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raynpelikoneet
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Finland43268 Posts
March 25 2019 08:48 GMT
#60
On March 22 2019 05:17 Onegu wrote:
Also where is Rayn?

fiiiine. /in
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
March 30 2019 00:25 GMT
#102
Can you ppl shut the fuck up onto things that is not in or out? Or is this a coffee shop of some sort?
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raynpelikoneet
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Finland43268 Posts
March 30 2019 00:26 GMT
#103
I have been thinking about getting a cat. Is that okay for you people if i got a cat? Pls tell me. <3
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
March 30 2019 00:32 GMT
#106
On March 30 2019 09:30 Koshi wrote:
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On March 30 2019 09:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I have been thinking about getting a cat. Is that okay for you people if i got a cat? Pls tell me. <3

I love my cat. She is great. I would post pictures but then I have to upload them from phone and shit.

But she is super cool and fun and beautiful and nice and lovely and awesome and I love her a lot.

i am sold
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raynpelikoneet
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March 30 2019 00:33 GMT
#108
yes i will
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raynpelikoneet
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March 30 2019 00:36 GMT
#111
I am always aligned with jockmcplop, and VE. Just to know.
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raynpelikoneet
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March 30 2019 00:36 GMT
#112
Because they are the cool guys.
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raynpelikoneet
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March 30 2019 00:42 GMT
#113
Did the witch already tell you if to in or out Koshi?
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raynpelikoneet
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March 30 2019 10:36 GMT
#115
shh dont tell everyone
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raynpelikoneet
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April 04 2019 23:47 GMT
#159
Well its a weekend start so maybe we lynch Palmar again.
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raynpelikoneet
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April 05 2019 22:29 GMT
#193
Hello fellow Romans!!
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raynpelikoneet
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April 05 2019 22:31 GMT
#195
On April 06 2019 07:13 Holyflare wrote:
imagine being in a themed game and not having a proper role

+1

Lets make a roman pact?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 05 2019 22:32 GMT
#198
On April 06 2019 07:23 Alakaslam wrote:
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On April 06 2019 07:10 Eywa- wrote:
Hey guys, my name is Eywa-, three mods is too many, I suggest we lynch one.

U scum?

Is this a real question?
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raynpelikoneet
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Finland43268 Posts
April 05 2019 22:35 GMT
#200
On April 06 2019 07:34 Alakaslam wrote:
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On April 06 2019 07:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 06 2019 07:23 Alakaslam wrote:
On April 06 2019 07:10 Eywa- wrote:
Hey guys, my name is Eywa-, three mods is too many, I suggest we lynch one.

U scum?

Is this a real question?

Actually that was

It is a very good question indeed. i got the exact same feeling.
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raynpelikoneet
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Finland43268 Posts
April 05 2019 23:01 GMT
#227
On April 06 2019 07:57 Fecalfeast wrote:
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On April 06 2019 07:47 LightningStrike wrote:
No need to lynch FF atm.

mafia

I disagree strongly.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 05 2019 23:47 GMT
#281
Well i am a bit sad that hf rolled mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
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April 05 2019 23:54 GMT
#283
On April 06 2019 08:51 Eywa- wrote:
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On April 06 2019 08:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well i am a bit sad that hf rolled mafia.

Yeah, pretty much why I quoted him, he's just open wolf.

Thats not why he is scum though
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raynpelikoneet
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Finland43268 Posts
April 06 2019 00:01 GMT
#291
I dont think i will be explaining much of my reads this game. Well at least no tonight lol.

I just think the level of caring or pretending of caring from holyflare atm makes him mafia. Also ls is town but he needs to die i think or we just dont care about the alternative wincons but i dont think people can agree to that (they can say they do but still dont which os going to be stupid).
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raynpelikoneet
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April 06 2019 00:08 GMT
#296
We are all kinda 3p arent we so cut the crap and wtf?
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raynpelikoneet
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April 06 2019 00:10 GMT
#300
On April 06 2019 09:09 Holyflare wrote:
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On April 06 2019 09:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
We are all kinda 3p arent we so cut the crap and wtf?


not at all I just win with town

I win with other things too.
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raynpelikoneet
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Finland43268 Posts
April 06 2019 00:10 GMT
#301
Which is why i dont believe you.
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raynpelikoneet
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April 06 2019 01:00 GMT
#342
On April 06 2019 09:48 LightningStrike wrote:
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On April 06 2019 09:13 Eywa- wrote:
I feel like Rayn is pretty obvtown right now, but we'll see how that holds. I don't actually know anyone in this game.

Agreed.

Why?
I am obvtown but see abiut that later. Shallow much???
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 06 2019 01:02 GMT
#344
You get mafia points for that mindmeld hf :D
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raynpelikoneet
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April 06 2019 01:54 GMT
#386
On April 06 2019 10:24 Damdred wrote:
Also if we have three factions with part of town having sub win conditions that have to eliminate a third party why for example would Roman's show themselves so early

If you have a wincon having to eliminate a "third party" then you are not town.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 06 2019 01:56 GMT
#388
On April 06 2019 10:53 Holyflare wrote:
Am I the only one that is just fucking town and not a faction?????


I am town but i have some win conditions i have no way of knowing how to achieve them so idc.
I believe i am town because it says so in my role pm.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 06 2019 02:00 GMT
#395
On April 06 2019 10:57 Alakaslam wrote:
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On April 06 2019 10:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 06 2019 10:53 Holyflare wrote:
Am I the only one that is just fucking town and not a faction?????


I am town but i have some win conditions i have no way of knowing how to achieve them so idc.
I believe i am town because it says so in my role pm.

Amen preacher brother I think we share this

which is why i dont believe holyflare :D
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 06 2019 02:02 GMT
#399
On April 06 2019 11:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
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On April 06 2019 11:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 06 2019 10:57 Alakaslam wrote:
On April 06 2019 10:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 06 2019 10:53 Holyflare wrote:
Am I the only one that is just fucking town and not a faction?????


I am town but i have some win conditions i have no way of knowing how to achieve them so idc.
I believe i am town because it says so in my role pm.

Amen preacher brother I think we share this

which is why i dont believe holyflare :D

Are you really not concerned about gaming the mod like that? I can easily see a themed game having vanilla in it, just for names and shit.

sure, that's why i am not yelling to murder him.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 06 2019 02:03 GMT
#400
i actually think we need to kill LS so i can get rid of those goddamn arabs.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 06 2019 02:05 GMT
#404
On April 06 2019 11:03 VisceraEyes wrote:
You are though, you've stated you don't believe holyflare and repeatedly pointed at the fact that you've said that. Lacking much else, that's about equivalent with screaming to murder him I'd say.

fair enough if that is you interpretation of what i have said.
i think he is mafia though, regardless of any role shit.
maybe i will vote for him, maybe i won't.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 06 2019 02:06 GMT
#405
On April 06 2019 11:04 VisceraEyes wrote:
Also I've missed you rayn. You seem sober tonight.

i am more drunk i have been in past 6 months i think
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 06 2019 02:08 GMT
#409
On April 06 2019 11:06 VisceraEyes wrote:
Was the LS thing real or just racist?

idk which thing? the arab one? It was real, not racist. Just game.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 06 2019 02:09 GMT
#412
On April 06 2019 11:06 Jockmcplop wrote:
Oh great I make one sarcastic comment about hf and he gets the nukes out, everyone else is screaming to murder him and they get nothing.
This is bullshit.

why did you gave him the nukes?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 06 2019 02:12 GMT
#414
i didnt realize you are an arab too. i will handle you with my .45
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 06 2019 02:13 GMT
#417
hmm idk, damdred sounds like mafia rn though, idk maybe i have to do a re-check onto ppl tomorrow
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 06 2019 02:16 GMT
#420
On April 06 2019 09:31 Damdred wrote:
For instance rayn needs me to die, I need rayn to die.

i do not need anyone who is town to die to win. if you do you are probably 3rd faction.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 06 2019 02:17 GMT
#421
or mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
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April 06 2019 02:33 GMT
#423
On April 06 2019 11:30 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2019 10:20 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 06 2019 10:06 LightningStrike wrote:
On April 06 2019 10:04 Holyflare wrote:
if this game is just a bunch of towns trying to find other towns to shoot and there's no actual mafia I'm going to be really sad

Could be 1 mafia atm might grow to more like the series itself :o

On April 06 2019 10:15 LightningStrike wrote:
On April 06 2019 10:10 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Genoa is pretty nice to get random land in western Italy when playing Byzantium/Ottomans/Russia in EU4

So are we lynching Palmar or

It's the weekend give him some time.

LS is innocent LS town. 99.9% on this

LS is my lifelong partner.

what does this mean?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 06 2019 02:36 GMT
#425
and?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
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April 06 2019 02:41 GMT
#427
On April 06 2019 11:40 Grackaroni wrote:
What happens in the bedroom stays in the bedroom.

i agree but what does that have to do with a game of mafia?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 06 2019 22:53 GMT
#580
Is it bad i eant to call slam mafia?
I dont think pandain is scum.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 06 2019 23:02 GMT
#583
Too serious
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raynpelikoneet
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Finland43268 Posts
April 06 2019 23:07 GMT
#586
You mean pandain?
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raynpelikoneet
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April 06 2019 23:09 GMT
#588
Tbh no, i wasnt
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raynpelikoneet
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April 06 2019 23:22 GMT
#590
I disagree. This is different
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raynpelikoneet
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April 06 2019 23:27 GMT
#591
On April 07 2019 08:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Tbh no, i wasnt

I mean it was not rhe reason i called him scum for.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
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April 06 2019 23:29 GMT
#592
On April 07 2019 04:32 Pandain wrote:
Completely agree that the way Rayne and TW talked about their role heavily suggests their town. It's really hard to explain and isn't a guarantee, but it gives me a strong gut feeling. I also like how active TW has been.

Because Meapak pointed this out he also gives me town vibes as well.


Idk i think pandain never says this as mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 06 2019 23:32 GMT
#595
On April 07 2019 08:30 Holyflare wrote:
what specifically is so hard for him to write as mafia?

It's literally a +1 to mz

I know i am town and if TW (and mz) is town he has succesfully fucked up three of his possible mislynches for no reason. Its not a slam dunk read but yeah..
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 07 2019 00:03 GMT
#606
On April 07 2019 08:37 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2019 08:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 07 2019 08:30 Holyflare wrote:
what specifically is so hard for him to write as mafia?

It's literally a +1 to mz

I know i am town and if TW (and mz) is town he has succesfully fucked up three of his possible mislynches for no reason. Its not a slam dunk read but yeah..


ok so a useless read because you're talking about mislynches in a game where pandain clearly isn't trying to push any kind of wagon or lead anything and on day 1 in a 21 player game where he can lynch almost absolutely anyone else and not to mention you don't know the alignments of mz or TW. Let's not forget that he could even have insider information as mafia that the factions you guys always talk about may actually contain mafia and then he could be buddying you all for cred

why is your read so superficial and why defend a guy that can clearly speak for himself and play if votes are put down on him?

I might be wrong. I just dont he is mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
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April 07 2019 00:06 GMT
#607
I agree though on MZ. He seemed lost after early game last game, now he like... idk has a plan or whatever
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raynpelikoneet
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April 07 2019 00:09 GMT
#608
Idk what your point is on pandain, hf? Do you want to call me mafia for my read or what??
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raynpelikoneet
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April 07 2019 00:12 GMT
#609
I mean like your post says you disagree with me and it has incentive to call me scum but idk if youre really doing that.
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raynpelikoneet
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April 07 2019 00:14 GMT
#610
If yes why dont say it outright?
If no why not talk to me differently?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
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April 07 2019 00:18 GMT
#613
On April 07 2019 09:15 Holyflare wrote:
I am just tired of people posting shit one liners with no reason that do nothing but dissuade any kind of pressure on a person for absolutely no reason.

You know as well as i do whatever i say about pandain wont make a difference.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 07 2019 00:20 GMT
#615
I do because i am playing this game
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raynpelikoneet
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April 07 2019 00:21 GMT
#616
Anyways idk what your point is
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raynpelikoneet
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April 07 2019 00:27 GMT
#618
Well so far i think he is town.
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raynpelikoneet
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April 07 2019 00:48 GMT
#626
I think i wanna kill MZ
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raynpelikoneet
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April 07 2019 00:49 GMT
#628
I have to taxi home first
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raynpelikoneet
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April 07 2019 01:23 GMT
#651
lets kill mz?
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raynpelikoneet
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April 07 2019 01:26 GMT
#654
why doyou NOTkill mz?
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raynpelikoneet
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April 07 2019 01:29 GMT
#656
On April 07 2019 10:25 Tumblewood wrote:
actually now that i think about it, it is probably mafia vs cultist vs town. the game makes much more sense in that light. though i have no explanation for whatever the hindu/arab talk is all about

this?
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raynpelikoneet
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April 07 2019 01:33 GMT
#658
TW is mafia too
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raynpelikoneet
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April 07 2019 01:43 GMT
#660
Kill mz and tw.
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raynpelikoneet
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April 07 2019 01:46 GMT
#661
one of the m is town though
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raynpelikoneet
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April 07 2019 01:58 GMT
#662
well youre all offline so gn <3
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raynpelikoneet
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April 07 2019 02:11 GMT
#663
wow i am really the only one here.
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raynpelikoneet
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April 07 2019 02:52 GMT
#665
I am not voting for anyone so wtf?
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raynpelikoneet
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April 07 2019 17:09 GMT
#828
So this game is actually really stupid and i am not really interested in trying properly. There is a counterpart in Romans for LS and Damdred apparently is my "counter role". Soo the roman recruiter can recruit me or you can lynch me or whatever i dont really care, if any of us (damdred, LS, whoever has the roles similar) are mafia this game is even more stupid.

I am going to vote for Eywa- because he just added people to his scumlist without apparently having even properly read their posts.
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raynpelikoneet
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Finland43268 Posts
April 07 2019 17:15 GMT
#829
Damdred just worded his posts about his role very poorly.
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raynpelikoneet
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April 07 2019 17:22 GMT
#831
On April 08 2019 02:22 Mig wrote:
That’s your only reason for voting ewya rayne? Do you have anything to say about mz/gracks reasoning against you?

not really, no.
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raynpelikoneet
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April 07 2019 18:33 GMT
#862
I never said that
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raynpelikoneet
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April 07 2019 18:36 GMT
#866
On April 08 2019 03:34 Eywa- wrote:
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On April 06 2019 10:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 06 2019 10:24 Damdred wrote:
Also if we have three factions with part of town having sub win conditions that have to eliminate a third party why for example would Roman's show themselves so early

If you have a wincon having to eliminate a "third party" then you are not town.


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On April 06 2019 10:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 06 2019 10:53 Holyflare wrote:
Am I the only one that is just fucking town and not a faction?????


I am town but i have some win conditions i have no way of knowing how to achieve them so idc.
I believe i am town because it says so in my role pm.



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On April 08 2019 02:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So this game is actually really stupid and i am not really interested in trying properly. There is a counterpart in Romans for LS and Damdred apparently is my "counter role". Soo the roman recruiter can recruit me or you can lynch me or whatever i dont really care, if any of us (damdred, LS, whoever has the roles similar) are mafia this game is even more stupid.

I am going to vote for Eywa- because he just added people to his scumlist without apparently having even properly read their posts.


Can you bold the part where it says "if you have other wincons then you are not town"?
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raynpelikoneet
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April 07 2019 18:40 GMT
#871
The parts you bolded don't say that. Are you just bad at reading?
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April 07 2019 18:42 GMT
#874
I am pretty sure i have claimed my role before you gave. So i just happened to make up your role before you said what it is?
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raynpelikoneet
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April 07 2019 18:45 GMT
#878
I do but i am not trying to fulfill that.
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April 07 2019 18:46 GMT
#880
I never said i dont have that, i said i dont need to kill townies in order to win which is what i thoguht Damdred was originally saying, that he ONLY wins if certain townies aka me die.
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April 07 2019 18:47 GMT
#881
On April 08 2019 03:46 Eywa- wrote:
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On April 08 2019 03:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I do but i am not trying to fulfill that.

So me calling you out was accurate... Why did you argue it?

You called me out on something i NEVER FUCKING SAID. Why are you so terrible at reading?
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April 07 2019 18:48 GMT
#882
On April 08 2019 03:32 Eywa- wrote:
He says that if you have other win cons than you are 3rd party, not town after he already claims that he also has other wincons (and he's like "I'm going to ignore them")

this is just bullshit because i never said this.
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April 07 2019 18:51 GMT
#886
On April 06 2019 09:31 Damdred wrote:
Heres the thing, I know town obviously has sub factions in it that wants the other sub factions to die.

For instance rayn needs me to die, I need rayn to die.

But we both more than likely win with town, personally speaking I value a general win more than a personal win.

LS I do t want to ever die.

I am not sure how i should have understood this because what Damdred says here is he only wins (with town) if rayn is dead. I have had a role like that once, and it was a really fucking bs not-town role while i was "town". I could basically never win and i had never chance to play as town properly.
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April 07 2019 18:52 GMT
#887
I don't need anyone to die in order to win.
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April 07 2019 18:55 GMT
#894
It's not cult, but if he recruits certain people they win and i think leave the game which will reduce town numbers even further which is why i dont really feel like playing because it's a retarded role list, considering there are two of those.
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April 07 2019 18:55 GMT
#895
On April 08 2019 03:53 Holyflare wrote:
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On April 08 2019 03:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 06 2019 09:31 Damdred wrote:
Heres the thing, I know town obviously has sub factions in it that wants the other sub factions to die.

For instance rayn needs me to die, I need rayn to die.

But we both more than likely win with town, personally speaking I value a general win more than a personal win.

LS I do t want to ever die.

I am not sure how i should have understood this because what Damdred says here is he only wins (with town) if rayn is dead. I have had a role like that once, and it was a really fucking bs not-town role while i was "town". I could basically never win and i had never chance to play as town properly.


That's not what the damdred post says. He says he can win with town or win by killing you.

I know but back then i didn't realise it.
Whatever i am not really interested in arguing about this. Do whatever you want, i am going to bed.
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April 07 2019 19:00 GMT
#904
On April 08 2019 03:58 Eywa- wrote:
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On April 08 2019 03:56 Holyflare wrote:
On April 08 2019 03:55 Eywa- wrote:
On April 08 2019 03:53 Holyflare wrote:
On April 08 2019 03:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 06 2019 09:31 Damdred wrote:
Heres the thing, I know town obviously has sub factions in it that wants the other sub factions to die.

For instance rayn needs me to die, I need rayn to die.

But we both more than likely win with town, personally speaking I value a general win more than a personal win.

LS I do t want to ever die.

I am not sure how i should have understood this because what Damdred says here is he only wins (with town) if rayn is dead. I have had a role like that once, and it was a really fucking bs not-town role while i was "town". I could basically never win and i had never chance to play as town properly.


That's not what the damdred post says. He says he can win with town or win by killing you.

Are you picking up what I'm laying down?


No, I think rayn has just misread some posts and you're taking him saying we're all 3P at face value rather than what he likely meant being we're 3P because we have alternate win conditions that may or may not align with town.

This faction bs doesn't mean shit. There is almost assuredly a mix of town and mafia in both factions.

Right, but then why does he argue what I'm saying if it was a mistake on his end initially? Like, my argument is correct... So why not admit that if you're town in his position?

Because yourt argument is not correct. I literally never said "if you have alternative win conditions you are not town" which is what your argument boils down to.
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April 07 2019 19:05 GMT
#909
I dont have to kill arabs. I dont have to kill anyone, even fucking mafia in order to win. How is that so hard to understand?
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April 07 2019 19:07 GMT
#913
On April 08 2019 04:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I dont have to kill arabs. I dont have to kill anyone, even fucking mafia in order to win. How is that so hard to understand?

And i only answered to you about "He says that if you have other win cons than you are 3rd party, not town after he already claims that he also has other wincons (and he's like "I'm going to ignore them")" because that's what you literally said. Now you are saying something else, that is not still correct...
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April 07 2019 19:08 GMT
#915
well i am off now
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April 08 2019 01:22 GMT
#1208
Well mr. Roman assassin i think you should know what to do since the people you need to kill have all claimed.
You can win with killin LS and i am now gonna pretend i have all townies best interest at heart; then we can figure out which of those people are lying since LS claims he needs to recruit 2 people and 3 people are saying they need to get recruited by LS. I obviously win when we kill those people but that's a point that doesn't matter.
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April 08 2019 01:38 GMT
#1210
No just the hindu-arabic council which apparently is LS+Damdred+Grackaroni+Ewya (with one of them lying and probably mafia).
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April 08 2019 01:43 GMT
#1213
On April 08 2019 10:41 LightningStrike wrote:
Like I can only recruit Hindu/Arabic mathematicians into a qt that's it. My role is useless outside of that.

well if that's what you're claiming then i think you are lying but that doesn't really matter because you're dead before D2 anyways.
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April 08 2019 01:45 GMT
#1215
On March 30 2019 09:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am always aligned with jockmcplop, and VE. Just to know.

I am hoping these are the rest of Roman council because it would be super funny.
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April 08 2019 01:52 GMT
#1216
For reals though i think everyone who come out as clueless of what me and Damdred were talking about are probably mafia. That would be Vivax, Mocsta and Kelsier to some extent. Palmar probably just didn't read and if he is mafia him wanting to lynch Damdred doesn't really make any sense because Damdred is anti-town and works for him because LS is stubborn and acts like he does (aka only wants to recruit people he needs to and not even consider their alignments).
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April 08 2019 02:26 GMT
#1220
I just read MZ's role and put 1+1 together. Apparently you can't do that.
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April 08 2019 03:10 GMT
#1222
I dont care what you think or try to sell people. I only carr that roman assassin knows what to do. Kill ls, n2 kill damdred. Then kill the one who is not lying of ewya/grsck. The liar is probably grack because ewya was too specific about his role. Town prolly needs to lynch me on D3 but thats olay because you get +1 night and nowhere it says i need to be alive in order to win with roman council so i am playing for you to win us the game.
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April 08 2019 03:18 GMT
#1223
Oh wait no. lol i am bad. Well just kill ls and i thank you. I will thank you more if you are a boss and shoot damdred or ewya first.
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April 08 2019 03:23 GMT
#1225
On April 08 2019 12:22 LightningStrike wrote:
Rayn suggesting a shot on me is fucking horrible I don't think he's mafia for it sadly. He's just as bad as HF was last game Day 1.

I dont think youre mafia but you are anti-town as fuck.
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April 08 2019 11:52 GMT
#1296
I am like 90% sure Damdred can't be mafia.
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April 08 2019 12:08 GMT
#1307
Look i am going to explain why Damdred is almost never mafia. Damdred has the same role i do 100%, except that he is hindu/arab and i am roman. both hindu/arabs and romans have a recruiter who needs to recruit mathematicians from their "side" in order to fulfill their secondary wincondition (the recruited people win too in case they become council). Hindu/arab recruiter is confirmed LS, and Damdred + Eywa (+Grackaroni) have claimed to be hindu/arab mathematicians.

Now let's assume Damdred is mafia. In case LS gets all the people recruited they win the game. Now they are in a qt (read LS' posts) so if Damdred is mafia, and they know on night X they are gonna get the last person recruited, why doesn't Damdred (or any of them who is or would be mafia) just out his whole scumteam 1 second before the night ends? Sounds like a legit Artanis balanced game??? I say hell no. Saying if someone or a group of people fulfill their wincon they do not leave the game is just even more retarded than thinking the above could be true. Which is why LS is either full of shit or is trying to (do a shitty job of) trying to back off his claim -- probably the latter.

MZ's role and my claim basically confirm this to be true. The thing is though that LS claims he needs to recruit only 2 people so unless LS is lying one of Damdred, Eywa and Grack has to be lying. This doesn't matter rn because Roman assassin (equivalent to MZ) will kill LS tonight and we will see for sure if LS is lying or not. If LS is telling the truth then i'd say Eywa is 100% town, Damdred 90% town and Grack whose claim i find out to be the shadiest 10%.

I agree Sentinel and Vivax are probably mafia. Vivax and Mocsta have been talking about each other (scumreading each other) in a way that seems like a double soft bus rather than them actually thinking the other person is mafia because while both scumread each other they don't actually ever argue about anything with each other (see on the contrary for example me vs ewya yesterday).
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April 08 2019 12:14 GMT
#1308
So here is some food for thought mafia:

Roman assassin will shoot LS because if they do so they win, so why wouldn't they? They are town and you probably know that so that's 1 less townie for you to handle.

I am suggesting you shoot Damdred or (and if you have more than 1 kp) Eywa. Then me and a couple of other people will leave the game too and that's three more people for you to handle. If that doesn't happen, then you just get rid of Grackaroni next night and it's guaranteed Roman "pact" will get out of the game.

If you are not going to do that i suggest you shoot me because i will try my hardest to fucking lynch you unless i see Damdred and Ewya dead starting D2. If you shoot a fellow roman person i will try my hardest to fucking lynch you. So ball's in your court, help me and my friends and help you at the same time or get to deal with more angry townies.
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April 08 2019 12:17 GMT
#1310
Mr Roman recruiter you should recruit me unless you know another Roman mathematician (i am pretty sure i do know one but i'd like to not say who that is).
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April 08 2019 12:20 GMT
#1312
Blame Lightningstrike. Had he not claimed i would have no intention in making a deal with mafia but now i do because regardless of if i doe or not i probably win by doing so.
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April 08 2019 12:21 GMT
#1313
And if mafia takes my deal it also helps them sooo...
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April 08 2019 12:23 GMT
#1314
Holyflare can actually quite easily be mafia too just for even entertaining the idea of me being mafia in this game.
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April 08 2019 12:29 GMT
#1317
On April 08 2019 21:28 Eywa- wrote:
Yeah, Lightningstrike full claiming recruiter is really... Really... Questionable :/ basically means me, grack and damdred probably all just lose.

At least we are confirmed IC

Not all of you since LS claims he needs to recruit 2 people and you are 3.
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April 08 2019 12:31 GMT
#1319
Which i think the game from the beginning is really stupid. It's like LS is a D1 vigilante and he shot himself and two other people.
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April 08 2019 12:32 GMT
#1321
On April 08 2019 21:30 Eywa- wrote:
Also, it's funny that Rayn even argued when I claimed his "idc about my other victory conditions" was disingenuous. Hahaha

But he is also likely town.

I genuinely hadn't read LS' claim or it was not out there at the time. I don't lie, epsecially when i am claiming something, unless i am just fakeclaiming which i was not.
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April 08 2019 12:35 GMT
#1323
On April 08 2019 21:31 Eywa- wrote:
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On April 08 2019 21:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 08 2019 21:28 Eywa- wrote:
Yeah, Lightningstrike full claiming recruiter is really... Really... Questionable :/ basically means me, grack and damdred probably all just lose.

At least we are confirmed IC

Not all of you since LS claims he needs to recruit 2 people and you are 3.

I really wonder if you believe anything you write down.

I don't understand, that's what LS literally said.
On April 07 2019 23:27 LightningStrike wrote:
My alternate win condition was to recruit both Hindu/Arabic mathematicians into a QT with me before End game but I do win with the town.


Both is 2, you + damdred + grackaroni is 3, so if LS is telling the truth one of you is lying, no?
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April 08 2019 12:39 GMT
#1326
On April 08 2019 21:36 Eywa- wrote:
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On April 08 2019 21:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 08 2019 21:31 Eywa- wrote:
On April 08 2019 21:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 08 2019 21:28 Eywa- wrote:
Yeah, Lightningstrike full claiming recruiter is really... Really... Questionable :/ basically means me, grack and damdred probably all just lose.

At least we are confirmed IC

Not all of you since LS claims he needs to recruit 2 people and you are 3.

I really wonder if you believe anything you write down.

I don't understand, that's what LS literally said.
On April 07 2019 23:27 LightningStrike wrote:
My alternate win condition was to recruit both Hindu/Arabic mathematicians into a QT with me before End game but I do win with the town.


Both is 2, you + damdred + grackaroni is 3, so if LS is telling the truth one of you is lying, no?

I mean... It would be pretty shitty for him if he had to pick 2 players and there were only 2 valid targets... It would be so easy for him to have no way of winning.

He wins with town anyways so what's the problem, it's just an alternative wincondition.
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April 08 2019 12:40 GMT
#1327
Just like yours, or do you think it's shitty enough that there would be only 1 recruiter if he like happens to die D1 or something?
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April 08 2019 12:41 GMT
#1329
On April 08 2019 21:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On April 08 2019 21:36 Eywa- wrote:
On April 08 2019 21:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 08 2019 21:31 Eywa- wrote:
On April 08 2019 21:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 08 2019 21:28 Eywa- wrote:
Yeah, Lightningstrike full claiming recruiter is really... Really... Questionable :/ basically means me, grack and damdred probably all just lose.

At least we are confirmed IC

Not all of you since LS claims he needs to recruit 2 people and you are 3.

I really wonder if you believe anything you write down.

I don't understand, that's what LS literally said.
On April 07 2019 23:27 LightningStrike wrote:
My alternate win condition was to recruit both Hindu/Arabic mathematicians into a QT with me before End game but I do win with the town.


Both is 2, you + damdred + grackaroni is 3, so if LS is telling the truth one of you is lying, no?

I mean... It would be pretty shitty for him if he had to pick 2 players and there were only 2 valid targets... It would be so easy for him to have no way of winning.

He wins with town anyways so what's the problem, it's just an alternative wincondition.

Actually you should easily know what ia m saying is true if your role really is what you say it is.
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April 08 2019 12:42 GMT
#1331
lol i am just done talking to you if you are dumb enough to think when new information comes around it's "scummy" to change your mind.
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April 08 2019 12:45 GMT
#1333
Like your thought process right now is equivalent to if i said "i think eywa is scum because first he read me as town and suddenly then he read me as scum" (i could also throw in some text here about something you never said -- which is what you did towards me). So there is that. now kthxbye you can mind your own business.
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April 08 2019 12:47 GMT
#1337
I said idc because i dont know how to achieve them and then i think i learned.
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April 08 2019 12:48 GMT
#1340
On April 08 2019 21:46 Eywa- wrote:
It's like saying I don't care about pie, because I'm not going to eat pie.

Then later say, well I didn't know there would be pie on the table...

More like i dont care about the pie because i dont know where the pie is.
Then learn there is a pie in front of me.
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April 08 2019 12:50 GMT
#1343
On April 08 2019 21:48 Eywa- wrote:
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On April 08 2019 21:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I said idc because i dont know how to achieve them and then i think i learned.

Disingenuous

That's a pretty gross statement in my opinion, you are a good mafia player if you can actually even some time convince some people of that kinda bullshit.
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April 08 2019 12:58 GMT
#1347
Hi VE are you mafia?
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April 08 2019 13:01 GMT
#1352
On April 08 2019 22:00 VisceraEyes wrote:
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On April 08 2019 21:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hi VE are you mafia?

What do you think? I could say no but THAT'S WHAT I'D SAY REGARDLESS EH?!?!

idk the only thing i remember you doing was to agree on MZ and we all know what he flipped so where's your head at?
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April 08 2019 13:02 GMT
#1353
On April 08 2019 22:01 Eywa- wrote:
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On April 08 2019 22:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
I am currently trying to cool a fight between you and another townie, that's pro-town. But make your own decisions mate.

😂 Yeah, VE is town.

that's like the easiest thing to get town cred from as mafia, i learned that in like 2011.
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April 08 2019 13:06 GMT
#1359
Also this wasn't really a fight since we both think we are town, more like a dick measuring contest and you got the shorter one since i THINK i have some powerful friends in mafia who have you know guns, and i got leverage.
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April 08 2019 13:08 GMT
#1364
On April 08 2019 22:02 Eywa- wrote:
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On April 08 2019 22:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 08 2019 22:00 VisceraEyes wrote:
On April 08 2019 21:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hi VE are you mafia?

What do you think? I could say no but THAT'S WHAT I'D SAY REGARDLESS EH?!?!

idk the only thing i remember you doing was to agree on MZ and we all know what he flipped so where's your head at?

If you are the role that you claim to be, aren't you essentially guaranteed to be Finnish with this game?

maybe, i just like to scumhunt.
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April 08 2019 13:09 GMT
#1366
On April 08 2019 22:03 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm happy he was an anti-town townie, so we "dodged a bullet" there. Mafia would have loved seeing MZ alive longer.

I'm still filtering. The role shit becomes important tomorrow, and sides will be picked.

Alright i am going to wait until you finish filtering.
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April 08 2019 13:15 GMT
#1369
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April 08 2019 13:34 GMT
#1376
VE Cake says hi.
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April 08 2019 13:59 GMT
#1388
On April 08 2019 22:53 Vivax wrote:
On a side note HF. I have a hunch that you're going to murder LS tonight and then drop out of the game as a victor?

I thought the same. That doesnt make you less mafia thoguh.
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April 08 2019 14:00 GMT
#1389
On April 08 2019 22:55 Holyflare wrote:
I will never use my power because it removes me and I'm a great asset and could get mafia to waste a shot. Unless we find who I need and they're mafia then I could potentially trade.

well this is just plain out bullshit.
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April 08 2019 14:07 GMT
#1394
So your role is that you get 1-1 but you dont win, you just die?
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April 08 2019 14:10 GMT
#1397
On April 08 2019 23:09 Mocsta wrote:
So eywa claims hindu mathematician nd somehow thought he would be recruited by mafia?

Damdred and rayn supposedly have also claimed math and never mentioned this.

Wtf is this game?


Jock
U r padawan. Its ok. Still town.

this guy is still scum
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April 08 2019 14:12 GMT
#1398
On April 08 2019 23:10 VisceraEyes wrote:
Palmar:

Opens with /decent/ reasoning wrt Damdred’s role speculation, and focuses on it to exclusion. In fairness, Damdred gave him nothing really else to base it upon.

The crux of his argument appears to be that as town Damdred has no reason to discuss his role mechanics, therefor that makes him mafia trying to appear town (presumably with a fake claim? or with his own real mafia role?)

Generally speaking I find his reasoning to be flawed in that he’s saying there is only this one way to behave as a townie, and failing that he’s mafia. This is almost always my exception with Palmar’s early reads - unless there’s meta analysis (which later on there is, we’ll get there) Palmar almost always expects townies to act the way he’d act, and they almost never do. It results in him thinking literally everyone is stupid.

It doesn’t get him ZERO results, but it’s hit or miss and he knows it.

There were a scant 4 posts wrt Damdred’s meta that Palmar attempted to sway the lynch with - I’m not sure of the validity of the meta, but it does come before the lynch and attempt to get people off MZ. I just don’t think he bothers as mafia. He expands on the meta read after the lynch, but it at least aligns with his posted reasoning before the lynch.

I think Palmar probably town. I could be wrong, Palmar probably better than I am, but he seems like he’s putting in a base-level town-Palmar amount of effort.

Damdred worded his posts early so weirdly i can easily think Palmar thinks he is mafia.

Why did you decide to read the people you did?
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April 08 2019 14:44 GMT
#1410
On April 08 2019 23:37 Holyflare wrote:
It's my alternate WIN con. I get a win to find this person and I eliminate both myself and that person. Or I get it wrong and remove myself. I win with town. I'd rather just lynch mafia. I feel like a 3P

And you say you would never ever shoot unless you are sure the opposing guy is mafia? :D
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April 08 2019 14:48 GMT
#1411
On April 08 2019 22:55 Holyflare wrote:
I will never use my power because it removes me and I'm a great asset and could get mafia to waste a shot. Unless we find who I need and they're mafia then I could potentially trade.

I really do not believe you here HF.
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April 08 2019 14:49 GMT
#1412
On April 08 2019 23:37 Eywa- wrote:
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On April 08 2019 23:34 Holyflare wrote:
On April 08 2019 23:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So your role is that you get 1-1 but you dont win, you just die?


Did you pay any attention?

I love this post more than you can possibly know.

Will you be my lover?

@LS I want a divorce.

If you had a role where you knew you need to kill raynpelikoneet and if you manage to do that you win, would you shoot if you knew i was 100% town?
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April 08 2019 14:50 GMT
#1413
Notice that HF also only potentially trades if the opposing guy is mafia..........
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
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April 08 2019 14:58 GMT
#1416
On April 08 2019 23:54 disformation wrote:
i think it was more like "i dont want to use my power but if the other guy is scum i might consider a trade"?

and you dont find it concerning?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
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April 08 2019 15:02 GMT
#1417
Where is Palmar now with his 3p reads?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 08 2019 15:08 GMT
#1420
On April 09 2019 00:05 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2019 23:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 08 2019 22:55 Holyflare wrote:
I will never use my power because it removes me and I'm a great asset and could get mafia to waste a shot. Unless we find who I need and they're mafia then I could potentially trade.

I really do not believe you here HF.


I really do not care? Why would I have to lie about something nobody has called me out on. I willingly provided this information to you and if the other guy is also town it's a waste. If he's selfish he can get me but if he's a town guy we can move on.

If he's mafia I'm probably already dead.

Right i also dont care if you care or not. I just find your statement on how you would or wouldnt fulfill your alt wincon bs.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
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April 08 2019 15:09 GMT
#1422
On April 09 2019 00:07 disformation wrote:
well. i think i believe hf's claim and i can see him being a bit bleh about the being removed part. as either alignment tbh.

so you think he, as town will only possibly shoot mafia in order to win? as you seem to be saying he claims.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
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April 08 2019 15:10 GMT
#1424
On April 09 2019 00:09 Holyflare wrote:
I think it's quite obvious i get removed from the game too if you have read like a single one of my posts. Even when I was talking about your stupid roman arab thing I said i thought they would get removed from the game because that was like my power.

It's really shit. Even if the guy ends up being mafia it's still shit.

my problem is that you claim you only probably shoot a mafia guy in order to win yourself.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 08 2019 15:12 GMT
#1427
I dont think you understand me.
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April 08 2019 15:14 GMT
#1429
On April 09 2019 00:12 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2019 00:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 09 2019 00:09 Holyflare wrote:
I think it's quite obvious i get removed from the game too if you have read like a single one of my posts. Even when I was talking about your stupid roman arab thing I said i thought they would get removed from the game because that was like my power.

It's really shit. Even if the guy ends up being mafia it's still shit.

my problem is that you claim you only probably shoot a mafia guy in order to win yourself.


I said I have no idea what alignment the guy is. I would only potentially use it IF he turned out to be mafia for a free lynch.


Unless we find who I need and they're mafia then I could potentially trade.


maybe i am just bad at english but i think i know what this actually says so either you horribly misworded it or something else....
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
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April 08 2019 15:15 GMT
#1431
I agree we should be lynching people who we think are mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
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April 08 2019 15:20 GMT
#1434
1) i think you would go for a win even if you are town and the other guy is town if you knew what to do, i know i would so i think you are lying here
2) if you knew the other guy is mafia you are saying you could "potentially trade in that scenario" which i find out to be even worse since why would you ever not trade 1-1 as town with mafia?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 08 2019 15:24 GMT
#1437
Should i?
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raynpelikoneet
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April 08 2019 15:25 GMT
#1438
well i am gonna give you a good list then:

Kelsier
Mocsta
Vivax
Sentinel
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 08 2019 15:26 GMT
#1441
But if you are mafia then your list is

Damdred
Eywa
Grackaroni

and you know i am right
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 08 2019 15:27 GMT
#1443
On April 09 2019 00:26 disformation wrote:
though actually dont think anyone wanted to strangle vivax so far, so he can make the list.

mocsta wanted to but not really. you are close to the list too i think
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 08 2019 17:09 GMT
#1464
vivax is mafia
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 09 2019 02:47 GMT
#1522
Whats the point of winning if you dont leave the game?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 09 2019 02:49 GMT
#1523
FF is your role a copy of MZ's except that youre roman?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
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April 09 2019 05:53 GMT
#1536
What is this convert thing?
I am not in qt do someone is being really stupid.
Damdred cant be mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
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April 09 2019 05:54 GMT
#1538
FF did something happen to you?
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raynpelikoneet
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April 09 2019 13:10 GMT
#1640
I'll be around in an hour or so. I am loosely following the thread while eating and watching suits.
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raynpelikoneet
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April 09 2019 13:12 GMT
#1643
But i will do science in the meantime.

##vote Grackaroni
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raynpelikoneet
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April 09 2019 14:20 GMT
#1657
So first of all Damdred has identical role to Eywa and anyone who thinks he is mafia (aka Mocsta) should ask themselves a question "what happens if LS actually got hindu/arab mathematicians recruited and they win?". Apparently people achieving their wincon dont make them leave the game so aside from all bs roles this game is absolutely idiotic if there is a mafia who can just straight out out their team after winning with another wincon, and i for one do not think at least Artanis is involved in idiotic role mechanics that make the game 100% even possibly unplayable from the get go.

Anyone who ever thinks Damdred is mafia needs to explain why the above is false because to me every explanation i can ever think of is absolutely retarded.

Since the winning "parties" don't apparently leave the game i can just 100% focus on scumhunting and sctually never even care about my other winconditions. Since we need reads, Roman recruiter is probably Slam. From all the people of i can think of it's Slam or VE and i don't really think VE would have NOT not recruited me after the posts i made during D1 and N1, because it's just incredibly dumb not to do that. And that makes Slam town because once again see the first paragraph.

I don't really know what Palmar is and i am really looking forward what he has to say now when he can't call Damdred scum, or if he keeps doing that he is probably scum then, because i don't think Palmar is stupid. I honestly have zero clue about Mig. I have zero idea what town mig or mafia mig would do, but purely based on his posting it looks like he is more likely mafia than town. Just because it doesn't really look like he tries to achieve anythign with what he says.

Mocsta looks way better he did D1. I liked that Tubesock pushed his concerns, that's enough for me to think he is town.

I agree with what people say about Sentinel, he's just probably mafia.

Vivax lacks pretty much all town Vivax things in this game. There are no crazy theories and he isn't pushing those crazy --- well -- ANY theories at all and i think that makes him mafia.

Kelsier just complains about how he doesn't understand anything about this role bs. Guess what, you don't need to understand any of it to scumhunt, you just read people's posts and see if they look like mafia posts or town posts. I think he is hiding behind that "wow so weird game" bs because he is mafia and as lot of people have been talking about roles he doesn't have to engage in any conversations. He is a really good player when he is town, now he is just dead weight. So almost definitely mafia.

Grackaroni is also mafia because LS was telling the truth and Damdred is telling the truth and Grackaroni is lying about his role, so there is that. We can't vote for him today so that's all about it.

Tumblewood, Pandain, VE, HF i am undecided on. If any of you is same role as i am please claim. What's the point of keeping it secret anymore?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
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April 09 2019 14:23 GMT
#1658
Actually giving it one minute of thought i dont think Palmar is mafia because the way he went on Damdred on D1 sounded townie to me.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
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April 09 2019 14:28 GMT
#1661
ignore the triple negative on my earlier post and make it double.
VE would have recruited me if he was the roman recruiter so he is not.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
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April 09 2019 14:33 GMT
#1663
I also have no idea what to think of disformation. I might care enough to try to make a read on him but i am secretly hoping someone else says something smart about him, but that's probably a blank round anyways since last time i was mafia with him i tried my hardest to bus him with all the proper reasons and noone ever cared. So maybe he will just die at some point or something lol..
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
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April 09 2019 14:35 GMT
#1665
On April 09 2019 23:34 Mocsta wrote:
U r not the roman mathematician

youre right i just magically made up the exact real roman mathematician role before anyone of the other claimed mathematicians.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 09 2019 14:39 GMT
#1668
wait let me look at something
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raynpelikoneet
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April 09 2019 14:41 GMT
#1669
Yeah yo uare lying.
##vote Mocsta

I got a pm starting D2 stating the person i am looking for is in the voters of Meapak, so you literally need to be lying. There is simply zero reason why i got that message unless it was an implication of who the recruiter is.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
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April 09 2019 14:45 GMT
#1672
i dunno why you traded at best 1-1 but i don't think that was a good idea.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 09 2019 14:46 GMT
#1674
explain then?
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raynpelikoneet
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April 09 2019 14:48 GMT
#1678
maybe you were just roleblocked. i am waiting VE to explain.
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raynpelikoneet
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April 09 2019 14:49 GMT
#1679
On April 09 2019 23:48 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm some sort of helper dude - I'm helping X find Y. I didn't target you though, I targeted Palmar. There's likely another helper dude who targeted you. Alternatively, I'm the only one and Palmar is some sort of hider or something.

how does your role work?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 09 2019 14:49 GMT
#1680
do i get a legit message or some random bullshit?
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raynpelikoneet
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April 09 2019 14:50 GMT
#1682
if i get a legit message how is mocsta not bsing?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
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April 09 2019 14:51 GMT
#1684
##unvote
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raynpelikoneet
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April 09 2019 14:52 GMT
#1687
I know the name you're trying to help. I am not sure if to not out it.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
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April 09 2019 14:54 GMT
#1690
I am not sure how anyone in the game woudl actually think i am something else than a roman mathematician, and give me a message?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
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April 09 2019 14:57 GMT
#1693
idk maybe scum jsut blueread you or something. do you think i basically made up the exact role (you know is legit) before anyone else?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
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April 09 2019 14:58 GMT
#1694
not to even mention i would have started fakeclaiming in my first post of the game.....
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
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April 09 2019 15:03 GMT
#1697
On April 10 2019 00:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2019 23:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
idk maybe scum jsut blueread you or something. do you think i basically made up the exact role (you know is legit) before anyone else?

I mean, don't mafia get fake-claims historically? idk if this is meaningful or not.

so i decided to fakeclaim a role that will kill me D2? :D i can genuinely say i would never ever fakeclaim i need to be recruited if i wasn't needed to. That's just a fucking suicide and i actually try to win as mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
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April 09 2019 15:06 GMT
#1700
On April 10 2019 00:03 Mocsta wrote:
Will recruit slam n2

it's a good idea. when i was talking about my role (and hf's) slam basically understood what i was saying and i don't think hwe would have understood in that way unless he is either recruiter or mathematician (that's the read i had on him even before i got the pm at start D2).
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
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April 09 2019 15:08 GMT
#1702
On April 10 2019 00:06 VisceraEyes wrote:
problem is you don't know it's auto-suicide, as townies are more in the dark about what else is out there than mafia are presumably, so you might not get killed and I'm pretty sure you know that..

it' pretty auto-suicide lol, especially considering i just wouldnt need to do that in the first place in case i was mafia. but whatever.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
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April 09 2019 15:11 GMT
#1704
But we'll see, maybe we have two other mathematician claims today.
Then i agree you have a case you should pursue Mocsta. Do you agree other Roman mathematicians should claim?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
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April 09 2019 15:22 GMT
#1708
On April 10 2019 00:17 Mocsta wrote:
Would be more spite kill from mafia to prevent alt win con

Who cares when we dont even leave the game if we "win"?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 09 2019 15:31 GMT
#1714
On April 10 2019 00:27 Holyflare wrote:
I'm still confused what's actually happened. Maybe bus driver on ve role? Probably saving palmar and switching with rayn so he got the message?

I have a nagging feeling you would like to have had that message i got.
Two people who give messages (likely), palmar is hider sorta role (possible), bus driver (unlike), VE is lying and sent me the message (impossible).
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
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April 09 2019 15:33 GMT
#1715
On April 10 2019 00:30 disformation wrote:
would explain why some strange ppl got shot, why grack is banished of all ppl and why rayn did get a random message but not the qt invite

excuse me but give me a good reason why mafia does not shoot eywa?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
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April 09 2019 15:37 GMT
#1717
On April 10 2019 00:34 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2019 00:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 10 2019 00:30 disformation wrote:
would explain why some strange ppl got shot, why grack is banished of all ppl and why rayn did get a random message but not the qt invite

excuse me but give me a good reason why mafia does not shoot eywa?

fine. but who shot jock?

it's a 21 player game why does mafia not have more than 1 kp? or idk maybe it was like holyflare.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 09 2019 15:59 GMT
#1739
disformation what's your role name?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 09 2019 16:01 GMT
#1742
i ma pretty sure noone is trying to kill a helper.........
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
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April 09 2019 16:01 GMT
#1743
i want to know whose message i got.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
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April 09 2019 16:03 GMT
#1747
well if you are the one who should have gotten the message your target is Kelsier anyways and i don't disapprove lynching Kelsier.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
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April 09 2019 16:05 GMT
#1748
disformation can you give me a hint of your role name because in my PM it says who sent the message so either i am town and it's no harm you hint me or i am mafia and i already know.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
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April 09 2019 16:18 GMT
#1763
On April 06 2019 08:28 disformation wrote:
am looking for a dude whos super into geometry and triangles btw.

i think i got VE's message tbh.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
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April 09 2019 16:20 GMT
#1765
On April 10 2019 01:08 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2019 01:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
disformation can you give me a hint of your role name because in my PM it says who sent the message so either i am town and it's no harm you hint me or i am mafia and i already know.

Wtf

This makes no sense when u first raised pm to vote me

yeah i didn't know what the signature means until VE and disfo spoke.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 09 2019 16:25 GMT
#1770
Slam are you a roman mathematician?
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April 09 2019 16:26 GMT
#1772
On April 10 2019 01:25 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2019 01:23 Vivax wrote:
I missed this entire VE targeting Palmar business while writing. So he targeted Palmar, and rayn got a message of his target being Roman or what?

I don't know about Roman or whatever, but I targeted Palmar. It is unknown whether Palmar received a message because he's lame and hates us. But rayn got a message that looks like one I'd send, and Disfo appears to have sent the same sort of message. I'm not clear on who disfo actually targetted.

can you hint me of your role name or the person you are trying to send the message to?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
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April 09 2019 16:28 GMT
#1776
the thing is i already know the name so i can actually associate it into whatever you say and mafia probably can't if you can give a smart hint
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
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April 09 2019 16:29 GMT
#1778
On April 10 2019 01:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like I'm pretty sure I'm with the dude Disfo is looking for and he's with mine.

so what if i fuck one of you up by just letting tout the name?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
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April 09 2019 16:30 GMT
#1779
On April 10 2019 01:28 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2019 00:52 Holyflare wrote:
Return of Scooby doo mafia

What there was a scooby doo game?

YES! We even had a mystery van!
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
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April 09 2019 16:35 GMT
#1787
On April 10 2019 01:31 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2019 01:25 disformation wrote:
ugh. like im really not sure if i want to give more hints.
cause we are already borderline on the verge of having them to claim and use their power before they just get killed by inquisitor man.
though ironically that would help my win con...
and fuck town if both are removed and town...


I really think the person I'm looking for is mafia. I can use my power in the day cycle. If they were town we both claim and win. Unless that person also has a win con to not get found and is town and i don't think that would be the case.

I am like 80% sure i got VE's message. But i still have nothing against lynching Kelsier and i don't even know if VE's person to find is you or soomeone else.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
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April 09 2019 16:38 GMT
#1790
Meapak_Ziphh (6): VisceraEyes, Holyflare, Fecalfeast, Alakaslam, disformation, KelsierSC, Eywa-

so FF is roman assassin
disfo + VE helpers
Slam roman math
Eywa dead
HF is you

do your math HF
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
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April 09 2019 16:41 GMT
#1792
Do you realise if me, slam or damdred is mafia we can just fullfill our wincon and then out our mafia team? Does that seem like a reasonable game?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 09 2019 16:42 GMT
#1793
It's even worse if BOTH councils have one mafia lol
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raynpelikoneet
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April 09 2019 16:42 GMT
#1795
like i am just gonna say outright that if one of me, slam or damdred is mafia this is the most retarded game design i have ever seen in my life.
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raynpelikoneet
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April 09 2019 16:44 GMT
#1797
Like just go back and read Eywa's and LS' roel PM's and spend like 2 minutes thinking okay?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
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April 09 2019 16:45 GMT
#1798
On April 10 2019 01:43 VisceraEyes wrote:
I would really just like to scumhunt at this point.

except that you just started calling us "probably mafia" for some arbitary reason that doesnt even make any sense at all
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raynpelikoneet
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April 09 2019 17:12 GMT
#1807
The pm i got said:

"dear X (this is a name i am referred as, not meaning it is me apparently)

The person you are looking for is in the people who voted for Meapak D1

Yours truly, Y (this is like a signature but now i realise it probably doesnt mean anything at all -- aka it doesn't point towards either VE or disfo, for reasons)"
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April 09 2019 17:15 GMT
#1809
On April 10 2019 02:11 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2019 02:10 Tumblewood wrote:
it would greatly surprise me if there are town roles with alt win-cons that involve removing other townies from the game

i take that back, we already have that. would surprise me if the named mathematicians are that also, though

this dude is probably mafia
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
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April 09 2019 17:16 GMT
#1810
On April 10 2019 02:14 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay Y is likely Fibbonaci or whatever, and NOT the target. X will tell you whether it's me or Disfo you received from. X will be different for both of our messages, but Y, the signee, is probably the same.

yes, which makes me think it was you since what disfo said doesnt make any sense in that regard.
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April 09 2019 17:16 GMT
#1811
wtf is fibbonaci btw?
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April 09 2019 17:21 GMT
#1815
well i dont think i am getting the hints but it's you poe since it can't be disfo i think
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April 09 2019 17:30 GMT
#1819
On April 10 2019 02:21 VisceraEyes wrote:
We just lynch mafia and win that way.

but kelsier is mafia
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April 09 2019 17:59 GMT
#1848
hmm so okay wtf disfo how have the triangles anything to do with anything? :D
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April 09 2019 18:03 GMT
#1855
Who wants to pay me for Holyflare's role name? Pls msg, i only accept gold or silk.
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April 09 2019 18:04 GMT
#1857
On April 10 2019 03:03 Palmar wrote:
Should this be public info?

If you are town yes.
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April 09 2019 18:09 GMT
#1861
Why the fuck was i bussed with Holyflare if Holyflare is town????????????
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April 09 2019 18:09 GMT
#1863
Okay Palmar is town i think.
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April 09 2019 18:10 GMT
#1865
lolololol
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April 09 2019 18:10 GMT
#1869
Palmar is not lying.
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April 09 2019 18:24 GMT
#1892
On April 10 2019 03:16 disformation wrote:
the weird thing is that pytagoras is neither my x nor my y... so im like wtf

it's not, it's not weird.
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April 09 2019 18:24 GMT
#1895
On April 10 2019 03:21 disformation wrote:
i mean fuck it. do we both just claim our shit cause i feel like there are 5+ maths guys in the game now...

DO NOT CLAIM ATM!
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April 09 2019 18:25 GMT
#1897
disformation do you know what holyflare needs to do?

do you have any reasoning for why i would ever be bus driven with him if we are both town?
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April 09 2019 18:31 GMT
#1905
On April 10 2019 03:26 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2019 03:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
disformation do you know what holyflare needs to do?

do you have any reasoning for why i would ever be bus driven with him if we are both town?


Why the fuck would I bus drive myself if I was mafia. I'm like top 2 saves.

lol i can think of many reasons.
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April 09 2019 18:50 GMT
#1912
On April 10 2019 03:40 Holyflare wrote:
Rayn what does your X name begin with?

E?

A
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April 09 2019 18:53 GMT
#1920
On April 10 2019 03:51 disformation wrote:
A? wat?
i dont work for A.

if you want to claim fully then just claim or shut the fuck up.
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April 09 2019 18:55 GMT
#1926
it's not A neither it's E tbh
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April 09 2019 18:55 GMT
#1929
On April 10 2019 03:54 Holyflare wrote:
May have targeted me and I got bussed with pandain.

I am pretty sure you got bussed with me confirmed by disfo?
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April 09 2019 18:56 GMT
#1932
On April 10 2019 03:54 Fecalfeast wrote:
Also the way I read it I have another bullet so long as I hit an arab/hindu with it.

YES MURDER DAMDRED!!! <3
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April 09 2019 18:58 GMT
#1938
umm.. should my letter start with "Dear E_____________"?
disfo?
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April 09 2019 19:01 GMT
#1950
On April 10 2019 03:59 Pandain wrote:
I am another private investigator and I sent my message to Rayn.

who is the guy you want me to look for and why did you send a message to me fully knowing i am not the role you should be sending a message to?
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April 09 2019 19:02 GMT
#1953
Now YOU Pandain i want to fully claim because that night action is prolly the dumbest thing i have heard in this game and we had already LS and MZ lol...
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April 09 2019 19:04 GMT
#1958
Dear god i think he might be telling the truth... The fucking clusterfuck lol ^^
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April 09 2019 19:04 GMT
#1959
It is not E
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April 09 2019 19:08 GMT
#1968
Pandain why did you send me a message since i have claimed to be the same role as Eywa who has flipped before you sent out your message?
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April 09 2019 19:11 GMT
#1976
how about we just lynch anyone who hasnt claimed, like sentinel, kelsier, vivax, tumblewood? :D
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April 09 2019 19:12 GMT
#1981
and palmar
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April 09 2019 19:12 GMT
#1983
On April 10 2019 04:12 Fecalfeast wrote:
did mig claim

yeah him too
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April 09 2019 19:13 GMT
#1986
On April 10 2019 04:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Pandain why did you send me a message since i have claimed to be the same role as Eywa who has flipped before you sent out your message?

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April 09 2019 19:15 GMT
#1988
On April 10 2019 04:13 Fecalfeast wrote:
I'd also like to reiterate how little my win feels like it means at this point because how can you guys even know that I won?

I can feel you won but pls kill Damdred too, and Grack if you get a chance, just to be sure.
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April 09 2019 19:16 GMT
#1992
I wanna know if i was driven or not so fuck.... Fibonacci is the guy in my pm.
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April 09 2019 19:17 GMT
#1996
so who sent me that message?
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April 09 2019 19:19 GMT
#2000
On April 10 2019 04:17 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2019 04:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I wanna know if i was driven or not so fuck.... Fibonacci is the guy in my pm.


Isn't fibonacci host flavour? Wut

my pm i go is a 100% copy of palmar's except it's
"dear fibonacci

blablalblballlaaa

"Your faithful PI"
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April 09 2019 19:22 GMT
#2011
On April 10 2019 04:19 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2019 04:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 10 2019 04:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Pandain why did you send me a message since i have claimed to be the same role as Eywa who has flipped before you sent out your message?



I am helping Fibbonaci find Pythagorus.

Obviously you are not Fibbonaci. However, there's almost no chance I would have selected him. My main win condition is to win with town and it seemed obvious to me that Fibbonaci (name of the game) would be an important town role. I thought I was unique and there was no one else.

Instead the far safer option is to select someone who was almost certainly town in my eyes. That way he could have some information that could help town (and use it as he will), and mafia would not have valuable information on who fibonacci was.

However all that went down the drain since all you guys practically claimed and revealed the clues.


so you actually sent me the message?
ugh... the fuck is with mocsta not being able to recruit me?
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Profile Joined April 2007
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April 09 2019 19:23 GMT
#2013
like iam literally the same role ewya was except i am roman
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April 09 2019 19:24 GMT
#2017
slam is another roman math and i dont see third claim so go figure
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April 09 2019 19:27 GMT
#2024
On April 10 2019 04:25 Pandain wrote:
Is there a chance there's no mafia in this game? Maybe Inquisition is serial killer.

yes, in which case we murder onegu/artanis/rsoultin in rl for wasting like two weeks of our time.
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April 09 2019 19:28 GMT
#2028
why the fuck would you target me pandain? for real? :D
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April 09 2019 19:30 GMT
#2037
I am voting for Kelsier but i am okay with Sentinel or idk whatever too.........
Off to bed now, tomorrow is a new day.
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April 09 2019 19:37 GMT
#2049
On April 10 2019 04:34 Holyflare wrote:
Why is nobody talking about mig slipping?

?? I am listening. I am honest i havent read much of what he has posted.
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April 09 2019 19:41 GMT
#2057
On April 10 2019 04:38 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2019 04:21 Holyflare wrote:
On April 10 2019 04:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
so who sent me that message?


OH

WHAT THE FUCK IF ME AND EYWA GOT BUSSED BY TOWN BUS DRIVER AND SO MIG IS CONFUSED WHY I'M ALIVE. EYWA GOT MY PM FROM DISFO?

FF STILL WINS.

On April 09 2019 07:17 Mig wrote:
If the inquisition operative did not kill ewya, no idea why hf is alive. He basically claimed mathmatecian with the differentiate.

HF did you learn anything from that or did it do anything?


MIG IS INQUISITION AND INQUISITION IS OUT TO KILL MATHEMATICIANS AND HE THOUGHT I WAS ONE BECAUSE I TYPED DIFFERENTIATE


can you exålain this to me like i am 5?
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April 09 2019 19:44 GMT
#2064
On April 10 2019 04:41 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2019 04:39 VisceraEyes wrote:
Ya Euclid is the mafia one. He's italian (Genovian :OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO)

huh?
Euclid (/ˈjuːklɪd/; Ancient Greek: Εὐκλείδης – Eukleídēs, pronounced [eu̯.kleː.dɛːs]; fl. 300 BC), sometimes called Euclid of Alexandria[1] to distinguish him from Euclid of Megara, was a Greek mathematician, often referred to as the "founder of geometry"[1] or the "father of geometry".

so this is your guy?
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Profile Joined April 2007
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April 09 2019 19:48 GMT
#2069
you think mafia bussed eywa with you?
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April 09 2019 19:49 GMT
#2073
or soem townie jsut bussed eywa and you for what?
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April 09 2019 19:50 GMT
#2078
On April 10 2019 04:48 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2019 04:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
you think mafia bussed eywa with you?


I think town did.

okay i think that townie should claim it right now then. (whould have done it already when me + mocsta shit was going on)
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April 09 2019 19:51 GMT
#2081
what townie does think eywa is mafia though? or why would you ever bus a townie with another townie?
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April 09 2019 19:53 GMT
#2086
On April 10 2019 04:52 Mig wrote:
I am going to fully role claim unless someone talks me out of it.

Please do
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April 09 2019 19:57 GMT
#2095
On April 10 2019 04:56 Holyflare wrote:
I think kelsier is my target :D

if you're fibonacci then he 100% is, if you're not then he isn't.
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April 09 2019 19:59 GMT
#2097
On April 10 2019 01:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Meapak_Ziphh (6): VisceraEyes, Holyflare, Fecalfeast, Alakaslam, disformation, KelsierSC, Eywa-

so FF is roman assassin
disfo + VE helpers
Slam roman math
Eywa dead
HF is you

do your math HF

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April 09 2019 20:00 GMT
#2101
god........ :D :D :D
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April 09 2019 20:01 GMT
#2106
LETS KILL HOLYFLARE
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April 09 2019 20:02 GMT
#2110
i dont even know who is lying or mafia i just wanna do it because he called me mafia when he should have not
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April 09 2019 20:05 GMT
#2118
On April 10 2019 05:03 Pandain wrote:
Mig you need to collaborate with HF right now and we both win!!!!!!!!!

yes then you can give away your mafia team!
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Profile Joined April 2007
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April 09 2019 20:06 GMT
#2123
collab right now and give away your scum team plz
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April 09 2019 20:06 GMT
#2124
On April 10 2019 05:05 Holyflare wrote:
Ok whatever, I'm pyth but grack clearly fucked me but I don't know how he got removed at night unless he's mafia.

I'm town though so it's whatever

grack is mafia, dude that one was easy.
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April 09 2019 20:08 GMT
#2129
On April 10 2019 05:07 Holyflare wrote:
I have no idea what you're talking about rayn

talking to mig.
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April 09 2019 20:10 GMT
#2133
On April 10 2019 05:07 Pandain wrote:
Rayn is a pro at being wrong but saying it really confidently. It's like an art.

i bet i am better at being right than you are at a normal mafia game when we are both town.
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Finland43268 Posts
April 09 2019 20:22 GMT
#2154
Why am i not i a qt with Mocsta?
Is tubesock lying? or what?
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Profile Joined April 2007
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April 09 2019 20:25 GMT
#2169
On April 10 2019 05:23 Pandain wrote:
At this point I think everyone should just claim. Enough people have already that if there is mafia they probably know everyone who hasn't claimed by now.

everyone who hasn't claimed is mafia most likely if there even is mafia.
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April 09 2019 20:25 GMT
#2170
On April 10 2019 05:23 disformation wrote:
mh slam's role is scaring me.

pff slam is same as me havent you figured out that already?
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Profile Joined April 2007
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April 09 2019 20:27 GMT
#2178
On April 10 2019 05:26 Holyflare wrote:
why would it say win with town if there's no mafia that's stupid shit

not leaving the game when you win is already pretty stupid shit
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April 09 2019 20:28 GMT
#2183
On April 10 2019 05:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2019 05:26 Holyflare wrote:
why would it say win with town if there's no mafia that's stupid shit

not leaving the game when you win is already pretty stupid shit

and this is like guaranteed
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April 09 2019 20:36 GMT
#2207
MCMXCVIII yes i vote NAY! I will get the resistance up! Fur is murder!
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April 09 2019 20:37 GMT
#2208
On April 10 2019 05:36 Alakaslam wrote:
Who else is Roman again?

me you ff mocsta
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April 09 2019 20:40 GMT
#2214
On April 10 2019 05:37 Alakaslam wrote:
Ok the four of us need to consolidate o. The last hindu

shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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April 09 2019 20:41 GMT
#2218
On April 10 2019 05:40 Tumblewood wrote:
the only people not claimed are sent, KSC, and grack. KSC and grack are almost certainly not mafia together, so at most this is a 3 man mafia team (in which case TS would be mafia posing as third party) unless each nation faction has at least 1 scum.

what have palmar and vivax claimed?
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April 09 2019 20:42 GMT
#2222
why are KSC and grack are almost certainly not mafia together?
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April 09 2019 20:43 GMT
#2226
On April 10 2019 05:42 Mig wrote:
HF did you ever explain the differentiate. Why did you name 2 people? Can anyone tell me 100% hf is pyth I dont want to get fucked here.

can
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April 09 2019 20:46 GMT
#2235
On April 10 2019 05:44 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2019 05:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
why are KSC and grack are almost certainly not mafia together?

KSC claimed a role which is basically "remove this player from the game for a day cycle" which is an awfully strange role to use on your teammate. tbh not sure why town would get that role at all

i would almost always use that kinda role on a teammate especially if i got fucked and role claiming shennies.
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April 09 2019 20:46 GMT
#2237
well let's make it easy, who is town and "star crossed lover"?
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April 09 2019 20:50 GMT
#2240
On April 10 2019 05:48 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2019 05:47 Alakaslam wrote:
On April 10 2019 05:40 Holyflare wrote:
On April 10 2019 05:34 Alakaslam wrote:
On April 10 2019 05:33 Holyflare wrote:
Though Pisa is far from a crimeless Republic, the events of last night are strange enough to sweep through the populace. Some speculate that the wrongfully executed assassin found to be in the employ of the newly-formed Hindu-Arabic Council has resulted in a backlash, though that hardly explains the third dead body found with a mysterious device. Additionally, a citizen has gone missing. And another rumor circulates: that the Genoa resistance is growing.

Yeah! Rayn and I are both Genoa resistance right? We don’t want fibionacci to change us to the fucking Arabic bullshit for the MCMXCVIII time!


I am not that great at history but I'm pretty sure Genoa wasn't the home to Romans.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genoa

Italy was rome


Genoa is a separate city state that made a pact with rome. Not the home to Romans.

It depends on the time you are referring to.
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April 09 2019 20:54 GMT
#2246
On April 10 2019 05:51 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2019 05:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 10 2019 05:48 Holyflare wrote:
On April 10 2019 05:47 Alakaslam wrote:
On April 10 2019 05:40 Holyflare wrote:
On April 10 2019 05:34 Alakaslam wrote:
On April 10 2019 05:33 Holyflare wrote:
Though Pisa is far from a crimeless Republic, the events of last night are strange enough to sweep through the populace. Some speculate that the wrongfully executed assassin found to be in the employ of the newly-formed Hindu-Arabic Council has resulted in a backlash, though that hardly explains the third dead body found with a mysterious device. Additionally, a citizen has gone missing. And another rumor circulates: that the Genoa resistance is growing.

Yeah! Rayn and I are both Genoa resistance right? We don’t want fibionacci to change us to the fucking Arabic bullshit for the MCMXCVIII time!


I am not that great at history but I'm pretty sure Genoa wasn't the home to Romans.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genoa

Italy was rome


Genoa is a separate city state that made a pact with rome. Not the home to Romans.

It depends on the time you are referring to.


At no time was Genoa owned by Rome.


That is true but i dont think "not home for Romans" is an accurate statement regardless of what wikipedia history says.
Anyways this is not relevant.
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April 10 2019 20:58 GMT
#2436
On April 11 2019 04:50 Fecalfeast wrote:
Damdred is at risk of being modkilled if he comes in last second to post and vote I'm gonna shoot at him tonight anyway

If Damdred gets modkilled shoot Grackaroni or at least try regardless of if he is in the game or not.
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April 10 2019 21:02 GMT
#2437
Tubesock is pretty hilarious. Did he claim mafia?
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April 10 2019 21:07 GMT
#2439
So why arent we killing him?
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April 10 2019 21:13 GMT
#2444
Okay.
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April 10 2019 21:15 GMT
#2445
I would still like to murder kelsier because then we can deal with grack better and kelsier isnt town anyways. At best mafia at worst cult. But i have nothing against lynching vivax or sentinel.
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April 10 2019 21:17 GMT
#2446
Like its entirely possible kelsier is just protecting grack because i figured out he was fakeclaiming. Its actually most probable answrr imo.
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April 10 2019 22:26 GMT
#2491
So me, slam and mocsta have won so slam / mocsta if youre mafia just claim your team. You have won already.
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April 10 2019 22:29 GMT
#2495
Yeah defs shoot Palmar but i sm pretty sure he is lying about his role and scum have roleblocker. The role palmar claims makes no sense since apparently mafia converts (recruits) people too.
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April 10 2019 22:41 GMT
#2500
Yeah
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April 10 2019 22:43 GMT
#2501
I think kelsier should also jail palmar unless if he is town.
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April 10 2019 22:56 GMT
#2502
Or idk let me focus on that in the morning. I am doing double shift for the rest of the week so i dont have much free time awake.
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April 10 2019 23:32 GMT
#2508
On April 11 2019 08:15 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2019 07:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So me, slam and mocsta have won so slam / mocsta if youre mafia just claim your team. You have won already.

No this is retarded.

I win if the mathematicians are RECRUITED.

Palmar blocked you, so I need 2 more nights to win.

sigh.

Well me and slam have won because we win if hindu council is dead and they are.
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April 10 2019 23:35 GMT
#2510
You realise why its fucking idiotic if we (or FF) were mafia?
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April 10 2019 23:37 GMT
#2513
On April 11 2019 08:35 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2019 08:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You realise why its fucking idiotic if we (or FF) were mafia?
? I didnt suggest you were

I know but apparently some people who werent even suggested that.
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April 10 2019 23:38 GMT
#2514
Who werent even mafia*

Thats like next level dumb argument
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April 11 2019 12:44 GMT
#2549
On April 09 2019 07:00 rsoultin wrote:
Eywa-, the Town Hindu-Arabic Mathematician[spoiler]You are a Hindu-Arabic Mathematician.

You are one of the preeminent mathematicians in Pisa working with Hindu-Arabic numerals. In response to Fibonacci’s recent suggestion that the world use your numbering system to achieve greater accuracy and facilitate conversions, a Hindu-Arabic Council is being formed in support. But there is also a Roman Council working to oppose the change.

You win with town.

Alternate win-condition #1: You win if you are recruited and serve on the full Hindu-Arabic Council.

Alternate win-condition #2: You win if all associated with the Roman Council are dead before End of Game.


For the last time, the next person who says i might be mafia i am going to vote for them and never ever do anything else until one of us dies. Like, can't you understand how ridiculously terrible this game has to be if i am mafia? I have the same exact role Eywa does (swap hindu -- roman), I have already won because the hindu arabic coucil which is recruiter + two mathematicians is dead. If i am mafia ia right now 100% telling you who my scumbuddies are, if for nothing else just because the setup would be so terrible (it is even now because it made all the mathematicians conf town from the beginning), but well because i have already won. If i am ever converted to being mafia this game i am going to 100% out all my scumbuddies right away, because see above. Same applies to FF (and MZ).

Is like half of the game really this stupid?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 11 2019 12:49 GMT
#2550
I honestly never cared which one of Vivax, Sentinel or Kelsier got lynched last night because i was like 90% sure all of them are mafia (as Grackaroni as i said) -- if there ever even was any mafia in this game, i wasn't sure about that. What's the point of starting to call Grackaroni scum based on what he did when he was not scum? I could easily make a legit town case on him if i knew he was town at the time lol.

Kelsier jails Palmar or he is mafia, he probably is anyways but still. Always auto-lynch Kelsier in case Palmar didn't get jailed, Palmar is the best bet for scum recruiter considering all things, if he is town then it's just tough luck.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 11 2019 12:52 GMT
#2551
It's hilarious though how bad the hindu-arabic people were, they just wanted to kill each other for no reason than paranoia. Sounds liek a normal day in middle-east.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 11 2019 13:00 GMT
#2552
On April 09 2019 02:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
vivax is mafia

I also had the best read in the game N1.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 11 2019 13:54 GMT
#2554
On April 11 2019 19:41 Palmar wrote:
I would be careful about putting much weight into the words of dead mafia. You cannot know their intentions other than that they want to confuse us.

Pandain dude, i really agree iwth this thing regardless of what Palmar is.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 11 2019 14:31 GMT
#2578
No VE it doesn't make much sense tbh. I thought the same you di earlier but really it doesnt make much sense.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 11 2019 14:32 GMT
#2580
On April 11 2019 23:30 Pandain wrote:
The benefit of jail-keeping an active pro-town player is way more huge than the small, only potential benefit of making sure grack doesn't get lynched.

I have a question thugh, who is an active pro-town player in this game?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 11 2019 14:36 GMT
#2588
On April 11 2019 23:33 Pandain wrote:
Maybe HF? Maybe you?

Idk do you call people pro-town because of their name or what? I for once have not been pro-town at all, i tried to make a deal with mafia on N1 jesus....
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 11 2019 14:40 GMT
#2592
On April 11 2019 23:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
But then why didn't you win?

I won already. Apparently i am not removed from the game which is retarded.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 11 2019 14:42 GMT
#2597
On April 11 2019 23:41 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2019 23:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 11 2019 23:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
But then why didn't you win?

I won already. Apparently i am not removed from the game which is retarded.

KINGMAKER RAYN!

Are you gonna give it to mafia? Is it going to depend on whether we make you mad?

ofc not, i already said if i am converted i will out my scumbuddies the first second.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 11 2019 14:46 GMT
#2599
On April 11 2019 23:36 KelsierSC wrote:
my concern with using my ability on palmar is that if he is town it potentially phases him into a mafia so i'm not really sure.

If palmar is mafia do you think he will become town?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 11 2019 14:50 GMT
#2602
it doesnt make any sense unless kelsier is just mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 11 2019 14:50 GMT
#2603
like he converted grack, grack flipped "converted to mafia", how much more proof do you need?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 11 2019 14:52 GMT
#2604
it is guaranteed it is either kelsier or sentinel since palmar's night action is confirmed to be either rolebock on mocsta or what he says (town or mafia) on me, or he is mafia with one or two of the above and they made up a story.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 11 2019 14:56 GMT
#2607
idk but the whole conversion stuff doesnt make sense anyways since it is just op if it is like yakuza who doesnt die. how is town supposed to remove a growing number of mafia?

kelsier what does your role pm actualyl say about conversion? i am sorry if you have claimed it already.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 11 2019 14:57 GMT
#2609
fuck i gotta wake up in 3 hrs.
i try to be around later if work allows so
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 12 2019 00:15 GMT
#2652
On April 12 2019 07:47 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2019 07:06 disformation wrote:
or ksc lied and he converted psalmar now... which would kinda suck

Or KSC is converting ppl without knowing it.

But it also seems scum lost KP... Unless they tried to shoot palmar...

Is there unaccounted kp from n1?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 12 2019 12:39 GMT
#2663
Sentinel what is your exact result from N1?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 12 2019 12:45 GMT
#2665
And also N2.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 12 2019 13:11 GMT
#2667
On April 12 2019 22:10 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2019 21:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Sentinel what is your exact result from N1?


why are you pretending to believe his claim at all?

Because i wont tell you yet.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 12 2019 13:30 GMT
#2669
Slam are you mafia right now?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 12 2019 14:18 GMT
#2671
Kelsier can you jail or whatever the same preson twice in a row?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 12 2019 15:03 GMT
#2673
Which votes dont you like?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 12 2019 16:37 GMT
#2677
On April 13 2019 01:00 VisceraEyes wrote:

rayn do you really believe Sent's claim?

No but kelsier converted me so i am scum with him and palmar.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 12 2019 16:53 GMT
#2681
On April 13 2019 01:44 Pandain wrote:
Is that a real claim?

yes
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 12 2019 16:54 GMT
#2684
On April 13 2019 01:50 disformation wrote:
well. if ksc is their converter/recruiter/cultist/whatever then... yes...
did he and palmar claim each others roles or what?

idk i didnt go that far in the qt until he got mad at me
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 12 2019 16:54 GMT
#2685
On April 13 2019 01:54 Pandain wrote:
You should be modkilled

why?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 12 2019 16:56 GMT
#2686
i won already i can do the fuck i want, it's not my fault he picked me.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 12 2019 16:57 GMT
#2688
like i literally said i'd claim it if i got converted. I was not mafia no if you choose to NOT believe that then it's your fault.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 12 2019 16:57 GMT
#2691
right
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 12 2019 17:53 GMT
#2714
On April 13 2019 02:50 Pandain wrote:
If Palmar is the cultist that means no one could have been recruited today because Palmar was jailed. Palmar can't be the cultist.

you are wrong on like everything in this game except this.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 12 2019 17:54 GMT
#2715
On April 13 2019 02:50 disformation wrote:
Rayn isn't the Roman assassin that is fefe

yeah lol :p
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 12 2019 17:57 GMT
#2719
if i didnt know better icould murder pandain for like 20 reasons.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 12 2019 17:57 GMT
#2720
On April 13 2019 02:57 Pandain wrote:
Rayn who did Kelsier say he converted night 1. Grack?

yes
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 12 2019 17:59 GMT
#2722
On April 13 2019 02:58 Pandain wrote:
Rayn if what you are saying is true they are literally the most incompetant mafia team in history.

And you think Palmar is part of that team?

I dont think anything.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 12 2019 17:59 GMT
#2723
palmar has about zero presence in scum qt
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 12 2019 18:01 GMT
#2724
two posts:
"hi it's weekend"
and
"what is going on"
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 12 2019 18:04 GMT
#2726
On April 13 2019 03:02 Pandain wrote:
Palmar has 106 posts here in the thread and 2 in the QT?

correct
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 12 2019 18:09 GMT
#2727
lol, not that anyone else has either. kelsier fucked up n1.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 12 2019 18:11 GMT
#2728
If i happened to be in any out of thread communication thing can i quote it or just paraphrase?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 12 2019 18:19 GMT
#2730
why is it a dick move? is it a dick move to kill townies as mafia?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 12 2019 18:20 GMT
#2731
i retract my statement of being mafia. I am actually a cop and i have a red check on Kelsier and Palmar.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 12 2019 18:44 GMT
#2733
Slam set the wires i will blow it up, you get to win too.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 12 2019 19:00 GMT
#2736
On April 13 2019 03:59 disformation wrote:
y not sent though? or is that pending his answers?

you are serious?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 12 2019 19:02 GMT
#2737
well, sleepy time.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 13 2019 10:11 GMT
#2768
On April 13 2019 06:41 Fecalfeast wrote:
I also feel like rayn was telling the truth and caught supreme shit for it so decided to try andplay it off as a meta joke

so either way i want to lynch ksc

I think Sentinel wants to get lynched instead of Kelsier and claimed a check on eywa when in fact he should have a check on holyflare. Kelsier couldn't do anything but jail (and i think convert too) Palmar after his claim. I think they need to buy +1 day to get someone converted. Maybe they are even both mafia but if that's the case then Sentinel is nver the converter i think. I don't also think it makes sense that only Sentinel is mafia because that would mean Kelsier is not and therefore also Palmar is not. That would mean mafia starting with only 2 people, on e of them being lovers with a townie. I think it sounds ridiculously underpowered, especially if you think about what town can do with a massclaim. Sure we had some townies who "needed" to kill townies like LS and FF but still. I think having 3 mafia at the start (aka Vivax, Kels and Sent) is reasonable. Kelsiers "why the fuck would i recruit Grack knowing he is lovers with viv" is bs because regardless of who is mafia they did just that. I don't know what mafia knows and what was the reason but they did that, so saying he isn't the recruiter because he jailed grack is just what anyone would say from "town perspective".

Disformation also had the right idea, we are in deep shit if we get it wrong now and after that there is nothing to do other than randomlynching people because you cannot know who is mafia anymore. That's the most retarded point of cult-like games, but if Kelsier is the recruiter we win just by lynching Palmar tomorrow (ans Sentinel if the game doesn't end there).
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 13 2019 10:15 GMT
#2769
Also if Kelsier is town then Palmar is always town right now and N3.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 13 2019 12:46 GMT
#2773
Wait. Do we lose if we lynch a townie today? How many are alive?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 13 2019 12:48 GMT
#2775
Yeah we lose if we dont lynch the recruiter assuming mafia started with 3 people.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 13 2019 12:50 GMT
#2776
But if kelsier is town and sentinel is rectuiter we can still win even if we lynch kels.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 13 2019 13:07 GMT
#2779
Yeah i meant with 2 scum which is probably the case if kelsier is town.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 13 2019 20:13 GMT
#2791
On April 14 2019 05:03 Pandain wrote:
I agree with your analysis but I don't understand how it leads you to stay on KSC. Like if KSC converted people through jailing them, he could have picked way better people than Grack. That's not a question of different philosophies, it just doesn't make any sense from a mafia perspective.

Whoever converted grack makea no sense based on what townies know so thats a dumb argument.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 14 2019 06:04 GMT
#2862
Well i don't feel really bad for that since i was right.
I would be much cooler though if i just stuck with my mafia claim haha ^^
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 14 2019 06:10 GMT
#2863
Wait we still win lol, the new mafia dude is gagged during the day and cannot vote so it's effectively 3vs2 tomorrow.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 14 2019 06:49 GMT
#2864
bleh.. no we dont. gg
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 14 2019 06:49 GMT
#2865
Unless Kelsier himself holds the mafia KP and recruited people can't shoot.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 14 2019 06:51 GMT
#2866
On April 14 2019 06:39 Pandain wrote:
I think you're reading too much into why people do or don't do certain things. Not everyone in this game is eager or wants to share all information about their role. In fact, that mindset is why we have a whole bunch of townies dead. It doesn't mean he's town, but it doesn't mean he's mafia either.

Yeah you shouldn't. You should read into things like Kelsier jails Grack, Grack flips converted mafia the next day.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 14 2019 08:51 GMT
#2870
nah we just lost.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 14 2019 11:50 GMT
#2873
no lol, we are 8 alive, if there is only 2 mafia atm and only 1 kp we win.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 15 2019 02:47 GMT
#2917
On April 15 2019 07:10 Onegu wrote:


Rayn dont make that post again plz. Because if you were mafia and that was your scum team I would have mod killed you right there. If you are town I dont mod kill you...

Dont make a game where players who have won dont leave the game again and i promise you youll never get something like that.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 15 2019 05:23 GMT
#2918
GG. Not the result i expected. All scum were in my idk pile N1 but i knew i am gonna win D2 most likely i just didnt care that much (well i didnt in the first place when i realised what role damdred rly was).
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 15 2019 05:25 GMT
#2919
It's hilarious how hindu/arab effectively killed themselves D1 though
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Last Edited: 2019-04-18 08:05:49
April 18 2019 08:04 GMT
#2932
Well Grackaroni flipping converted mafia after Kelsier jailed him didn't really help that..
I really thought one of Kelsier/Palmar had to be mafia since they were claimed "counterparts" to the conversion mechanic and Grack flip was just too convenient.
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