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disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 21 2019 11:49 GMT
#1261
On May 21 2019 20:43 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2019 20:36 disformation wrote:
On May 21 2019 20:30 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Jesus fuck Disinformation. This was my original read for jock. Posted in the fucking thread, hell its even in my filter you just dove.

On May 20 2019 14:19 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Again, im not saying kill jock as of right now. What I am saying is this. Keep an eye on him. The reason the post of his I quoted earlier i said was the "scummiest thing" he has done is a few reasons

A) Outside Rayn he has basically done dick fuck all
B) for a completely new player to change their meta so much with the same alignment 3 games in a row is shady.

Basically hes a good cop check?


Ruxxar, Calix and Disinformation to me are higher in likelyhood to strike red.

that is _after_ that progression. its like 6-7 hours after you are like "jock is a scum lean, read wbg for my thought progression".


You do realize that after the post I just quoted of mine I basically didnt talk about Jock for ages? Why do you care about my Jock read progression. I literally in my filter said I wasn't 100% on him and it was a lean. Why the hell do you care more about my reasons for someone leaning scum as opposed to someone I think is scum?

You are reading the thread, you have been here more or less active the entire game day and have offered nothing of substance. Help us solve the game, or if you just insist on tunneling people who point in your direction get ready to likely get vigi'd or lynched.

cause i cant follow your read progression at all, which to me means you are scum trying to make shit up?
dont think its that hard to understand.
On May 21 2019 20:45 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2019 20:42 disformation wrote:
On May 21 2019 20:34 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On May 21 2019 20:30 disformation wrote:
of the top of my head top 3 might just be like bc and conv. maybe grok. like if i say fuck this game i can sheep bugs.
actually kinda want to look into joshi and rayn. imo joshi and i have totally different reeds.



So let me get this straight. You only have 2 scum reads. Both of those people have called you mafia and thus you call them mafia in return.

Then you say fuck it, you will sheep bugs.....who thinks one of your main scum reads is town?

You are clearing reading the thread, but haven't looked into either Koshi or Rayn? Like what is this shit?

yeah, i am prolly a decent target for scum atm, pretty sure there is scum in the ppl scumreading me.
yes, like i mentioned earlier bugs is like the only sane person in this damn game.
nah rayn is imo gonna solve himself and im not confident in reading joshi in the first place. but i am starting to notice that he and i have a lot of different reads so i want to see if i have a decent shot at his alignment from that.



If you think Bugs is the only sane person in the game you would trust his judgment on me, which you dont. Especially given you said you would sheep him. So instead of antagonizing me you should want to be doing you know, something productive?

like. you can think someone is town without 100% marrying/copying all their reads?

frankly this is getting super annoying
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 21 2019 11:50 GMT
#1262
sorry, *why they believe ruxxar to be town
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 21 2019 11:52 GMT
#1263
disfo, conversion, BC (especially BC, cause you came in with the intention of cleaning up the thread :D)

you're doing that classic town vs town vs town shitfest thing.

Let's back it up a bit, and come to an agreement that you all disagree with each other, and from this standpoint it looks like you're all arguing about completely pointless things when none of the things any of you are pointing out seem scummy to me.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
May 21 2019 11:52 GMT
#1264
On May 21 2019 20:49 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2019 20:43 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On May 21 2019 20:36 disformation wrote:
On May 21 2019 20:30 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Jesus fuck Disinformation. This was my original read for jock. Posted in the fucking thread, hell its even in my filter you just dove.

On May 20 2019 14:19 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Again, im not saying kill jock as of right now. What I am saying is this. Keep an eye on him. The reason the post of his I quoted earlier i said was the "scummiest thing" he has done is a few reasons

A) Outside Rayn he has basically done dick fuck all
B) for a completely new player to change their meta so much with the same alignment 3 games in a row is shady.

Basically hes a good cop check?


Ruxxar, Calix and Disinformation to me are higher in likelyhood to strike red.

that is _after_ that progression. its like 6-7 hours after you are like "jock is a scum lean, read wbg for my thought progression".


You do realize that after the post I just quoted of mine I basically didnt talk about Jock for ages? Why do you care about my Jock read progression. I literally in my filter said I wasn't 100% on him and it was a lean. Why the hell do you care more about my reasons for someone leaning scum as opposed to someone I think is scum?

You are reading the thread, you have been here more or less active the entire game day and have offered nothing of substance. Help us solve the game, or if you just insist on tunneling people who point in your direction get ready to likely get vigi'd or lynched.

cause i cant follow your read progression at all, which to me means you are scum trying to make shit up?
dont think its that hard to understand.
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2019 20:45 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On May 21 2019 20:42 disformation wrote:
On May 21 2019 20:34 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On May 21 2019 20:30 disformation wrote:
of the top of my head top 3 might just be like bc and conv. maybe grok. like if i say fuck this game i can sheep bugs.
actually kinda want to look into joshi and rayn. imo joshi and i have totally different reeds.



So let me get this straight. You only have 2 scum reads. Both of those people have called you mafia and thus you call them mafia in return.

Then you say fuck it, you will sheep bugs.....who thinks one of your main scum reads is town?

You are clearing reading the thread, but haven't looked into either Koshi or Rayn? Like what is this shit?

yeah, i am prolly a decent target for scum atm, pretty sure there is scum in the ppl scumreading me.
yes, like i mentioned earlier bugs is like the only sane person in this damn game.
nah rayn is imo gonna solve himself and im not confident in reading joshi in the first place. but i am starting to notice that he and i have a lot of different reads so i want to see if i have a decent shot at his alignment from that.



If you think Bugs is the only sane person in the game you would trust his judgment on me, which you dont. Especially given you said you would sheep him. So instead of antagonizing me you should want to be doing you know, something productive?

like. you can think someone is town without 100% marrying/copying all their reads?

frankly this is getting super annoying


Yeah this argument is dumb. Just because disformation thinks WBG is town doesn't mean he has to think you're town. I think WBG is town. Doesn't mean I'm gonna crib his reads, lmao

Agree with BC that disformation should do something else though Like vote for rayn!
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 21 2019 11:53 GMT
#1265
jo. bugs, calix do you guys see the problem in bc's read progression too or am i just stupid?
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
May 21 2019 11:53 GMT
#1266
I really Hate you bugs, I really do.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
May 21 2019 11:54 GMT
#1267
God have mercy on my soul
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 21 2019 11:54 GMT
#1268
On May 21 2019 20:53 disformation wrote:
jo. bugs, calix do you guys see the problem in bc's read progression too or am i just stupid?

possible i just hate the guy's style and am getting irrate about the constant "but you didnt do anything".
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 21 2019 11:56 GMT
#1269
On May 21 2019 20:53 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
I really Hate you bugs, I really do.


no you don't :D

also it's my turn to shit on people unfairly for dirtying up the thread LOL

On May 21 2019 20:53 disformation wrote:
jo. bugs, calix do you guys see the problem in bc's read progression too or am i just stupid?


nah I think you're reading into it too much

besides at this point of the game why would we lynch into the pool of players who actually seem passionate about getting the game solved, and who are genuinely frustrated that we all collectively suck?

I was feeling pretty garbo on the last page but now witnessing you all fight I realized that my gripe is mostly with the probable mafia in ruxxar + rayn + VE + maybe Koshi who aren't really trying to figure out the game at all but still managing to destroy the thread.

Actually Koshi maybe is trying to figure out the game in his own way, sometimes it's hard to tell.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
May 21 2019 11:56 GMT
#1270
On May 21 2019 20:53 disformation wrote:
jo. bugs, calix do you guys see the problem in bc's read progression too or am i just stupid?


If BC is scum, it's not because of his Jock progression IMO.
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9794 Posts
May 21 2019 11:56 GMT
#1271
On May 21 2019 20:52 wherebugsgo wrote:
disfo, conversion, BC (especially BC, cause you came in with the intention of cleaning up the thread :D)

you're doing that classic town vs town vs town shitfest thing.

Let's back it up a bit, and come to an agreement that you all disagree with each other, and from this standpoint it looks like you're all arguing about completely pointless things when none of the things any of you are pointing out seem scummy to me.


I would like to do this.

I think we need to start working together more.

I'll start with this:

##Unvote


Right conversion, I still think you're scum but my vote will most likely land elsewhere. I'm fed of being being distracted with you putting me on the defensive while I'm trying to figure out more important shit.

WBG: Can you see why I need to figure out calix/koshi???
Calix has almost exactly the same reads as me and is now trying to get the rayn trayn a running. However, Koshi is insisting that calix is scum and we're all stupid for not already knowing that.

So... I need to know whether calix is scum so I can figure out whether or not to reevaluate absolutely everything so far.

What are you thinking on this? I'm sorry for being fucking useless but I don't even know how to figure this shit out at all... especially while koshi isn't here.

RIP Meatloaf <3
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
May 21 2019 11:57 GMT
#1272
Koshi only upside is this game is completely diff to uninspired but that being said Vivax did get modkilled so he may have lost all heart with that.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
May 21 2019 11:58 GMT
#1273
On May 21 2019 20:56 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2019 20:52 wherebugsgo wrote:
disfo, conversion, BC (especially BC, cause you came in with the intention of cleaning up the thread :D)

you're doing that classic town vs town vs town shitfest thing.

Let's back it up a bit, and come to an agreement that you all disagree with each other, and from this standpoint it looks like you're all arguing about completely pointless things when none of the things any of you are pointing out seem scummy to me.


I would like to do this.

I think we need to start working together more.

I'll start with this:

##Unvote


Right conversion, I still think you're scum but my vote will most likely land elsewhere. I'm fed of being being distracted with you putting me on the defensive while I'm trying to figure out more important shit.

WBG: Can you see why I need to figure out calix/koshi???
Calix has almost exactly the same reads as me and is now trying to get the rayn trayn a running. However, Koshi is insisting that calix is scum and we're all stupid for not already knowing that.

So... I need to know whether calix is scum so I can figure out whether or not to reevaluate absolutely everything so far.

What are you thinking on this? I'm sorry for being fucking useless but I don't even know how to figure this shit out at all... especially while koshi isn't here.



Or god help us. Listen to HF and bugs and vote VE. -_- This game does sound completely diff from last game and far less collaborative, or hell, even an attempt at collaboration.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
May 21 2019 11:59 GMT
#1274
On May 21 2019 20:56 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2019 20:52 wherebugsgo wrote:
disfo, conversion, BC (especially BC, cause you came in with the intention of cleaning up the thread :D)

you're doing that classic town vs town vs town shitfest thing.

Let's back it up a bit, and come to an agreement that you all disagree with each other, and from this standpoint it looks like you're all arguing about completely pointless things when none of the things any of you are pointing out seem scummy to me.


I would like to do this.

I think we need to start working together more.

I'll start with this:

##Unvote


Right conversion, I still think you're scum but my vote will most likely land elsewhere. I'm fed of being being distracted with you putting me on the defensive while I'm trying to figure out more important shit.

WBG: Can you see why I need to figure out calix/koshi???
Calix has almost exactly the same reads as me and is now trying to get the rayn trayn a running. However, Koshi is insisting that calix is scum and we're all stupid for not already knowing that.

So... I need to know whether calix is scum so I can figure out whether or not to reevaluate absolutely everything so far.

What are you thinking on this? I'm sorry for being fucking useless but I don't even know how to figure this shit out at all... especially while koshi isn't here.



Stop dick-riding Koshi and come up with your OWN thoughts on me.

I'm right here. Go read my filter or whatever and talk to me. It's not rocket science.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 21 2019 11:59 GMT
#1275
I refuse to believe BC could be scum here

there is literally not a world in which BC as scum comes in and starts berating people for a horrible thread atmosphere. No offense BC but you're too lazy, and too smart, as scum to do that; if the thread is already chaos BC could just sit back and push from the sidelines. He's definitely 100% capable of doing that because he's one of the best scum players on this forum. In fact, I've played on the same team as him in which we would tag team towns-I naturally destroy threads, often regardless of alignment, and BC is a great instigator.

Here, he's not instigating anything, he's just trying to figure out the game.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
May 21 2019 12:01 GMT
#1276
I don't understand why VE is being considered over rayn. At least VE's actually playing the game.

A bunch of the points against VE seem to be meta-based, or based around 'well he'd usually do this but he's doing that instead' or something, and since I don't know VE, these points don't have much credibility with me tbh.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
May 21 2019 12:03 GMT
#1277
@BC my list got lost thanks unresponsive mobile website

the PoE comes down to one of rayn/koshi + disfo + someone else. i have you and wbg as town reads, jock sort of town because never do I see a jock-disfo team from early interactions, except he’s pissing me off for pushing me and saying he’s getting things done when he’s flailing and now he’s essentially soing what I did when Bugs appealed us to get our shitfighting over with

calix jumped off her p. strong scumread (me) fast because thread wasnt gaining traction so that’s really weird. also kind of opportunistic to think she can lynch HF without more consistent posting

I can feel ruxxar’s ideas, but his play is kind of erratic to me. unsure if I can pin him with a team, but he’s a null

koshi is scum read bc he’s playing rather meek. also gives me weird feelings when he’s not actively pushing me as scum. he always does that

thats my tldr. i have a LOT of work to do since I didn’t do anything but yell about disfo so let me read some shit ok?
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 21 2019 12:03 GMT
#1278
On May 21 2019 20:56 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2019 20:52 wherebugsgo wrote:
disfo, conversion, BC (especially BC, cause you came in with the intention of cleaning up the thread :D)

you're doing that classic town vs town vs town shitfest thing.

Let's back it up a bit, and come to an agreement that you all disagree with each other, and from this standpoint it looks like you're all arguing about completely pointless things when none of the things any of you are pointing out seem scummy to me.


I would like to do this.

I think we need to start working together more.

I'll start with this:

##Unvote


Right conversion, I still think you're scum but my vote will most likely land elsewhere. I'm fed of being being distracted with you putting me on the defensive while I'm trying to figure out more important shit.

WBG: Can you see why I need to figure out calix/koshi???
Calix has almost exactly the same reads as me and is now trying to get the rayn trayn a running. However, Koshi is insisting that calix is scum and we're all stupid for not already knowing that.

So... I need to know whether calix is scum so I can figure out whether or not to reevaluate absolutely everything so far.

What are you thinking on this? I'm sorry for being fucking useless but I don't even know how to figure this shit out at all... especially while koshi isn't here.



I mean I don't understand why you would even bother to read Koshi's posts at all. Reading his posts is more for entertainment purposes than anything else.

Although I will admit that I looked up Calix/Koshi history and the total number of games is 3, 2 where Calix is town with Koshi scum and 1 with the opposite. It would be pretty lulzy if it's opposite alignment again

At any rate Calix is probably not scum here. Trying to figure out the game + trying to get town to consolidate on someone. Rayn is actually a great lynch target. Hell, if you both have the same reads then that's a great sign that you're both town, especially if you have reasons that differ from Calix's but you reach the same conclusions.

Koshi I don't know how to read yet and that's why I keep saying we should just punt him. It's day 1 still, we don't need to get antsy about Koshi because we're not lynching him today. We're certainly not lynching Calix either.
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
May 21 2019 12:04 GMT
#1279
On May 21 2019 21:01 Calix wrote:
I don't understand why VE is being considered over rayn. At least VE's actually playing the game.

A bunch of the points against VE seem to be meta-based, or based around 'well he'd usually do this but he's doing that instead' or something, and since I don't know VE, these points don't have much credibility with me tbh.


TBH, its a vibe thing. I get completely why you think Rayn could flip red. I honestly can see it. I can also see the same world where VE is red atm as well.

Of those 2 VE scares the shit out of me if hes scum. He is one of the few players who can live almost forever when hes not town.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
May 21 2019 12:05 GMT
#1280
On May 21 2019 21:03 Conversion wrote:
@BC my list got lost thanks unresponsive mobile website

the PoE comes down to one of rayn/koshi + disfo + someone else. i have you and wbg as town reads, jock sort of town because never do I see a jock-disfo team from early interactions, except he’s pissing me off for pushing me and saying he’s getting things done when he’s flailing and now he’s essentially soing what I did when Bugs appealed us to get our shitfighting over with

calix jumped off her p. strong scumread (me) fast because thread wasnt gaining traction so that’s really weird. also kind of opportunistic to think she can lynch HF without more consistent posting

I can feel ruxxar’s ideas, but his play is kind of erratic to me. unsure if I can pin him with a team, but he’s a null

koshi is scum read bc he’s playing rather meek. also gives me weird feelings when he’s not actively pushing me as scum. he always does that

thats my tldr. i have a LOT of work to do since I didn’t do anything but yell about disfo so let me read some shit ok?


Honestly this is exactly what I wanted. Thank you. Im happy to leave you be for now.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
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