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On May 20 2019 21:13 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 20:55 Conversion wrote:On May 20 2019 15:21 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 20 2019 15:11 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 20 2019 15:07 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 20 2019 08:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I will predict Jockmcplop never arrives anymore to this thread.
P.S. i am awake from 7am until 11pm. Fuck you man. I'm here ask anything you want. I'm also grumpy in the mornings. Would you kill ruxxar? If no, why not? What about disformation and Calix? Those are the three options I am presenting today, and if you want my rationale you can check my previous posts. We aren’t killing rayn day 1. I can't figure out why you would want to kill ruxxar. Looking through your filter there's a post where you say its because of something he said but didn't quote it. I really, genuinely don't have time to go ook it up in the thread but man I can't see anything that really jumps out at me as scummy. Yet. Disinformation:
I don't really like his posting. Its a little scummy to pick on reads that other people are making without making any of your own so he is certainly in the scumlean pile.Calix That first post was horrible. Later on he is posting things that make a little bit of sense. I'm interested in the VE/rayn setup idea, although I'm also open to that literally just being VE knowing that rayn would shit up the thread because he always does this. On May 20 2019 19:41 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 20 2019 19:38 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 20 2019 18:39 disformation wrote:On May 20 2019 08:28 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 20 2019 07:29 disformation wrote:On May 20 2019 07:25 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
List of shit because I want to.
Town reads
VE
HF (god help me)
Mafia reads
Ruxxar
Calix
Disinformation
Null
Everyone else where is jock? or are you withholding that read (i am super curious after you asked everyone to comment on it) until everyone commented on it? -.- What is your read on Jock? And what do you think of Conversion coming in and calling you flaky? flaky is a new one. usually people say things like "waffly" "unoriginal" "no reads" etc. And I don't think I did a lot of stuff in this game so far so *shrugs*. hmm good point but x” “this is true but y” is basically my play style so I suspect he is going to scum read me a lot? interested to see if he follows up on the meta though. jock is complicated for me atm. will do a post after lunch to explain. On May 20 2019 16:58 Koshi wrote:
I also ignore jock his posts. Which is dangerous but w.e highway to the danger zone right into the danger zone great now i have an ear worm I don't like this post. Seems to inject some silly lightheartedness in there at the end but it sounds forced. As if its saying 'LIKE ME GUYS'. Does this seem off to anyone else? Not saying he's scum but it caught my attention at least. why does he go from a scumlean to you finding a post about him and taking an ironically passive stance on disfo, something you’re calling me out for.. Disfo is still a scumlean but hasn't done anything that screams scum. Its mostly just for a general lack of good posts. One good post at this point would probably change my mind so I'm not inclined to vote for disfo on that basis. Honestly that second bit you quoted isn't something I'm very confident about. I would be a bit foolish to call someone out for being scum because I found thought they were being over friendly like that in one single post. Its too hard to tell the difference between over friendly and friendly on a forum post. If it was a pattern then yeah. I just pointed it out because I'm at work and don't have my notes with me so it makes it easier to write up ontes when i get home if I literally quote every single post that catches my attention. Its very different to your case because you have not done anything AND the one read you did make you made a weird excuse for why it could be wrong. That gives me strong scummy vibes. I wasn't really calling you out for being afk (iirc i said that's not scummy on its own) it was more just support for my case.
this, this is the post that makes Jock-disfo not likely. this is just a bad post to me if ur scum together
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On May 20 2019 23:56 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 23:54 Conversion wrote:On May 20 2019 23:53 Calix wrote:On May 20 2019 23:51 Conversion wrote:
disfo what is your state of the game right now? literally all I'm seeing is you prodding things and 0 conclusive anythings
who do you watn to lynch? do you agree with bugs and we should lynch ruxxar? what about jock's point on me? anything? I shall pose similar questions to you since I don't know your thoughts on many of the players. What other reads do you have that you have SOME confidence in? I don't need thoughts on other players, I have caught scum in disformation and am currently meta diving him. I invite you to join me and lynch scum with fire I'm currently voting for you, lol. So I'm not letting you off the hook with "woo, free tunnel on disfo" m8
I don't care about your vote tbh I have 24+ hours to convince people to lynch scum, not play nice with town
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On May 20 2019 23:58 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 23:57 Conversion wrote:On May 20 2019 23:56 Calix wrote:On May 20 2019 23:54 Conversion wrote:On May 20 2019 23:53 Calix wrote:On May 20 2019 23:51 Conversion wrote:
disfo what is your state of the game right now? literally all I'm seeing is you prodding things and 0 conclusive anythings
who do you watn to lynch? do you agree with bugs and we should lynch ruxxar? what about jock's point on me? anything? I shall pose similar questions to you since I don't know your thoughts on many of the players. What other reads do you have that you have SOME confidence in? I don't need thoughts on other players, I have caught scum in disformation and am currently meta diving him. I invite you to join me and lynch scum with fire I'm currently voting for you, lol. So I'm not letting you off the hook with "woo, free tunnel on disfo" m8 I don't care about your vote tbh I have 24+ hours to convince people to lynch scum, not play nice with town You can say that but it won't hide the "lack of other substantial reads outside of scum!disfo", friend. But thanks for admitting I'm town 
the town was an address to a larger group.. I'd like to think you're a bit smarter than trying to nitpick on semantics, Calix
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On May 20 2019 23:56 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 23:55 Conversion wrote:
The only thing I'd comment on is that I do not think Jock is mafia, and I think he is even less mafia if disfo flips mafia. either that or Jock made a huge misstep in poorly defending disformation I've not really tried to defend disfo as far as i remember. I jsut think you are more likely to be mafia form what i've read so far. Doesn't mean I think disfo is town.
I'm going to make one comment to you, and then ignore you for the rest of the day.
reasons why are below:
1) you are stumbling trying to make points on different people, and you are misconstruing a lot of people's stances.
2) I have 0 idea why you think me pushing of disformation is more scummy than me when he still has not posted anything on what he thinks the relative state of the game is
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I wasn't supposed to hit post, that early, but you're also being a piece of shit and telling me that I played end of the world when I was basically looking for a replacement since I got fired, and then trying to tell me I'm appealing to emotion. so fuck you Jock
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On May 21 2019 00:03 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2019 00:00 Conversion wrote:On May 20 2019 23:58 Calix wrote:On May 20 2019 23:57 Conversion wrote:On May 20 2019 23:56 Calix wrote:On May 20 2019 23:54 Conversion wrote:On May 20 2019 23:53 Calix wrote:On May 20 2019 23:51 Conversion wrote:
disfo what is your state of the game right now? literally all I'm seeing is you prodding things and 0 conclusive anythings
who do you watn to lynch? do you agree with bugs and we should lynch ruxxar? what about jock's point on me? anything? I shall pose similar questions to you since I don't know your thoughts on many of the players. What other reads do you have that you have SOME confidence in? I don't need thoughts on other players, I have caught scum in disformation and am currently meta diving him. I invite you to join me and lynch scum with fire I'm currently voting for you, lol. So I'm not letting you off the hook with "woo, free tunnel on disfo" m8 I don't care about your vote tbh I have 24+ hours to convince people to lynch scum, not play nice with town You can say that but it won't hide the "lack of other substantial reads outside of scum!disfo", friend. But thanks for admitting I'm town the town was an address to a larger group.. I'd like to think you're a bit smarter than trying to nitpick on semantics, Calix ITT: Mafia!Conversion repeatedly refuses to give any other substantial reads, prefers to make a forced tunnel on disformation and use horrible pre-flip association 'reads' which say literally nothing since they're pre-flip.
ITT: Calix piggybacks off someone's scum read and then does nothing but tunnel in on to Conversion, and instead of working to convince other people that I am scum, is happily shit-flinging the thread and not entertaining other ideas
I can make you sound like mafia too
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On May 21 2019 00:02 Jockmcplop wrote:
Y'know your the second person in here to say they're gonna ignore me (koshi backed off that quickly tho) but that genuinely makes you look like scum.
so tell me why disformation IGNORING ME FOR THE PAST 40 PAGES NOT MAKE HIM SCUM
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On May 21 2019 00:05 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2019 00:04 Conversion wrote:On May 21 2019 00:03 Calix wrote:On May 21 2019 00:00 Conversion wrote:On May 20 2019 23:58 Calix wrote:On May 20 2019 23:57 Conversion wrote:On May 20 2019 23:56 Calix wrote:On May 20 2019 23:54 Conversion wrote:On May 20 2019 23:53 Calix wrote:On May 20 2019 23:51 Conversion wrote:
disfo what is your state of the game right now? literally all I'm seeing is you prodding things and 0 conclusive anythings
who do you watn to lynch? do you agree with bugs and we should lynch ruxxar? what about jock's point on me? anything? I shall pose similar questions to you since I don't know your thoughts on many of the players. What other reads do you have that you have SOME confidence in? I don't need thoughts on other players, I have caught scum in disformation and am currently meta diving him. I invite you to join me and lynch scum with fire I'm currently voting for you, lol. So I'm not letting you off the hook with "woo, free tunnel on disfo" m8 I don't care about your vote tbh I have 24+ hours to convince people to lynch scum, not play nice with town You can say that but it won't hide the "lack of other substantial reads outside of scum!disfo", friend. But thanks for admitting I'm town the town was an address to a larger group.. I'd like to think you're a bit smarter than trying to nitpick on semantics, Calix ITT: Mafia!Conversion repeatedly refuses to give any other substantial reads, prefers to make a forced tunnel on disformation and use horrible pre-flip association 'reads' which say literally nothing since they're pre-flip. ITT: Calix piggybacks off someone's scum read and then does nothing but tunnel in on to Conversion, and instead of working to convince other people that I am scum, is happily shit-flinging the thread and not entertaining other ideas I can make you sound like mafia too But do you think I'm mafia?
roll a d20 and add your deception bonus. if you beat a 9, then you can be whatever you want
Roll(1d20)+0:
9,+0
Total
if you want an actual opinion, I think the thread ramped up against you really quickly and also died really quickly. not sure what to make of that, but disfo needs to die today and then I'll look into who defended you/who pushed you and fell flat and moved elsewhere
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but again, not really focused anywhere else and if that makes me scum then so be it
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interestingly enough I have played with disformation more than I thought
two recent games I'm meta diving here: classic (disfo mafia)and vendee (disfo town, replaced in after N1)
the thing with disfo here, from what I'm reading, is that he generally sounds the same (to which I think rayn alluded to when he was telling me disfo sounds the same either way)
the thing is I'm more inclined to believe disfo is mafia here because it's been almost 48hrs and he hasn't done one productive thing all game
let's take a look at Vendee:
vendee
+ Show Spoiler +On February 08 2018 05:25 disformation wrote:
also a random thought i had:
if i remember correctly: the rs wagon was for a long time the only serious one around, so i want to look at ppl who hoped onto that easily/meekily so that they look like they were doing/pushing someone. On February 08 2018 05:43 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 21:29 Conversion wrote:
I am awake and a lot has happened. I have glanced at new content, but will not post opinions and thoughts in case I miss something or make a mistake again until I am in front of a computer. It looks as if some people are moving away from a rsoultin lynch, could I get a quick summary of that? Besides Koshi, who is hard townreading rsoultin right now.
Also would like suggestions on who I should filter dive so I am not aimlessly diving people and wasting my time, if my thoughts would be valuable here.
@Mderg I need more from you. Your posts lack content, if you’re town. Where’s your head at for the rest of D1?
flagged for possible teammate interaction. aware you are both in thread and mderg isnt doing too hot? your waffles on mderg dont look too bad imo. i have more of an issue that you basically had no reads? like first 2 pages of your filter you only directly have a read on rsoultin then you add mderg and prpl to your scumpile. heavily implied strong tr on koshi though On February 08 2018 06:51 disformation wrote:
ritoky afks his vote on mderg fairly early in the day. says we could default lynch him instead for shennies. dont think that is likely to come from scum.
hf was hammer on scum. and even if both wagons are scum i think a scum!hf would have played this day differently.
outside of that it is a bit hard to tell imo. kinda depends on whether rsoultin is really scum or not. I'm not going to go on a wall of quotes here, but what I'm seeing is lots of transparent thoughts in solving the game, without PRODDING. that's the big thing here, disfo this game has done nothing but majorly prodding. no real original thoughts tbh, just lots of questions won't share who he wants to lynch, won't comment on wagons, doesn't defend anyone, he tries to slink off into the background stuff like this in the current game On May 20 2019 23:57 disformation wrote:
currently looking at ruxxar. doesnt seem like a bad vote target.
other option would be to sheep ve and hf onto igrok.
want to see bc to explain the stuff surrounding his jock quote, think that will heavily influence my opinion on him.
fairly null on you tbh. translates to "ruxxar is meh, I'll vote him maybe, or I'll sheep to igro, but you are null. he just seems very opportunistic and not trying to solve the game he only really comes in when questioned/asked as well, I'm not seeing any proactivity in scum hunting in his posts
now let's look at his mafia game
classic
+ Show Spoiler +On March 20 2018 16:36 disformation wrote:
not sure what to about mocsta. I like that he is like looking at ppl that are not much talked about (tocktock).
but then both tocktock and ylk look like okayish to me, so I am not sure if he is just making stuff up to post. On March 21 2018 21:34 disformation wrote:@rs: did look at the host revenge game. slam looked very different to here. i also don't think he would care that much about ppl voting him that much normally. but as a question: does it look different from only his town games or both his town and scum games? dont recall any scum slam games I was, link me a good one? though if the theory works then slam should think you are town for voting him early. as scum tries to keep him alive for long. the thing is, he hasn't posted about that theory thing recently hasnt he? maybe he forgot? so the question would be: @slam: chupazi theory or: Show nested quote +On March 21 2018 13:52 Alakaslam wrote:On March 21 2018 07:46 Mocsta wrote:
So... im in an odd predicament
(1) I have an important dinner tonight so wont be able to critically read anything
(2) Where I work has been thrown in an unplanned shutdown.. I really dont know if I can commit the time to apply critical thought.
I still think Day1 comes down to resolutions on the big topics:
Slam
Moosy
Ex0/KSC,
Koshi/Disfo/n00bking,
DF
Rest is probably side distractions.
My current (albeit loose) thoughts are:
Above null pile (Ex0_, rsoultin, vivax, rayn, Kelsier, ykl, disinfo, Palmar
Null pile (HF, Conversion, Slam, darthfoley, Rels, tictock, sicklucker, koshi, moosy)
Below null pile (n00bking)
Of the above null, I feel least strong about disinfo as its based on a heuristic that is gut feel only.
Conversion is in null pile as I havent focused on anything he has said.
Slam I would still need to meta-dive.
DF I actually like, but I give pause since so many others have issue. I wouldnt lynch today, and would prefer not to use a bullet on.
tictock is in null pile as I was surprised by the content since waking. Maybe im selfish, but I was quite surprised he didnt ask me anything.
moosy i agree is not on the table Day1. Could be easy mislynch; so focus on other scum team.
Apologies to leave it like this. Like shit I’m a big topic still. Consider lynching me like lynching little Blazinghand. I am really actually quite good; I’m just too nervous to ditch the façade just yet. Also, late game I wifom myself to the 5th level so I become easily influenced again. So I’m a mid game player. Give me the mid game, and I’ll benefit. I really shine when you throw me in at the middle. But lynching me early is just a waste. Say I were actually mafia even. Do you really think I am a good day one lynch mafia player? I am shit at pushing a real lynch I actually believe in (read last game! I couldn’t even do it with HF’s dogged help, and he is one of the best!) so what real use am I to a scumteam? Except to bus. So now, if you’re pushing me as scum? Consider this. As your scummate, (lol), I just took away your ability to bus me without heavily implicating yourself- EVERYONE KNOWS MY POINT IS RIGHT; I AM A GREAT BUSSING TARGET. SO NOW YOU INCRIMINATE YOURSELF. You ask, “lol slam cracked poor guy” in the QT, “how the hell does he think this will implicate us with his flip?” Here’s the kicker. Town, if you push me with genuine intent on me being scum, you are a lazy ass and deserve to lose. I am, if not THE least, one of the least influential players on this forum- I SAY BAR NONE, and challenge you to lift my spirits a bit and prove me wrong. So when I flip town? You deserve to be suspected. BAM MAFIA GOTTA BACK OFF. which one is it? but i am not gonna lie, between him being very different and him being apparently fairly upset by that vote, he makes me nervous. On March 21 2018 21:56 disformation wrote:
rayn's overall filter is kinda meh. doesn't look horrible on a glance, but has not a lot of impact either. his reason to vote me checks out. also seems to be very busy.
rayn has fooled me before though so i'll reserve the right to some paranoia.
not sure if i would want to lynch him for that d1, but if his filter is still meh and he has had no impact on a later day, i would heavily recommend lynching him. On March 21 2018 22:08 disformation wrote:
nah. don't have a problem with rs's filter. have no meta with/on her though. On March 21 2018 22:25 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2018 22:20 rsoultin wrote:
Okay, tbf, my read on you was back and forth.
Namely, you've only been focused on noob. You don't seem to be trying to suss out other alignments. That is scummy.
Caveats are: scumreading for his entrance wasn't bad
you could be tunneled town
But frankly, even tunneled town usually bother to attempt to make other reads even as they're tunneling. yeah i think that was my prob with conv as well. he had like 2 reads. just to organize my thought: town(ish) (no order): tocktock vivi ksc rs mocsta way too many nulls/meh/bleh ppl. he does a better job blending in Classic than he is here, actually. tries to at least LOOK like he's putting in some effort, but looking at his game here, it just does exactly what he's doing here, just better he's blending in, throwing out some "reads" here and there, but falls flat in taking a strong stance in really anything
I just feel like it's the same sort of weird tonal meta read I had with rsoul in Vendee and the meta diving for me encapsulates disformation very clearly here: demotivated, trying to stay hidden and posting for the sake of posting (lots of prodding, evades conclusive questions, not really sure what real objective he has for D1 still to this hour)
I'd just like to reiterate here that I do not think Jock-Disfo can be a team from the way they are playing.
I'll look into ruxxar next since he did kind of just go "u tried" and ran away
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Just got back home from work fuck me nine ways to sunday
going to read up on ruxxar as I promised. also think we should still lynch disfo
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ruxxar:
+ Show Spoiler +On May 20 2019 04:47 ruXxar wrote:
sup guys, long time no see. skimmed through the thread, dont remember all the specifics.
i dont wanna lynch the active people, cause they make the game fun.
- jockmcplop is top town, he speaks from his heart.
- hf looks townie, i love when he gets riled up.
- VE seems aight, could be deviously smart mafia.
- rayn attacking jockmcplop is dumb, and his fumbling to explain his first post was meh, dont make him mafia tho.
- bugs looks aigh tish.
- i dont like calix. seem stiff and too sure of himself. looks like hes posting with perferct information.
already certain of his opinons, and just tries to find the best angle to defend them.
##Vote calix ok starts off pretty much sprinting out of the gate, calling calix scum let’s see where the leads to On May 20 2019 06:54 ruXxar wrote:
@rayn did your opinion on calix change or what? asks rayn if his opinion changes, but like 30 posts ago rayn was ranting about how Calix was mafia? not sure what the point of this jab was TBH.. doesn’t look like he follows it up either On May 20 2019 15:50 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 15:25 wherebugsgo wrote:Jock, here: On May 20 2019 10:44 wherebugsgo wrote:man I hate when I'm timeboxed for decisions. I've got one I've got to make before the 27th and I'd rather just punt it for 6 months but people are impatient /rl rant On May 20 2019 09:45 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 20 2019 08:59 wherebugsgo wrote:
I’ve got a meeting in 3 minutes.
VE, BC while I’m gone sheep me on ruxxar or explain why you don’t want to
Also define who’s a thread skimmer/lurker this game and rank them on kill priority I'm gonna pass on that one. A) You've given literally no reasoning that I can see for your vote aside from "for that one post alone" which, filtering you in isolation, I can't even see which it is. So... B) I filtered ruxxar and found that his posting seems internally consistent, and relatively comprehensive as far as "what you should know about me" posts go. It feels this side of townie to me. I'm not going to rank lurkers on kill priority, that's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard what are you even fucking doing? you're right, I didn't post reasons for ruxxar, mostly because I put too much faith in people actually going back to read his only post of any real substance and it being self-explanatory from his entrance. It's quite simple: On May 20 2019 04:47 ruXxar wrote:
sup guys, long time no see. skimmed through the thread, dont remember all the specifics.
i dont wanna lynch the active people, cause they make the game fun.
- jockmcplop is top town, he speaks from his heart.
- hf looks townie, i love when he gets riled up.
- VE seems aight, could be deviously smart mafia.
- rayn attacking jockmcplop is dumb, and his fumbling to explain his first post was meh, dont make him mafia tho.
- bugs looks aigh tish.
- i dont like calix. seem stiff and too sure of himself. looks like hes posting with perferct information.
already certain of his opinons, and just tries to find the best angle to defend them.
##Vote calix 3 things that stand out: 1. Doesn't want to lynch active people but isn't actively involved either. In fact there's almost a hidden implication that ruxxar doesn't intend to be active in that statement 2. First 5 bullets come off as "I need to post some reads so I can continue skating by so let me summarize some basics and say things others probably would agree with" 3. Calix vote justification looks forced and justification for the sake of justification. When Calix responded by saying "yeah well, it looks like that way because I'm sheeping" ruxxar's only response was to concede that the pronouns were wrong. The tl;dr is that my read is on the basis of ruxxar’s entrance post plus his reaction to the resistance that Calix put up. You dont like my entry post but seem just entirely fine with calix list post. Of course you do when he calls you town lmao kinda omgusy defense towards bugs here On May 20 2019 16:42 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 16:01 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 20 2019 15:50 ruXxar wrote:On May 20 2019 15:25 wherebugsgo wrote:Jock, here: On May 20 2019 10:44 wherebugsgo wrote:man I hate when I'm timeboxed for decisions. I've got one I've got to make before the 27th and I'd rather just punt it for 6 months but people are impatient /rl rant On May 20 2019 09:45 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 20 2019 08:59 wherebugsgo wrote:
I’ve got a meeting in 3 minutes.
VE, BC while I’m gone sheep me on ruxxar or explain why you don’t want to
Also define who’s a thread skimmer/lurker this game and rank them on kill priority I'm gonna pass on that one. A) You've given literally no reasoning that I can see for your vote aside from "for that one post alone" which, filtering you in isolation, I can't even see which it is. So... B) I filtered ruxxar and found that his posting seems internally consistent, and relatively comprehensive as far as "what you should know about me" posts go. It feels this side of townie to me. I'm not going to rank lurkers on kill priority, that's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard what are you even fucking doing? you're right, I didn't post reasons for ruxxar, mostly because I put too much faith in people actually going back to read his only post of any real substance and it being self-explanatory from his entrance. It's quite simple: On May 20 2019 04:47 ruXxar wrote:
sup guys, long time no see. skimmed through the thread, dont remember all the specifics.
i dont wanna lynch the active people, cause they make the game fun.
- jockmcplop is top town, he speaks from his heart.
- hf looks townie, i love when he gets riled up.
- VE seems aight, could be deviously smart mafia.
- rayn attacking jockmcplop is dumb, and his fumbling to explain his first post was meh, dont make him mafia tho.
- bugs looks aigh tish.
- i dont like calix. seem stiff and too sure of himself. looks like hes posting with perferct information.
already certain of his opinons, and just tries to find the best angle to defend them.
##Vote calix 3 things that stand out: 1. Doesn't want to lynch active people but isn't actively involved either. In fact there's almost a hidden implication that ruxxar doesn't intend to be active in that statement 2. First 5 bullets come off as "I need to post some reads so I can continue skating by so let me summarize some basics and say things others probably would agree with" 3. Calix vote justification looks forced and justification for the sake of justification. When Calix responded by saying "yeah well, it looks like that way because I'm sheeping" ruxxar's only response was to concede that the pronouns were wrong. The tl;dr is that my read is on the basis of ruxxar’s entrance post plus his reaction to the resistance that Calix put up. You dont like my entry post but seem just entirely fine with calix list post. Of course you do when he calls you town lmao Your reaction to resistance on your vote vs Calix's reaction are pretty worlds apart. Hell, even the posts themselves are pretty different. When someone cites another post as part of their rationale in a way that makes sense, and manage to do this very consistently, I find it less likely they are scum. You didn't do that, did you? Now, what's odd is that you are calling me out for calling one list post bad, but not the other. You want me to look away from your scumminess at someone else...who according to you, did a very similar thing to you? Anyway, enough about you. The choices I'm presenting people with that aren't you are disformation and Calix. Given that I think your reason for voting Calix isn't valid, and you just basically said both your post AND Calix's post were scummy, I'd like to hear what you think about disformation. Failing that, talk to me about conversion's push on disformation. If you can't do either of those things then I'll narrow the list and recommend everyone just lynch you and you only. So is calix scummy or not? Make up your mind. You say im scummy for reading calix as scum, but now youre calling calix scum also. #galaxybrain bugs makes a pretty big post, ruxxar kind of just shitposts back at him? which is funny because he said we’s not trying to shit up the thread On May 21 2019 01:39 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2019 00:22 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 21 2019 00:20 ruXxar wrote:
ya know, i gotta give you credit for tunneling hard bugs, at least youre trying.
im home now so i can answer any questions you have. On May 20 2019 16:01 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 20 2019 15:55 ruXxar wrote:
I do the same shit when im mafia, playing the “knowitlall good guy mafiiso armchair hunter #1” Then please go ahead and point out such a post in a past scum game of yours. It shouldn't be terribly hard for you to do that if you're telling the truth. Feel free to explain at this point who you'd kill and why. I have my doubts you'll make much sense, though. so i spent about an hour reading through filters to refresh and condense my thoughts. tbh my opnions didnt change much. new development being koshis entry and seeming fairly townish. im starting to dislike jock a lot, his thread presence is annoying and erratic, i wish he would calm down and focus. my scum read on calix remains, though i liked her post on conversion. speaking of: im sensing some fake agression from conversion. might be tryharding to imitate town meta. i could be swayed to vote conversion today. this part is hilarious. bugs wanted ruxxar to talk to him (bugs) about me (conversion), but ruxxar just shits on him, comes back like 5 hours later or whatever and suddenly I’m a scum lean. wtf? On May 21 2019 06:02 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2019 03:40 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On May 20 2019 23:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On May 20 2019 23:25 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like I get it, they're two different things, HF's claim last game and the way rayn phrased his intro this game, and they're like apples to oranges or whatever, but it seems like BC is referring to more the mindset behind it all, like someone who fakeclaims the way HF did last game wouldn't/shouldn't be all up in rayns ass the way he is for what he is - not necessarily drawing a direct parallel between the two occurrences, but more commenting on the mindset that drives them both. I disagree that it necessarily means that HF should die, but I can kinda see where he's coming from. From what I recall BC's mafia game tends to be more stand-offish and abrasive than his town game, and it feels like he's doing just that. Are you not bothered by him driving the Calix point home for following thread sentiment in a wordy manner whilst literally following thread sentiment? Wait wait wait? Let me get this straight. In a thread where basically only 2 people (one of which I was the first to really scum read) being rayn and ruxxar all saw Calix as scum. Where at a time, Rayn was getting shit on from the entire thread. I was pushing thread sentiment? I was stopping a shit show of cluttering of the thread as best I could. Ruxxar? Thread sentiment? Literally the first to bring him up. Disinformation? same basic thing. So basically fuck you artanis. I tried to keep people off you so you could come back and at least do something. I give next to 0 fucks you chose to filter dive me cause well its at least productive but for you to completely read the thread wrong means you skim read, didnt read, or chose to fabricate shit. ESPECIALLY when you filter dive me. Sorry, if you outright say you are reading my filter, I expect you to read the thread at the time of my postings, otherwise you are legit making shit up. So you wanted me to read you? You can join the mafia side of my list.
Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 04:47 ruXxar wrote:
sup guys, long time no see. skimmed through the thread, dont remember all the specifics.
i dont wanna lynch the active people, cause they make the game fun.
- jockmcplop is top town, he speaks from his heart.
- hf looks townie, i love when he gets riled up.
- VE seems aight, could be deviously smart mafia.
- rayn attacking jockmcplop is dumb, and his fumbling to explain his first post was meh, dont make him mafia tho.
- bugs looks aigh tish.
- i dont like calix. seem stiff and too sure of himself. looks like hes posting with perferct information.
already certain of his opinons, and just tries to find the best angle to defend them.
##Vote calix Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 05:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:I am not sure i will bother to play a game with this amount of retarded people. Yes, it's fucking retarded when you are clearly being cased regardless of whatever Holyflare says afterwards and people won't accept your completely reasonable and easily truth-checkable explanation. I also find it completely unreasonable that people continue with their bullshit on me based on "rayn ahs no opinions" after i gave my opinion on everyone who had posted so far in the game. When everyone else's only real read was a stupidass shitread on me based on fucking nothing. So keep your stupid little circle jerk and dont talk to me please. Unless you're VE or Artanis. Bugs can go to Acrofales pile if he is town and sadly i am not even sure he is not. Acrofales pile is a pile where people who i thought very high of earlier but turns out they are not good town players after all go.Everything he posts is just so fucking wrong and he is even trying to coach me or some shit. I could't care less what the dude writes, because it's jsut straight out BS out of his keyboard, seems like the pattern from last game continues. + Show Spoiler +On May 11 2019 06:56 wherebugsgo wrote:
likewise, 13/10 would ignore both rayn and HF again rayn voted: D1 - mafia bugs voted: D1 - town D2 - town D3 - town D4 - town i laughed at that comment for liek 10 minutes. for real. gonna vote for mafia again. ##vote Calix When you have these two posts in the thread then making the following post on calix is not exactly a bold original idea. It could be construed as trying to get a second wagon started without risking yourself. Do notice that both me and rayn voted for calix. But bloody despite calling her post «screaming fucking mafia» did not join voting. Perhaps waiting to see if thread sentiment would build further onto calix first. Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 06:18 BloodyC0bbler wrote:honestly thought this was going to start you know, not when it did. As I am just finishing the catch up so far. Anyone who liked the fact HF started the vote train and swing onto rayn based off the Town Vanilla post should be shooting HF with a gun. Why? Because HF claims / fake claims shit every fucking game and gets pissed if you lynch him off it. If someones whos moto is to be a troll with claims decides to start any form of suspicion on someone for any style of claim he deserves to be doused in fire and die. Now. If you voted for Rayn for anything after his claim and before Calix appeared in the thread, you are in the clear for now. Calix imo screams fucking mafia. His first post, Which I will quote here just to bring it back to the forefront On May 19 2019 22:38 Calix wrote:
Hi.
HF/ Jock said a lot of what I was going to say so I don't have much new to add. They're currently my top town-reads because of that and I'm happy to sheep them.
I like WBG's #220, that looks like a post a townie would make when they're trying to be reasonable and not just jump down their suspect's throat.
Personally, I don't like how rayn has been acting during his latest interaction with Jock. Jock's been on the offensive and looking really townie while rayn's responses have been lacking.
(I don't care about the role stuff. It has nothing to do with my vote)
##vote raynpelikoneet this post is extremely fucking scummy. His entire post screams thread sentiment while offering nothing new, gives a shitty reason to drop a vote. He "red" reads rayn for being lacking while his entire post is lacking anything but "certainty" then spends the rest of his time basically doing nothing aside from "keep voting rayn" while offering nothing new before vanishing. if I read this out of context it looks like a townie trying.
I think I’m starting to see a little bit of people’s issues with ruxxar— it almost feels like he has a disconnect with his ideas and his actions. he doesn’t seem to engage with the thread in any way, throws out a bunch of reads, and without that engagement I can see why he looks scummy.
hmm give me a good night’s rest to sleep and recharge and I’ll reread my thing and some other cases on him (if you could be so kind to point it out some cases, I don’t have to waste extra time digging through the thread)
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disfo is sooo mafia though. like he just unvoted with 24 hours left in a 72 hour day for what. I still have 0 idea on what he wants to accomplish today besides asking a bunch of questions. at least in the meta where he was town he was actively posting questions to himself to be transparent that he's solving the game. i guess he's kidn of being contrarian to the ruxxar point. cause scum buddies, or TMI so he can look good if ruxxar flips?
dude is just apologetic and in the background. can someone explain to me why ruxxar is more mafia mafia when disfo is doing just as much hiding? is it cause he's more active?
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it also feels soo bad when a player only responds to a case without ever addressing any of the other reasons why I scum read him. that case alone isn't why i scum read disfo-- it's his inaction and general laziness and people are OK with him chilling out, but aren't with others. I've asked him like minimum two times now about what his thoughts were and who he wants to lynch, and he's just ducked it until he could nitpick my case and ignore everything else I posted thus far
im so confused
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Just woke up and sort of caught up
what are town goals today?
@Jock you are horribly misconstruing my filter YET AGAIN. I’m inclined to believe that you’re bordering on scum trying to save ruxxar or disformation. you gave me shit for tunneling, and when I try and lsiten to others to have thoughts you call that out as well. do you want to 1:1 coach me so you can townread me? like wtf.
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koshi not calling me scum or bad is statiscally proven that he is scum btw. dude will never let go of his ego to try and lynch me as scum when he’s town. I’m 99% sure on this, will have data to back it up once I’m showering and going into work
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On May 21 2019 20:12 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2019 20:10 Conversion wrote:
Just woke up and sort of caught up
what are town goals today?
@Jock you are horribly misconstruing my filter YET AGAIN. I’m inclined to believe that you’re bordering on scum trying to save ruxxar or disformation. you gave me shit for tunneling, and when I try and lsiten to others to have thoughts you call that out as well. do you want to 1:1 coach me so you can townread me? like wtf. It makes sense to me though. You also noticed you were tunelling disfo, and then went to the next easiest target with a half arsed post that agreed with the overwhelming thread sentiment at that time. Tell me you didn't do that?! You still have time to be townish. Just be townish. My vote isn't dead set.
easiest post? WBG asked me to untunnel, so I read a filter and put my opinions on it. you on the other hand, what have you done?
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On May 21 2019 20:11 Conversion wrote:
koshi not calling me scum or bad is statiscally proven that he is scum btw. dude will never let go of his ego to try and lynch me as scum when he’s town. I’m 99% sure on this, will have data to back it up once I’m showering and going into work
nvm he pushed me pretty hard as scum when I was town and he was scum in chill hop so this no longer holds any water
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On May 21 2019 20:18 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
The jock read has been explained in thread, however it was by bugs.
The entire premise of me asking people (specifically the ones I was asking) was to try and recreate something we made last game that was well, helpful even if we were wrong at points.
Also as for you? You have provided nothing of value to the thread, maintain activity levels, but basically don't do anything to help further a lynch / find possible mafia. This is clearly how I see your posting. Others clearly could see it differently.
Also how about for a change you actually post who you think is mafia? Hell theres enough of a thread. If you could lynch 1 of 3 people right now, list them.
Also Conversion I ask you the same question. Who are your top 3 scum reads and why
I’m spending a good chunk of this day getting a better hold of who I trust and who I don’t since I spent the last 48hrs tunneling andapparently that makes me mafia.
also heading into work now brb
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On May 21 2019 20:28 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2019 20:24 Conversion wrote:On May 21 2019 20:18 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
The jock read has been explained in thread, however it was by bugs.
The entire premise of me asking people (specifically the ones I was asking) was to try and recreate something we made last game that was well, helpful even if we were wrong at points.
Also as for you? You have provided nothing of value to the thread, maintain activity levels, but basically don't do anything to help further a lynch / find possible mafia. This is clearly how I see your posting. Others clearly could see it differently.
Also how about for a change you actually post who you think is mafia? Hell theres enough of a thread. If you could lynch 1 of 3 people right now, list them.
Also Conversion I ask you the same question. Who are your top 3 scum reads and why I’m spending a good chunk of this day getting a better hold of who I trust and who I don’t since I spent the last 48hrs tunneling andapparently that makes me mafia. also heading into work now brb Hey everyone, Keep a note at this reply please. Its not fully damning but it not looking good. Hey Disinformation. Your turn. Name your top 3 scum reads and why
how is that not good? are you serious. my entire filter is calling disfo scum, and the MAJORITY of people in the game are telling me (some which I believe to be town atm) that I’m wrong and to look elsewhere.
you have Jock on your list crying about how I’m scum and being flimsy as fuck and not really looking into anything else yet you don’t question him/find him suspicious?
this game man..
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