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On May 04 2019 20:42 Pandain wrote: Like what does HF really believe outside of me and bugs? It's not obvious .
Do you want me to pick and choose between mz on almost no posts/koshi on almost no posts and alakaslam the unreadable mess?
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You guys are fucking morons. I'm the veteran, put two and two things together. I thought pandain was mafia and voted him because he alluded to there being 2kp and it being blocked and I was a very likely target to be shot.
I asked artanis to clarify the kp, not bugs, because it didn't say it in the OP and if you actually read the thread I'm the one asking about it.
I fake claimed cop because I was likely one of the only blues in the game and probably could.
Just because I don't give a shit doesn't make me mafia. There's 100s of my town games where I just don't give a shit about the game and conveniently this just happens to be a weekend I'm busy purchasing a house. Why should I talk about anyone else when mz is a lurker in my point of view.
He comes in to make one post or two every 24 hours.
Koshi similarly.
Alakaslam no idea whatsoever.
I think it's pretty opportune to push me over any of these people when anyone knows the only alignment I actually care about winning is as mafia. Town I just want to be correct and do my own thing.
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On May 04 2019 21:55 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2019 21:51 Holyflare wrote:On May 04 2019 20:42 Pandain wrote: Like what does HF really believe outside of me and bugs? It's not obvious . Do you want me to pick and choose between mz on almost no posts/koshi on almost no posts and alakaslam the unreadable mess? I mean, you have to choose someone even according to your own logic because you said myself and Pandain can't be scum together
Thus my vote is only on one of you.
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So what if you did? It's not a scum claim. I literally voted Pandain because I'm the veteran and thought his 2kp thing was a slip so thus I asked the question.
What's my mafia explanation bugs and why are you trying to twist it to something when it's really quite straightforward?
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On May 04 2019 17:48 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2019 12:48 wherebugsgo wrote:Ask yourself why town HF would dodge responding to this post: On May 03 2019 07:32 wherebugsgo wrote:HF I think you played your hand too hard here On May 02 2019 07:31 Holyflare wrote: ... You say no, maybe only vivax.
Pandain comes up with reasons to vote vivax that don't really apply because vivax has proportional activity to normal since this thread isn't very long imo. Maybe he's busy? Who the fuck knows? ...
On May 02 2019 07:41 Holyflare wrote:On May 02 2019 07:34 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay. I will let himself say what he has to say about that. Why is Vivax not mafia? When did I say vivax wasn't mafia? I don't think he's done anything good or awful. Similarly to you. On May 02 2019 18:35 Holyflare wrote:On May 02 2019 18:32 wherebugsgo wrote: HF do you think any of MZ, Vivax, or BC are scum? What a pointless trivial question which I've addressed already. Mz has posted shit all, could be anything. Vivax has done nothing to sway me one way or the other and didn't post anything I hated yet. BC has only made posts I've agreed with. Rayn I can't believe you fell for my posts last night. Reread them as if I'm talking about actual insects :D I will lynch bugs with you. On May 02 2019 18:53 Holyflare wrote: Koshi/bugs/rels/vivax/pandain
Based on bugs defence of pandain tempted to take pandain out but we'll see.
Koshi hit or miss kinda like what he posted but I trained him as mafia well and he's a complete non entity. On May 02 2019 19:56 Holyflare wrote:On May 02 2019 19:37 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 02 2019 18:35 Holyflare wrote:On May 02 2019 18:32 wherebugsgo wrote: HF do you think any of MZ, Vivax, or BC are scum? What a pointless trivial question which I've addressed already. Mz has posted shit all, could be anything. Vivax has done nothing to sway me one way or the other and didn't post anything I hated yet. BC has only made posts I've agreed with. Rayn I can't believe you fell for my posts last night. Reread them as if I'm talking about actual insects :D I will lynch bugs with you. Rayn is this scum HF being fake aggressive or town HF who thinks he's posted something but actually hasn't? I ask him about MZ, Vivax, and BC. 1. Up until this post, MZ is not at all mentioned in HF's filter. Here, HF doesn't take a stance. 2. HF did say the same thing about Vivax earlier, so sure, fine. But again, no stance. 3. "BC only made posts I've agreed with" no direct interaction besides that first weird mistake post HF had, we can come to this conclusion I suppose based on the fact that BC and HF both voted Jock but why should vote alignment matter in reading BC? So why does HF say this is a pointless question when the only thing that HF actually said was #2? 1. What has mz done since that required me to take a stance on him? Like I said, he's done shit all. Also I quite categorically do mention him in my filter. I ask him when he's going to stop fannying around not voting Jock, which now Jock has flipped town makes him look more suspicious. Regardless, I don't have enough information because he just hasn't posted enough. If anyone says they can form an opinion on him they're either lying or wrong.
2. Yup. BC, MZ, HF, at least one of you is town unless this is a bastard 4 scum setup. Come help me figure out the game while I'm still alive. As long as we're lynching me just assume I'm town. You can discard everything I say never, because I won't flip scum. HF if I'm wrong about you and these are not massive scum tells of you defending Vivax for no reason but then putting him as scum for equally no reason, please do explain yourself. Why was Vivax so special, out of the "do nothingers" that he had such a great honour of being in your kill list? If dodging means skipping over it because it should be really obvious then yes. I didn't think what vivax had done was enough to read him anything, as stated in all of those posts. I still don't know why, for the fourth time, you quote my poe post as if it's some revelation. It's poe, process of elimination. The list is simply people I don't town read that I think are most likely to be mafia because it's within their range. That is why vivax is there because his activity is either afk or his staple mafia play. That is why koshi, who I actually town read slightly day 1 is there, because koshi is perfectly capable of appearing town for short spans of time day 1.
Please answer this bugs. Why do you incessantly push my poe list as something scummy? Do you understand what poe is?
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On May 04 2019 22:31 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2019 22:20 Holyflare wrote: So what if you did? It's not a scum claim. I literally voted Pandain because I'm the veteran and thought his 2kp thing was a slip so thus I asked the question.
What's my mafia explanation bugs and why are you trying to twist it to something when it's really quite straightforward? cool story bro, it's literally unbelievable that if you're actually the veteran it took you 30+ minutes to vote him after he talked about there being multiple KP. If you're actually the veteran you'd have just called him scum in the exact same post immediately rather than going to read the OP, asking him if he's dumbtelling, asking him if he's played in a game of this size with more than 1 kp, etc.
Not really unbelievable at all? I checked op after he said it and it said nothing. I asked him to clarify since just voting him would likely reveal my role and then I asked artanis for clarification twice. Once to see if I get notified which was actually in the op that I didn't read and a second to ask about whether mafia would have an extra factional kp would it be in the op since there wasn't an extra role with kp.
All those things take time.
Also just because I haven't read someone doesn't mean they can't be in my poe? They're in my poe exactly because I haven't read them and my gut from interaction wasn't a town read.
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On May 02 2019 18:58 Holyflare wrote: And all those shitty afkers and ff I guess but pointless trying to include those shitters yet.
Interestingly ff left pandain out of his read list.
Literally the next post after my list.
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What has mz done since that required me to take a stance on him? Like I said, he's done shit all. Also I quite categorically do mention him in my filter. I ask him when he's going to stop fannying around not voting Jock, which now Jock has flipped town makes him look more suspicious. Regardless, I don't have enough information because he just hasn't posted enough. If anyone says they can form an opinion on him they're either lying or wrong.
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On May 04 2019 22:44 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2019 22:39 Holyflare wrote:On May 04 2019 22:31 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 04 2019 22:20 Holyflare wrote: So what if you did? It's not a scum claim. I literally voted Pandain because I'm the veteran and thought his 2kp thing was a slip so thus I asked the question.
What's my mafia explanation bugs and why are you trying to twist it to something when it's really quite straightforward? cool story bro, it's literally unbelievable that if you're actually the veteran it took you 30+ minutes to vote him after he talked about there being multiple KP. If you're actually the veteran you'd have just called him scum in the exact same post immediately rather than going to read the OP, asking him if he's dumbtelling, asking him if he's played in a game of this size with more than 1 kp, etc. Not really unbelievable at all? I checked op after he said it and it said nothing. I asked him to clarify since just voting him would likely reveal my role and then I asked artanis for clarification twice. Once to see if I get notified which was actually in the op that I didn't read and a second to ask about whether mafia would have an extra factional kp would it be in the op since there wasn't an extra role with kp. All those things take time. Also just because I haven't read someone doesn't mean they can't be in my poe? They're in my poe exactly because I haven't read them and my gut from interaction wasn't a town read. keep digging yourself deeper, your explanations just keep surfacing more questions and make it clear you're just making this up on the spot. If you asked for clarification and were worried about revealing your role by just voting him why wouldn't you wait until after the question was answered to vote him? Also, if FF and slam were voting your supposed scumread of Pandain, why the fuck would they be completely null to you?
Because artanis answered that I wouldn't be notified and then I voted him and then I asked the kp question as far as I remember. I'll double check in a bit.
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On May 04 2019 23:18 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2019 22:44 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 04 2019 22:39 Holyflare wrote:On May 04 2019 22:31 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 04 2019 22:20 Holyflare wrote: So what if you did? It's not a scum claim. I literally voted Pandain because I'm the veteran and thought his 2kp thing was a slip so thus I asked the question.
What's my mafia explanation bugs and why are you trying to twist it to something when it's really quite straightforward? cool story bro, it's literally unbelievable that if you're actually the veteran it took you 30+ minutes to vote him after he talked about there being multiple KP. If you're actually the veteran you'd have just called him scum in the exact same post immediately rather than going to read the OP, asking him if he's dumbtelling, asking him if he's played in a game of this size with more than 1 kp, etc. Not really unbelievable at all? I checked op after he said it and it said nothing. I asked him to clarify since just voting him would likely reveal my role and then I asked artanis for clarification twice. Once to see if I get notified which was actually in the op that I didn't read and a second to ask about whether mafia would have an extra factional kp would it be in the op since there wasn't an extra role with kp. All those things take time. Also just because I haven't read someone doesn't mean they can't be in my poe? They're in my poe exactly because I haven't read them and my gut from interaction wasn't a town read. keep digging yourself deeper, your explanations just keep surfacing more questions and make it clear you're just making this up on the spot. If you asked for clarification and were worried about revealing your role by just voting him why wouldn't you wait until after the question was answered to vote him? Also, if FF and slam were voting your supposed scumread of Pandain, why the fuck would they be completely null to you? Because artanis answered that I wouldn't be notified and then I voted him and then I asked the kp question as far as I remember. I'll double check in a bit.
19 minute difference.
It's ok if you don't believe it. Literally no skin off my back I'd rather just by a house.
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On May 04 2019 23:23 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm not beyond convincing Holyflare, you just have to convince me that you ACTUALLY BELIEVE that there's only one power-role in this game and that YOU'RE IT, the Town Veteran.
I never said I believe I'm the only power role. I just meant it's more unlikely I'd get someone to counterclaim because I know I'm literally one of them. Rescinded it anyway because I wasn't achieving enough info that I desired particularly.
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I dunno what to tell you VE. I don't care enough at THIS PRECISE MINUTE. I will care later. I hope. I hoped you'd give me the courtesy of living till at least the night cycle so I can talk and investigate and do whatever reperations you want.
If you think this is the play of the best mafia player on the site in his mafia element haphazardly claiming, skimming the thread and commenting or whatever then ok? You'd be incredibly wrong but I'm sure you can search holyflare and apathetic or some variant in that search bar and correlate how many times I've been like and town.
I thought bugs would have done that by now but I guess it doesn't fit his narrative that I'm mafia.
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I mean I'm here and I've given you my thoughts? What more do you want from me?
I think bugs tries to twist everything I say into some mafia narrative repeatedly. He's extremely likely mafia.
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That was a funny joke
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I didn't try and out a cop at any point. Everyone knows I fake claim, fuck, bc looks even worse because I literally shit up a game with a fake claim 2 games ago with him in that he even mentioned at rhe start of this game and here he is saying it's scummy.
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Don't focus on my play otherwise I'd be mafia in 100% of games. Focus on my reads and why I make them and how I push them
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On May 04 2019 23:57 VisceraEyes wrote:But it was a joke that conceded to Pandain that he dunked on your chain of events with facts. You did the same shit earlier when bugs dunked on you about why he asked Jock about Incog's guide or whatever...he had a reason for doing it, a very obvious one that you did NOT catch (maybe because you're mafia?) and when he clued you in you just retreated and joked about it. Your whole game has felt manipulative and, frankly I have to agree with Bugs now, opportunistic. This whole situation right now feels opportunistic, yuo're not interested in talking to me but you'll do quote wars with Bugs, putting in all kinds of effort. It's like you KNOW that thread control has changed hands and you can't be arsed unless it's worth it to you.
No not at all. He didn't present facts, just how he FELT at the time which I genuinely think my version is more apt.
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The sad shit state of this game is that even if someone on my wagon is mafia literally nobody in the rest of the game cares other than ve. How are we supposed to solve 3 non voters who wait over 48 hours to vote repeatedly and don't even post.
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I'd lynch mz don't really care. Maybe even bc he should know better absolutely.
Koshi even maybe.
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