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wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 24 2019 20:06 GMT
#3661
I have no intention of defending myself here.

Even if I get lynched people will probably still keep calling my play crazy after I flip but they will know I’m town and I’m not actually crazy.

OTOH defending myself serves no purpose except to give my scumreads a platform to continue shitting on the thread. I actually really regret coming back to participate and provide reads because I pretty much knew what would happen when I did. I tipped off mafia too much and no one was listening to me at all.

gl hf
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
May 24 2019 20:07 GMT
#3662
I don't actually want to vote bugs but since we were talking about this game earlier:
On September 08 2011 12:07 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2011 12:02 chaos13 wrote:
This game needs some discussion.

This game needs some:
[image loading]

MOTM | Stim.tv | TL Mafia | Fantasy Fighting! | SNSD
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 24 2019 20:08 GMT
#3663
On May 25 2019 05:06 wherebugsgo wrote:
I have no intention of defending myself here.

Even if I get lynched people will probably still keep calling my play crazy after I flip but they will know I’m town and I’m not actually crazy.

OTOH defending myself serves no purpose except to give my scumreads a platform to continue shitting on the thread. I actually really regret coming back to participate and provide reads because I pretty much knew what would happen when I did. I tipped off mafia too much and no one was listening to me at all.

gl hf

I am not mafia, friend. I really am Veteran. I do not believe rayn and VE are mafia. If they are I am sorry.

You probably ditched me with them due to my behavior.

I just dont see it.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 24 2019 20:09 GMT
#3664
I want to vote Artanis or Calix.

Calix made a post "this changes everything" and she didnt update her reads at all. What?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 24 2019 20:09 GMT
#3665
W.e i am gone for a while.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 24 2019 20:10 GMT
#3666
I also kinda claimed for bugs. Lol. Really think he is town witha bad tunnel but somehow he sensed I did it partly for him and he is now more tunnneled? Lol
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 24 2019 20:11 GMT
#3667
Kinda = partly
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 24 2019 20:11 GMT
#3668
Artanis/Calix/+1
I had a good night of sleep.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
May 24 2019 20:11 GMT
#3669
On May 25 2019 05:09 Koshi wrote:
I want to vote Artanis or Calix.

Calix made a post "this changes everything" and she didnt update her reads at all. What?


It means I'm probably wrong on one of my town reads. But I have no idea where I've gone wrong.

I'm also not feeling motivated to post given that you are currently trying to lynch a very obvious town. And if that doesn't happen, you will probably use your Veteran cred to mislynch me. It's just crazy to me.

Don't really get why iGrok is being defended so hard or why HF has suddenly switched off him. But whatever.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 24 2019 20:12 GMT
#3670
Calix would alsp shoot me maybe. But she didnt back down on me. But if she believes a jailor could be in play there was no reason to. Might even draw out jailor.
I had a good night of sleep.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 24 2019 20:13 GMT
#3671
Koshi you're absolutely no fun.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 24 2019 20:13 GMT
#3672
On May 25 2019 05:11 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2019 05:09 Koshi wrote:
I want to vote Artanis or Calix.

Calix made a post "this changes everything" and she didnt update her reads at all. What?


It means I'm probably wrong on one of my town reads. But I have no idea where I've gone wrong.

I'm also not feeling motivated to post given that you are currently trying to lynch a very obvious town. And if that doesn't happen, you will probably use your Veteran cred to mislynch me. It's just crazy to me.

Don't really get why iGrok is being defended so hard or why HF has suddenly switched off him. But whatever.

Town should decide. All for themselves.

I dont know about iGrok.

I townread him for the reasons he trs me. Same reads.
And the people lynching ruxxar lynching him. Lol
I had a good night of sleep.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 24 2019 20:14 GMT
#3673
Everyone is so depressing :D
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 24 2019 20:14 GMT
#3674
On May 25 2019 05:13 Holyflare wrote:
Koshi you're absolutely no fun.

Dude. The guy is going mental...
And I feel guilty for flaming him and making him sad.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 24 2019 20:15 GMT
#3675
On May 25 2019 05:14 Holyflare wrote:
Everyone is so depressing :D

This thread is too big and confusing.

So many trees, no forest.
I had a good night of sleep.
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9875 Posts
May 24 2019 20:15 GMT
#3676
On May 25 2019 05:14 Holyflare wrote:
Everyone is so depressing :D


Probably all depressed from looking at Koshi's filter after he claimed.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 24 2019 20:15 GMT
#3677
Oh was he? Well sorry if that was the case, didn't mean for it to go that far.

Can you look at my conversion post at least? If you think igrok is town then he did the most opportune hop on I saw.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 24 2019 20:16 GMT
#3678
If it wasn't clear I didn't actually like bug's reactions to koshi claiming and they DO look like mafia reactions but I'm not going to vote him today because he is actually putting in effort and trying to solve the game.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 24 2019 20:19 GMT
#3679
On May 25 2019 05:15 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2019 05:14 Holyflare wrote:
Everyone is so depressing :D


Probably all depressed from looking at Koshi's filter after he claimed.

mh I am in super good mood.
because i DONT have to look at that filter anymore =D
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 24 2019 20:20 GMT
#3680
On May 25 2019 04:18 Holyflare wrote:
I have to say Conversion's re-entry today was really bad for several reasons:

He didn't actually remember what his read on iGrok was:

Show nested quote +
On May 25 2019 00:28 Conversion wrote:
On May 24 2019 04:32 Holyflare wrote:
On May 24 2019 04:01 Conversion wrote:
jokes aside, I'm in a pretty good mood. I'm flying to California soon, maybe I'll check in in a bit to read the thread some more.

here's my state of the game:

list of reads so far:

(the tiers are orders, the people in tiers are not)

REREAD WHEN I HAVE TIME (these 2 were scum before, what do I think about them now?):
koshi
disformation

town, never lynch:
bugs (pls come back bugs when it is morning in JAPAN)

probably town, look at others below before lynching:
calix
VE
BC
jock
rayn

null to scummish depending on how well I slept that night:
holyflare
igrok

probably scum:
artanis


I'm sorry you feel this way and honestly, I'm not surprised. I've played a really mediocre game so far. This doesn't discourage me though, you're a good player and it's only natural for human error to make you waiver on your judgement and be wrong sometimes. I'll endeavour to put you back on the correct course!

Can you answer me one thing though! How come I am next to iGrok on a list?


pre reading HF's dissertation on why iGrok is mafia:

you're next to iGrok on a list because historically I read you as mafia when you are town, and town when you are mafia (although iirc you've been mafia once in CCCP when you/koshi/+1 just completely bulldozed town with some fuckery that I still don't understand)

iGrok I felt was town b/c the EoD thing he did was sooo weird. like who does that as scum? I haven't read into him much besides that

anyways I know you're into this iGrok lynch-- who else? is Artanis still on board with you?


but his read just a few posts before was:

Show nested quote +
null to scummish depending on how well I slept that night:
holyflare
igrok


I called him out and it was:

Show nested quote +
On May 25 2019 00:37 Conversion wrote:
On May 25 2019 00:32 Holyflare wrote:
On May 25 2019 00:28 Conversion wrote:
On May 24 2019 04:32 Holyflare wrote:
On May 24 2019 04:01 Conversion wrote:
jokes aside, I'm in a pretty good mood. I'm flying to California soon, maybe I'll check in in a bit to read the thread some more.

here's my state of the game:

list of reads so far:

(the tiers are orders, the people in tiers are not)

REREAD WHEN I HAVE TIME (these 2 were scum before, what do I think about them now?):
koshi
disformation

town, never lynch:
bugs (pls come back bugs when it is morning in JAPAN)

probably town, look at others below before lynching:
calix
VE
BC
jock
rayn

null to scummish depending on how well I slept that night:
holyflare
igrok

probably scum:
artanis


I'm sorry you feel this way and honestly, I'm not surprised. I've played a really mediocre game so far. This doesn't discourage me though, you're a good player and it's only natural for human error to make you waiver on your judgement and be wrong sometimes. I'll endeavour to put you back on the correct course!

Can you answer me one thing though! How come I am next to iGrok on a list?


pre reading HF's dissertation on why iGrok is mafia:

you're next to iGrok on a list because historically I read you as mafia when you are town, and town when you are mafia (although iirc you've been mafia once in CCCP when you/koshi/+1 just completely bulldozed town with some fuckery that I still don't understand)

iGrok I felt was town b/c the EoD thing he did was sooo weird. like who does that as scum? I haven't read into him much besides that

anyways I know you're into this iGrok lynch-- who else? is Artanis still on board with you?


On May 24 2019 04:01 Conversion wrote:
jokes aside, I'm in a pretty good mood. I'm flying to California soon, maybe I'll check in in a bit to read the thread some more.

here's my state of the game:

list of reads so far:

(the tiers are orders, the people in tiers are not)

REREAD WHEN I HAVE TIME (these 2 were scum before, what do I think about them now?):
koshi
disformation

town, never lynch:
bugs (pls come back bugs when it is morning in JAPAN)

probably town, look at others below before lynching:
calix
VE
BC
jock
rayn

null to scummish depending on how well I slept that night:
holyflare
igrok

probably scum:
artanis


but you put him as null to scummish???



considering I have one probably scum, two people I want to actively re-evaluate, and basically the rest of the game town, I could see him being scum by purely PoE.

if you're asking why it's weird that I'd have you both in the scummish pile, the moment I'd read either one of you as town/mafia, I'd re-evaluate. I don't see a world where busy mafia!Holyflare screams about mafia!iGrok all day (and now more compounded by your behemoth of a post on why he's scum).

I guess if I really wanted to tinfoil I could see a mafia!iGrok trying to weakly push a mafia!HF while it's "safe" to do so, but the EoD still doesn't make sense. no need to draw random bad attention to yourself like that. just AFK.


It's really weird because his original post had this:


Show nested quote +
iGrok I felt was town b/c the EoD thing he did was sooo weird. like who does that as scum? I haven't read into him much besides that


So it was like he was just getting ready to jump on the bandwagon? Coupled with his posts after researching iGrok it's:

Show nested quote +
On May 25 2019 00:50 Conversion wrote:
hmm damn I really hate iGrok's OMGUS case against HF. If he believed in it so hard, why was he floating by the thread reminiscing about the Good Ol' Days.. instead of pushing his actual scumread or at least doing something around then. If HF didn't write that dissertation, would he have even popped up to do anything?

woof

Show nested quote +
On May 25 2019 00:53 Conversion wrote:
oooh I think I'm seeing the light HF (not gonna lie I didn't really read your big wall of texterino)

On May 22 2019 08:22 iGrok wrote:
I've only got three points on rux. 1 null, 1 town, 1 scum (#1347). Initially thought rux was scummy but others have been more active, generating more scum points.

If it comes down to myself, bc, or rux, I will obviously vote rux.

Still don't know wtf to think about HF/Calix. there's something I'm just not seeing.
Calix did soft defend rux once but thats not a major point either...


On May 22 2019 06:30 iGrok wrote:
Oh right,
##Vote: Calix


On May 22 2019 06:41 iGrok wrote:
Because I don't think I can get HF lynched.



but he still votes HF at the end!


It turns out he doesn't even know really why iGrok voted where he did or what was going on? I find that hard to believe since he interacted with iGrok for like the entire hour before deadline? Conversion wasn't interested where people were voted? He even got iGrok's vote wrong!


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