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Dude it was a fucking joke lol, it was obviously a rayn fake claim? | ||
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On May 05 2019 02:58 Holyflare wrote: Dude it was a fucking joke lol, it was obviously a rayn fake claim? Not only that but on the off chance they were fucking morons and believed it then they might just have shot me and that would have been great. | ||
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On May 05 2019 03:01 Grackaroni wrote: Is Koshi going to show up today? Let's assume pandain is town. Really really have to stretch our imaginations but let's just pretend. Now let's also do something crazy and pretend bugs is the opposite alignment to what he is. What has koshi achieved other than complete apathy and small posts and almost 0 activity after vivax was modkilled? | ||
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On May 05 2019 03:06 Grackaroni wrote: You think Pandain and WBG are not together though don't you? From the bugs defence yeah. If I'd have to pick one current I'm leaning more towards bugs being mafia really. He feels very much like BC did in that game I lynched Palmar where he tries to twist everything to a narrative about me being mafia and there's no middle ground. He also keeps rehashing the same arguments over and over again. Like the poe thing I really cant wrap my head around how he thinks it's scummy and then it's like every time I just simply tell the truth it's another "aha and this is why you're mafia too!" which seems extremely flawed. I get the vibe he's a brute force kind of mafia player that doesn't quite understand thread sentiment and the nuances of when to back off pushing something to appear genuine. It reads very forced. | ||
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On May 05 2019 03:07 Pandain wrote: If you're town you're completely tunneled on me. Unfortunately if I was around when you first started making arguments you probably would not still be talking about me, but because I was essentially afk for 48 hours means your biases had time to fester and control your perspective and disallow an actual fresh reasoned view. Nothing I did was weird or strange, and what I said regarding my mindset is supported by my posts (apathy on Jock, etc..) Sorry I feel the way I do? That's just mafia. You don't have to keep repeating yourself. I've heard your side and I have my side. It's not going to change my view with you voting me and not discussing other people though. I didn't dislike the bc thing but I need more of it. BC you have one accusation against me that was explained by me being vet (my vote on Pandain) and your quote about me saying the game was easy was from me saying I had a red check. What's your new reason for voting for me and how is what I did in this game different from what you pushed me for when you were mafia and I was town and lynched palmar. | ||
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I know my vote is on you Pandain but I'll unvote you just as a sign of good faith because I really don't think you should be lynched over slam/mz/koshi. | ||
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On May 05 2019 03:18 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Did you not read the thread? I think I was pretty clear when the entire you becoming a lynch was appearing with where I was coming from. Did I outright accuse you? no. Instead I discussed the possibility with the other people in the thread and we came to a consensus. You claiming Vet tbh is more or less a non issue as any claim you make in thread I just dont believe. I can't given your track record. I did read the thread and that is why I'm questioning yoir motives because out of everyone your posts were the most cherry picked out of context ones. You accused me of having a weird vote on Pandain which wasn't weird because I was vet and there is simply no other explanation for that unless I was mafia and simply planning to claim vet all along which is what you must now claim I had to have been doing but haven't actually claimed that. You just haven't really used logic to put that part of the puzzle together. You cherry picked my easy game post which was out of context and to do with my fake cop check. You then said I should be able to show why Pandain is mafia through his own words and not my twisted turn of events but at no point have you EVER highlighted where my accusation of Pandain is incorrect AT ALL. In fact people keep saying my accusation of Pandain was wrong WHEN THE DUDE HIMSELF CAME AND SAID IT WAS RIGHT. How twisted do you have to be to twist that accusation. My case is simply pandain said he thought jock was scummy and never actually voted for him. Which is true. Cold hard facts my friend. If you think otherwise please point me in the direction to where I twisted this into the narrative you claim. Pandain's defence is that it's true he did that but it was day 1 and his scum read wasn't really that secure and he believed his meta on rels was better despite everyone telling him it was wrong. His defence is literally that he didn't believe other people knew rels afkd as town and then he wanted another lynch than Jock. That's fine. He is entitled to that view and I am not saying he can't be town with that view. I am simply saying his hesitance on voting jock is way more likely from mafia pandain than town. Coupled with what I also added, that Pandain was way too eager to claim credit for vivax flipping I think it's a solid case. Why have you never commented on it? I don't even know what you think of Pandain. All I see was a circle jerk of yoj, mafia bugs and VE cherry picking content and then throwing out useless and wrong accusations. | ||
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On May 05 2019 03:20 VisceraEyes wrote: It's almost as if you were describing YOUR play in this game up to this moment. Can you point to one point in this game VE where I have cherry picked something and not critically evaluated it or had reasons for what I've done? One. Just fucking one. Prove this and I will bend over, let you fuck over town and lynch myself. I'll wait. | ||
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On May 05 2019 03:30 VisceraEyes wrote: At this point both of MZ and Pandain would have to switch off HF to sway the lynch imo. I think it's probably safe. I'm still waiting for you. | ||
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On May 05 2019 03:31 VisceraEyes wrote: Nah, because you're going to bend over and let me lynch you anyway. Rather, convince me to lynch someone else, someone like Pandain or MZ. I know you're down to lynch MZ. Fuck off. The whole premise as to why I'm mafia from bugs and bc is that I'm opportunistic and cherry pick and twist narratives. If you can't point to even one part of this game where I have done that then fuck you. | ||
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On May 05 2019 03:33 Holyflare wrote: Fuck off. The whole premise as to why I'm mafia from bugs and bc is that I'm opportunistic and cherry pick and twist narratives. If you can't point to even one part of this game where I have done that then fuck you. You're one of the people that have even perpetuated this and literally just posted about it. | ||
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On May 05 2019 03:34 VisceraEyes wrote: I don't have to, bugs already did, I looked myself and agreed and moved my vote. You can get angry and indignant all you want, but you had an opportunity to say all this before now. Link me to this proof. Right now. | ||
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On May 05 2019 03:36 BloodyC0bbler wrote: So HF, He said he thought Jock was a good lynch, but thought Rels was a better lynch, then chose Vivax for basically the same reason. Fuck, like, He stated his reasons for voting and you are damning him for it. Based on that logic, the fact you fake claimed to kill bugs but are now pushing pandain means we should lynch you because you thought bugs was worth the fake claim. On May 03 2019 04:33 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Mostly caught up at the moment. Pandain/Grack are both shady to me thus far from what i've read. Mainly as both of them have been fairly active overall but the content they have both posted is basically non existent. This is very very similar to how Pandain posted in end of the world mafia. Ie situationally active and talks about things but never seriously pushes them. Trying to hard imo to appear as town while providing no effort. The next big tell for me is he actively agreed with the Jock Lynch but opted to vote for someone who hadn't started posting yet then swapped his vote with 0 stated reasons. Grack literally had a filter of 0 content for how long it is so he is clearly around but not doing anything of value. Although at this point I feel that one of HF/Rayn/Bugs could be mafia. Unsure of who. Bugs as mafia (in the past) when I have played with him has been super aggressive similar to how aggressive I can be and hes not this game. However I disagree with basically all his reads and I think he should be better than that. I personally find reading HF and Rayn insanely hard and until I am 100% sure one of them is mafia I am not prepared for the potential shit storm that creates. Should we fucking lynch you or what? What a hypocritical fuck. This is literally what you YOU have said about Pandain. He was the top of your mafia list. NOW IT'S ME WITH THE TWISTING NARRATIVE LOL. | ||
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Extremely convenient. I can only assume you're mafia. | ||
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On May 02 2019 07:14 Holyflare wrote: This guy is suspect numero uno. Anybody that uses the phrase "that's scummy regardless of Jock's alignment" is a guy that has tmi and makes it want to look like he's weighing up his options. Let us also not forget that he agreed with all the points on Jock, fought against rayn that jock looked scummy, said rayn was scummy for not trying to save his town read and then dropped it all to try and shenanigan with rayn. Let us also not forget that Pandain wanted to lynch rels (based on incorrect meta that was highlighted several times already) despite a wagon building on Jock, his also scum read, to make rels active again. Then when that didn't take off, Pandain, master of misdirection, avoided joining the jock wagon (his scum read) again for terrible shenanigans. Then when Jock, his scum read, flipped town (after pandain said he's probably town for no discernable reason why arguing that he was still mafia) Pandain decides to call the entire wagon on Jock, his scum read, and also maybe town read, mafia. No thanks. You mafia mate. Lynch Pandain when I'm gone. This is my Pandain case which literally only bugs has EVER talked about. It mentions everything you called out Pandain for BC, literally everything. Yet now you use your same post as an accusation for me. No way. What is cherry picked in this case? | ||
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On May 05 2019 03:41 BloodyC0bbler wrote: and then I made this post here HF. I have a 3 page filter. Cherry pick me more? THAT'S NOT WHAT CHERRY PICKING IS LOL. YOU you you, have said that I have CHERRY PICKED my case on pandain. That means I've extrapolated information incorrectly and used it to formulate a push in a bad way. This is extremely false because it's the same thing you posted. Either you have also cherry picked a pandain case or I have not. If you say I have then you also have. Just because things after the fact you say exonerate Pandain doesn't mean that I have to agree or disagree with them. If I disagree with your premise and say that people fake dumb tells like that all the time that is then a divergent path in our reads, not a cherry picked case being pushed. You are the one now saying that our disagreement is in fact cherry picking and a twisted narrative. Where does that twisted narrative ever occur BC? | ||
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