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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9732 Posts
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Trfel
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Jockmcplop, thanks for the explanation. That helps me understand better. | ||
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Trfel
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On July 03 2019 07:11 Jockmcplop wrote: I'm sorry I just don't quite get this answer. First, the bolded portion isn't true. The bolded portion happened before the events in the previous paragraph, not after. I would understand if the progression happened as you describe, but that is NOT what actually happened.ok trfel I tried to explain my thought process in the posts, but I can explain further. I don't like deciding who to vote for immediately and just sticking to it no matter what else happens. The post I was replying to there was like "We need to figure out who to vote for". I was pointing out that we don't, its still the first half of day 1 so there's no need at that point. Then pandain makes some dodgy looking posts and vote with basically no reasoning behind it, so I questioned him but he disappeared so I voted for him. When I asked him to come back and be more townie its because I want him to come back and be more townie, then I will remove my vote from him (which I will also do if someone else starts being very mafia). Its a pressure vote. It sucks that I have to explain this to you and you can't read between the lines. And the red, about it being a pressure vote... Does this: On July 02 2019 16:38 Jockmcplop wrote: Fair enough. What do you think of Pandain? Immediately reversing his only read is a little suspicious and 'I changed my perspective' is a very opaque answer as to what happened. It kinda it makes it impossible to progress a conversation about what exactly pandain is thinking. Not being open about your thought process is mafia motivated at this point, especially when something like his trfel read debacle sticks out so obviously in the thread. His vote on you also seems like he's forcing something, trying to be first to vote for some reason. I can see mafia motivation everywhere with this guy already. ##vote pandain On July 02 2019 16:46 Jockmcplop wrote: Look like a pressure vote? You even call it a strong scumread. Maybe we have different definitions of a pressure vote, maybe I am wrong, but regardless it appears to me to be a legitimate scumread of Pandain and that seems to be clearly what you are saying here.I know I said I didn't need to vote early, but this really jumped out at me. Pandain come back and be more town for me, I don't like having such a strong scumread so early lol. | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
On July 03 2019 00:04 Grackaroni wrote: Also, @Grackaroni, it's one thing to be suspicious of someone, it's another to be willing to lynch them. To me being willing to lynch them is way, way stronger, like I'd be happy if they were dead right now. I even said in my post last game "I know it's not very strong."I think that post is very strange when compared to how he viewed me last game. I don't see how he can be so bothered by someone being willing to lynch me. Also, Grackaroni, this is literally the only thing you've mentioned that you are suspicious about me. Really, this is it? Yet you are voting for me? Especially when Grackaroni is townreading the current leading wagon, Eversince, for tone, the same read I've talked about at great length. Does anyone else find this suspicious? Because I certainly do. | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
On July 02 2019 15:36 Pandain wrote: Going to remove my townread on Trfels. The bolded phrase seems very definitive and certain that ES is town. (...) On July 02 2019 16:24 Pandain wrote: [b]@Pandain[b], I really don't get this progression. Help me understand? You were townreading me, then you went to a slight townread, then you downgraded to null. Sure, whatever. What I don't get is that to explain the slight townread changing to a null, you quoted this post and bolded a phrase, shown above. And then when that turned out to be not what you thought it was, you just left it. So help me explain, how did the quote in question affect your read on me, and when it turned out to be irrelevant why did your read not adjust?Oh I'm a bad reader. I thought you were talking about this game. But I do like Pandain's post about Grackaroni. So I'm hesitant on him currently. | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9732 Posts
When I say Pandain come back and be more town for me Its because i'm pressuring him to come back and answer questions and make me think he's town. A pressure vote and a scum read aren't mutually exclusive, especially that early in the game. I had a scum read on him, which felt strong because he hadn't posted much and all of his posts were suspicious, and i was pressuring him to come and help me see that he's town by answering a question. I also don't get what this ridiculous semantic nitpicking has to do with the game. Even if any of the misinterpretations you're offering were true, how on earth would that make me mafia? As for this: I'm sorry I just don't quite get this answer. First, the bolded portion isn't true. The bolded portion happened before the events in the previous paragraph, not after. I would understand if the progression happened as you describe, but that is NOT what actually happened. It doesn't really matter either way does it? I've explained myself anyway if you want to keep nitpicking tiny details in the hope that it somehow makes me mafia have at it. | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
I'm sorry you feel I am nitpicking and being annoying, that isn't my intention. I only questioned two things, I just wanted to make sure your answers were truthful. To me it's significant if someone tries to falsify information to justify their reads and make themselves look better, even if it's over a little thing. If I am wrong please feel free to correct me, but I have quadruple checked it and am pretty sure I am right. I'll let it drop because it's the only thing out of an otherwise decent filter, I'm sorry I'm just trying to understand. | ||
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Trfel
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9732 Posts
On July 03 2019 08:09 Trfel wrote: Thanks for explaining, I understand about the pressure vote. I'm sorry you feel I am nitpicking and being annoying, that isn't my intention. I only questioned two things, I just wanted to make sure your answers were truthful. To me it's significant if someone tries to falsify information to justify their reads and make themselves look better, even if it's over a little thing. If I am wrong please feel free to correct me, but I have quadruple checked it and am pretty sure I am right. I'll let it drop because it's the only thing out of an otherwise decent filter, I'm sorry I'm just trying to understand. Sorry trfel I'm grumpy cos my housemates are making so much fucking noise in the room next door and I want to sleep at before work GODDAMN THEM. You might be a bit right that it looks like i got the order of events wrong, but i don't think i was really contradicting my logic. Its about the difference in context between "We need to figure out who to lynch fast" and me voting for pandain to get him to answer a question i wanted answering about his vote. Your point would be better if I had tried to start a wagon on Pandain or really tried to get people to lynch him, which I haven't (I have asked a couple of people for opinions on him, that's all) | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9732 Posts
He didn't exactly townread ES, he just gave her a pass for now if i'm reading it right. I have absolutely no reason to townread him either yet though. | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
On July 03 2019 08:27 Jockmcplop wrote: No worries, I'm sorry, I know that feeling Sorry trfel I'm grumpy cos my housemates are making so much fucking noise in the room next door and I want to sleep at before work GODDAMN THEM. You might be a bit right that it looks like i got the order of events wrong, but i don't think i was really contradicting my logic. Its about the difference in context between "We need to figure out who to lynch fast" and me voting for pandain to get him to answer a question i wanted answering about his vote. Your point would be better if I had tried to start a wagon on Pandain or really tried to get people to lynch him, which I haven't (I have asked a couple of people for opinions on him, that's all)  Hope you can get some sleep soon. That's no fun I understand what you are saying, thanks for explaining. I just wanted to make sure. | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
On July 03 2019 08:31 Jockmcplop wrote: Hm, fair enough, I'll keep thinking about it.. Need to head out now though. Be back tonight.I've skimmed grack's filter trfel and besides wanting to lynch you for no apparent reason (that I can see) I don't think it looks like mafia grack. He didn't exactly townread ES, he just gave her a pass for now if i'm reading it right. I have absolutely no reason to townread him either yet though. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25555 Posts
Vote Count Eversince: (5) Pandain, Raynpelikoneet, Eywa-, Holyflare, conversion Pandain: (1) Jockmcplop trfel: (1) Grackaroni Eywa-: (1) Eversince Grackaroni: (1) Trfel not voting (0): currently Eversince is set to be lynched until deadline. (Wednesday, Jul 03 7:30pm GMT (GMT+00:00)) voting is mandatory. | ||
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Grackaroni
United States9846 Posts
On July 03 2019 08:31 Jockmcplop wrote: I've skimmed grack's filter trfel and besides wanting to lynch you for no apparent reason (that I can see) I don't think it looks like mafia grack. He didn't exactly townread ES, he just gave her a pass for now if i'm reading it right. I have absolutely no reason to townread him either yet though. My only thought is: Why did you skim my filter? It's very short. Like 2 minutes worth of reading!! | ||
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Grackaroni
United States9846 Posts
 Top tier vote counts BH. | ||
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Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
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Grackaroni
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Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
On July 03 2019 11:09 Grackaroni wrote: I'm not drunk you're drunk. Grack stop being useless! I've given you so much room this game but everyone wants to kill for that crap. You've really giving me no reason to think your scum yet but I'm die because of 'loose reads'! Also if you don't start posting super town soon I'm have to re-evaluate myself because you made your yourself obvious town last game. Where is it here? | ||
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Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
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Grackaroni
United States9846 Posts
On July 03 2019 11:40 Eversince wrote: Grack stop being useless! I've given you so much room this game but everyone wants to kill for that crap. You've really giving me no reason to think your scum yet but I'm die because of 'loose reads'! Also if you don't start posting super town soon I'm have to re-evaluate myself because you made your yourself obvious town last game. Where is it here? Yeah I know I am quite the shitter. I will *drunk* look at Pandain/Trfel. | ||
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