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Eversince
Philippines2297 Posts
On July 03 2019 05:55 Eywa- wrote: Also FYI -> For Your Information AtE -> Appeal to Emotion Ok. Thanks. Wrose to my point then is why you think trying to make people enjoy being here and post is a bad thing. We develops reads from people posting. | ||
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Eversince
Philippines2297 Posts
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Grackaroni
United States9835 Posts
On July 03 2019 05:58 Eversince wrote: My god I need to sleep already. worse* lol what time is it in the Philippines? 5 am? | ||
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Eversince
Philippines2297 Posts
On July 03 2019 05:59 Grackaroni wrote: lol what time is it in the Philippines? 5 am? I'm back in the States right now. But I work overnights for a Chem company and I'm always on call for problems with another plant I work at in Philippines. I'm just dead because I want to be around for people to talk to. Just did a 21 hour day yesterday. Then didn't sleep last night. My mind is fuzzy, | ||
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Grackaroni
United States9835 Posts
On July 03 2019 02:19 Holyflare wrote: Because she doesn't know my meta and has been asked to give a read on me and I have little to no content. She knows I'm town and that I get shot by mafia so she says the truth, that I'm likely to come back and post more if town but then obviously has to arbitrarily fit in the alternative to make it look like she's weighing up my alignment but she got it way wrong. How does she know I'm likely to be shot as town because I'm good at mafia and mafia fear me but not know my mafia meta? It sounds like she just knows hf = vet = apply generic vet meta. I would be very careful about calling her out for misapplying meta on you. This is my fourth game with her and she thinks she's the resident Grackaroni expert even though I've played like 25 games with you/Rayn. | ||
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Eversince
Philippines2297 Posts
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Eversince
Philippines2297 Posts
On July 03 2019 06:05 Grackaroni wrote: I would be very careful about calling her out for misapplying meta on you. This is my fourth game with her and she thinks she's the resident Grackaroni expert even though I've played like 25 games with you/Rayn. Also no not expert!! I have played here a while though. So I treat people different! | ||
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Pandain
United States12984 Posts
On July 03 2019 06:02 Eversince wrote: I'm back in the States right now. But I work overnights for a Chem company and I'm always on call for problems with another plant I work at in Philippines. I'm just dead because I want to be around for people to talk to. Just did a 21 hour day yesterday. Then didn't sleep last night. My mind is fuzzy, If this is true you should probably go to sleep now. If you're exhausted and making mistakes you're just going to bring more suspicion on yourself. I've only briefly followed this thread throughout the day (15 hour shift) but I just noticed you just said you don't understand my reasoning when the last thing you had said to me when I was active was "oh I understand you now" So either you're lying or you can't remember anything. Either one is possible based on what you're saying about your exhaustion | ||
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Pandain
United States12984 Posts
I'm going to go to sleep and catch up in the morning. | ||
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Eversince
Philippines2297 Posts
On July 03 2019 06:14 Pandain wrote: If this is true you should probably go to sleep now. If you're exhausted and making mistakes you're just going to bring more suspicion on yourself. I've only briefly followed this thread throughout the day (15 hour shift) but I just noticed you just said you don't understand my reasoning when the last thing you had said to me when I was active was "oh I understand you now" So either you're lying or you can't remember anything. Either one is possible based on what you're saying about your exhaustion Yes Pandain. I spent the whole last game we played waffling on you reasoning. I don't want that to be an issue for this one! I understood one point you made to say I'm lying is kind of trash. I got what you where trying to say, other people posted some stuff, I start to waffle Pandain again. That's why you not in my lynch pool today I much rather go Conv/Ewya for what I posted already. | ||
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Eversince
Philippines2297 Posts
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Grackaroni
United States9835 Posts
On July 03 2019 06:21 Eversince wrote: I was more happy you made that point because it made me feel better about you. But in general your logic is ------> so I don't get it. Then I m!Pand for reasons that don't make sense given Pand. I guess a fault of it being I watch a lot more games here than I play. i can understand that. I do quite a bit of that too. I don't think Eywa is mafia either at the moment so I'm a bit lost. I am channeling my inner Tumblewood for this read. | ||
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Eversince
Philippines2297 Posts
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
the voting thread is --HERE-- please remember to vote in that thread or it won't count. until deadline. (Wednesday, Jul 03 7:30pm GMT (GMT+00:00)) voting is mandatory. | ||
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Eversince
Philippines2297 Posts
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
Pandain: (1) Jockmcplop trfel: (1) Grackaroni Eywa-: (1) Eversince not voting (1): Trfel currently Eversince is set to be lynched until deadline. (Wednesday, Jul 03 7:30pm GMT (GMT+00:00)) voting is mandatory. | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
 so I'm pretty sad and out of it.Been filter diving from the top. I like raynpelikoneet, his play seems to match his play last game very well. It feels like he's trying to solve the game, and he's still not focusing in and incessantly pushing single things. The thing that makes me townread him is that (assuming Eversince is town, which admittedly there is a chance I am wrong, but that is my current read) on Holyflare's comment he instantly switched his vote back to Eversince and has resolutely kept it there. If raynpelikoneet is mafia he knows that this is wrong, and in accordance with his "new," non-tunneling style of play I think he would be a bit more hesitant/reserved with that. Which makes me think he is town. If I explained that adequately. Unsure about Jockmcplop currently. + Show Spoiler [Analysis] + On July 02 2019 16:30 Jockmcplop wrote: Lynching lurkers isn't always trash. I personally don't see the rush to figure out a vote right now. I guess we all play differently but I'd rather wait until near the deadline to gather as much as possible first. On July 02 2019 16:38 Jockmcplop wrote: Fair enough. What do you think of Pandain? Immediately reversing his only read is a little suspicious and 'I changed my perspective' is a very opaque answer as to what happened. It kinda it makes it impossible to progress a conversation about what exactly pandain is thinking. Not being open about your thought process is mafia motivated at this point, especially when something like his trfel read debacle sticks out so obviously in the thread. His vote on you also seems like he's forcing something, trying to be first to vote for some reason. I can see mafia motivation everywhere with this guy already. ##vote pandain On July 02 2019 16:46 Jockmcplop wrote: Pandain made no posts in between these posts.I know I said I didn't need to vote early, but this really jumped out at me. Pandain come back and be more town for me, I don't like having such a strong scumread so early lol. I know this has already been pointed out, but this scumread of Pandain feels somewhat fabricated. It feels like his suspicions of Pandain kinda came out of nowhere, it feels a bit forced to me. I could easily be wrong though; I'd like to see more from Jockmcplop, I think he's put himself in an interesting position with the null read on Eversince and the current vote count. @Jockmcplop, do you have an explanation for your thought process through the quoted posts? Holyflare, this sentence is for you, just because I know you like seeing your name on things. So far I'm suspicious of Eywa-. Eywa- feels a bit self-conscious, which seems highly opposite their town play last game. + Show Spoiler [Analysis] + On July 03 2019 02:43 Eywa- wrote: Very similar to posts that Eywa- made last game as town.The biggest reason is her role PM. Probably RNG. On July 03 2019 05:01 Eywa- wrote: But this didn't come up last game at all? Feels like Eywa- is self-conscious about not giving reasons in this game, which wasn't at all present last game, despite playing in a very similar way.The role pm part was a joke... Oops, somehow it's being quoted in every post now. On July 03 2019 04:35 Eywa- wrote: I don't think you're the only good lynch, but I think you're the most likely to get lynched of the narrow pool of acceptable lynches. The difference is negligible, so we can say you're the best lynch... or tied for the slot at least. On July 03 2019 05:07 Eywa- wrote: Idk, feels like you've slipped a bunch and you're reluctant to just tell people they're wrong when reading you. You on multiple occasions tiptoed around that either indicating you don't like the way you're being read or that you felt a read on you was justified (despite it being a mafia read) You also haven't provided much substance imo despite aggressively posting (I know, I'm the one talking...) Overall, I'm failing to see any reason to not lynch you. Hopefully this falls into the category of sufficient justification, because I won't be going into any of the scum theater, that's discussion for another day. Throw your vote down and stop saying how much you don't like my position, if you don't like it, put your vote where your mouth is. On July 03 2019 05:31 Eywa- wrote: It feels like Eywa-'s scumread and vote on Eversince is just following the momentum of everyone else, the reasons and actual strength behind the read comes out later. Eywa- even admits that Eversince is just the most likely lynch out of a narrow pool. Side note, what is Eywa-'s lynch pool anyway? They only mentioned four townreads, which leaves four remaining players, I'd say that's quite a wide lynch pool, instead of the narrow pool Eywa- claims...Nah, your start to this game (basically your entire first page of game (not including pre-game) filter is: 1) trying to pocket Pandain 2) random town read on first player to post 3) trying to pocket Pandain 4) AtE There's some random comment about how you don't mind conversion (that was contradicted like 2-3 posts later - and then later escalated again). Overall, here's a summary... You're all over that AtE this game You're always coming back to Pandain mafia and claiming that his read on you is wrong... Well, if he's mafia... He's not wrong is he? He's just... Well, Mafia. You went through a phase of trying to name drop every player in the game, which lead to some reads escalating rather... Strangely. You seem to be displaying a complete lack of understanding for why anyone is being read in certain ways rather than seeing things from their (town) perspective. I'm voting ES now, I'll be voting ES at end of day as well. But Eywa-'s scumread on Eversince increases in strength from "Eversince is one acceptable lynch out of a group of acceptable lynches" to "I'm lynching Eversince no matter what," and the only reasons cited are all from posts and events that happened before the first post in question. It feels extremely opportunistic to me and somewhat forced. @Eywa-, can you explain your thought process through the quoted posts? I'm interested in how your read on Eversince has changed over those posts, and what caused that change. I haven't gotten to Conversion and Grackaroni yet, and I need to reread Pandain; I will try to do so as soon as I can. Heading out for a bit. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
that's fucked up logic | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9338 Posts
I tried to explain my thought process in the posts, but I can explain further. I don't like deciding who to vote for immediately and just sticking to it no matter what else happens. The post I was replying to there was like "We need to figure out who to vote for". I was pointing out that we don't, its still the first half of day 1 so there's no need at that point. Then pandain makes some dodgy looking posts and vote with basically no reasoning behind it, so I questioned him but he disappeared so I voted for him. When I asked him to come back and be more townie its because I want him to come back and be more townie, then I will remove my vote from him (which I will also do if someone else starts being very mafia). Its a pressure vote. It sucks that I have to explain this to you and you can't read between the lines. | ||
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