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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 24 2019 20:43 GMT
#3701
On May 25 2019 05:41 Holyflare wrote:
Do we buy that I made rayn demotivated d1 when his jock read got proven correct and he's suffering ever since?


Think we might have to for now.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 24 2019 20:43 GMT
#3702
BC made the worst logic posts. With voting ruxx over Calix. Still so unhappy with that.
I had a good night of sleep.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
May 24 2019 20:43 GMT
#3703
Lol
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
May 24 2019 20:43 GMT
#3704
K
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 24 2019 20:43 GMT
#3705
On May 25 2019 05:42 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2019 05:41 Holyflare wrote:
Do we buy that I made rayn demotivated d1 when his jock read got proven correct and he's suffering ever since?

He correctly hard reads Koshi town for nothing. Risky if mafia



He did before the nk too didn't he? Don't see how it would change. Probably more risky to say he doesn't town read koshi if he's mafia.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
May 24 2019 20:44 GMT
#3706
Just no bitching about no contribution from VE K?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 24 2019 20:46 GMT
#3707
I still don't think this igrok lynch is bad tbh only reason I'm entertaining other people is out of courtesy to koshi.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 24 2019 20:46 GMT
#3708
I mean, he's present while we're doing all this and all he contributed was a quote from an old game about bug spray? Asked for some pertinent posts in the game and did nothing with it? Surely he's the one that's tracking all that stuff in his list?
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
May 24 2019 20:47 GMT
#3709
On May 25 2019 05:43 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2019 05:42 VisceraEyes wrote:
On May 25 2019 05:41 Holyflare wrote:
Do we buy that I made rayn demotivated d1 when his jock read got proven correct and he's suffering ever since?

He correctly hard reads Koshi town for nothing. Risky if mafia



He did before the nk too didn't he? Don't see how it would change. Probably more risky to say he doesn't town read koshi if he's mafia.

Lol why? That reads as clueless townie if he calls Koshi mad there. Koshi thinks maf know he's town.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
May 24 2019 20:47 GMT
#3710
He's even looking for it he said so
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 24 2019 20:48 GMT
#3711
On May 25 2019 05:47 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2019 05:43 Holyflare wrote:
On May 25 2019 05:42 VisceraEyes wrote:
On May 25 2019 05:41 Holyflare wrote:
Do we buy that I made rayn demotivated d1 when his jock read got proven correct and he's suffering ever since?

He correctly hard reads Koshi town for nothing. Risky if mafia



He did before the nk too didn't he? Don't see how it would change. Probably more risky to say he doesn't town read koshi if he's mafia.

Lol why? That reads as clueless townie if he calls Koshi mad there. Koshi thinks maf know he's town.


More because of history and even more so because it doesn't make the slightest bit of sense to go from koshi is town to koshi is mafia after the nk because that's instant red flag regardless of if koshi was vet or not. If I'm mafia I'm placating and town reading as many people that know me as I can until I need to not town read them anymore.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
May 24 2019 20:48 GMT
#3712
On May 25 2019 04:53 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2019 04:51 wherebugsgo wrote:
Like also why would Koshi not auto claim on the flip so we have a confirmed townie???

He’s a veteran for fucks sake, why would he only claim AFTER I call his entire team out?

Like that makes no sense. He even kept going on and on about wanting to kill iGrok too, and I have no clue why him claiming vet here has any bearing on iGrok’s alignment.

I didnt because I wanted to see if mafia did weird things I could pick on. Like call me town or something.

But I didnt sense anything. Lol.

if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
May 24 2019 20:49 GMT
#3713
(which is weird iGrok has had unexplained townread of him all day)
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
May 24 2019 20:50 GMT
#3714
[image loading]
On May 25 2019 04:18 Holyflare wrote:
I have to say Conversion's re-entry today was really bad for several reasons:

He didn't actually remember what his read on iGrok was:

Show nested quote +
On May 25 2019 00:28 Conversion wrote:
On May 24 2019 04:32 Holyflare wrote:
On May 24 2019 04:01 Conversion wrote:
jokes aside, I'm in a pretty good mood. I'm flying to California soon, maybe I'll check in in a bit to read the thread some more.

here's my state of the game:

list of reads so far:

(the tiers are orders, the people in tiers are not)

REREAD WHEN I HAVE TIME (these 2 were scum before, what do I think about them now?):
koshi
disformation

town, never lynch:
bugs (pls come back bugs when it is morning in JAPAN)

probably town, look at others below before lynching:
calix
VE
BC
jock
rayn

null to scummish depending on how well I slept that night:
holyflare
igrok

probably scum:
artanis


I'm sorry you feel this way and honestly, I'm not surprised. I've played a really mediocre game so far. This doesn't discourage me though, you're a good player and it's only natural for human error to make you waiver on your judgement and be wrong sometimes. I'll endeavour to put you back on the correct course!

Can you answer me one thing though! How come I am next to iGrok on a list?


pre reading HF's dissertation on why iGrok is mafia:

you're next to iGrok on a list because historically I read you as mafia when you are town, and town when you are mafia (although iirc you've been mafia once in CCCP when you/koshi/+1 just completely bulldozed town with some fuckery that I still don't understand)

iGrok I felt was town b/c the EoD thing he did was sooo weird. like who does that as scum? I haven't read into him much besides that

anyways I know you're into this iGrok lynch-- who else? is Artanis still on board with you?


but his read just a few posts before was:

Show nested quote +
null to scummish depending on how well I slept that night:
holyflare
igrok


I called him out and it was:

Show nested quote +
On May 25 2019 00:37 Conversion wrote:
On May 25 2019 00:32 Holyflare wrote:
On May 25 2019 00:28 Conversion wrote:
On May 24 2019 04:32 Holyflare wrote:
On May 24 2019 04:01 Conversion wrote:
jokes aside, I'm in a pretty good mood. I'm flying to California soon, maybe I'll check in in a bit to read the thread some more.

here's my state of the game:

list of reads so far:

(the tiers are orders, the people in tiers are not)

REREAD WHEN I HAVE TIME (these 2 were scum before, what do I think about them now?):
koshi
disformation

town, never lynch:
bugs (pls come back bugs when it is morning in JAPAN)

probably town, look at others below before lynching:
calix
VE
BC
jock
rayn

null to scummish depending on how well I slept that night:
holyflare
igrok

probably scum:
artanis


I'm sorry you feel this way and honestly, I'm not surprised. I've played a really mediocre game so far. This doesn't discourage me though, you're a good player and it's only natural for human error to make you waiver on your judgement and be wrong sometimes. I'll endeavour to put you back on the correct course!

Can you answer me one thing though! How come I am next to iGrok on a list?


pre reading HF's dissertation on why iGrok is mafia:

you're next to iGrok on a list because historically I read you as mafia when you are town, and town when you are mafia (although iirc you've been mafia once in CCCP when you/koshi/+1 just completely bulldozed town with some fuckery that I still don't understand)

iGrok I felt was town b/c the EoD thing he did was sooo weird. like who does that as scum? I haven't read into him much besides that

anyways I know you're into this iGrok lynch-- who else? is Artanis still on board with you?


On May 24 2019 04:01 Conversion wrote:
jokes aside, I'm in a pretty good mood. I'm flying to California soon, maybe I'll check in in a bit to read the thread some more.

here's my state of the game:

list of reads so far:

(the tiers are orders, the people in tiers are not)

REREAD WHEN I HAVE TIME (these 2 were scum before, what do I think about them now?):
koshi
disformation

town, never lynch:
bugs (pls come back bugs when it is morning in JAPAN)

probably town, look at others below before lynching:
calix
VE
BC
jock
rayn

null to scummish depending on how well I slept that night:
holyflare
igrok

probably scum:
artanis


but you put him as null to scummish???



considering I have one probably scum, two people I want to actively re-evaluate, and basically the rest of the game town, I could see him being scum by purely PoE.

if you're asking why it's weird that I'd have you both in the scummish pile, the moment I'd read either one of you as town/mafia, I'd re-evaluate. I don't see a world where busy mafia!Holyflare screams about mafia!iGrok all day (and now more compounded by your behemoth of a post on why he's scum).

I guess if I really wanted to tinfoil I could see a mafia!iGrok trying to weakly push a mafia!HF while it's "safe" to do so, but the EoD still doesn't make sense. no need to draw random bad attention to yourself like that. just AFK.


It's really weird because his original post had this:


Show nested quote +
iGrok I felt was town b/c the EoD thing he did was sooo weird. like who does that as scum? I haven't read into him much besides that


So it was like he was just getting ready to jump on the bandwagon? Coupled with his posts after researching iGrok it's:

Show nested quote +
On May 25 2019 00:50 Conversion wrote:
hmm damn I really hate iGrok's OMGUS case against HF. If he believed in it so hard, why was he floating by the thread reminiscing about the Good Ol' Days.. instead of pushing his actual scumread or at least doing something around then. If HF didn't write that dissertation, would he have even popped up to do anything?

woof

Show nested quote +
On May 25 2019 00:53 Conversion wrote:
oooh I think I'm seeing the light HF (not gonna lie I didn't really read your big wall of texterino)

On May 22 2019 08:22 iGrok wrote:
I've only got three points on rux. 1 null, 1 town, 1 scum (#1347). Initially thought rux was scummy but others have been more active, generating more scum points.

If it comes down to myself, bc, or rux, I will obviously vote rux.

Still don't know wtf to think about HF/Calix. there's something I'm just not seeing.
Calix did soft defend rux once but thats not a major point either...


On May 22 2019 06:30 iGrok wrote:
Oh right,
##Vote: Calix


On May 22 2019 06:41 iGrok wrote:
Because I don't think I can get HF lynched.



but he still votes HF at the end!


It turns out he doesn't even know really why iGrok voted where he did or what was going on? I find that hard to believe since he interacted with iGrok for like the entire hour before deadline? Conversion wasn't interested where people were voted? He even got iGrok's vote wrong!


On May 22 2019 10:05 iGrok wrote:
##Vote: Holyflare


[image loading]


Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 24 2019 20:50 GMT
#3715
On May 25 2019 05:49 VisceraEyes wrote:
(which is weird iGrok has had unexplained townread of him all day)

I believe iGrok his read to be pure.
I had a good night of sleep.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
May 24 2019 20:50 GMT
#3716
He does this when iGrok up for lynch too...

What if Koshi iGrok and we still have like jailer on rayn or me or something?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
May 24 2019 20:52 GMT
#3717
I am at a spa and relaxing.

@Bugs you need to believe this Koshi vet claim. also he plays very similarly to when he was vet in my game. just says F U to town and sticks to his reads. very gungho

just read this: https://tl.net/forum/mafia/529240-a-simple-game-of-mafia?user=Koshi&page=17
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
May 24 2019 20:53 GMT
#3718
On May 25 2019 05:52 Conversion wrote:
I am at a spa and relaxing.

@Bugs you need to believe this Koshi vet claim. also he plays very similarly to when he was vet in my game. just says F U to town and sticks to his reads. very gungho

just read this: https://tl.net/forum/mafia/529240-a-simple-game-of-mafia?user=Koshi&page=17

But that's not what he's doing

He claimed and instantly was like "Well maybe I lynch not HF, maybe I lynch Bugs"

He didn't stick to his reads at all! He INSTANTLY started shuffling around!
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 24 2019 20:53 GMT
#3719
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 25 2019 05:50 Conversion wrote:
[image loading]
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2019 04:18 Holyflare wrote:
I have to say Conversion's re-entry today was really bad for several reasons:

He didn't actually remember what his read on iGrok was:

On May 25 2019 00:28 Conversion wrote:
On May 24 2019 04:32 Holyflare wrote:
On May 24 2019 04:01 Conversion wrote:
jokes aside, I'm in a pretty good mood. I'm flying to California soon, maybe I'll check in in a bit to read the thread some more.

here's my state of the game:

list of reads so far:

(the tiers are orders, the people in tiers are not)

REREAD WHEN I HAVE TIME (these 2 were scum before, what do I think about them now?):
koshi
disformation

town, never lynch:
bugs (pls come back bugs when it is morning in JAPAN)

probably town, look at others below before lynching:
calix
VE
BC
jock
rayn

null to scummish depending on how well I slept that night:
holyflare
igrok

probably scum:
artanis


I'm sorry you feel this way and honestly, I'm not surprised. I've played a really mediocre game so far. This doesn't discourage me though, you're a good player and it's only natural for human error to make you waiver on your judgement and be wrong sometimes. I'll endeavour to put you back on the correct course!

Can you answer me one thing though! How come I am next to iGrok on a list?


pre reading HF's dissertation on why iGrok is mafia:

you're next to iGrok on a list because historically I read you as mafia when you are town, and town when you are mafia (although iirc you've been mafia once in CCCP when you/koshi/+1 just completely bulldozed town with some fuckery that I still don't understand)

iGrok I felt was town b/c the EoD thing he did was sooo weird. like who does that as scum? I haven't read into him much besides that

anyways I know you're into this iGrok lynch-- who else? is Artanis still on board with you?


but his read just a few posts before was:

null to scummish depending on how well I slept that night:
holyflare
igrok


I called him out and it was:

On May 25 2019 00:37 Conversion wrote:
On May 25 2019 00:32 Holyflare wrote:
On May 25 2019 00:28 Conversion wrote:
On May 24 2019 04:32 Holyflare wrote:
On May 24 2019 04:01 Conversion wrote:
jokes aside, I'm in a pretty good mood. I'm flying to California soon, maybe I'll check in in a bit to read the thread some more.

here's my state of the game:

list of reads so far:

(the tiers are orders, the people in tiers are not)

REREAD WHEN I HAVE TIME (these 2 were scum before, what do I think about them now?):
koshi
disformation

town, never lynch:
bugs (pls come back bugs when it is morning in JAPAN)

probably town, look at others below before lynching:
calix
VE
BC
jock
rayn

null to scummish depending on how well I slept that night:
holyflare
igrok

probably scum:
artanis


I'm sorry you feel this way and honestly, I'm not surprised. I've played a really mediocre game so far. This doesn't discourage me though, you're a good player and it's only natural for human error to make you waiver on your judgement and be wrong sometimes. I'll endeavour to put you back on the correct course!

Can you answer me one thing though! How come I am next to iGrok on a list?


pre reading HF's dissertation on why iGrok is mafia:

you're next to iGrok on a list because historically I read you as mafia when you are town, and town when you are mafia (although iirc you've been mafia once in CCCP when you/koshi/+1 just completely bulldozed town with some fuckery that I still don't understand)

iGrok I felt was town b/c the EoD thing he did was sooo weird. like who does that as scum? I haven't read into him much besides that

anyways I know you're into this iGrok lynch-- who else? is Artanis still on board with you?


On May 24 2019 04:01 Conversion wrote:
jokes aside, I'm in a pretty good mood. I'm flying to California soon, maybe I'll check in in a bit to read the thread some more.

here's my state of the game:

list of reads so far:

(the tiers are orders, the people in tiers are not)

REREAD WHEN I HAVE TIME (these 2 were scum before, what do I think about them now?):
koshi
disformation

town, never lynch:
bugs (pls come back bugs when it is morning in JAPAN)

probably town, look at others below before lynching:
calix
VE
BC
jock
rayn

null to scummish depending on how well I slept that night:
holyflare
igrok

probably scum:
artanis


but you put him as null to scummish???



considering I have one probably scum, two people I want to actively re-evaluate, and basically the rest of the game town, I could see him being scum by purely PoE.

if you're asking why it's weird that I'd have you both in the scummish pile, the moment I'd read either one of you as town/mafia, I'd re-evaluate. I don't see a world where busy mafia!Holyflare screams about mafia!iGrok all day (and now more compounded by your behemoth of a post on why he's scum).

I guess if I really wanted to tinfoil I could see a mafia!iGrok trying to weakly push a mafia!HF while it's "safe" to do so, but the EoD still doesn't make sense. no need to draw random bad attention to yourself like that. just AFK.


It's really weird because his original post had this:


iGrok I felt was town b/c the EoD thing he did was sooo weird. like who does that as scum? I haven't read into him much besides that


So it was like he was just getting ready to jump on the bandwagon? Coupled with his posts after researching iGrok it's:

On May 25 2019 00:50 Conversion wrote:
hmm damn I really hate iGrok's OMGUS case against HF. If he believed in it so hard, why was he floating by the thread reminiscing about the Good Ol' Days.. instead of pushing his actual scumread or at least doing something around then. If HF didn't write that dissertation, would he have even popped up to do anything?

woof

On May 25 2019 00:53 Conversion wrote:
oooh I think I'm seeing the light HF (not gonna lie I didn't really read your big wall of texterino)

On May 22 2019 08:22 iGrok wrote:
I've only got three points on rux. 1 null, 1 town, 1 scum (#1347). Initially thought rux was scummy but others have been more active, generating more scum points.

If it comes down to myself, bc, or rux, I will obviously vote rux.

Still don't know wtf to think about HF/Calix. there's something I'm just not seeing.
Calix did soft defend rux once but thats not a major point either...


On May 22 2019 06:30 iGrok wrote:
Oh right,
##Vote: Calix


On May 22 2019 06:41 iGrok wrote:
Because I don't think I can get HF lynched.



but he still votes HF at the end!


It turns out he doesn't even know really why iGrok voted where he did or what was going on? I find that hard to believe since he interacted with iGrok for like the entire hour before deadline? Conversion wasn't interested where people were voted? He even got iGrok's vote wrong!


Show nested quote +
On May 22 2019 10:05 iGrok wrote:
##Vote: Holyflare


[image loading]





What that's meant to say is "he even got iGrok's voting situation wrong" because it was obvious he didn't scum read ruxxar anymore.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 24 2019 20:54 GMT
#3720
On May 25 2019 05:53 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2019 05:52 Conversion wrote:
I am at a spa and relaxing.

@Bugs you need to believe this Koshi vet claim. also he plays very similarly to when he was vet in my game. just says F U to town and sticks to his reads. very gungho

just read this: https://tl.net/forum/mafia/529240-a-simple-game-of-mafia?user=Koshi&page=17

But that's not what he's doing

He claimed and instantly was like "Well maybe I lynch not HF, maybe I lynch Bugs"

He didn't stick to his reads at all! He INSTANTLY started shuffling around!


wait are you throwing shade on koshi now too?
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