one. He's got a funny personal attitude. I'm not wanting to lynch him today. He'll pick up and engage like he did last game or then we can lynch. But he's not trying to move us anywhere. Which is trash town play. But m!Grack wants to lead town to do stupid things. | ||
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On July 02 2019 14:57 Pandain wrote: I'm voting ES. Her posts seem kind of fake and I don't know how she can seriously believe she "deserves" a town read this early in the take when absolutely nothing has happened. You can vote me I don't care! I 'seriously' believe that you gave Truffles a town read for doing the exact same thing I was trying to do. But I'm null. (I don't care if you want to read me mafia, but don't use reasons you yourself used to town somebody)! I don't mean I deserve anything. I'm just pushing at walls trying to get thread moving,engage with people and bounce ideas. The fact you think that's questionable is serious concerning. Let's talk though Pand I don't want to waste half this game tunneled on you if you are town. | ||
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On July 02 2019 15:35 raynpelikoneet wrote: Show nested quote + On July 02 2019 13:44 Eversince wrote: But m!Grack wants to lead town to do stupid things. Can you give some examples of this that happened lately? Actually no. I was reference a point that anyone mafia in that position would do that. I could go filter Gracks past games but that seems real petty! | ||
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On July 02 2019 15:38 Pandain wrote: Show nested quote + On July 02 2019 15:34 Eversince wrote: Ok, but giving townread to Truffles for engaging and dropping me is like bleh. This is not why I'm giving a townread to Trfels. I'm giving a townread because I didn't think it was likely for a mafia to make a strong town read so early in the game. Not for anything to do with engagement or activity. Oh wait! I think I get this now. You don't think m!Truffles try to buddy me so early for no reason? I'm active, but that doesn't mean much, I'm doing my usual self, so m!Truffles never just throws himself off a radio tower here? Null on me because of previous? | ||
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While your here have thoughts on everyone else? How about my Conv point? | ||
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On July 02 2019 16:04 raynpelikoneet wrote: Show nested quote + On July 02 2019 15:39 Eversince wrote: On July 02 2019 15:35 raynpelikoneet wrote: On July 02 2019 13:44 Eversince wrote: But m!Grack wants to lead town to do stupid things. Can you give some examples of this that happened lately? Actually no. I was reference a point that anyone mafia in that position would do that. I could go filter Gracks past games but that seems real petty! If you did filter them you'd find that last game grack bussed his teammate to death d1 and another one on n2. Which is why i was wondering where you got that sentiment. I dont really understand whhat yourw saying here and how that relates to whatever grack has or hasnt done this game? I'm going off memory (not reliable). Any mafia would want to try to change thread sentiment. Grack did nothing.. Even on your example.. if he bussed his whole team he still did something. Was my point. t!Grack doesn't care m!Grack does something (if that's true he just killed his whole team)! What game is it though? I'll filter him to try to see. | ||
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On July 02 2019 16:30 Jockmcplop wrote: Show nested quote + On July 02 2019 16:28 Eversince wrote: I need to figure who to vote for. I'd be fine with Conv for reasons I already said. Grack would be ok but rather not, if he's town he'll start playing. Or we just lynch into lurkers. Which is also trash. Lynching lurkers isn't always trash. I personally don't see the rush to figure out a vote right now. I guess we all play differently but I'd rather wait until near the deadline to gather as much as possible first. Usually I do too. Which might happen again but I'll need to go back to sleep sometime tonight. I don't want to wake up tomorrow with 10-15 extra pages to try to read with 15 minutes, decide and make a vote. I'd rather talk while people are about. | ||
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On July 02 2019 16:31 Trfel wrote: Show nested quote + Of course. I do really believe in tonereads of this type. Her post about being willing to lynch Grackaroni already (!) makes me doubt slightly though, feels a bit opportunistic/eager, but I think the tone read is much stronger.On July 02 2019 16:28 Jockmcplop wrote: On July 02 2019 16:26 Trfel wrote: On July 02 2019 16:20 Holyflare wrote: No, I don't.On July 02 2019 10:37 Trfel wrote: On July 02 2019 10:02 raynpelikoneet wrote: I'm not sure if I fully understand what you are getting at but I'll try...That's something i can possibly understand. My problem is pretty much the wording because as someone already said the mafia game is old and i don't think there is any reason why ES as mafia couldn't start like last game today. Like i mean the wording since for you also -- as you said, last game you wanted to see if she could play like that as mafia. Why is it not the case now? Idk if my explanation is clear enoguh. Last game I noticed a difference in Eversince's play to her last mafia game, but I wasn't sure if the difference was caused by a change in alignment or the passage of time, so I didn't think much of it. Then it became clear she was town, leading me to believe that the change in alignment is the primary reason for the posting style difference mentioned previously. Yes, this is an assumption, but I think it's an okay assumption because other reasons also support the townread. In this game, Eversince's play is like her town game last game and different from her mafia game. And moreso, the difference is in a way that is harder to replicate as mafia. I know for me and many others, posting as mafia is difficult, and as a result the posts feel rigid, forced, and dry. Posts tend to be a little longer, more focused and less carefree and spontaneous. This contrast is how I was able to townread Tumblewood early on in a previous game and that townread nearly managed to win the game. Do you feel like this applies to you this game trfel? @Jockmcplop, my townread on Eversince achieved exactly what it was supposed to. Do you still townread ES? Willing but not preferred! I said here that it would be more a policy lynch. | ||
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On July 02 2019 16:28 Eversince wrote: I need to figure who to vote for. I'd be fine with Conv for reasons I already said. Grack would be ok but rather not, if he's town he'll start playing. Or we just lynch into lurkers. Which is also trash. Just reference for people! | ||
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On July 02 2019 16:54 raynpelikoneet wrote: I see. I am going to try getting into convo with him but thats not going to happen until i am home from work. I will also reassess grack and idk if eversince answered me but i want to see an answer when i am home. I am just loosely reading along whenever i can at work. Answer to what? I thought I was up to date but I might of miss something.. | ||
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On July 02 2019 16:55 Jockmcplop wrote: Show nested quote + On July 02 2019 16:46 Eversince wrote: But it's not like he tried to start a wagon so where is mafia Pandain trying to take the easy shot here? Here's exactly what I'm thinking with this. Pandain had a read of trfel which he immediately went back on. This suggests that he isn't very confident in his early reads and specifically doesn't really expect to make a read early and stick to it. That's NAI on its own, although its a little odd so early in the game. When added to that, the fact that he has a kinda weak, tangential scum read on you and immediately uses it as reason to vote, while leaving the thread so his vote does literally nothing, is really weird. Its like he wanted to have a scum read and make sure we all knew what it was, but is not really trying to progress the game. If he's not trying to start a wagon, and he didn't stay here and question you or even vaguely try and poke for answers, what was the purpose behind voting for you? That's are actually good points. It's a toss away vote which can gain traction later (If he actually thinks I'm scum here for it why not talk to me?), which is either terrible town or mafia agenda. -sigh- I might have to tunnel Pand again this whole game. Hopefully he's actually mafia. | ||
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On July 02 2019 17:18 Holyflare wrote: Here Thoughts on people outside Pandain? actually throw Jock's Pandain points too.. | ||
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On July 02 2019 17:22 raynpelikoneet wrote: Show nested quote + On July 02 2019 16:04 raynpelikoneet wrote: On July 02 2019 15:39 Eversince wrote: On July 02 2019 15:35 raynpelikoneet wrote: On July 02 2019 13:44 Eversince wrote: But m!Grack wants to lead town to do stupid things. Can you give some examples of this that happened lately? Actually no. I was reference a point that anyone mafia in that position would do that. I could go filter Gracks past games but that seems real petty! If you did filter them you'd find that last game grack bussed his teammate to death d1 and another one on n2. Which is why i was wondering where you got that sentiment. I dont really understand whhat yourw saying here and how that relates to whatever grack has or hasnt done this game? On July 02 2019 16:12 Eversince wrote: Show nested quote + On July 02 2019 16:04 raynpelikoneet wrote: On July 02 2019 15:39 Eversince wrote: On July 02 2019 15:35 raynpelikoneet wrote: On July 02 2019 13:44 Eversince wrote: But m!Grack wants to lead town to do stupid things. Can you give some examples of this that happened lately? Actually no. I was reference a point that anyone mafia in that position would do that. I could go filter Gracks past games but that seems real petty! If you did filter them you'd find that last game grack bussed his teammate to death d1 and another one on n2. Which is why i was wondering where you got that sentiment. I dont really understand whhat yourw saying here and how that relates to whatever grack has or hasnt done this game? I'm going off memory (not reliable). Any mafia would want to try to change thread sentiment. Grack did nothing.. Even on your example.. if he bussed his whole team he still did something. Was my point. t!Grack doesn't care m!Grack does something (if that's true he just killed his whole team)! What game is it though? I'll filter him to try to see. | ||
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On July 02 2019 17:25 Holyflare wrote: You seem the same as last game tone wise but your content is completely lacking. You've essentially defended pretty much everyone when they were called mafia saying "Where's their agenda?" which I don't like at all sooo at the moment you're quite low down on my scum list. Trfel seems like a robot. I like all his content but absolutely feel like he's playing how he says he plays as mafia (although he seems to not agree (shocking)). Jock looks fine. Rayn is here I guess. Grack/conversion obviously look mediocre. Nothing really unique to add. Disappointed nobody even quoted my pandain post, I thought it was quite good. I'm trying to get people talking with agenda stuff. I want people to explain thoughts. Sad that makes me scum ![]() I like Truffles posting a lot, so care to talk on that? I have a heavy town read on him right now. I'm actively trying not to focus on Pand before repeat of last game happens ![]() | ||
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On July 02 2019 17:56 raynpelikoneet wrote: Show nested quote + On July 02 2019 17:27 Eversince wrote: On July 02 2019 17:22 raynpelikoneet wrote: On July 02 2019 16:04 raynpelikoneet wrote: On July 02 2019 15:39 Eversince wrote: On July 02 2019 15:35 raynpelikoneet wrote: On July 02 2019 13:44 Eversince wrote: But m!Grack wants to lead town to do stupid things. Can you give some examples of this that happened lately? Actually no. I was reference a point that anyone mafia in that position would do that. I could go filter Gracks past games but that seems real petty! If you did filter them you'd find that last game grack bussed his teammate to death d1 and another one on n2. Which is why i was wondering where you got that sentiment. I dont really understand whhat yourw saying here and how that relates to whatever grack has or hasnt done this game? On July 02 2019 16:12 Eversince wrote: On July 02 2019 16:04 raynpelikoneet wrote: On July 02 2019 15:39 Eversince wrote: On July 02 2019 15:35 raynpelikoneet wrote: On July 02 2019 13:44 Eversince wrote: But m!Grack wants to lead town to do stupid things. Can you give some examples of this that happened lately? Actually no. I was reference a point that anyone mafia in that position would do that. I could go filter Gracks past games but that seems real petty! If you did filter them you'd find that last game grack bussed his teammate to death d1 and another one on n2. Which is why i was wondering where you got that sentiment. I dont really understand whhat yourw saying here and how that relates to whatever grack has or hasnt done this game? I'm going off memory (not reliable). Any mafia would want to try to change thread sentiment. Grack did nothing.. Even on your example.. if he bussed his whole team he still did something. Was my point. t!Grack doesn't care m!Grack does something (if that's true he just killed his whole team)! What game is it though? I'll filter him to try to see. Why does grack necessarily want to change thread sentiment about 4hrs and a total of 1 townread in thread into the game? Why is it more scummy to want to do something than not do anything? Exactly, m!Grack makes no sense to me there because he just mia off. Nothing happens that early. You either try to be active and start the thread or just mia. Which he did. Or you try to get groundwork into looking town (Which he didn't). Showing up and being general useless doesn't make any sense as town or mafia. But Grack is flighty, tends to put a hell of a lot more effort late D1/D2. I don't like him continuing to be useless but I made post on this already. If he's still useless day 2 we can just lynch him but standard Grack play is standard Grack. | ||
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On July 02 2019 18:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: Do you, ES, think that grack is self-aware of his meta to some extent? He's been playing since I joined this site so I'm sure yes. Probably uses it to advantage as scum, why I think he's not worth the lynch now but later? Sure. @Jock I'll go filter that game and brainstorm. | ||
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I'm ok with lynching you for coming into thread, saying 1 perfect valid thing, ignoring the rest of the thread, fucking right off. Don't misunderstand me ![]() I give Grack a pass because I've on/off played with him 4 years now and expect this type of thing.=I'm not going to immediately scum read you. | ||
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On July 02 2019 18:37 Eversince wrote: Ok. I read through his filter from that game real fast. Posting style seems very different from here. @Conv EBWOP sorry, to make this clear.. I'm ok with lynching you for coming into thread, saying 1 perfect valid thing, ignoring the rest of the thread, fucking right off. Don't misunderstand me ![]() I give Grack a pass because I've on/off played with him 4 years now and expect this type of thing.=I'm not going to immediately scum read you. | ||
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On July 02 2019 18:41 Jockmcplop wrote: Show nested quote + On July 02 2019 18:37 Eversince wrote: Ok. I read through his filter from that game real fast. Posting style seems very different from here. I can see why you wouldn't agree with me given that the conclusion you would draw from post is that both you and trfel are mafia.... I'll keep in mind what you said about it as other people respond to me though. Fair ![]() | ||
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On July 02 2019 18:49 Conversion wrote: yeah actually maybe I take my Grack read back iirc I can never read him correctly it’s 5:49 am here I’m going to get some coffee and read some shit after I drop someone off at the airport Thanks for ignoring everything I made points on. Great help there! Enjoy the coffee and I seriously hope your friend gets the flight! (airports suck!) | ||
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On July 02 2019 20:55 Conversion wrote: I mean a lot of your points are just "meh let's see what people do in the day, I quite don't like certain things they are saying," except Trfel who you have a soul town read on for some reason, and me who you think is scum even if I'm back and actually saying things in the thread Show nested quote + On July 02 2019 13:16 Eversince wrote: I don't like Pandain's weird Truffle town read. It would be fine but putting Truffles town and me null at that early was just weird. I get why he says I'd be 'forced' to be active but at least I'm trying. I'm very obvious to just ask if you want me to explain anything. So giving Truffles a town read and nulling me when I am around is just.. off. Conversion entrance seemed bleh. But I see what he was saying now. Using 4 year meta read is kind of bad. But sadly, I don't play as much anymore. Conv pointing it out, giving a decent reason for it, not commenting on the rest of game.. That seems questionable to me. There wasn't much content (still not) but I'll decide on that when I see how he actually plays! Show nested quote + On July 02 2019 13:20 Eversince wrote: To clarify Pandain problem: If you give Truffles town read there and someone your not sure about is known to be active, why not just try to get a better read on them? The fact he didn't bother to interact is bigger issue to me I think. I don't want to spend all of day 1 tunneled on Pandain though. What are your thoughts? Show nested quote + On July 02 2019 13:26 Eversince wrote: I think Grack is just being usual Grack again. Rayn finding it weird Truffles would read me t!ES is fine for prior reasons. I think they are wrong though. Show nested quote + On July 02 2019 16:46 Eversince wrote: Bleh Pand seems to me the same as last game. I don't understand his logic and I'm 'ok' with his reasons for Truffles/ES read now, it took me a long time to get there. I'm not vesting into Pand real hard because last game I spent the entire time thinking he was mafia, he turned up town. I think there could be mafia motivation behind the vote on me. I'll have to think on that. I'm real ditsy, easy to misunderstand, and don't pick up on people real fast. But it's not like he tried to start a wagon so where is mafia Pandain trying to take the easy shot here? I also find it quite suspicious that you're overly defending Grack's play in that he'll come in later and play the game (and basically writing him off your d1 lynch list), but you're applying the opposite logic on me and calling me scum for it. Ok. The problem I have with you is you jump in thread, make 1 valid point, ignore rest of the thread. I've already made a post on these reasons. I've already made post on reasons I'm trying to interact with people. I give reasons when people interact with me! HF kind of did although they where boring.This is the first attempt that you make and it's "ES is probably mafia for trying to figure out the game".. I don't like it! | ||
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On July 03 2019 00:25 raynpelikoneet wrote: who made the above post then? :O Guilty as charged! I'm just reading up thread and trying to make conclusions. Your Pand point makes sense but why would m!Pand point it out? He did vote me but he didn't push for it. m!Pand here would want to start a wagon? Oh crap, I think that happened though! No one seems to like me ![]() Also you sum my Grack points back up yourself. He could be mafia, but he could be t!Grack here and not giving a darn. I don't like to lynch town. | ||
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He doesn't but it could be either m!Grack/t!Grack. I'm saying we lynch most likely mafia over him. Because Grack playstyle make it hard to tell if he's m!Grack yet because his town play looks the same D1. | ||
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I think Grack could play his inactive self d1 as either mafia!Grack or town!Grack. I give him the pass today because I know this about him. I would still lynch but I think it's not worth our votes with better options | ||
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1) Ok. Your points against me mostly add to.. "meh let's see what people do in the day, I quite don't like certain things they are saying," That's true. Maby I need to take harder stances.. But it's super early, I want convo so I can make opinions on people. 2) Disliking the fact I give Grack free pass and finding you off. I have played with Grack for 4 years! I know his playstyle a certain level. I am totally comfortable waiting to lynch him because I know his t!Grack play can be just like this. I haven't played with you so when you do what you did it seems highly fishy to me. Same reasoning for not wanting to lynch HF! If the man is town, he's going to either die tonight, or come play and just kill mafia. I don't get why no one understanding this. | ||
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On July 03 2019 00:56 raynpelikoneet wrote: Like i have your words on "Exactly, m!Grack makes no sense" and you're now telling me "I think Grack could play his inactive self d1 as either mafia!Grack or town!Grack"?????????????? I said 'I don't want to lynch Grack because x'.. Rayn stop being dense! | ||
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My issue with lynching Grack has always been 'Grack is being useless!' Truffles said something about it 'he's not posting gifs and making jokes' I say 'Yeh, but he might be trying to change because people wanted to lynch him last game for the same reason' (Not in those words but basic thoughts I had) Grack mia/being general useless is not uncommon. I've played with him enough to know. I'm saying I don't think m!Grack does come into thread, be useless then disappears, for no better reason than to make himself look bad. t!Grack totally wouldn't care.. Conclusion: Grack may totes be scum. But his play there is not a reason to think he is a mafia yet. | ||
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On July 03 2019 01:22 Grackaroni wrote: ES do you still feel this way with your Trfel town read? Show nested quote + On July 02 2019 11:31 Eversince wrote: Yeah ok. Pandain giving Truffles a townread and saying I didn't do anything is just trash! But at least he asnwer me. Conversion is fine for doubting it. He's not dirving an agenda but just doesn't believe, that's ok I think. Truffles is so town it hurts! Why are you guys skeptical on him? I'll be here! who wants to talk? I'm still totally ok with my Truffles read. | ||
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Where did I "townread the shit out of grack" I've been super transparent with why I think he's not a good lynch. I literally don't know how to explain better than I just did! | ||
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On July 03 2019 01:32 raynpelikoneet wrote: Aside from Conversion who do you think is mafia? Sadly it's probably in the lurker pile. Ewya isn't even playing. FF ask for a replace though so maby that's the problem. Wouldn't lynch. HF hasn't been useful but it will correct itself soon. Pand seems fishy to me but I always waffle on him. | ||
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On July 03 2019 01:39 Jockmcplop wrote: ES can I ask exactly what it is about trfel that you find makes him town? We've established that m!trfel will townread people early, so please don't base it only on that. I'm only saying this because a huge percentage of your posts so far have been about trfel. There's like 20 posts in your filter about Pandain townreading trfel but not you. Its like your plan for the game revolves entirely around trfel being town. He just seems really open about how he develops ideas. He's opened minded like he's trying to figure game out versus a planned 'this person is town' 'lynch this guy with fire wahaha!' Literally nothing he's posted so far (sorry not going to filter now to verify this, just memory!) seems like it comes from m!Truffles perspective. His early read from the other game was forced. His tone in that whole game was forced. It's not that here so he's fine for now. Real low on my list at least | ||
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Oh Ewya I just mention you! Have you read the thread yet? | ||
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On July 03 2019 01:51 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On July 03 2019 01:22 Eversince wrote: I can go rummage my play history but I don't see the point in it Rayn. If you've been here so long (I know you have), you know HF can play a mean town game. If he's mafia he'll drop off and we lynch him. Where are you going with this? You're mafia. ##vote Eversince HF what in that post makes me mafia?? | ||
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On July 03 2019 02:02 raynpelikoneet wrote: HF is ridiculosuly good mafia player but if he is mafia it's np we just lynch him? Ok sorry. Making it clearer HF is good at mafia (the game itself). He's stronger town player, mafia usually just kill him off than deal with him. His mafia playstyle is way more 'just afk'. | ||
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On July 03 2019 02:06 Eywa- wrote: Yeah, I caught up. Thoughts? | ||
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The only m!HF game we played together he was super dis-motivated/burnt out. That's where I was basing my HF meta from. | ||
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On July 03 2019 02:43 Eywa- wrote: Show nested quote + On July 03 2019 02:41 raynpelikoneet wrote: On July 03 2019 02:40 Eywa- wrote: On July 03 2019 02:32 raynpelikoneet wrote: On July 03 2019 02:29 Eywa- wrote: I'm really not sure what else I'm supposed to provide or how it'll be valuable. Why did you say "if eversince flips mafia then this game is just super easy going forward"? You must have a reason for it and afaik it's the reasoning you are voting for her (as you haven't said anythig else on why she is mafia). So what am i supposed to think if not that? Not my reason for voting... My reason for voting is that I think ES is mafia. cute, why is she mafia? The biggest reason is her role PM. Probably RNG. You know I didn't like the way you come in, throw the easy vote on me. I had this same problem with Conv already this game. Now you want to say I'm just a RNG right after you say I'm mafia? I'm waffling again. | ||
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On July 03 2019 02:46 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On July 03 2019 02:39 Eversince wrote: Ok. I've dug and dug. I can't find it.. Which makes me look bad. But I don't want to dedicate much more time. So I filter some of his other mafia games and I'm clearly wrong. I'll own up to this now. The only m!HF game we played together he was super dis-motivated/burnt out. That's where I was basing my HF meta from. Whoa what game was that? I posted that saying I couldn't find it ![]() Just owning up to my mistakes! | ||
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On July 03 2019 02:54 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On July 03 2019 02:49 Eversince wrote: On July 03 2019 02:46 Holyflare wrote: On July 03 2019 02:39 Eversince wrote: Ok. I've dug and dug. I can't find it.. Which makes me look bad. But I don't want to dedicate much more time. So I filter some of his other mafia games and I'm clearly wrong. I'll own up to this now. The only m!HF game we played together he was super dis-motivated/burnt out. That's where I was basing my HF meta from. Whoa what game was that? I posted that saying I couldn't find it ![]() Just owning up to my mistakes! Just to make sure: Student Mafia XV - didn't play together Student Mafia XVI - didn't play together A Simple Game of Mafia - vt shot night 2 TL Mafia LXXV - vt shot night 1 MafiacalFeast I - town and lynched all the mafia (tbh this is the only game I remember with you because of the gunsmith claim lol) Yeah, I dunno. Might of been a game I /obs for or just read. I couldn't find it either. That's why I wanted to apologies and own up to it here.. | ||
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On July 03 2019 02:57 Jockmcplop wrote: Show nested quote + On July 03 2019 02:55 Eversince wrote: I don't even think his scum read on me is wrong. I made a mistake and HF finding a problem with it makes sense because I made no sense. Are you saying I should also scum read you for that? Hopefully not!! I'm just saying I get why he had a problem with it and that is fine. It doesn't make him scum for me not explaining myself well.. | ||
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On July 03 2019 03:03 Jockmcplop wrote: I don't think you're mafia ES, not yet anyway. All this stuff coming from rayn, hf and conversion seems kinda weak to be honest, even though there's alot of it. Meh I think HF isn't scum for his points. Rayn just seems to be tumbling his brain.. Which is towny to me in the sense he's trying to figure things out. Conv I have issues with that I posted before. And Ewya is bothering me too. I need to think on her more yet. | ||
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On July 03 2019 03:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: I think Eywa is the other mafia, Trfel and Pandain can be for now. Why do you think Truffles is mafia? Conv/Ewya basically did the same things and you're not reading him town for it but Ewya mafia? | ||
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On July 03 2019 03:21 Eversince wrote: Show nested quote + On July 03 2019 03:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: I think Eywa is the other mafia, Trfel and Pandain can be for now. Why do you think Truffles is mafia? Conv/Ewya basically did the same things and you're are reading him town for it but Ewya mafia? edit | ||
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On July 03 2019 03:23 raynpelikoneet wrote: I dont think Trfel is mafia, i think you are. Also Conv/Eywa never fucking ever did "the same things". now sleep for real. Please. Come in throw the easy vote because 'everyone hates ES for not emulating her "perfect townie play"!, doing trash job at explaining it, and falling off the side of a cliff again? Exactly what both Conv/Ewya did here. You just said you'd lynch Truffles Rayn. Why is what I want to know. | ||
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That makes life hard though if you are scum over lost town. I'll have to filter again.. | ||
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She will fight tooth and nail and still say nothing with Rayn. But there is like 15 pg of content and I'm the easy vote, so just kill ES, dump everything else, and try to appear like your doing something. | ||
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On July 03 2019 04:41 Eywa- wrote: I'm saying I think you're mafia. Make up your mind here. I'm mafia, RNG, and now back to mafia. Why? | ||
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On July 03 2019 04:47 Eywa- wrote: Show nested quote + On July 03 2019 04:42 Eversince wrote: On July 03 2019 04:41 Eywa- wrote: On July 03 2019 04:40 Eversince wrote: So you're saying I'm an info lynch? I'm saying I think you're mafia. Make up your mind here. I'm mafia, RNG, and now back to mafia. Why? No, I've always said you're mafia, a role which you obtained via RNG. Ok. That's the most bullshit reason ever! I'm sorry for the strong language but this crap everyone is m!ES reading me is total crap. You put a scum read on me BECAUSE FF RNG me mafia. If that is the entirety of your read that's just junk! There is so much else in the thread and adide from you evading Rayn you've done nothing. Literally trying to be around and engage with people again, get thread moving, explain my thoughts, own to mistakes, What in all of this makes you think I'm scum? Because I found it scummy Conv went after me for these reasons. I'm find it worst becuase you mia and then jump on these same reasons. | ||
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On July 03 2019 05:00 Eywa- wrote: Show nested quote + On July 03 2019 04:58 Eversince wrote: I apologies for the bad spelling btw. I'm so tired right now I could fall over.. I didn't through, I'm reading you as mafia because you're mafia by play. What IN my play has seemed scum to you? | ||
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On July 03 2019 05:04 Conversion wrote: why am I scummy all of the sudden for scumreading you and playing the game? I really don't like your string of latest posts at all. I've said all game I don't like you. | ||
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On July 03 2019 05:07 Eywa- wrote: Idk, feels like you've slipped a bunch and you're reluctant to just tell people they're wrong when reading you. You on multiple occasions tiptoed around that either indicating you don't like the way you're being read or that you felt a read on you was justified (despite it being a mafia read) You also haven't provided much substance imo despite aggressively posting (I know, I'm the one talking...) Overall, I'm failing to see any reason to not lynch you. Hopefully this falls into the category of sufficient justification, because I won't be going into any of the scum theater, that's discussion for another day. Throw your vote down and stop saying how much you don't like my position, if you don't like it, put your vote where your mouth is. Yes maby I am to nice to people. Starting a game how is that bad? To me it seems like your taking easy town lynch because I CAN'T play the same every game. So just kill her. Maby I think about this wrong. Maby I just need to be assholes to everyone. But that is not who I am so I can't do it!! | ||
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On July 03 2019 05:31 Eywa- wrote: [/green][/green]Show nested quote + On July 03 2019 05:14 Eversince wrote: On July 03 2019 05:07 Eywa- wrote: Idk, feels like you've slipped a bunch and you're reluctant to just tell people they're wrong when reading you. You on multiple occasions tiptoed around that either indicating you don't like the way you're being read or that you felt a read on you was justified (despite it being a mafia read) You also haven't provided much substance imo despite aggressively posting (I know, I'm the one talking...) Overall, I'm failing to see any reason to not lynch you. Hopefully this falls into the category of sufficient justification, because I won't be going into any of the scum theater, that's discussion for another day. Throw your vote down and stop saying how much you don't like my position, if you don't like it, put your vote where your mouth is. Yes maby I am to nice to people. Starting a game how is that bad? To me it seems like your taking easy town lynch because I CAN'T play the same every game. So just kill her. Maby I think about this wrong. Maby I just need to be assholes to everyone. But that is not who I am so I can't do it!! Nah, your start to this game (basically your entire first page of game (not including pre-game) filter is:I start every town game with just spamming up the thread trying to talk to people! 1) trying to pocket Pandain Pocket Pandain? I've actively not wanted to scum read him for bad reasons. I already said I don't get his logic. I don't want to waste entire game waffling him again! 2) random town read on first player to post See above 3) trying to pocket Pandain Assume this is a repeat, see above 4) AtE I don't know what AtE means so I can respond here. There's some random comment about how you don't mind conversion (that was contradicted like 2-3 posts later - and then later escalated again). where? Overall, here's a summary... You're all over that AtE this game You're always coming back to Pandain mafia and claiming that his read on you is wrong... Well, if he's mafia... He's not wrong is he? He's just... Well, Mafia. Yes. But it makes no sense for t!ES to mud up the thread because Pandain is doing nothing so. You went through a phase of trying to name drop every player in the game, which lead to some reads escalating rather... Strangely. I went through a 'phase' of trying to recall thing on players I've played with for years. I owned up to were I made mistakes. You seem to be displaying a complete lack of understanding for why anyone is being read in certain ways rather than seeing things from their (town) perspective. That totally explains why I have a scum read on you right? I'm voting ES now, I'll be voting ES at end of day as well. | ||
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On July 03 2019 05:41 Eversince wrote: Show nested quote + On July 03 2019 05:31 Eywa- wrote: On July 03 2019 05:14 Eversince wrote: On July 03 2019 05:07 Eywa- wrote: Idk, feels like you've slipped a bunch and you're reluctant to just tell people they're wrong when reading you. You on multiple occasions tiptoed around that either indicating you don't like the way you're being read or that you felt a read on you was justified (despite it being a mafia read) You also haven't provided much substance imo despite aggressively posting (I know, I'm the one talking...) Overall, I'm failing to see any reason to not lynch you. Hopefully this falls into the category of sufficient justification, because I won't be going into any of the scum theater, that's discussion for another day. Throw your vote down and stop saying how much you don't like my position, if you don't like it, put your vote where your mouth is. Yes maby I am to nice to people. Starting a game how is that bad? To me it seems like your taking easy town lynch because I CAN'T play the same every game. So just kill her. Maby I think about this wrong. Maby I just need to be assholes to everyone. But that is not who I am so I can't do it!! Nah, your start to this game (basically your entire first page of game (not including pre-game) filter is:I start every town game with just spamming up the thread trying to talk to people! 1) trying to pocket Pandain Pocket Pandain? I've actively not wanted to scum read him for bad reasons. I already said I don't get his logic. I don't want to waste entire game waffling him again! 2) random town read on first player to post See above 3) trying to pocket Pandain Assume this is a repeat, see above 4) AtE I don't know what AtE means so I can respond here. There's some random comment about how you don't mind conversion (that was contradicted like 2-3 posts later - and then later escalated again). where? Overall, here's a summary... You're all over that AtE this game You're always coming back to Pandain mafia and claiming that his read on you is wrong... Well, if he's mafia... He's not wrong is he? He's just... Well, Mafia. Yes. But it makes no sense for t!ES to mud up the thread because Pandain is doing nothing so. You went through a phase of trying to name drop every player in the game, which lead to some reads escalating rather... Strangely. I went through a 'phase' of trying to recall thing on players I've played with for years. I owned up to were I made mistakes. You seem to be displaying a complete lack of understanding for why anyone is being read in certain ways rather than seeing things from their (town) perspective. That totally explains why I have a scum read on you right? I'm voting ES now, I'll be voting ES at end of day as well. Ok? I think? | ||
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PLEASE PM ALL QUESTIONS TO THE HOSTS. DO NOT ASK QUESTIONS IN THREAD. From OP! | ||
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On July 03 2019 05:49 Eywa- wrote: oh, my bad. ;d We have very loose site rules where I usually play. Off topic but I think it's fine. TL mafia use to use a font to ask mod questions. I just remember from the rules post so I posted it! | ||
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On July 03 2019 05:55 Eywa- wrote: Also FYI -> For Your Information AtE -> Appeal to Emotion Ok. Thanks. Wrose to my point then is why you think trying to make people enjoy being here and post is a bad thing. We develops reads from people posting. | ||
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On July 03 2019 05:59 Grackaroni wrote: lol what time is it in the Philippines? 5 am? I'm back in the States right now. But I work overnights for a Chem company and I'm always on call for problems with another plant I work at in Philippines. I'm just dead because I want to be around for people to talk to. Just did a 21 hour day yesterday. Then didn't sleep last night. My mind is fuzzy, | ||
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On July 03 2019 06:05 Grackaroni wrote: Show nested quote + On July 03 2019 02:19 Holyflare wrote: On July 03 2019 02:16 raynpelikoneet wrote: On July 03 2019 02:11 Holyflare wrote: In no planet am I ever an afk mafia. I think I'm the most try hard mafia player on this site even. True. Why does she say otherwise as mafia? Because she doesn't know my meta and has been asked to give a read on me and I have little to no content. She knows I'm town and that I get shot by mafia so she says the truth, that I'm likely to come back and post more if town but then obviously has to arbitrarily fit in the alternative to make it look like she's weighing up my alignment but she got it way wrong. How does she know I'm likely to be shot as town because I'm good at mafia and mafia fear me but not know my mafia meta? It sounds like she just knows hf = vet = apply generic vet meta. I would be very careful about calling her out for misapplying meta on you. This is my fourth game with her and she thinks she's the resident Grackaroni expert even though I've played like 25 games with you/Rayn. Also no not expert!! I have played here a while though. So I treat people different! | ||
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On July 03 2019 06:14 Pandain wrote: Show nested quote + On July 03 2019 06:02 Eversince wrote: On July 03 2019 05:59 Grackaroni wrote: On July 03 2019 05:58 Eversince wrote: My god I need to sleep already. worse* lol what time is it in the Philippines? 5 am? I'm back in the States right now. But I work overnights for a Chem company and I'm always on call for problems with another plant I work at in Philippines. I'm just dead because I want to be around for people to talk to. Just did a 21 hour day yesterday. Then didn't sleep last night. My mind is fuzzy, If this is true you should probably go to sleep now. If you're exhausted and making mistakes you're just going to bring more suspicion on yourself. I've only briefly followed this thread throughout the day (15 hour shift) but I just noticed you just said you don't understand my reasoning when the last thing you had said to me when I was active was "oh I understand you now" So either you're lying or you can't remember anything. Either one is possible based on what you're saying about your exhaustion Yes Pandain. I spent the whole last game we played waffling on you reasoning. I don't want that to be an issue for this one! I understood one point you made to say I'm lying is kind of trash. I got what you where trying to say, other people posted some stuff, I start to waffle Pandain again. That's why you not in my lynch pool today I much rather go Conv/Ewya for what I posted already. | ||
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On July 03 2019 11:09 Grackaroni wrote: I'm not drunk you're drunk. Grack stop being useless! I've given you so much room this game but everyone wants to kill for that crap. You've really giving me no reason to think your scum yet but I'm die because of 'loose reads'! Also if you don't start posting super town soon I'm have to re-evaluate myself because you made your yourself obvious town last game. Where is it here? | ||
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Man this is just making my head hurt! 2 mafia, Conv/Ewya reasons are dumpster. HF I made a mistake, owned up too it, trying to fix it. Rayn I tried to explain myself too best of my ability too. I'm thinking this is easy because I am not popular in thread sentiment. Oh! look at that person over there that everyone thinks is scum! Let me point out this other bad fact. Bye!! | ||
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On July 03 2019 12:10 Grackaroni wrote: No worries Eversince. I am giving Pandain the PROBING of a life time. If it involves beads, I don't want to hear about it! ![]() | ||
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On July 03 2019 12:56 Grackaroni wrote: Can I ask, what was the post you made that you feel is very good? Feel good about what? | ||
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On July 03 2019 12:58 Grackaroni wrote: Show nested quote + On July 03 2019 12:57 Eversince wrote: On July 03 2019 12:56 Grackaroni wrote: Can I ask, what was the post you made that you feel is very good? Feel good about what? The one regarding Eywa/Conv that you mentioned. My filter is full of it but I'll recap real fast. Conv/Ewya both came into thread, throw easy vote on ES, didn't explain it, disappear. I feel better about Ewya actually trying to park a vote with no reasoning here than Conv. Conv that early could be just t!Conv having a problem with that I general play "Hey! lets get this thing moving already!" He was around super early so I think Ewya looks way worse for doing it. | ||
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On July 03 2019 13:14 Eywa- wrote: Show nested quote + On July 03 2019 11:52 Eversince wrote: What's people think about Pandains cheap in thread, "Go sleep", comment on nothing else, gone.. Because I'm finding it off myself. I don't know that I would read much into it, because I also deviated from my standard gameplay to write to you because you seemed distressed. ![]() I'll wager it's not gameplay tactics from Pandain. Why really? I'm under tons of pressure. Why would m!Pand not try to silence me? Going silent at that time is literally the worse move t!ES can make. | ||
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On July 03 2019 13:43 Eversince wrote: Show nested quote + On July 03 2019 13:14 Eywa- wrote: On July 03 2019 11:52 Eversince wrote: What's people think about Pandains cheap in thread, "Go sleep", comment on nothing else, gone.. Because I'm finding it off myself. I don't know that I would read much into it, because I also deviated from my standard gameplay to write to you because you seemed distressed. ![]() I'll wager it's not gameplay tactics from Pandain. Why really? I'm under tons of pressure. Why would m!Pand not try to silence me? Going silent at that time is literally the worse move t!ES can make. I do want answer to this. | ||
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On July 03 2019 17:41 Jockmcplop wrote: Show nested quote + On July 03 2019 17:35 Eversince wrote: I got called off to work. but I'm back now if people want to talk! It would be in your interest to take a look at grack, given that he's now the alternate wagon to you! I've already said what I feel about Grack. His poor contribution after I defend him so hard is bleh though. I'd be ok with lynching him to be honest. | ||
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On July 03 2019 17:43 Pandain wrote: Show nested quote + On July 03 2019 17:35 Eversince wrote: I got called off to work. but I'm back now if people want to talk! Just read the last two pages. I already did silly! | ||
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On July 03 2019 17:51 Pandain wrote: I don't think ES is crazy/meta enough to do something like that. It's obvious she's been desperate to survive, if she was mafia she would jump at the opportunity to lynch someone she has expressed doubts about before. @conf, HF, Rayn please comment on this. This post makes me feel so much better for you honest. Don't take this as I'm trying to buddy you. But it does make me feel a lot better again. | ||
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On July 03 2019 17:52 Pandain wrote: @ES Convince me that Eywa is mafia. Make a post with support and quoted posts. Honestly, I can't. I'm at work on a laptop. I can try though! Depends if I have free time! If not I can 100% do it when I get home! | ||
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On July 03 2019 18:00 Pandain wrote: Show nested quote + On July 03 2019 17:58 Eversince wrote: On July 03 2019 17:52 Pandain wrote: @ES Convince me that Eywa is mafia. Make a post with support and quoted posts. Honestly, I can't. I'm at work on a laptop. I can try though! Depends if I have free time! If not I can 100% do it when I get home! ES: Eywa is mafia! Let's lynch him Pandain: Why? ES: Can't talk now! hahahaha What do you think about Jock and I's points on Grack? You only commented on your previously held beliefs regarding him. Did Jock and I make any good points? I'm comfortable with Eywa/Conv because of reasons I've already said. If you want me to apologies for having to work, you not getting one. Jock seems lie misguided town more than anything. | ||
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On July 03 2019 18:08 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On July 03 2019 17:51 Pandain wrote: I don't think ES is crazy/meta enough to do something like that. It's obvious she's been desperate to survive, if she was mafia she would jump at the opportunity to lynch someone she has expressed doubts about before. @conf, HF, Rayn please comment on this. I don't agree with your conclusion. She's meekly soft defended grack all game and then sprinkled "hesitance" and done nothing with it. They could easily be mafia together, or she could know he's town. Both things point to a mafia es because grack looks absolutely shit and a free lynch for literally anyone to hop onto. Meek? I've hard defended Grack on a meta read all game! @Pand ok but don't see the issue. My own read :Grack gets his thing together or lynch.I talk to Grack and he is still basic 'I'm be useless'. Everyone else pages later: Grack gets his things togthero or we lynch him. | ||
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On July 03 2019 18:13 Pandain wrote: Actually what does that even mean "she could know he's town." Why would that matter for mafia ES? What is this reasoning? Where did I ever say this? | ||
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I'm try to catch up but I have to go take care of animals. No promises. | ||
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On July 04 2019 03:24 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On July 04 2019 03:22 raynpelikoneet wrote: On July 03 2019 23:32 Holyflare wrote: On July 03 2019 23:19 Trfel wrote: On July 03 2019 01:09 Eversince wrote: @Raynpelikoneet, is the bolded the thing you are using to scumread Eversince?And I've played with HF a few times over the years. He's stupid good mafia player. If he's town he'll figure things out! Go look at his massive list of games to look. Like he can be wrong but mafia almost always shoot into the vets on this site (HF/Rayn/Marv etc..etc.) Because to me, Eversince is saying here that Holyflare is good at mafia as a game, not as an alignment. She also clarified that she meant I'm good at mafia rather than the mafia alignment. I know she did but do you believe that's the truth? I don't. Yeah because why would she say I'm good as mafia and simultaneously say I'm afk as mafia? She wouldn't. My points were about something completely different though and I don't think they're as awful as pandain and jock make them out to be. Summarize for me. because I thought your points against me where crap. | ||
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What other point did you have? | ||
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On July 04 2019 03:28 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On July 04 2019 03:28 Eversince wrote: On July 04 2019 03:24 Holyflare wrote: On July 04 2019 03:22 raynpelikoneet wrote: On July 03 2019 23:32 Holyflare wrote: On July 03 2019 23:19 Trfel wrote: On July 03 2019 01:09 Eversince wrote: @Raynpelikoneet, is the bolded the thing you are using to scumread Eversince?And I've played with HF a few times over the years. He's stupid good mafia player. If he's town he'll figure things out! Go look at his massive list of games to look. Like he can be wrong but mafia almost always shoot into the vets on this site (HF/Rayn/Marv etc..etc.) Because to me, Eversince is saying here that Holyflare is good at mafia as a game, not as an alignment. She also clarified that she meant I'm good at mafia rather than the mafia alignment. I know she did but do you believe that's the truth? I don't. Yeah because why would she say I'm good as mafia and simultaneously say I'm afk as mafia? She wouldn't. My points were about something completely different though and I don't think they're as awful as pandain and jock make them out to be. Summarize for me. because I thought your points against me where crap. But you agreed with them and said my vote is valid because of it originally lol? I agreed with why you made them! I tried real hard to explain myself after that fact. You obviously don't like it but it still kind of proved my point because here you are. trying to engage game (Did the same there), and solve things. The fact you completely ignore my response due to mia/w/e makes me feel worse on you because I've been transparent on how I develop. So you continuing to push me is questionable at this point. | ||
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On July 04 2019 03:30 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On July 03 2019 02:55 Eversince wrote: I don't even think his scum read on me is wrong. I made a mistake and HF finding a problem with it makes sense because I made no sense. Yes but why does m!ES take that and give it to you? | ||
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ES makes a bad meta read. HF has problems with it. ES can't show reasons for read, own up to it. Gets killed because she just picks a fight with HF. What world would I do this? | ||
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On July 04 2019 03:39 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On July 04 2019 03:34 Eversince wrote: On July 04 2019 03:28 Holyflare wrote: On July 04 2019 03:28 Eversince wrote: On July 04 2019 03:24 Holyflare wrote: On July 04 2019 03:22 raynpelikoneet wrote: On July 03 2019 23:32 Holyflare wrote: On July 03 2019 23:19 Trfel wrote: On July 03 2019 01:09 Eversince wrote: @Raynpelikoneet, is the bolded the thing you are using to scumread Eversince?And I've played with HF a few times over the years. He's stupid good mafia player. If he's town he'll figure things out! Go look at his massive list of games to look. Like he can be wrong but mafia almost always shoot into the vets on this site (HF/Rayn/Marv etc..etc.) Because to me, Eversince is saying here that Holyflare is good at mafia as a game, not as an alignment. She also clarified that she meant I'm good at mafia rather than the mafia alignment. I know she did but do you believe that's the truth? I don't. Yeah because why would she say I'm good as mafia and simultaneously say I'm afk as mafia? She wouldn't. My points were about something completely different though and I don't think they're as awful as pandain and jock make them out to be. Summarize for me. because I thought your points against me where crap. But you agreed with them and said my vote is valid because of it originally lol? I agreed with why you made them! I tried real hard to explain myself after that fact. You obviously don't like it but it still kind of proved my point because here you are. trying to engage game (Did the same there), and solve things. The fact you completely ignore my response due to mia/w/e makes me feel worse on you because I've been transparent on how I develop. So you continuing to push me is questionable at this point. No, it's not. I did literally the same thing to Pandain last game and he even complained about it. If you agreed with them why did you just come in and say my points were trash? Mainly because they are trash to call me mafia here. I get why you made them but why you're STILL persisting on them is baffling to me! | ||
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On July 04 2019 03:41 Holyflare wrote: I'm not picking a fight. I just think you're mafia because you haven't really called anyone other than eywa mafia. Prove someone else is mafia and why I should vote for them. I've given points on Conv and Ewya. I also waffle on Pandain but I think his recent post (along what I said earlier) he looks a lot better. I've given points on almost everyone in this game. HF if your town just freaking read. | ||
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Your driving me seems super forced here. I don't like it at all. I was ready to call the whole Jock/HF thing town vs town but your making me doubt myself.. | ||
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On July 04 2019 03:52 Conversion wrote: Show nested quote + On July 04 2019 03:44 Eversince wrote: On July 04 2019 03:41 Holyflare wrote: I'm not picking a fight. I just think you're mafia because you haven't really called anyone other than eywa mafia. Prove someone else is mafia and why I should vote for them. I've given points on Conv and Ewya. I also waffle on Pandain but I think his recent post (along what I said earlier) he looks a lot better. I've given points on almost everyone in this game. HF if your town just freaking read. Your points on me: 1) Entrance bad 2) I don’t like him You haven’t evolved your read on me or reinforced it as I posted more. Until you start playing the game instead of yelling about how no one wants to listen to you, my vote stays on you. That's true at all! I said I didn't like you for the same reason I don't like Eywa. I said I'm more willing to let you pass for it because you did it WAYYYYY earlier than Eywa did. Don't misquote me. | ||
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On July 04 2019 03:55 Eversince wrote: Show nested quote + On July 04 2019 03:52 Conversion wrote: On July 04 2019 03:44 Eversince wrote: On July 04 2019 03:41 Holyflare wrote: I'm not picking a fight. I just think you're mafia because you haven't really called anyone other than eywa mafia. Prove someone else is mafia and why I should vote for them. I've given points on Conv and Ewya. I also waffle on Pandain but I think his recent post (along what I said earlier) he looks a lot better. I've given points on almost everyone in this game. HF if your town just freaking read. Your points on me: 1) Entrance bad 2) I don’t like him You haven’t evolved your read on me or reinforced it as I posted more. Until you start playing the game instead of yelling about how no one wants to listen to you, my vote stays on you. That'snot true at all! I said I didn't like you for the same reason I don't like Eywa. I said I'm more willing to let you pass for it because you did it WAYYYYY earlier than Eywa did. Don't misquote me. edit | ||
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I can't explain this any better. I DID answer you. Your COMPLETELY IGNORING it. I don't make huge cases anymore. I've JUST gave you two other people I have made issues with. You push me for doing what I just did. Are you just scum HF? | ||
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On July 04 2019 04:00 Holyflare wrote: ES can you summarise why Eywa is your biggest scum read in this entire game in a few bullet points please? -sigh- Yes. Give me half a second to find my post. | ||
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On July 03 2019 04:42 Eversince wrote: Show nested quote + On July 03 2019 04:41 Eywa- wrote: On July 03 2019 04:40 Eversince wrote: So you're saying I'm an info lynch? I'm saying I think you're mafia. Make up your mind here. I'm mafia, RNG, and now back to mafia. Why? On July 03 2019 04:56 Eversince wrote: Show nested quote + On July 03 2019 04:47 Eywa- wrote: On July 03 2019 04:42 Eversince wrote: On July 03 2019 04:41 Eywa- wrote: On July 03 2019 04:40 Eversince wrote: So you're saying I'm an info lynch? I'm saying I think you're mafia. Make up your mind here. I'm mafia, RNG, and now back to mafia. Why? No, I've always said you're mafia, a role which you obtained via RNG. Ok. That's the most bullshit reason ever! I'm sorry for the strong language but this crap everyone is m!ES reading me is total crap. You put a scum read on me BECAUSE FF RNG me mafia. If that is the entirety of your read that's just junk! There is so much else in the thread and adide from you evading Rayn you've done nothing. Literally trying to be around and engage with people again, get thread moving, explain my thoughts, own to mistakes, What in all of this makes you think I'm scum? Because I found it scummy Conv went after me for these reasons. I'm find it worst becuase you mia and then jump on these same reasons. On July 03 2019 05:01 Eversince wrote: Show nested quote + On July 03 2019 05:00 Eywa- wrote: On July 03 2019 04:58 Eversince wrote: I apologies for the bad spelling btw. I'm so tired right now I could fall over.. I didn't through, I'm reading you as mafia because you're mafia by play. What IN my play has seemed scum to you? On July 03 2019 05:14 Eversince wrote: Show nested quote + On July 03 2019 05:07 Eywa- wrote: Idk, feels like you've slipped a bunch and you're reluctant to just tell people they're wrong when reading you. You on multiple occasions tiptoed around that either indicating you don't like the way you're being read or that you felt a read on you was justified (despite it being a mafia read) You also haven't provided much substance imo despite aggressively posting (I know, I'm the one talking...) Overall, I'm failing to see any reason to not lynch you. Hopefully this falls into the category of sufficient justification, because I won't be going into any of the scum theater, that's discussion for another day. Throw your vote down and stop saying how much you don't like my position, if you don't like it, put your vote where your mouth is. Yes maby I am to nice to people. Starting a game how is that bad? To me it seems like your taking easy town lynch because I CAN'T play the same every game. So just kill her. Maby I think about this wrong. Maby I just need to be assholes to everyone. But that is not who I am so I can't do it!! On July 03 2019 05:44 Eversince wrote: Show nested quote + On July 03 2019 05:41 Eversince wrote: On July 03 2019 05:31 Eywa- wrote: On July 03 2019 05:14 Eversince wrote: On July 03 2019 05:07 Eywa- wrote: Idk, feels like you've slipped a bunch and you're reluctant to just tell people they're wrong when reading you. You on multiple occasions tiptoed around that either indicating you don't like the way you're being read or that you felt a read on you was justified (despite it being a mafia read) You also haven't provided much substance imo despite aggressively posting (I know, I'm the one talking...) Overall, I'm failing to see any reason to not lynch you. Hopefully this falls into the category of sufficient justification, because I won't be going into any of the scum theater, that's discussion for another day. Throw your vote down and stop saying how much you don't like my position, if you don't like it, put your vote where your mouth is. Yes maby I am to nice to people. Starting a game how is that bad? To me it seems like your taking easy town lynch because I CAN'T play the same every game. So just kill her. Maby I think about this wrong. Maby I just need to be assholes to everyone. But that is not who I am so I can't do it!! Nah, your start to this game (basically your entire first page of game (not including pre-game) filter is:I start every town game with just spamming up the thread trying to talk to people! 1) trying to pocket Pandain Pocket Pandain? I've actively not wanted to scum read him for bad reasons. I already said I don't get his logic. I don't want to waste entire game waffling him again! 2) random town read on first player to post See above 3) trying to pocket Pandain Assume this is a repeat, see above 4) AtE I don't know what AtE means so I can respond here. There's some random comment about how you don't mind conversion (that was contradicted like 2-3 posts later - and then later escalated again). where? Overall, here's a summary... You're all over that AtE this game You're always coming back to Pandain mafia and claiming that his read on you is wrong... Well, if he's mafia... He's not wrong is he? He's just... Well, Mafia. Yes. But it makes no sense for t!ES to mud up the thread because Pandain is doing nothing so. You went through a phase of trying to name drop every player in the game, which lead to some reads escalating rather... Strangely. I went through a 'phase' of trying to recall thing on players I've played with for years. I owned up to were I made mistakes. You seem to be displaying a complete lack of understanding for why anyone is being read in certain ways rather than seeing things from their (town) perspective. That totally explains why I have a scum read on you right? I'm voting ES now, I'll be voting ES at end of day as well. Ok? I think? Basically to sum it up. I think it's trash to come in throw a vote on me. Doesn't explain anything. Leave.. Come back and respond with more useless crap because 'ES is mafia so ignore' Rinse repeat. I give Conv a little more room because at the point he did it wouldn't matter. I still think it's a iffy reason to vote but his vote is leading to nothing there. | ||
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On July 04 2019 04:13 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On July 04 2019 04:10 Eversince wrote: On July 03 2019 04:42 Eversince wrote: On July 03 2019 04:41 Eywa- wrote: On July 03 2019 04:40 Eversince wrote: So you're saying I'm an info lynch? I'm saying I think you're mafia. Make up your mind here. I'm mafia, RNG, and now back to mafia. Why? On July 03 2019 04:56 Eversince wrote: On July 03 2019 04:47 Eywa- wrote: On July 03 2019 04:42 Eversince wrote: On July 03 2019 04:41 Eywa- wrote: On July 03 2019 04:40 Eversince wrote: So you're saying I'm an info lynch? I'm saying I think you're mafia. Make up your mind here. I'm mafia, RNG, and now back to mafia. Why? No, I've always said you're mafia, a role which you obtained via RNG. Ok. That's the most bullshit reason ever! I'm sorry for the strong language but this crap everyone is m!ES reading me is total crap. You put a scum read on me BECAUSE FF RNG me mafia. If that is the entirety of your read that's just junk! There is so much else in the thread and adide from you evading Rayn you've done nothing. Literally trying to be around and engage with people again, get thread moving, explain my thoughts, own to mistakes, What in all of this makes you think I'm scum? Because I found it scummy Conv went after me for these reasons. I'm find it worst becuase you mia and then jump on these same reasons. On July 03 2019 05:01 Eversince wrote: On July 03 2019 05:00 Eywa- wrote: On July 03 2019 04:58 Eversince wrote: I apologies for the bad spelling btw. I'm so tired right now I could fall over.. I didn't through, I'm reading you as mafia because you're mafia by play. What IN my play has seemed scum to you? On July 03 2019 05:14 Eversince wrote: On July 03 2019 05:07 Eywa- wrote: Idk, feels like you've slipped a bunch and you're reluctant to just tell people they're wrong when reading you. You on multiple occasions tiptoed around that either indicating you don't like the way you're being read or that you felt a read on you was justified (despite it being a mafia read) You also haven't provided much substance imo despite aggressively posting (I know, I'm the one talking...) Overall, I'm failing to see any reason to not lynch you. Hopefully this falls into the category of sufficient justification, because I won't be going into any of the scum theater, that's discussion for another day. Throw your vote down and stop saying how much you don't like my position, if you don't like it, put your vote where your mouth is. Yes maby I am to nice to people. Starting a game how is that bad? To me it seems like your taking easy town lynch because I CAN'T play the same every game. So just kill her. Maby I think about this wrong. Maby I just need to be assholes to everyone. But that is not who I am so I can't do it!! On July 03 2019 05:44 Eversince wrote: On July 03 2019 05:41 Eversince wrote: On July 03 2019 05:31 Eywa- wrote: On July 03 2019 05:14 Eversince wrote: On July 03 2019 05:07 Eywa- wrote: Idk, feels like you've slipped a bunch and you're reluctant to just tell people they're wrong when reading you. You on multiple occasions tiptoed around that either indicating you don't like the way you're being read or that you felt a read on you was justified (despite it being a mafia read) You also haven't provided much substance imo despite aggressively posting (I know, I'm the one talking...) Overall, I'm failing to see any reason to not lynch you. Hopefully this falls into the category of sufficient justification, because I won't be going into any of the scum theater, that's discussion for another day. Throw your vote down and stop saying how much you don't like my position, if you don't like it, put your vote where your mouth is. Yes maby I am to nice to people. Starting a game how is that bad? To me it seems like your taking easy town lynch because I CAN'T play the same every game. So just kill her. Maby I think about this wrong. Maby I just need to be assholes to everyone. But that is not who I am so I can't do it!! Nah, your start to this game (basically your entire first page of game (not including pre-game) filter is:I start every town game with just spamming up the thread trying to talk to people! 1) trying to pocket Pandain Pocket Pandain? I've actively not wanted to scum read him for bad reasons. I already said I don't get his logic. I don't want to waste entire game waffling him again! 2) random town read on first player to post See above 3) trying to pocket Pandain Assume this is a repeat, see above 4) AtE I don't know what AtE means so I can respond here. There's some random comment about how you don't mind conversion (that was contradicted like 2-3 posts later - and then later escalated again). where? Overall, here's a summary... You're all over that AtE this game You're always coming back to Pandain mafia and claiming that his read on you is wrong... Well, if he's mafia... He's not wrong is he? He's just... Well, Mafia. Yes. But it makes no sense for t!ES to mud up the thread because Pandain is doing nothing so. You went through a phase of trying to name drop every player in the game, which lead to some reads escalating rather... Strangely. I went through a 'phase' of trying to recall thing on players I've played with for years. I owned up to were I made mistakes. You seem to be displaying a complete lack of understanding for why anyone is being read in certain ways rather than seeing things from their (town) perspective. That totally explains why I have a scum read on you right? I'm voting ES now, I'll be voting ES at end of day as well. Ok? I think? Basically to sum it up. I think it's trash to come in throw a vote on me. Doesn't explain anything. Leave.. Come back and respond with more useless crap because 'ES is mafia so ignore' Rinse repeat. I give Conv a little more room because at the point he did it wouldn't matter. I still think it's a iffy reason to vote but his vote is leading to nothing there. The first 2 quotes are Eywa trolling you. The last 2 quotes look like fine reasons to think you're mafia? Not in the context. I'm getting hate from everyone and trying to explain reason I do what I do. Pointing out obvious mistakes I've made here and trying to 'seem' useful while still doing nothing is just wrong. Basically she was 'kill ES it's easy' with no explanation to why. | ||
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On July 04 2019 04:14 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On July 04 2019 04:13 Holyflare wrote: On July 04 2019 04:10 Eversince wrote: On July 03 2019 04:42 Eversince wrote: On July 03 2019 04:41 Eywa- wrote: On July 03 2019 04:40 Eversince wrote: So you're saying I'm an info lynch? I'm saying I think you're mafia. Make up your mind here. I'm mafia, RNG, and now back to mafia. Why? On July 03 2019 04:56 Eversince wrote: On July 03 2019 04:47 Eywa- wrote: On July 03 2019 04:42 Eversince wrote: On July 03 2019 04:41 Eywa- wrote: On July 03 2019 04:40 Eversince wrote: So you're saying I'm an info lynch? I'm saying I think you're mafia. Make up your mind here. I'm mafia, RNG, and now back to mafia. Why? No, I've always said you're mafia, a role which you obtained via RNG. Ok. That's the most bullshit reason ever! I'm sorry for the strong language but this crap everyone is m!ES reading me is total crap. You put a scum read on me BECAUSE FF RNG me mafia. If that is the entirety of your read that's just junk! There is so much else in the thread and adide from you evading Rayn you've done nothing. Literally trying to be around and engage with people again, get thread moving, explain my thoughts, own to mistakes, What in all of this makes you think I'm scum? Because I found it scummy Conv went after me for these reasons. I'm find it worst becuase you mia and then jump on these same reasons. On July 03 2019 05:01 Eversince wrote: On July 03 2019 05:00 Eywa- wrote: On July 03 2019 04:58 Eversince wrote: I apologies for the bad spelling btw. I'm so tired right now I could fall over.. I didn't through, I'm reading you as mafia because you're mafia by play. What IN my play has seemed scum to you? On July 03 2019 05:14 Eversince wrote: On July 03 2019 05:07 Eywa- wrote: Idk, feels like you've slipped a bunch and you're reluctant to just tell people they're wrong when reading you. You on multiple occasions tiptoed around that either indicating you don't like the way you're being read or that you felt a read on you was justified (despite it being a mafia read) You also haven't provided much substance imo despite aggressively posting (I know, I'm the one talking...) Overall, I'm failing to see any reason to not lynch you. Hopefully this falls into the category of sufficient justification, because I won't be going into any of the scum theater, that's discussion for another day. Throw your vote down and stop saying how much you don't like my position, if you don't like it, put your vote where your mouth is. Yes maby I am to nice to people. Starting a game how is that bad? To me it seems like your taking easy town lynch because I CAN'T play the same every game. So just kill her. Maby I think about this wrong. Maby I just need to be assholes to everyone. But that is not who I am so I can't do it!! On July 03 2019 05:44 Eversince wrote: On July 03 2019 05:41 Eversince wrote: On July 03 2019 05:31 Eywa- wrote: On July 03 2019 05:14 Eversince wrote: On July 03 2019 05:07 Eywa- wrote: Idk, feels like you've slipped a bunch and you're reluctant to just tell people they're wrong when reading you. You on multiple occasions tiptoed around that either indicating you don't like the way you're being read or that you felt a read on you was justified (despite it being a mafia read) You also haven't provided much substance imo despite aggressively posting (I know, I'm the one talking...) Overall, I'm failing to see any reason to not lynch you. Hopefully this falls into the category of sufficient justification, because I won't be going into any of the scum theater, that's discussion for another day. Throw your vote down and stop saying how much you don't like my position, if you don't like it, put your vote where your mouth is. Yes maby I am to nice to people. Starting a game how is that bad? To me it seems like your taking easy town lynch because I CAN'T play the same every game. So just kill her. Maby I think about this wrong. Maby I just need to be assholes to everyone. But that is not who I am so I can't do it!! Nah, your start to this game (basically your entire first page of game (not including pre-game) filter is:I start every town game with just spamming up the thread trying to talk to people! 1) trying to pocket Pandain Pocket Pandain? I've actively not wanted to scum read him for bad reasons. I already said I don't get his logic. I don't want to waste entire game waffling him again! 2) random town read on first player to post See above 3) trying to pocket Pandain Assume this is a repeat, see above 4) AtE I don't know what AtE means so I can respond here. There's some random comment about how you don't mind conversion (that was contradicted like 2-3 posts later - and then later escalated again). where? Overall, here's a summary... You're all over that AtE this game You're always coming back to Pandain mafia and claiming that his read on you is wrong... Well, if he's mafia... He's not wrong is he? He's just... Well, Mafia. Yes. But it makes no sense for t!ES to mud up the thread because Pandain is doing nothing so. You went through a phase of trying to name drop every player in the game, which lead to some reads escalating rather... Strangely. I went through a 'phase' of trying to recall thing on players I've played with for years. I owned up to were I made mistakes. You seem to be displaying a complete lack of understanding for why anyone is being read in certain ways rather than seeing things from their (town) perspective. That totally explains why I have a scum read on you right? I'm voting ES now, I'll be voting ES at end of day as well. Ok? I think? Basically to sum it up. I think it's trash to come in throw a vote on me. Doesn't explain anything. Leave.. Come back and respond with more useless crap because 'ES is mafia so ignore' Rinse repeat. I give Conv a little more room because at the point he did it wouldn't matter. I still think it's a iffy reason to vote but his vote is leading to nothing there. The first 2 quotes are Eywa trolling you. The last 2 quotes look like fine reasons to think you're mafia? Do you not remember Eywa posting the exact same things in the last game as town? Yes but she's heartlessly throwing away a vote on me. It's for crap reasons so of course I'm going to fight off the side of a cliff. | ||
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On July 04 2019 04:19 Grackaroni wrote: Sorry Eversince but I am selfish and nobody is considering other lynches. It's ok. I hope you don't mind I do the same. I'm town so surviving is high on my list. I didn't want to lynch you yet though because I figured you'd play. | ||
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On July 04 2019 04:25 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On July 04 2019 04:24 Eversince wrote: On July 04 2019 04:19 Grackaroni wrote: Sorry Eversince but I am selfish and nobody is considering other lynches. It's ok. I hope you don't mind I do the same. I'm town so surviving is high on my list. I didn't want to lynch you yet though because I figured you'd play. THIS is my point exactly. WHY do you figure he'll just randomly play instead of being mafia?????????????? BUT THEN you say during the day "grack is being useless, maybe he's a good vote!"???????? Because he's FORCED to play as mafia. t!Grack doesn't care here and want to be useful so to AVOID this happening! Why so hard to understand? | ||
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On July 04 2019 04:28 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On July 04 2019 04:27 Eversince wrote: On July 04 2019 04:25 Holyflare wrote: On July 04 2019 04:24 Eversince wrote: On July 04 2019 04:19 Grackaroni wrote: Sorry Eversince but I am selfish and nobody is considering other lynches. It's ok. I hope you don't mind I do the same. I'm town so surviving is high on my list. I didn't want to lynch you yet though because I figured you'd play. THIS is my point exactly. WHY do you figure he'll just randomly play instead of being mafia?????????????? BUT THEN you say during the day "grack is being useless, maybe he's a good vote!"???????? Because he's FORCED to play as mafia. t!Grack doesn't care here and want to be useful so to AVOID this happening! Why so hard to understand? Then why did you say he's starting to be a good lynch for not playing??? Sheesh do I ned to go over this again? I had multiple page over the reasons I didn't want to lynch Grack yet. | ||
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On July 04 2019 04:42 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On July 04 2019 04:30 Eversince wrote: On July 04 2019 04:28 Holyflare wrote: On July 04 2019 04:27 Eversince wrote: On July 04 2019 04:25 Holyflare wrote: On July 04 2019 04:24 Eversince wrote: On July 04 2019 04:19 Grackaroni wrote: Sorry Eversince but I am selfish and nobody is considering other lynches. It's ok. I hope you don't mind I do the same. I'm town so surviving is high on my list. I didn't want to lynch you yet though because I figured you'd play. THIS is my point exactly. WHY do you figure he'll just randomly play instead of being mafia?????????????? BUT THEN you say during the day "grack is being useless, maybe he's a good vote!"???????? Because he's FORCED to play as mafia. t!Grack doesn't care here and want to be useful so to AVOID this happening! Why so hard to understand? Then why did you say he's starting to be a good lynch for not playing??? Sheesh do I ned to go over this again? I had multiple page over the reasons I didn't want to lynch Grack yet. Let me make this really blunt because I think you're essentially confirmed mafia now. You have said that Grack does the following things: A) As mafia he is PRESENT in the thread and CONTROLS it through his actions. B) As town he is AFK and then comes back and makes MEANINGFUL posts. You town read Grack for B. Grack CONTINUED to do B and you then changed your read to "If he doesn't contribute then he's mafia" which goes against your meta read of Grack being mafia (A). I think you made this entirely up and saw that Grack was a counter wagon and then eroded your meta read to give you the option of looking like you're evaluating him but you failed because it's a direct contradiction. This is all bullshit HF! I'm so tired of fighting but ok let's do this dance. I've REPEATEDLY said I THINK Grack can mia/ or not as EITHER alignment! This is not a reason to lynch Grack over more possible mafia ever. You continue to hate on me for it. Which I'm starting to worry about. More worrying that you say I "made it up" when I've been hard defending Grack literally all D1. | ||
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On July 04 2019 04:47 Conversion wrote: gg all! GG Conv, sorry for my bad read! | ||
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On July 04 2019 04:51 Holyflare wrote: I will wait. No. If you are too lazy to filter me that's not making me mafia. But it might mean you are. | ||
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On July 04 2019 04:51 Holyflare wrote: I will wait. No. If you are too lazy to filter me that's not making me mafia. But it might mean you are. | ||
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On July 02 2019 13:26 Eversince wrote: I think Grack is just being usual Grack again. Rayn finding it weird Truffles would read me t!ES is fine for prior reasons. I think they are wrong though. On July 02 2019 13:44 Eversince wrote: I think your point about both are fine. Rayn generally will push hard, but not get irate with you, if he thinks your doing something. If he isn't sure he's not going to try to put you on a stick and burn you. The problem with Conversion is that he came in, rehashed a valid point, ignored the rest of the thread and left. Grack's just a special one. He's got a funny personal attitude. I'm not wanting to lynch him today. He'll pick up and engage like he did last game or then we can lynch. But he's not trying to move us anywhere. Which is trash town play. But m!Grack wants to lead town to do stupid things. On July 02 2019 16:12 Eversince wrote: Show nested quote + On July 02 2019 16:04 raynpelikoneet wrote: On July 02 2019 15:39 Eversince wrote: On July 02 2019 15:35 raynpelikoneet wrote: On July 02 2019 13:44 Eversince wrote: But m!Grack wants to lead town to do stupid things. Can you give some examples of this that happened lately? Actually no. I was reference a point that anyone mafia in that position would do that. I could go filter Gracks past games but that seems real petty! If you did filter them you'd find that last game grack bussed his teammate to death d1 and another one on n2. Which is why i was wondering where you got that sentiment. I dont really understand whhat yourw saying here and how that relates to whatever grack has or hasnt done this game? I'm going off memory (not reliable). Any mafia would want to try to change thread sentiment. Grack did nothing.. Even on your example.. if he bussed his whole team he still did something. Was my point. t!Grack doesn't care m!Grack does something (if that's true he just killed his whole team)! What game is it though? I'll filter him to try to see. On July 02 2019 16:15 Eversince wrote: Assuming Grack is mafia where is he taking that Pand? Just throwing shadows? I'll agree he's been useless but last game was the same. Most I've played with him he's been in-active then picks up and is semi useful. On July 02 2019 18:02 Eversince wrote: Show nested quote + On July 02 2019 17:56 raynpelikoneet wrote: On July 02 2019 17:27 Eversince wrote: On July 02 2019 17:22 raynpelikoneet wrote: On July 02 2019 16:04 raynpelikoneet wrote: On July 02 2019 15:39 Eversince wrote: On July 02 2019 15:35 raynpelikoneet wrote: On July 02 2019 13:44 Eversince wrote: But m!Grack wants to lead town to do stupid things. Can you give some examples of this that happened lately? Actually no. I was reference a point that anyone mafia in that position would do that. I could go filter Gracks past games but that seems real petty! If you did filter them you'd find that last game grack bussed his teammate to death d1 and another one on n2. Which is why i was wondering where you got that sentiment. I dont really understand whhat yourw saying here and how that relates to whatever grack has or hasnt done this game? On July 02 2019 16:12 Eversince wrote: On July 02 2019 16:04 raynpelikoneet wrote: On July 02 2019 15:39 Eversince wrote: On July 02 2019 15:35 raynpelikoneet wrote: On July 02 2019 13:44 Eversince wrote: But m!Grack wants to lead town to do stupid things. Can you give some examples of this that happened lately? Actually no. I was reference a point that anyone mafia in that position would do that. I could go filter Gracks past games but that seems real petty! If you did filter them you'd find that last game grack bussed his teammate to death d1 and another one on n2. Which is why i was wondering where you got that sentiment. I dont really understand whhat yourw saying here and how that relates to whatever grack has or hasnt done this game? I'm going off memory (not reliable). Any mafia would want to try to change thread sentiment. Grack did nothing.. Even on your example.. if he bussed his whole team he still did something. Was my point. t!Grack doesn't care m!Grack does something (if that's true he just killed his whole team)! What game is it though? I'll filter him to try to see. Why does grack necessarily want to change thread sentiment about 4hrs and a total of 1 townread in thread into the game? Why is it more scummy to want to do something than not do anything? Exactly, m!Grack makes no sense to me there because he just mia off. Nothing happens that early. You either try to be active and start the thread or just mia. Which he did. Or you try to get groundwork into looking town (Which he didn't). Showing up and being general useless doesn't make any sense as town or mafia. But Grack is flighty, tends to put a hell of a lot more effort late D1/D2. I don't like him continuing to be useless but I made post on this already. If he's still useless day 2 we can just lynch him but standard Grack play is standard Grack. On July 02 2019 18:26 Eversince wrote: Show nested quote + On July 02 2019 18:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: Do you, ES, think that grack is self-aware of his meta to some extent? He's been playing since I joined this site so I'm sure yes. Probably uses it to advantage as scum, why I think he's not worth the lynch now but later? Sure. @Jock I'll go filter that game and brainstorm. On July 03 2019 00:32 Eversince wrote: Show nested quote + On July 03 2019 00:25 raynpelikoneet wrote: On July 03 2019 00:23 Eversince wrote: Sorry, took a nap! I'm back now though! who made the above post then? :O Guilty as charged! I'm just reading up thread and trying to make conclusions. Your Pand point makes sense but why would m!Pand point it out? He did vote me but he didn't push for it. m!Pand here would want to start a wagon? Oh crap, I think that happened though! No one seems to like me ![]() Also you sum my Grack points back up yourself. He could be mafia, but he could be t!Grack here and not giving a darn. I don't like to lynch town. On July 03 2019 00:42 Eversince wrote: @Rayn He doesn't but it could be either m!Grack/t!Grack. I'm saying we lynch most likely mafia over him. Because Grack playstyle make it hard to tell if he's m!Grack yet because his town play looks the same D1. On July 03 2019 00:47 Eversince wrote: .......I'm getting annoyed with answering this! It's all over my filter! I think Grack could play his inactive self d1 as either mafia!Grack or town!Grack. I give him the pass today because I know this about him. I would still lynch but I think it's not worth our votes with better options I'm only 1/3 into my filter but do I need to continue? 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On July 04 2019 05:15 Eywa- wrote: I'm more talking about Jock & Pandain jumping in to defend you. Now, especially if you are actually town, our situation is MUCH worse than before. And I don't believe you are town (which is part of the predicament we find ourselves in when you are helped out of a situation by other people rather than by your own argument. If you're mafia, well, this is a minor set back. How is any of this really? m!Jock makes no sense defending m!ES. m!Pandain makes no sense. Either one couldn't move the vote anyway. If anything it means Truffles/ES team. | ||
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On July 04 2019 05:16 Eywa- wrote: No Well that's helpful :/! | ||
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On July 04 2019 05:33 Eywa- wrote: Show nested quote + On July 04 2019 05:32 Eversince wrote: Ok! -Lets talk random game tactics instead of trying to find scum- Eywa 2019 Or we can all ask the global town read questions Or you can I guess, be useful, contribute. | ||
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On July 04 2019 06:27 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On July 04 2019 06:11 Eywa- wrote: I think #116 & #117 is a hard slip to be honest, when trfl asks about ES' reads, she makes up a read on Conversion which contradicts what she said about conversions in #104. That's a quick conversion from conversion is fine to conversion is bleh. wow that's really correct lol the points why conversion changes to bleh is that he pointed out good points but didn't comment on the rest of the game too which shouldn't make him bleh at all..... Why is me thinking what I did then make me scum? I'm sorry t!Conv died but that wasn't the reason here. Your trying to real hard to put a mafia poster on me. Which t!ES never gets shot tonight because easy mislynch. | ||
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On July 04 2019 07:15 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On July 04 2019 07:12 Eversince wrote: On July 04 2019 06:27 Holyflare wrote: On July 04 2019 06:11 Eywa- wrote: I think #116 & #117 is a hard slip to be honest, when trfl asks about ES' reads, she makes up a read on Conversion which contradicts what she said about conversions in #104. That's a quick conversion from conversion is fine to conversion is bleh. wow that's really correct lol the points why conversion changes to bleh is that he pointed out good points but didn't comment on the rest of the game too which shouldn't make him bleh at all..... Why is me thinking what I did then make me scum? I'm sorry t!Conv died but that wasn't the reason here. Your trying to real hard to put a mafia poster on me. Which t!ES never gets shot tonight because easy mislynch. I don't know why you're asking me when Eywa is the one pointing it out but it's quite simple. You first said that Conversion's entrance was fine and then somehow you've completely changed your point of view to it's not fine. Not only is that a contradiction but your points for calling it not fine are that the points Conversion raised were GOOD points and well reasoned so you shouldn't be changing your mind to Conversion being bleh because of that, it just seems like baseless posturing. I'm asking you because you can kill me. I don't know if Eywa can and I've made my thoughts on her transparent enough anyone can see my logic. I think your whole argument HF is trash. Yet here we are still dancing around it. | ||
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On July 04 2019 07:46 Holyflare wrote: After all that's what you did at the deadline BEFORE you even knew exactly what my argument was lol. Throwing out a line here then. What was it? | ||
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I still don't like Eywa for reasons I've already said. Pand is questionable. I haven't been bothered by Truffles. Grack I've spent a lot of time into talking about. Still stand. Jock is ok. | ||
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On July 04 2019 07:52 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On July 04 2019 03:28 Eversince wrote: On July 04 2019 03:24 Holyflare wrote: On July 04 2019 03:22 raynpelikoneet wrote: On July 03 2019 23:32 Holyflare wrote: On July 03 2019 23:19 Trfel wrote: On July 03 2019 01:09 Eversince wrote: @Raynpelikoneet, is the bolded the thing you are using to scumread Eversince?And I've played with HF a few times over the years. He's stupid good mafia player. If he's town he'll figure things out! Go look at his massive list of games to look. Like he can be wrong but mafia almost always shoot into the vets on this site (HF/Rayn/Marv etc..etc.) Because to me, Eversince is saying here that Holyflare is good at mafia as a game, not as an alignment. She also clarified that she meant I'm good at mafia rather than the mafia alignment. I know she did but do you believe that's the truth? I don't. Yeah because why would she say I'm good as mafia and simultaneously say I'm afk as mafia? She wouldn't. My points were about something completely different though and I don't think they're as awful as pandain and jock make them out to be. Summarize for me. because I thought your points against me where crap. This literally happened. [red]I called your meta read on me crap and voted on you.[/red You backtracked and said, yeah, you got it wrong. You said I was correct to not like you because of it. I said many other points after this. You enter the thread and say "summarise for me because I thought your points against me were crap". You then just say my points are the meta read against you and that's it but you already said those were fine. So, not only did you not know why I was actually scum reading you at that point but on top of that you've changed your point of view on the meta read points too! Now you're coming back into the thread saying you don't know if I'm scum or not because the points against you are, yet again, crap but you never ever address them AGAIN. You tell me to just read your filter because it's all there but guess what, that's exactly what you're going to have to do to my filter now because it's all in there for you to read and comment on. Solve the game, prove me wrong and that you're town. Don't just needlessly pander to people. I am not lynching eywa and don't think I ever will and don't really think they're mafia so you're barking up the wrong tree here. Who else is mafia? Rayn please.. Then I try to talk with HF to see if m!HF is just pushing off on easy ES lynch. I like his responses though so I don't think he's mafia for it. | ||
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On July 04 2019 07:52 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On July 04 2019 03:28 Eversince wrote: On July 04 2019 03:24 Holyflare wrote: On July 04 2019 03:22 raynpelikoneet wrote: On July 03 2019 23:32 Holyflare wrote: On July 03 2019 23:19 Trfel wrote: On July 03 2019 01:09 Eversince wrote: @Raynpelikoneet, is the bolded the thing you are using to scumread Eversince?And I've played with HF a few times over the years. He's stupid good mafia player. If he's town he'll figure things out! Go look at his massive list of games to look. Like he can be wrong but mafia almost always shoot into the vets on this site (HF/Rayn/Marv etc..etc.) Because to me, Eversince is saying here that Holyflare is good at mafia as a game, not as an alignment. She also clarified that she meant I'm good at mafia rather than the mafia alignment. I know she did but do you believe that's the truth? I don't. Yeah because why would she say I'm good as mafia and simultaneously say I'm afk as mafia? She wouldn't. My points were about something completely different though and I don't think they're as awful as pandain and jock make them out to be. Summarize for me. because I thought your points against me where crap. This literally happened. I called your meta read on me crap and voted on you. You backtracked and said, yeah, you got it wrong. You said I was correct to not like you because of it. I said many other points after this. You enter the thread and say "summarise for me because I thought your points against me were crap". You then just say my points are the meta read against you and that's it but you already said those were fine. So, not only did you not know why I was actually scum reading you at that point but on top of that you've changed your point of view on the meta read points too! Now you're coming back into the thread saying you don't know if I'm scum or not because the points against you are, yet again, crap but you never ever address them AGAIN. You tell me to just read your filter because it's all there but guess what, that's exactly what you're going to have to do to my filter now because it's all in there for you to read and comment on. Solve the game, prove me wrong and that you're town. Don't just needlessly pander to people. I am not lynching eywa and don't think I ever will and don't really think they're mafia so you're barking up the wrong tree here. Who else is mafia? Rayn please.. Then I try to talk with HF to see if m!HF is just pushing off on easy ES lynch. I like his responses though so I don't think he's mafia for it. EBWOP one of these days I'm get this right! | ||
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On July 04 2019 15:05 Trfel wrote: I have come to the shocking conclusion that I have absolutely no idea what is happening this game. I'll attempt to rethink everything. I still think Jockmcplop and raynpelikoneet are town though. If anyone wants to talk about stuff with me feel free, I'll be busy tomorrow given that it's a holiday but before the next lynch hopefully I'll be slightly less clueless ![]() I'm at work but it's slow so I can probably talk. | ||
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On July 04 2019 15:26 Trfel wrote: What do you think of Holyflare? I can never read him to save my life, he could convince me to jump off a cliff ![]() I haven't really seen a ton of notable (in terms of figuring out his alignment) stuff from him, I just feel like he's started to become really manipulative since the deadline and that scares me. I didn't feel a lot of thread presence/control from him before End of Day, it felt like he kinda let it happen, and then it feels like he's been playing off of guilt ever since (pun not intended). But really I have no clue ![]() I actually liked his reasoning. | ||
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On July 04 2019 14:09 Eversince wrote: I was curious because m!HF can push t!ES there super easy. He was early but didn't vote me until later. I thought it was opportunistic! I had a meta read on HF (That I'm lynch with fire yesterday), wasn't ENITRELY wrong to have though becauses here HF playing townie! I get why he would not like my meta read when I can't prove it. I wanted to make sure m!HF isn't pushing easy town lynch. So I talked to him. He still wants to lynch me and I feel like his reason is crap but I think it's more likely t!HF here is trying to reach for straws than m!HF kill the easiest town! I get how he got there and I felt for a second there he wash pushing on me for easy reasons..That's why I said I don't think it's coming from m!HF but you can't say his read there isn't weak in reasons. To explain!! | ||
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HF is just trying to figure thing out there. I just eventually said 'screw this!' and moved on because I don't actually think HF is mafia for it. | ||
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July 04 2019 10:44 GMT
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I just skim the thread but these guys (I edit out personal pictures here post game!) (oldish because I'm really not comfortable sharing personal info like this online [also I can't seems to get the image links to work but that's probably for the best as it keeps thread clean.]) mean a hell of a lot to more than this game does. Also I will never lie about activity EVER!! I think I mention something about this before. I think this whole fight is town on town though so bleh. I'm not home yet but I'll try to be around if anyone is about when I get home! | ||
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July 04 2019 11:53 GMT
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Ewya is still scummy for stuff I said before. but w/e let's look at the game. Rayn not having a read on me yet is starting to worry me. t!Rayn could be waffled here but m!Rayn would just want free point when t!ES lynched Conv the parity cop. | ||
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July 04 2019 11:55 GMT
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July 04 2019 12:32 GMT
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On July 04 2019 21:24 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On July 04 2019 21:20 Pandain wrote: On July 04 2019 21:19 Jockmcplop wrote: Mafia won't shoot me surely. I couldn't have had a dumber day 1 if i'd tried. But most people think you're town. and you are against an ES lynch which mafia would love to happen day 2. And if HF ends up being mafia you're not even playing that poorly considering he was your #1 scum read. A) She's not town B) You think grack is mafia with me but he doesn't even want to lynch ES and actively joined the wagon with YOU guys to lynch conversion so why is it mafia's plan to lynch ES when there are only 2 mafia and for some reason you think their plan goes against 50% of their team's strategy? Why is mafia plan to bus d1 in a 7vs2? We want to lose? | ||
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On July 04 2019 21:31 Holyflare wrote: Unless the only thing you're talking about is your really really awful logic point of why does ES not vote Grack WHO YOU THINK IS MAFIA over anyone else. Why does m!ES hard stand against the only other wagon against her?! I literally die here and town is 1 down. m!ES never plays that way so I know you can't prove it. | ||
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July 04 2019 12:57 GMT
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On July 04 2019 21:40 Eywa- wrote: Show nested quote + On July 04 2019 21:38 Eversince wrote: On July 04 2019 21:31 Holyflare wrote: Unless the only thing you're talking about is your really really awful logic point of why does ES not vote Grack WHO YOU THINK IS MAFIA over anyone else. Why does m!ES hard stand against the only other wagon against her?! I literally die here and town is 1 down. m!ES never plays that way so I know you can't prove it. 1) Because you wanted to town tell 2) Because Grack is also mafia 3) Because you didn't actually think Grack would get lynched I mean... Stop playing this "Why would I do this" game. It's generally anti-town. m!ES literally dies here. So me wanting to 'town tell' is bleh! m!ES just gets lynched and then game moves on. I kind of agree with you on Grack, but how exactly was Grack not an option? He was literally the counter wagon. So you think Grack/ES mafia team and we just outed ourselves d1 so early (by me hard defending him) just because? | ||
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July 04 2019 12:59 GMT
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I already said what I felt on Conv, and I'm not mafia so I 1)lynched into my scum reads 2)saved t!ES. | ||
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July 04 2019 13:08 GMT
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On July 04 2019 22:01 raynpelikoneet wrote: Show nested quote + On July 04 2019 21:59 Eversince wrote: Converstion came from no where because HF wanted a wagon people would be happy with. I already said what I felt on Conv, and I'm not mafia so I 1)lynched into my scum reads 2)saved t!ES. shut up already HF had NOTHING to do with lynching Conversion. Know what I think that is fair. I'm confusing points again. I filtered HF again and can't a darn thing about it. Man I'm just get myself mislynched this game ![]() | ||
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July 04 2019 13:17 GMT
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Then I prodded you to talk, you scum me for that too. But I did it because I could see m!HF trying to kill the t!ES that has a lot of pressure and is going to drop like a stone Friday. I felt better after our conversations though. I don't really agree with what you think but I could see how you made it there.Now you're saying I don't even understand so it's back to 'let's start a storm with ES so I can make her look scum'. | ||
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July 04 2019 13:20 GMT
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On July 04 2019 22:19 Jockmcplop wrote: I only ask because the last time you mentioned him you said you could lynch him but then a few minutes later said you didn't think he was mafia so I'm just trying to get straight on where you are on that. Woahhhh where was this?? I completely miss it! | ||
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July 04 2019 13:34 GMT
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July 04 2019 13:53 GMT
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On July 04 2019 22:47 Eywa- wrote: Show nested quote + On July 04 2019 22:40 Holyflare wrote: Eywa talk me through why it's ES into lynching me in your lynch order? I never lynch you if ES flips mafia and I thought there was a decent chance ES would flip mafia. Everything she's posting now seems like a lie / blatant misunderstanding, yet tone seems townie which goes back to what I was saying about someone under pressure... It's absolutely pointless. I'm sticking to the early reads, when she wasn't under pressure when Truffle asked her a question early on an she completely 180 on Conversion because she needed a scum/null read. The early game felt so forced... It's almost like a caricature of her town meta which she repeatedly indicates she's aware of. For you, I think you're coming across almost as informed more than anything. (in comparison to your town game) So we're going back to you'll lynch me because you think I'm mafia? You'll ignore the m!HF (you world) who is 'informed' (TMI) But I'm the better lynch? What?! | ||
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I post on Conv (very obvious wrong) I post on Eywa (still think these are very valid) I've prodded on HF because I wasn't sure about why he did what he did. I've prodded at everyone in the game to actually play the game so I could develop reads.. Come up with another reason. Are you just scum Rayn? Because me calling you at this point feels OMGUS and I don't see how you fit in any m!team but you're being so dense it's going to make me cry! | ||
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July 04 2019 14:15 GMT
#1125
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Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 04 2019 14:18 GMT
#1127
On July 04 2019 23:14 Eywa- wrote: I'm making the most valid points, no one is agreeing with me, but I'm still voting in the majority. If no one is agreeing with you.. you're obviously not making the most valid point. Or we're all just trash. I don't think we're all trash. | ||
Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 04 2019 14:21 GMT
#1129
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Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 04 2019 14:39 GMT
#1133
Eywa looks really mafia to me. Pandain I'm waffling as usual. Grack is still being entirely useless, worrying now. Rayn being super dense, but I think it's more probable here it's t!Rayn just being stupid. HF same as Rayn points. Truffles still seems fine to me. Jock still seems fine to me. I'm be about for a little bit longer then crash.. | ||
Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 04 2019 15:32 GMT
#1137
On July 04 2019 23:42 raynpelikoneet wrote: Show nested quote + On July 04 2019 13:55 raynpelikoneet wrote: On July 04 2019 13:32 Eversince wrote: On July 04 2019 07:52 Holyflare wrote: On July 04 2019 03:28 Eversince wrote: On July 04 2019 03:24 Holyflare wrote: On July 04 2019 03:22 raynpelikoneet wrote: On July 03 2019 23:32 Holyflare wrote: On July 03 2019 23:19 Trfel wrote: On July 03 2019 01:09 Eversince wrote: @Raynpelikoneet, is the bolded the thing you are using to scumread Eversince?And I've played with HF a few times over the years. He's stupid good mafia player. If he's town he'll figure things out! Go look at his massive list of games to look. Like he can be wrong but mafia almost always shoot into the vets on this site (HF/Rayn/Marv etc..etc.) Because to me, Eversince is saying here that Holyflare is good at mafia as a game, not as an alignment. She also clarified that she meant I'm good at mafia rather than the mafia alignment. I know she did but do you believe that's the truth? I don't. Yeah because why would she say I'm good as mafia and simultaneously say I'm afk as mafia? She wouldn't. My points were about something completely different though and I don't think they're as awful as pandain and jock make them out to be. Summarize for me. because I thought your points against me where crap. This literally happened. I called your meta read on me crap and voted on you. You backtracked and said, yeah, you got it wrong. You said I was correct to not like you because of it. I said many other points after this. You enter the thread and say "summarise for me because I thought your points against me were crap". You then just say my points are the meta read against you and that's it but you already said those were fine. So, not only did you not know why I was actually scum reading you at that point but on top of that you've changed your point of view on the meta read points too! Now you're coming back into the thread saying you don't know if I'm scum or not because the points against you are, yet again, crap but you never ever address them AGAIN. You tell me to just read your filter because it's all there but guess what, that's exactly what you're going to have to do to my filter now because it's all in there for you to read and comment on. Solve the game, prove me wrong and that you're town. Don't just needlessly pander to people. I am not lynching eywa and don't think I ever will and don't really think they're mafia so you're barking up the wrong tree here. Who else is mafia? Rayn please.. Then I try to talk with HF to see if m!HF is just pushing off on easy ES lynch. I like his responses though so I don't think he's mafia for it. EBWOP one of these days I'm get this right! In simple words, HF is saying you agreed with his initial read. Which is what you did. Now youre saying hf might be mafia because his points were crap. By your own definition its impossible you think that unless you providr some new evidence for your change of mind, which you havent. I had a serious issue thinking MABY m!HFsaw easy problem in t!ES, go lynch her! I'm crazy easy to mis-understand and the fact you scum read me proves it because out of every player on this dang list you should know me best. Unless HTS is smurfing but I think that's not the case! Me and hf both have said you had a strong town read on grack based on things X just to say later that grack could do things X as either alignment. One of those things has to be a lie because nowhere in your filter you provide anything that i see should be changing your mind. I have REPEATELY said I think Gracks play at that point was more NAI so we lynch better targets. Idc about what i said about your comment on hf. Noone is going to get what i am saying or why i think it comes ftom mafia!ES perspective so whatever. Noone got why i scumread shapelog last game. So i cba with that, theres more evidence anyways. I have yet to check what eywas point on you is reharding conversion, but it most likely will make sense since hf agrees it makes sense and hf as either alignment doesnt agrer with stuff that dont make sense course it will. t!ES is miss lynch #` and Eywa is mafia. . | ||
Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 04 2019 15:38 GMT
#1138
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Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 04 2019 16:02 GMT
#1141
I'm not saying Grack is town. I'm saying both m!/t!Grack both play that way! I gave HF the same reasons and now he's shown he can play. HF at least comes in and tries to change my mind when I engage. This is not a hard process!! | ||
Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 04 2019 16:04 GMT
#1142
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Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 04 2019 16:12 GMT
#1145
Me saying there are better lynches and not wanting to go for him is bleh. | ||
Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 04 2019 16:13 GMT
#1146
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Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 04 2019 16:16 GMT
#1148
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Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 04 2019 16:18 GMT
#1149
On July 05 2019 01:14 raynpelikoneet wrote: Like i find it amusing that first you and then grack call it trash. Because even if it is wrong it is not trash. I am on board with HF to lynch the shit out of this and i think everyone disagreeing are either idiots or mafia. But it was stupid to point to there Rayn like.... did the mafia team just out entire team? For no freaking reason? I'm dense so help me out here! | ||
Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 04 2019 16:28 GMT
#1152
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Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 04 2019 16:33 GMT
#1155
On July 05 2019 01:32 raynpelikoneet wrote: Show nested quote + On July 05 2019 01:28 Eversince wrote: What specifically do you want answered Rayn? why did you say grack is town because he is mia (meta), then continuously hard-defend him (emphasis on HARD-DEFEND) based on meta, just to later on say grack's play can be both town or mafia? I've literally never said Gracks play has made him town! All of my post was saying coming for Grack it's NAI at this point! | ||
Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 04 2019 16:41 GMT
#1159
On July 05 2019 01:34 raynpelikoneet wrote: I even pointed out two of those posts. Those two post (which I already reply too) are me saying Gracks useless. But here could be t!Grack or m!Grack. Why do I need to keep rehashing this?? Like my filter it filled with tons of post on Grack. And I've always said it was 'Grack will be useful or lynch him!'. I seriously don't get what your trying to do here. | ||
Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 04 2019 17:54 GMT
#1163
Your misconstruing everything I say to fit your narrative. I have problems with that. I'll address those tomorrow when I'm not dead on my feet. | ||
Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 04 2019 19:27 GMT
#1185
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Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 04 2019 19:32 GMT
#1189
On July 05 2019 02:01 raynpelikoneet wrote: Show nested quote + On July 05 2019 01:33 Eversince wrote: All of my post was saying coming for Grack it's NAI at this point! Show nested quote + I'm not wanting to lynch him today. He'll pick up and engage like he did last game or then we can lynch. But he's not trying to move us anywhere. Which is trash town play. But m!Grack wants to lead town to do stupid things. = town read, you can claim whatever you want here but that's a fucking town read. unless you're lying in that post. Show nested quote + Even on your example.. if he bussed his whole team he still did something. Was my point. t!Grack doesn't care m!Grack does something (if that's true he just killed his whole team)! = town read, i questioned your post you gave more reasoning why grack is not mafia in this game. I can find more, dare me. But all of your posts are Grack is NAI? rly? You can not say I'm saying Grack is town here. I never said that period . Go find them then! I'm tired of people scum reading me for some trash reason. If they are NOT trash then I want to know about them anyway so I can decide. | ||
Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 05 2019 04:38 GMT
#1221
On July 05 2019 11:44 Eywa- wrote: Seems likely. Grack NK is interesting. It suggests someone who doesn't know Holy Flare is about to die is happy with the current balance of the game... Which would have been 4-3 in favor of the group on the counter wagon. HF flipping town confirms that there is at least 1 mafia on the counter wagon (and my guess given the strength of the wagon - probably 2). So guaranteed 1 mafia among Jock Truffle Eversince And 1 mafia among Jock Truffle Eversince Rayn Everyone has AT worst a 50% chance of hitting today by shooting inside Jock/truffle/eversince. I think all three of them should throw their votes before we decide. So me and my partner outed to save m!ES who's hated by like... everyone? Mafia either just busses m!ES there or they don't. It's obviously just town shenanigans! | ||
Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 05 2019 04:46 GMT
#1222
I never voted for him. People were like 'meh' And HF decided to start Conv lynch. I was happy with Conv lynch and even more pressed to to do it so town didn't get mislynch. Either you're saying HF is scum, your scum or Grack is scum.. The votes make no sense in a world where m!ES up for lynch t!Grack up for lynch, m!ES decides to die. Conv becomes thing, mafia throw both there votes there and just out the darn team. This would be the worst scum play ever! | ||
Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 05 2019 04:49 GMT
#1223
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Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 05 2019 04:52 GMT
#1224
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Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 05 2019 05:27 GMT
#1226
Grack I'm starting to have real issues with for reasons I've rehash a infinite # of times. I'm still waffling on Pandain. but given other options I'm more still just ignore so I don't mud up the thread than anything else. HF made gave me real weird vibes but we talked and I actually liked his reasoning so -shrug- Jock still seems ok to me. | ||
Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 05 2019 05:29 GMT
#1227
On July 05 2019 14:27 Eversince wrote: Eywa looks terrible. Grack I'm starting to have real issues with for reasons I've rehash a infinite # of times. I'm still waffling on Pandain. but given other options I'm more still just ignore so I don't mud up the thread than anything else. HF made gave me real weird vibes but we talked and I actually liked his reasoning so -shrug-edit: even if I think he's still wrong! Jock still seems ok to me. | ||
Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 05 2019 05:35 GMT
#1230
Where did Pandain claim vig? I must of miss. Rayn pushing at me is also weird but I would think m!Rayn here would have just lynched me d1. More misguided town to me atm. | ||
Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 05 2019 05:38 GMT
#1231
I'm tumbling this game so bad ![]() | ||
Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 05 2019 05:41 GMT
#1234
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Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 05 2019 05:41 GMT
#1235
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Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 05 2019 05:42 GMT
#1236
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Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 05 2019 05:49 GMT
#1239
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Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 05 2019 05:56 GMT
#1241
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Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 05 2019 06:06 GMT
#1244
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Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 05 2019 06:11 GMT
#1246
On July 05 2019 14:59 Trfel wrote: Show nested quote + Right, forgot about that.. probably best not to no lynch then.On July 05 2019 14:56 Eversince wrote: Meh, it's ok I think. I get your logic. We are going to lose if I don't die anyway because I lose hotspot tomorrow and people will waffle me to the end of time. Well personally I'd rather not go down without a fight, I hope you agree? For the sake of the game more than anything, or this would be a pretty lame one. So if you are town, and to be honest I still kinda think you are for some reason, if you could show that you are town before losing your hotspot that would be great? Ideally by demonstrating who is mafia. How is not voting in MYLO the best option here? We lose. | ||
Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 05 2019 06:12 GMT
#1247
On July 05 2019 15:11 Jockmcplop wrote: So I've got: trfel + es vs rayn + pandain at the moment, right? Nah friend. I think Truffles is right no way 2 mafia get 2 kp so Pandain is probably vig unless someone counters. | ||
Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 05 2019 06:15 GMT
#1251
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Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 05 2019 06:19 GMT
#1253
Why does mafia Truffles/ES hard bus for no reason d1? | ||
Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 05 2019 06:27 GMT
#1260
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Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 05 2019 06:28 GMT
#1261
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Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 05 2019 06:31 GMT
#1264
On July 05 2019 15:29 Jockmcplop wrote: Show nested quote + On July 05 2019 15:27 Eversince wrote: Ugh. I'm waffling so hard on this game again. We should just lynch Eywa. Her points on me were crap! Then she came back to thread to say she wasn't going to elaborate them! Obviously most scummy player in the thread right now.. I've had a nightmare game wrong about everything. Before my brain fart this morning I was thinking Eywa/rayn for possible scum team. They can't be scum together I'm still alive! | ||
Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 05 2019 06:33 GMT
#1265
On July 05 2019 15:30 Jockmcplop wrote: Show nested quote + On July 05 2019 15:28 Eversince wrote: Jock's whole exchange here was for stupid reasons. I don't see why m!Jock does it though.. It was stupid sorry, but to be fair its 7 in the morning before work and my brain isn't working yet. I just forgot eywa existed for a minute (sorry eywa) It's ok Jock, I saw your reasoning. I spent the first 6 hours after a nap in my backhoe filling a hole in my yard. I get it I was braindead too. | ||
Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 05 2019 06:40 GMT
#1269
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Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 05 2019 06:41 GMT
#1270
On July 05 2019 15:33 Jockmcplop wrote: Show nested quote + On July 05 2019 15:31 Eversince wrote: On July 05 2019 15:29 Jockmcplop wrote: On July 05 2019 15:27 Eversince wrote: Ugh. I'm waffling so hard on this game again. We should just lynch Eywa. Her points on me were crap! Then she came back to thread to say she wasn't going to elaborate them! Obviously most scummy player in the thread right now.. I've had a nightmare game wrong about everything. Before my brain fart this morning I was thinking Eywa/rayn for possible scum team. They can't be scum together I'm still alive! What does this mean? Of course you can, they just failed to mislynch you day 1. It's so easy to sway vote count here, if they are are a team I'm 100% dead. | ||
Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 05 2019 06:45 GMT
#1273
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Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 05 2019 06:47 GMT
#1275
Rayn(generally townread) just comes in pushes me to death. | ||
Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 05 2019 06:53 GMT
#1279
On July 05 2019 15:50 Jockmcplop wrote: you,conversion and grack were all town! Why did they have to push anyone to do anything????? When the voting was unclear, they were trying to get everyone to vote for you. Then when it became obvious it was gonna be a mislynch either way they didn't need to get anyone to vote for you any more. Rayn/eywa makes sense if you look at it like this. Ack, maby you are right! Mods didn't update final vote count so bleh. I'll try to dig it up and ponder. | ||
Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 05 2019 07:02 GMT
#1280
On July 04 2019 04:36 Fecalfeast wrote: conversion (5) pandain jockmcplop Grackaroni eversince trfel eversince (4) Raynpelikoneet, Eywa-, Holyflare, conversion Trfels vote has :29 timestamp based on tl servers Conversion dies Ok! found! I reread and I think you have a good point. To me it still doesn't make sense for both scum to park the same place but I'm re-evaluate. | ||
Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 05 2019 07:04 GMT
#1281
Me and Grack were just trying to survive.. | ||
Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 05 2019 07:08 GMT
#1283
On July 05 2019 16:05 Trfel wrote: Show nested quote + If you're town, mafia doesn't really care what they do to be honest. In my opinion anyway.On July 05 2019 16:02 Eversince wrote: On July 04 2019 04:36 Fecalfeast wrote: conversion (5) pandain jockmcplop Grackaroni eversince trfel eversince (4) Raynpelikoneet, Eywa-, Holyflare, conversion Trfels vote has :29 timestamp based on tl servers Conversion dies Ok! found! I reread and I think you have a good point. To me it still doesn't make sense for both scum to park the same place but I'm re-evaluate. Nah mafia absolutely care. both don't want to be implicate when I flip town. So they never vote together here. | ||
Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 05 2019 07:09 GMT
#1285
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Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 05 2019 07:09 GMT
#1286
On July 05 2019 16:09 Jockmcplop wrote: Show nested quote + On July 05 2019 16:08 Eversince wrote: On July 05 2019 16:05 Trfel wrote: On July 05 2019 16:02 Eversince wrote: If you're town, mafia doesn't really care what they do to be honest. In my opinion anyway.On July 04 2019 04:36 Fecalfeast wrote: conversion (5) pandain jockmcplop Grackaroni eversince trfel eversince (4) Raynpelikoneet, Eywa-, Holyflare, conversion Trfels vote has :29 timestamp based on tl servers Conversion dies Ok! found! I reread and I think you have a good point. To me it still doesn't make sense for both scum to park the same place but I'm re-evaluate. Nah mafia absolutely care. both don't want to be implicate when I flip town. So they never vote together here. You talking about day 1 vote or today's vote? d1! | ||
Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 05 2019 07:17 GMT
#1291
On July 05 2019 16:12 Jockmcplop wrote: Show nested quote + On July 05 2019 16:08 Eversince wrote: On July 05 2019 16:05 Trfel wrote: On July 05 2019 16:02 Eversince wrote: If you're town, mafia doesn't really care what they do to be honest. In my opinion anyway.On July 04 2019 04:36 Fecalfeast wrote: conversion (5) pandain jockmcplop Grackaroni eversince trfel eversince (4) Raynpelikoneet, Eywa-, Holyflare, conversion Trfels vote has :29 timestamp based on tl servers Conversion dies Ok! found! I reread and I think you have a good point. To me it still doesn't make sense for both scum to park the same place but I'm re-evaluate. Nah mafia absolutely care. both don't want to be implicate when I flip town. So they never vote together here. I don't know if I agree with this. What you're saying, in fact, is that one of myself and trfel must be mafia, and the other one must be rayn/eywa. So you're looking at a situation of eya/jock or eywa/trfel I don't think your mafia now Jock. I'm saying mafia doesn't want to put the entire team on me so when I flip town everyone is like 'Well shoot, just look at the votes! At a time when votes where crazy close between me and Grack. Then HF comes in and we shenanigans onto Conv. But we now know HF was town, didn't at the time. So it was town lead counter lynch. But this is pointless lets try to find scum! | ||
Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 05 2019 07:18 GMT
#1292
On July 05 2019 16:13 Jockmcplop wrote: You are literally accusing the only people who are trying to stop you being lynched today of being mafia How..? | ||
Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 05 2019 07:25 GMT
#1296
On July 05 2019 16:20 Jockmcplop wrote: Show nested quote + On July 05 2019 16:18 Eversince wrote: On July 05 2019 16:13 Jockmcplop wrote: You are literally accusing the only people who are trying to stop you being lynched today of being mafia How..? Pandain isn't mafia that leaves eywa and rayn who voted together for you on day, either that or one of me and trfel must be mafia Me and trfel are trying not to lynch you. Ok Jock. The more I talk to you the more happy I am I still call you town ![]() Thanks for responding! | ||
Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 05 2019 07:26 GMT
#1297
I'm sorry Truffles I'll read your big post in a second..(I'm slow reader) | ||
Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 05 2019 07:31 GMT
#1300
On July 05 2019 16:28 Jockmcplop wrote: Show nested quote + On July 05 2019 16:23 Jockmcplop wrote: On July 05 2019 16:20 Jockmcplop wrote: On July 05 2019 16:18 Eversince wrote: On July 05 2019 16:13 Jockmcplop wrote: You are literally accusing the only people who are trying to stop you being lynched today of being mafia How..? Pandain isn't mafia that leaves eywa and rayn who voted together for you on day, either that or one of me and trfel must be mafia Me and trfel are trying not to lynch you. This is the situation as I see it from your POV From my POV the following are possible mafia teams Rayn/eywa (my number 1 bet) ES/trfel (Ima die of embarrassment if this is it and I push to lynch rayn) trfel/eywa trfel/rayn (unlikely) Either way by sitting and figuring this out we can come up with strong reasons to lynch someone. I'm still working my way threw Truffles Rayn case but I don't think anyone out of the group except Eywa is mafia. Rayn could just be pulling wool over my eyes though! | ||
Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 05 2019 07:40 GMT
#1303
I think those are all valid points..I'm have to think now.. | ||
Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 05 2019 07:41 GMT
#1304
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Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 05 2019 08:04 GMT
#1306
On July 05 2019 16:45 Jockmcplop wrote: From trfel's rayn post Rayn's town reads on conversion and grack (also me??) really look like TMI How the fuck could you know that grack and conversion were town from their early posting?? Agree but I took it he was more waffling but maby its just s!Rayn. | ||
Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 05 2019 08:06 GMT
#1307
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Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 05 2019 08:14 GMT
#1310
On July 05 2019 17:10 Trfel wrote: Show nested quote + Sorry, building cases is hard work On July 05 2019 17:06 Eversince wrote: Thread is slow I'm go play some Temple of the Elemental Evil, I'll be about for a little while longer! But I gotta enjoy my nights off somehow! ![]() Gonna take a break and get Eversince's filter after. That'll probably be all I do tonight, I'm worn out and need some sleep. I'll likely get to Jockmcplop and Eywa- tomorrow night. off topic: understand! Reasons I don't do it anymore! | ||
Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 05 2019 08:15 GMT
#1311
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Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 05 2019 08:18 GMT
#1312
On July 05 2019 17:15 Eversince wrote: I'll read through your new Rayn post and see. I still need to go level out ground but I'm not sure I can be bothered in dark! Also off topic: No one tired as me should get in a backhoe but meh. You got to use the time you got for things! | ||
Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 05 2019 09:43 GMT
#1324
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Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 05 2019 09:46 GMT
#1325
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Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 05 2019 09:49 GMT
#1328
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Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 05 2019 09:52 GMT
#1330
On July 05 2019 18:46 Jockmcplop wrote: Show nested quote + On July 05 2019 18:43 Eversince wrote: Sorry just back in and only skim. I like Jock's reasoning so much. I said before I'd be willing to die but as pointed out we are MYLO so town can't afford it! Rayn/Eywa then? From where I'm looking at it the probably mafia teams are rayn/eywa or ES/trfel i'm about 75% in favour of it being rayn/eywa right now. VERY IMPORTANT MESSAGE TO ES/TRFEL There's only six votes so it may well come down to who accumulates votes first. Eywa hasn't voted yet I think we should all three of us vote for rayn now. ES if we don't do this before eywa votes you are dead unless we can convince pandain to switch. I get you. I'd rather lynch Eywa though but if it's forced I'll vote Rayn because otherwise I'm going to be such a mislynch that I can't even respond to.. | ||
Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 05 2019 09:54 GMT
#1332
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Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 05 2019 09:56 GMT
#1333
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Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 06 2019 04:48 GMT
#1445
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Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 06 2019 04:51 GMT
#1448
On July 06 2019 13:49 Trfel wrote: Hey all, it's evening US time so I can play again. Miss having Eversince and Holyflare to talk to ![]() Skimmed through Eversince's filter, just to get a general impression. I was actually surprised by how much original content there was, admittedly much of it lately has been an OMGUS onto Eywa-. I want to look deeper at Eversince's reads and the reasoning behind them, but I still feel like Eversince just doesn't make sense as mafia. Staying active and positive and relaxed and fun for so long, constantly fighting the lynch, makes no sense. And not knowing it was MYLO, not knowing Holyflare died, etc. all suggest she is town. More later. I can play for another week! So I'm back! | ||
Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 06 2019 04:55 GMT
#1450
On July 06 2019 13:51 Trfel wrote: Show nested quote + Oh hi!! On July 06 2019 13:48 Eversince wrote: I huff 90 miles on a bike in this heat, use old mail for a card, get a hotspot I can use, and this game is just going to be boring? My goodness. Lynch Rayn here or lynch me. Game is solved. ![]() Boring? There's a lot going on, I'm stressed like crazy trying to figure out what to do. When did you get so big on raynpelikoneet vs you, I thought you would still rather lynch Eywa- and wanted to filter raynpelikoneet? Thought you weren't sold he was mafia yet? I still think Eywa is scum for reasons I said before. The Jock/Rayn interaction makes no sense if they are a team. I think t!Jock here still makes sense and m!Rayn is pushing weak reasons. Eywa hard defending Rayn only makes sense if Eywa already knows it's between t!ES/ m!Rayn so leaving one of us alive will make people waffle the entire game and town loses. | ||
Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 06 2019 05:05 GMT
#1452
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Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 06 2019 05:09 GMT
#1453
On July 06 2019 14:04 Trfel wrote: Show nested quote + Sorry I'll be a bit slow to reply, a bit distracted here. I assume you read the last several pages?On July 06 2019 13:55 Eversince wrote: On July 06 2019 13:51 Trfel wrote: On July 06 2019 13:48 Eversince wrote: Oh hi!! I huff 90 miles on a bike in this heat, use old mail for a card, get a hotspot I can use, and this game is just going to be boring? My goodness. Lynch Rayn here or lynch me. Game is solved. ![]() Boring? There's a lot going on, I'm stressed like crazy trying to figure out what to do. When did you get so big on raynpelikoneet vs you, I thought you would still rather lynch Eywa- and wanted to filter raynpelikoneet? Thought you weren't sold he was mafia yet? I still think Eywa is scum for reasons I said before. The Jock/Rayn interaction makes no sense if they are a team. I think t!Jock here still makes sense and m!Rayn is pushing weak reasons. Eywa hard defending Rayn only makes sense if Eywa already knows it's between t!ES/ m!Rayn so leaving one of us alive will make people waffle the entire game and town loses. I know you just talked about it but could you elaborate on how you are so certain raynpelikoneet is mafia? I'm caught up, I was dead for a while when I got back but a nap and coffee did me wonders ![]() Rayn is mostly just shitting up the thread (see fight with me and now Jock) he says not much with these post or is picking a fight for no reason. I can see this 100% out of m!Rayn. You kind of fell off but I see no reason in your post to think your mafia so that leaves it m!Rayn trying to end game by getting me lynched when people expect I'm just fall off a cliff when I lose my hotspot ![]() | ||
Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 06 2019 05:12 GMT
#1454
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Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 06 2019 05:16 GMT
#1455
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Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 06 2019 05:18 GMT
#1456
What's your thoughts though? I might be dense!! | ||
Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 06 2019 05:29 GMT
#1458
On July 06 2019 14:24 Trfel wrote: Currently it's 4v2 I believe, no lynching would make it 3v2 LYLO. But that wouldn't really help since we have a confirmed townie (Pandain) who would die. What is different about raynpelikoneet's interactions with Jockmcplop than his interactions with you previously? At a glance I found them rather similar? They are similar. It generated 2-3 pages of just spam without accomplishing anything. I'm still his lynch if he honestly felt m!Jock there why is it he ignores m!ES? I think it's more likely that m!Rayn here just knows t!ES is hated by everyone in thread (-you and Truffles) and will likely die. Easy win! It is current 5-2.. | ||
Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 06 2019 05:30 GMT
#1461
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Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 06 2019 05:31 GMT
#1462
On July 06 2019 14:30 Trfel wrote: But I'm okay lynching between Eversince/raynpelikoneet. If it's Jockmcplop and Eywa- they can take the win, I don't think we'll be successful getting everyone to change targets. Plus if raynpelikoneet is town he's probably right about who mafia is, Jockmcplop is a strong player too. I'm gonna read/relax for a bit then deep dive your filter and decide where to vote. That's fine ![]() | ||
Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 06 2019 05:40 GMT
#1465
On July 06 2019 14:33 Trfel wrote: Show nested quote + Started 7v2, and we lost Conversion, Holyflare, and Grackaroni. 7-3=4v2?On July 06 2019 14:29 Eversince wrote: On July 06 2019 14:24 Trfel wrote: Currently it's 4v2 I believe, no lynching would make it 3v2 LYLO. But that wouldn't really help since we have a confirmed townie (Pandain) who would die. What is different about raynpelikoneet's interactions with Jockmcplop than his interactions with you previously? At a glance I found them rather similar? They are similar. It generated 2-3 pages of just spam without accomplishing anything. I'm still his lynch if he honestly felt m!Jock there why is it he ignores m!ES? I think it's more likely that m!Rayn here just knows t!ES is hated by everyone in thread (-you and Truffles) and will likely die. Easy win! It is current 5-2.. Plus, who is left? Eversince Trfel Jockmcplop Eywa- raynpelikoneet Pandain Six in total. Unless I am forgetting someone? More importantly though, I thought you said earlier you felt that raynpelikoneet was still townie in pushing you? Why exactly did you think that, since you changed your mind by now evidently? Oh crap! You're right I forgot Conv totally! I'm spend this entire game making myself look bad I guess ![]() I thought Rayn was ok but since I caught up and reread I can see m!Rayn with m!Eywa pushing an easy mislynch on t!ES to win game. I've spent this whole game looking terrible and mafia like to take advantage of bad town play (Re my thoughts on Grack).. So it seems opportunistic and I don't think you/Jock are scum so it has to be into Rayn or Eywa for me then. People waffle all game unless me or Rayn dies. Mafia 100% shoots un CC Pandain vigi tonight which leaves either t!Rayn live to lead town or it's m!Rayn trying to lead lynch onto t!ES to end game. | ||
Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 06 2019 05:49 GMT
#1469
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Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 06 2019 05:51 GMT
#1471
On July 06 2019 14:42 Jockmcplop wrote: Show nested quote + On July 06 2019 14:35 Trfel wrote: On July 06 2019 14:29 Jockmcplop wrote: Okay. I'll keep looking at it and I'll check again tomorrow before the deadline but I do hope Pandain comes back. If Pandain does not return though do you agree it would be best to switch votes to Eversince anyway?Hi guys Right now trfel you should switch your vote to rayn if you're not sure who's mafia. We're basically down to whatever pandain decides if he comes back. Either you give him two options or leave him no options. It depends on whether you are sure enough between ES and rayn to make that call yourself. Sorry I was asleep last night when you mentioned voting, in my tiredness I thought about it but didn't follow through. If its 3/3 at the end of day ES dies because she was first to 3 votes, right? You can come back at the end of day and decide whatever you want! Yeah, if I reach 3 votes first I lynched! | ||
Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 06 2019 05:53 GMT
#1473
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Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 06 2019 06:13 GMT
#1477
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Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 06 2019 06:49 GMT
#1479
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Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 06 2019 06:51 GMT
#1482
On July 06 2019 15:50 Trfel wrote: Get some rest Eversince, I should have a nice list of questions for you by morning! I'll be ready!! | ||
Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 06 2019 12:33 GMT
#1493
World where m!Truffles hammers away from me onto Conv then Truffles/me. But nothing in his filter makes him mafia. Prove otherwise.. This is why I'm thinking you are mafia more bunches because you just say this useless thing and ignore other thing. | ||
Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 06 2019 12:34 GMT
#1494
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Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 06 2019 12:45 GMT
#1495
@Eversince: 1. Why did you townread me (Trfel) early on? It feels like you townread me really, really easily, all I had to do was say I thought you were town. And you have never really backed down from this read all game. It feels a bit like TMI, or like you're trying to buddy me? I was trying to push the game into moving super early. You acted on it. Everything you did gave town vibes. You're activity has been bleh but at least when you are here your actually trying to solve the game still. So I wrote you off early, I'm still happy with that now, so why lynch Truffles? Makes no sense!! 2. What exactly about Conversion made him lynch-worthy to you? I get that being absent for long periods and posting thoughts sporadically and not really interacting with the thread is suspicious, but is that alone really worthy of a lynch? Was it a pattern of behavior or just the first time that you noticed? If a pattern of behavior, how did that change as Conversion posted more? My mind says that Conv just came into thread to dump easy vote on ES because I was gaining traction there! He never explained WHY he thought I'm mafia. Then shenanigans happen and I don't want town mislynch. I literally thought I died at d1 lynch.. Your vote saved me. So unless me and you are mafia together (I said before I'm town so I know this isn't true) that makes you town. Even if we are really wrong sadly but -shrug- town does stupid things all the time and mistakes don't make you mafia! | ||
Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 06 2019 12:47 GMT
#1496
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Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 06 2019 12:53 GMT
#1497
On July 06 2019 19:53 raynpelikoneet wrote: Show nested quote + On July 06 2019 09:36 Trfel wrote: Eywa- and Eversince probably aren't mafia together because they've been pushing each other all game. Raynpelikoneet and Jockmcplop probably aren't mafia together because the double bus here would be completely unnecessary. Raynpelikoneet and Eversince probably aren't mafia together because raynpelikoneet has been pushing Eversince so long and she didn't give up. To be honest I could kinda see this one but probably not so I'll ignore it for now. Leaves raynpelikoneet and Eywa-, Jockmcplop and Eywa-, and Jockmcplop and Eversince. Makes me wonder if raynpelikoneet really is the best lynch today, everything else aside. Though if we are going to lynch him anyway part of me just wants to get it over with, no sense prolonging losing; but I need to think. And please correct me if any of the associative reads I made are wrong or weak. I am going to challenge this. In your mind i can only be mafia with Eywa, meaning if i am mafia Eywa is ALWAYS mafia, so why are you lynching me? Like you're choosing to lynch a player you aren't sure is mafia but if they are another player is ALWAYS mafia. That said another player also fits into another mafia team. Why are you doing this? Because "let's just get over with it"? Literally lynching between you and me PROVES Eywa is mafia. Unless your mafia with Jock, not possible I think.. So your being super dense here! | ||
Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 06 2019 12:55 GMT
#1498
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Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 06 2019 18:17 GMT
#1552
On July 07 2019 02:10 raynpelikoneet wrote: Show nested quote + On July 07 2019 01:55 Trfel wrote: On July 02 2019 10:44 raynpelikoneet wrote: Basically this is why I'm scumreading you. I'm on a phone, as I have been the vast majority of the game (why I didn't say I was voting), so posting is a bit harder/slower. So I'm not going to quote your response but off the top of my head:Idk i am letting this go atm. You have given your pov and it's up to me to decide if i think you're telling the truth or not. 1. I looked at every single post that Conversion and Grackaroni made in the time windows for the reads you gave. Maybe I quoted the wrong post but I looked at them all, and I still feel like the substance behind the reads is weak and it feels like TMI to me. I could be wrong, but that's my interpretation of what happened. 2. I quoted a list of posts that suggest that shenanigans could happen, from the main thread. You didn't need to look at the voting thread to know that Conversion was gaining a lot of traction. I knew it, I never looked at the voting thread (phone posting). You never mentioned it or anything during that time, it didn't seem to change or affect your play at all. You've given your explanation, I could be wrong but I have a hard time believing it. 3. Again, you gave your explanation, it kinda makes sense for this one. I'm still a bit surprised you would get as mad as you did if you are town but it's whatever. 1. I simply read people like i do, i do that every single game i have ever played. And every single game someone doesn't understand my reads and i get called mafia for it. Funnily enough i am well aware of that and i don't actually do that as mafia, because i know i might get scumread for it. As mafia i just post what people want to hear. I simply have no reason as mafia to read Grackaroni or Conversion as town. Well maybe conversion yeah because he agreed with what i was thinking at the time and was pushing my top scumread. But that should make me even less mafia because it makes perfect sense, and should make perfect sense to everyone that i townread Conversion. 2. You weren't around and i didn't think it will happen. I have said many times in many games i don't reads the voting thread unless i go to vote, because i expect people to not ninja since i don't think that's fair. I hate voting threads. If you lynch me because i didn't read the voting thread or because you gave no notification about yourself and i should somehow assume you are around i will stop playing this game and never ever play another game. That's regardless of what my affiliation in this game is so even if you think i am mafia you can take that as a fact. Furthermore i did what i think was necessary. I explained why i did say things and why i didn't. That's it, maybe you should stop doign those shennies since the day phase is 48 hours and not 2 minutes. I'm just going to point out your hard stance becuase "ES lynch Parity cop Conv make mafia when you say things like this are a direct contradiction when I did exact same thing D1. I'm trying to catch up guys!! | ||
Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 06 2019 18:20 GMT
#1553
On July 07 2019 02:12 raynpelikoneet wrote: I would never ever "intentionally afk" as mafia at the eod because trying to "figure out who to lynch" between there is the fucking easiest place to look good without any setbacks lol. The whole argument that it makes me mafia is jsut very very wrong. Fair.. This is actually a really good point! But m!Rayn can make it easy because if it was TvsTvsT it means nothing. | ||
Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 06 2019 18:23 GMT
#1554
I'd be super happy with Eywa lynch but this game is going to go on forever if Rayn/me survives ![]() | ||
Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 06 2019 18:32 GMT
#1555
Your proving my point here by coming back in, shitting up the thread with Jock. Like if you want him lynched here FUCKING PUSH FOR IT. Instead we get 'oh your idiot and that makes you scum'! Just derailing the thread over and over serves no purpose. which I myself do all the time (Because I'm a comeplete dits brain who just is happy to talk with people) and I try to at least realize it when I'm doing it. But your doing it and insisting everyone just follow you. By flipping you or me game is basic solved. What is so hard to understand about this? If you think I'm scum you hard push ES. Your voting for me but not really trying to convince Pand (decider) to do it. The only reason not to do that is your scum.. | ||
Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 06 2019 18:35 GMT
#1556
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Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 06 2019 19:09 GMT
#1558
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Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 06 2019 19:10 GMT
#1559
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Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 06 2019 19:17 GMT
#1561
On July 07 2019 04:16 Pandain wrote: I'm gonna stay where I am for right now. I'm more confident in Rayn than ES. We will have to see what happens ![]() | ||
Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 06 2019 19:19 GMT
#1562
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Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 06 2019 19:23 GMT
#1563
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Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 06 2019 19:24 GMT
#1564
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Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 06 2019 19:24 GMT
#1565
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Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 06 2019 19:27 GMT
#1568
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Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 06 2019 19:28 GMT
#1569
On July 07 2019 04:26 Pandain wrote: Town should switch to ES just in case Eywa is somehow bussing and switch to rayn last minute I don't think either is mafia but that's what the choice is now. No you just need to decide between us and find the scum. One of us HAS to be the other is conf!town. pfft Pand! | ||
Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 06 2019 19:28 GMT
#1571
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Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 06 2019 19:29 GMT
#1572
On July 07 2019 04:28 raynpelikoneet wrote: You made the right choice pandain. Well played Rayn! ![]() | ||
Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 06 2019 19:31 GMT
#1575
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Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 06 2019 19:32 GMT
#1577
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Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 09 2019 19:35 GMT
#1771
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Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 09 2019 19:37 GMT
#1773
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Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 09 2019 19:47 GMT
#1779
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Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 09 2019 19:56 GMT
#1784
On July 10 2019 04:51 raynpelikoneet wrote: Show nested quote + On July 10 2019 04:47 Eversince wrote: Yeh, I kind of went over in obs but getting both blues D1 was a HUGE hit to town here. Conv checks depending might have made a big difference. his checks (re obs) would of outright confirmed Rayn as mafia (if he can convince) or confirm Rayn mafia when HF flips town.. i told you town's will do stupid things when i told you i cannot back off you or HF will figure me out. I played it on the fly after. I didn't want HF killed but i also wanted to shoot him N1, i was hoping someone would save him lol. ![]() Yeh, it made sense but reasons HF needed to die anyway. I kind of tried to use this logic for Grack too. I just used bad reasons for HF off some other game.. Thought I was 100% dead when I can't find said game, skim some of his scum games, see I'm totally wrong ![]() Also yeh, super lucky Pand shot into Grack not me there! | ||
Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 09 2019 20:20 GMT
#1802
Agree! Being hard makes it fun though! | ||
Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 09 2019 20:22 GMT
#1803
On July 10 2019 05:20 raynpelikoneet wrote: Show nested quote + On July 10 2019 05:16 Eywa- wrote: On July 10 2019 05:15 raynpelikoneet wrote: On July 10 2019 05:11 Holyflare wrote: On July 10 2019 04:47 raynpelikoneet wrote: On July 10 2019 04:37 Conversion wrote: well played Rayn and Eversince fuck you Trfel for hammering me for no reason and not even addressing me at any point in the game, fuck you Jock for telling people I'm playing pissy when I wasn't, fuck you Grack for not even talking to me and calling me scum with 1 hr left to lynch, and finally a big ole fuck you to mafia MVP Pandain for lynching me for being null and then shooting Grack who you were colluding with until EoD1 to shenanigan onto me ![]() yeah you played really really well. i didnt even have to lie or twist the facts when you got lynched for no reason at all. i was literally never prepared in you getting lynched so i didnt think i needed to do anything (if i did i would have yelled to lynch ES since i thought HF will figure me out in 1 sec if i change my mind), on that front trfel's case D2 was not so good. I think i would have had that read on Grack if i was town, i cant say for sure but i think i would have done it early on. HolyflarePerson was signed in when posted 07-09-2019 02:18 PM ET (US) I told you all no lynch was optimal. Always no lynch after rayn's day 2. Why? I heavily disagree with no-lynching here, mafiajsut kills Pandain and then what? Well because your day 2 was essentially opening up the entire game by calling the 2 townier people in the game mafia opportunistically and Eversince was known to have to afk after Friday so bussing was optimal. You played very well though either way. Gives you a whole lot more time to make errors too and search for more mafia but I guess the two people up for lynch didn't really give that great of a defence and seemed to just give up (even though they did try I guess). Obviously it's super different being in obs compared to in the game. I honestly never accounted ES' "possibly afking" into anything. I would never do that. I told her if she needs to go and cant play ask for a replacement. Idk who townier people i called mafia? I only called jock mafia i think and that was after when he made that case on me which i honestly thought was soooo bad (granted idk if it was "soooo bad" since i misread one of his posts). Idk about the last paragraph? Are you talking about D3 here earlier too or? I think you're being critical of your play though, you never come out looking worse than Trfel tbh. idk why is he saying i called "two of the townier people mafia at the start of D2" because i called ES and noone else mafia? I think he meant D2 when you were split on Jock/ES mafia team. I just forced the lynch between us because I was not sure I could get another hotspot with the old mail I had. So I figure I just get lynched anyway when I drop off a cliff. | ||
Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 09 2019 21:52 GMT
#1818
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Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 09 2019 22:00 GMT
#1821
On July 10 2019 06:59 Jockmcplop wrote: I've rolled vt 5 times in a row now. Is that normal? It seems alot. I want a different role dammit! you get to be 100% mafia next game!! Everyone: lynch Jock next game he plays in for NO reasons!! <3 | ||
Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 10 2019 07:27 GMT
#1827
On July 10 2019 07:56 Fecalfeast wrote: Would you prefer to roll mafia 6 times in a row? I rage quit* (damn auto correct! Urgh)!! 100% of the time! I like play as scum because it makes you think. 6 games in a row though?! -hyper ventilates- By game 4 I'd resort 'lynch me now because I need a break!!' That with all effort to change my scum play to be better! I'd just take modkill there :/.. (Not proud of that just truth) I enjoy playing as town much more ![]() | ||
Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 10 2019 07:35 GMT
#1828
On July 10 2019 16:20 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On July 10 2019 06:50 raynpelikoneet wrote: As HF and Eywa said (HF had TMI in obs qt though!!) idk, i would have liked to see if people actually catch me for actual reasons (idk, maybe you jock and trfel had reasons but even as mafia i thought they dont apply to me because i was lynching mafia -- or if i got lynched ES will prolly win anyways). I mean i think i called out ES for all the right reasons and that's it. Town just fucked up on the lynch D1 and there was an unfortunate vigi who didn't shoot mafia, so i had an opening. No I didn't lol? Oh maby I miss remember ![]() | ||
Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 10 2019 07:36 GMT
#1829
[edit] damn I need to get better at editing post to not spew thread after game is done ![]() Skimming back I had that wrong, no never really push on me! Little mistakes like this get me lynch all the time ![]() | ||
Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 10 2019 07:44 GMT
#1831
On July 10 2019 16:37 Jockmcplop wrote: Show nested quote + On July 10 2019 07:00 Eversince wrote: On July 10 2019 06:59 Jockmcplop wrote: I've rolled vt 5 times in a row now. Is that normal? It seems alot. I want a different role dammit! you get to be 100% mafia next game!! Everyone: lynch Jock next game he plays in for NO reasons!! <3 This is what normally happens anyway :D <3 you friend ![]() | ||
Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 10 2019 07:47 GMT
#1832
On July 10 2019 16:36 Eversince wrote: Your not alive for D2 but your push on me was enough.. [edit] damn I need to get better at editing post to not spew thread after game is done ![]() Skimming back I had that wrong, no never really push on me! Little mistakes like this get me lynch all the time ![]() Like you literally lead entire town off m!ES because I'm more '?'. Rayn/me shoot you. That's it. If I had died D1* town has so much better chance of winning here.. [edit] above happen all the time as town so that's no problem which is why I never m!HF If Conv check went through I'd try push you to death but we lynched him instead and shot you HF. | ||
Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 10 2019 07:52 GMT
#1834
On July 10 2019 16:37 Jockmcplop wrote: Show nested quote + On July 10 2019 07:00 Eversince wrote: On July 10 2019 06:59 Jockmcplop wrote: I've rolled vt 5 times in a row now. Is that normal? It seems alot. I want a different role dammit! you get to be 100% mafia next game!! Everyone: lynch Jock next game he plays in for NO reasons!! <3 This is what normally happens anyway :D Hehehe!!!! But now I have a nice resource to refer if I roll scum next time I play ![]() | ||
Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 10 2019 07:57 GMT
#1835
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Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 10 2019 08:00 GMT
#1836
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Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 10 2019 08:01 GMT
#1837
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Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
July 10 2019 08:06 GMT
#1839
On July 10 2019 17:02 Holyflare wrote: I resolutely stayed on you the entire time and told everyone off for going to conversion lol. If thats the case I miss-remember so I have to go back and check EoD on D1 because I'm obviously mistaken.. I'll try before I sleep! What I remember is m!ES leading wagon! Grack option (But I hard defended him) basically no one else. D2 was a force lynch between Rayn/me. I'll read up again on d1 when I get break though! | ||
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